Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-06-30 Thread Jens Petersen
Dejavu was default font in Fedora for many many years, so many packages still rely/assume it. Likely more than necessary, eg in current Fedora Rawhide... $ sudo dnf repoquery -q --whatrequires dejavu-sans-fonts | grep -v i686 | wc -l 43 After the new `default-fonts` Change for Fedora 39, one

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-06-30 Thread Jens Petersen
> I would like to point to a problem with the current config regarding Arabic > font. > For Arabic text, The dejavu sans is still being displayed in many webpages in > firefox > instead of the noto sans. > However, when switching the system language to arabic, firefox correctly > displays noto

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-06-29 Thread Ali Alawami
Update: Apparently, this problem doesn't exist on new install/liveusb because dejavu is not installed so I found out that on my system I have VLC which has a dependency on dejavu.. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-06-29 Thread Ali Alawami
Thanks everyone for this work. I would like to point to a problem with the current config regarding Arabic font. For Arabic text, The dejavu sans is still being displayed in many webpages in firefox instead of the noto sans. However, when switching the system language to arabic, firefox

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-01-13 Thread Akira TAGOH
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 8:07 AM Brian C. Lane wrote: > lorax templates currently install: > > installpkg abattis-cantarell-fonts > installpkg bitmap-fangsongti-fonts > installpkg dejavu-sans-fonts dejavu-sans-mono-fonts > installpkg google-noto-sans-cjk-ttc-fonts > installpkg

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-01-13 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 10:01:38AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > The following packages will be installed by default to replace > DejaVu's coverage: > * google-noto-sans-vf-fonts > * google-noto-serif-vf-fonts > * google-noto-sans-mono-vf-fonts > * google-noto-sans-arabic-vf-fonts > *

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-01-06 Thread Akira TAGOH
On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 9:41 PM Neal Becker wrote: > > Sorry, don't understand the question. I was testing with non-variable fonts, > all were "mono". Ah, okay. my proposal was basically to replace with variable fonts. so I was assuming it may be a variable font and you may see some issue

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-01-06 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Akira TAGOH wrote: > Unfortunately Noto Sans Math doesn't have enough coverage to represent > math (as und-zmth orthography defined in fontconfig). I won't do it > (even if I do, it won't be picked up as a math font) and keep STIX as > a default math font this time for all the generic families.

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-01-06 Thread Neal Becker
Sorry, don't understand the question. I was testing with non-variable fonts, all were "mono". On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 9:45 PM Akira TAGOH wrote: > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 1:08 AM Neal Becker wrote: > > > > After seeing this proposal I tried playing with Noto Sans Mono. I > > find that while

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-01-05 Thread Akira TAGOH
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 7:45 PM Akira TAGOH wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 11:07 PM Kevin Kofler via devel > wrote: > > Another case is the math symbols: Should the default sans-serif math font be > > changed to Noto Sans Math? STIX is a serif font, so it probably makes sense > > to keep as

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-01-05 Thread Akira TAGOH
On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 1:08 AM Neal Becker wrote: > > After seeing this proposal I tried playing with Noto Sans Mono. I > find that while it comes with many weights, none look right to me. > Language is English. > > I'm testing in emacs. My usual default is Source code sans semibold > and I

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-01-05 Thread Akira TAGOH
On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 11:07 PM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Another case is the math symbols: Should the default sans-serif math font be > changed to Noto Sans Math? STIX is a serif font, so it probably makes sense > to keep as the serif math font (also considering that there is, at least at

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-01-04 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > I see in this table that there are still a bunch of languages using > non-Noto fonts where there appears to be a Noto equivalent available, > e.g., https://fonts.google.com/noto shows me Devanagari, Bengali, and > Tamil on the first page whereas your table indicates

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-01-04 Thread Akira TAGOH
On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 7:52 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > I see in this table that there are still a bunch of languages using non-Noto > fonts where there appears to be a Noto equivalent available, e.g., > https://fonts.google.com/noto shows me Devanagari, Bengali, and Tamil on the > first

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-01-03 Thread Akira TAGOH
On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 1:28 AM Igor Raits wrote: > Will all of them be installed by default or depending on langpacks selection? Yes. Basically upgrading will be done by langpacks package update. > Is it safe to delete DejaVu fonts assuming they are not used by any known app? It would be

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Dec 30 2021 at 11:06:18 AM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: I'm testing in emacs. I'm going to suggest testing in web browsers too, because the change is going to be especially noticeable there. A *lot* of websites use default fonts. I find https://lwn.net is a good test page.

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-30 Thread Neal Becker
After seeing this proposal I tried playing with Noto Sans Mono. I find that while it comes with many weights, none look right to me. Language is English. I'm testing in emacs. My usual default is Source code sans semibold and I find that very pleasing. I also tried Dejavu Sans Mono semibold,

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Robert Marcano via devel
On 12/29/21 2:20 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 12:27 PM Artem Tim wrote: Cantarell current default UI font in GNOME (Workstation) will be replaced by Noto font as well or remain? The current plan is to keep Cantarell for now, though GNOME upstream may decide to switch to

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Ben Cotton wrote: > == Summary == > Changing the default fonts for various languages to Noto Fonts as much > as possible, to make consistency on the text rendering. > > == Owner == > * Name: [[User:Tagoh|Akira TAGOH]] > * Email: Considering that DejaVu had been chosen as the default font for

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 12:27 PM Artem Tim wrote: > > Cantarell current default UI font in GNOME (Workstation) will be replaced by > Noto font as well or remain? The current plan is to keep Cantarell for now, though GNOME upstream may decide to switch to Noto as KDE Plasma did years ago. --

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Artem Tim
Cantarell current default UI font in GNOME (Workstation) will be replaced by Noto font as well or remain? ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Igor Raits
Hello, On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 4:04 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DefaultToNotoFonts > > == Summary == > Changing the default fonts for various languages to Noto Fonts as much > as possible, to make consistency on the text rendering. > > == Owner == > * Name:

F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DefaultToNotoFonts == Summary == Changing the default fonts for various languages to Noto Fonts as much as possible, to make consistency on the text rendering. == Owner == * Name: [[User:Tagoh|Akira TAGOH]] * Email: == Detailed Description == For a long

F36 Change: Default To Noto Fonts (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DefaultToNotoFonts == Summary == Changing the default fonts for various languages to Noto Fonts as much as possible, to make consistency on the text rendering. == Owner == * Name: [[User:Tagoh|Akira TAGOH]] * Email: == Detailed Description == For a long