On Wed, 2021-06-30 at 14:31 +0200, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> After reading your explanation of how gentoo does packaging, it
> indeed makes a lot of sense and feels like that most of the
> concerns I pointed out have solutions or could be mitigated.
>
> The biggest problem I personally see is the
Zbyszek, thank you for your detailed feedback.
I agree with you that the step to serialize patches into dist-git
complicates things heavily and is error-prone. I say this as a person
who wrote a ton of code [1] in packit to achieve this. Would be
awesome if we could build from the git checkout
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 8:52 AM Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 3:43 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 03:49:23AM +, Dan Čermák wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On June 24, 2021 9:22:51 PM UTC, "Miro Hrončok"
> wrote:
> > > >On 24. 06. 21 23:07,
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 08:11:38AM -0500, Justin Forbes wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 3:40 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 03:13:10PM +0200, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 8:09 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> >
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 02:03:22PM +0200, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 10:40 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> >
> > > Our definition of source-git is:
> > > * upstream release tarball
> > > * downstream code changes applied as patches during %prep
> > > * additional
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 3:40 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 03:13:10PM +0200, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 8:09 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 03:48:54PM +0200, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> > > > On
Randy, thank you for providing such detailed information! A few comments
inline.
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 3:01 AM Randy Barlow via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 15:36 +0200, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> > > On the "uni-repo" counter proposal: there's a bunch of
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 10:40 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
>
> > Our definition of source-git is:
> > * upstream release tarball
> > * downstream code changes applied as patches during %prep
> > * additional configs for sake of building and testing
>
> But that describes dist-git
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 3:38 PM Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> * Can you imagine maintaining Fedora's 30k+ packages in a single repo?
> Without some git-fetch magic it would be unbearable to perform a
> git-pull.
I cannot imagine *not* doing this, maintaining a distro
and preserving any sanity in the
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 03:13:10PM +0200, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 8:09 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 03:48:54PM +0200, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 12:41 PM Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 24. 06. 21
This is a super update report, thanks for sharing
CPE have activated an open source license for Gitlab to trial out some of
the workflows and features. This is their top level SaaS offering which
they grant to all open source projects so it has all the features we would
need for testing.
Stephen
On Wed, 2021-06-30 at 01:01 +, Randy Barlow via devel wrote:
> An example of this is gstreamer - in Gentoo I just have
> gstreamer installed, and the various plugin packs like good bad and
> ugly are just USE variables on that one package.
Ooops, I was wrong on this example. They do package
On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 15:36 +0200, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> > On the "uni-repo" counter proposal: there's a bunch of real-world
> > examples here of distributions using this successfully:
> >
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 7:52 AM Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 3:43 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 03:49:23AM +, Dan Čermák wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On June 24, 2021 9:22:51 PM UTC, "Miro Hrončok"
> > > wrote:
> > > >On 24. 06. 21
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 12:48 AM Colin Walters wrote:
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>
>
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021, at 5:16 AM, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> > Greetings from the Fedora source-git SIG! We are planning to start
> > publishing reports of what we are working on so everyone can easily
> > pay attention and get involved if
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 8:09 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 03:48:54PM +0200, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 12:41 PM Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > >
> > > On 24. 06. 21 11:16, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> > > > ## Choosing git forge to host source-git
On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 6:48 PM Colin Walters wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021, at 5:16 AM, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> > Greetings from the Fedora source-git SIG! We are planning to start
> > publishing reports of what we are working on so everyone can easily
> > pay attention and get involved if
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021, at 5:16 AM, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> Greetings from the Fedora source-git SIG! We are planning to start
> publishing reports of what we are working on so everyone can easily
> pay attention and get involved if interested. If you have any ideas,
> comments or requests, don’t
Dne 25. 06. 21 v 16:19 Peter Pentchev napsal(a):
FWIW, pristine-tar (http://joeyh.name/code/pristine-tar/) can handle
almost all upstream tarballs, and it also has support for storing
detached signatures alongside its metadata. I keep hearing people say
that there are cases when it fails, but it
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 10:43:17AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:04 AM Frédéric Pierret
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Le 6/25/21 à 2:51 PM, Neal Gompa a écrit :
> > > On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 3:43 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:04 AM Frédéric Pierret
wrote:
>
>
>
> Le 6/25/21 à 2:51 PM, Neal Gompa a écrit :
> > On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 3:43 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 03:49:23AM +, Dan Čermák wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On June 24, 2021 9:22:51
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 02:40:22PM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 24. 06. 21 v 23:22 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
> > AFAIK git does not grantee to produce byte2byte identical archives
> > across different versions of git, zlib, gzip etc. So even if upstream
> > signs the git generated archive,
Le 6/25/21 à 2:51 PM, Neal Gompa a écrit :
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 3:43 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 03:49:23AM +, Dan Čermák wrote:
On June 24, 2021 9:22:51 PM UTC, "Miro Hrončok" wrote:
On 24. 06. 21 23:07, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
Dne 24. 06. 21 v
On 25. 06. 21 14:54, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
Dne 25. 06. 21 v 14:50 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
AFAIK git does not grantee to produce byte2byte identical archives across
different versions of git, zlib, gzip etc. So even if upstream signs the
git generated archive, generating a byte2byte identical
Dne 25. 06. 21 v 14:50 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
AFAIK git does not grantee to produce byte2byte identical archives across different versions of git, zlib, gzip etc.
So even if upstream signs the git generated archive, generating a byte2byte identical one might be tricky.
Neither git nor tar
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 3:43 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 03:49:23AM +, Dan Čermák wrote:
> >
> >
> > On June 24, 2021 9:22:51 PM UTC, "Miro Hrončok" wrote:
> > >On 24. 06. 21 23:07, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> > >> Dne 24. 06. 21 v 15:48 Tomas Tomecek
On 25. 06. 21 14:40, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
Dne 24. 06. 21 v 23:22 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
AFAIK git does not grantee to produce byte2byte identical archives across
different versions of git, zlib, gzip etc. So even if upstream signs the git
generated archive, generating a byte2byte identical
Dne 24. 06. 21 v 23:22 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
AFAIK git does not grantee to produce byte2byte identical archives across different versions of git, zlib, gzip etc.
So even if upstream signs the git generated archive, generating a byte2byte identical one might be tricky.
Neither git nor tar
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 10:51:11AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek:
>
> > I think we should try to push upstream to sign git tags, instead or in
> > addition to tarballs. For upstreams, this is actually much easier
> > (just 'git tag' → 'git tag -s' and you're done)
* Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek:
> I think we should try to push upstream to sign git tags, instead or in
> addition to tarballs. For upstreams, this is actually much easier
> (just 'git tag' → 'git tag -s' and you're done) compared to e.g. signing
> a tarball on github which requires some
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 11:07:45PM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 24. 06. 21 v 15:48 Tomas Tomecek napsal(a):
> > > One thing to consider is that the upstream tarballs might be
> > > cryptographically
> > > signed and packages should verify the signature in %prep.
> > This is a very good
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 03:49:23AM +, Dan Čermák wrote:
>
>
> On June 24, 2021 9:22:51 PM UTC, "Miro Hrončok" wrote:
> >On 24. 06. 21 23:07, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> >> Dne 24. 06. 21 v 15:48 Tomas Tomecek napsal(a):
> One thing to consider is that the upstream tarballs might be
>
On June 24, 2021 6:08:17 PM UTC, "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek"
wrote:
>On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 03:48:54PM +0200, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 12:41 PM Miro Hrončok
>wrote:
>> >
>> > On 24. 06. 21 11:16, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
>> > > ## Choosing git forge to host source-git
On June 24, 2021 9:22:51 PM UTC, "Miro Hrončok" wrote:
>On 24. 06. 21 23:07, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>> Dne 24. 06. 21 v 15:48 Tomas Tomecek napsal(a):
One thing to consider is that the upstream tarballs might be
>cryptographically
signed and packages should verify the signature in
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 24. 06. 21 23:07, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> > Dne 24. 06. 21 v 15:48 Tomas Tomecek napsal(a):
> >>> One thing to consider is that the upstream tarballs might be
> >>> cryptographically
> >>> signed and packages should verify the signature
On 24. 06. 21 23:07, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
Dne 24. 06. 21 v 15:48 Tomas Tomecek napsal(a):
One thing to consider is that the upstream tarballs might be cryptographically
signed and packages should verify the signature in %prep.
This is a very good point - in such a case, we should always pull
Dne 24. 06. 21 v 15:48 Tomas Tomecek napsal(a):
One thing to consider is that the upstream tarballs might be cryptographically
signed and packages should verify the signature in %prep.
This is a very good point - in such a case, we should always pull the
official upstream tarball instead of
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 03:48:54PM +0200, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 12:41 PM Miro Hrončok wrote:
> >
> > On 24. 06. 21 11:16, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> > > ## Choosing git forge to host source-git repositories
> > > We need to find a home for all the source-git repositories.
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 1:01 PM PGNet Dev wrote:
>
> On 6/24/21 6:40 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > On 24. 06. 21 11:16, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> >> ## Choosing git forge to host source-git repositories
> >> We need to find a home for all the source-git repositories. This is
> >> actually a really
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 12:41 PM Miro Hrončok wrote:
>
> On 24. 06. 21 11:16, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> > ## Choosing git forge to host source-git repositories
> > We need to find a home for all the source-git repositories. This is
> > actually a really hard task because we have many options
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:39 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
>
> Hi Tomas,
>
> This is great. Do you mind if I republish this in the Fedora Community
> Blog? https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org
Go for it, Ben :)
My inspiration for the report comes from the Q1 update of the CentOS
Hyperscale SIG:
Hi Tomas,
This is great. Do you mind if I republish this in the Fedora Community
Blog? https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org
(Replying on-list to encourage others to submit this kind of content
to the CommBlog and to read it, too)
--
Ben Cotton
He / Him / His
Fedora Program Manager
Red Hat
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 11:16:11AM +0200, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> Greetings from the Fedora source-git SIG! We are planning to start
> publishing reports of what we are working on so everyone can easily
> pay attention and get involved if interested. If you have any ideas,
> comments or requests,
On 6/24/21 6:40 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote:
On 24. 06. 21 11:16, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
## Choosing git forge to host source-git repositories
We need to find a home for all the source-git repositories. This is
actually a really hard task because we have many options (github.com,
gitlab.com,
On 24. 06. 21 11:16, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
## Choosing git forge to host source-git repositories
We need to find a home for all the source-git repositories. This is
actually a really hard task because we have many options (github.com,
gitlab.com, pagure.io, src.fedoraproject.org, something custom
Greetings from the Fedora source-git SIG! We are planning to start
publishing reports of what we are working on so everyone can easily
pay attention and get involved if interested. If you have any ideas,
comments or requests, don’t be shy and let us know :)
Here’s a short list of things which we
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