Re: Other download options

2014-12-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.12.2014 um 05:32 schrieb Felix Miata: [ re: https://getfedora.org/ ] Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-11 01:06 (UTC+0100): Felix Miata composed: Actions speak louder than words. The need to zoom 3X-6X to reach legible a legible state belies polished, easy to use. no need to zoom

Re: Other download options

2014-12-11 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hi Alexander. On Thu, 2014-12-11 at 08:21 +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: Sorry to cut in, but whom can I contact about localization issues with the getfedora.org website? Please contact the websites team via their mailing list or trac instance:

Re: CSS on getfedora.org (was: Other download options)

2014-12-11 Thread Felix Miata
Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-11 11:44 (UTC+0100): Felix Miata composed: [ re: https://getfedora.org/ ] Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-11 01:06 (UTC+0100): Felix Miata composed: Actions speak louder than words. The need to zoom 3X-6X to reach legible a legible state belies

Re: Other download options

2014-12-11 Thread Andrew Clayton
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 18:37:54 +0100, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 09:52 -0700, Jerry James wrote: Workstation isn't suitable; they aren't developers (yet). Server and Cloud are definitely right out. I don't want a Live CD; I want to actually install. (In the past,

Re: Other download options

2014-12-11 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/11/2014 04:45 PM, Andrew Clayton wrote: My usual way for updating/installing was to download the netinst and DVD install images. Then with netinst, install using the DVD image over NFS. I guess that's now out the window? What would be the nearest equivalent thing? You can use the server

Re: Other download options

2014-12-11 Thread Andrew Clayton
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:46:18 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: You can use the server netinst iso the same as a generic netinst. But it looks like you'll have to get the packages over the network. There's no iso with packages on it. So either mirror the packages you need or download them during

Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Maros Zatko
Hi everyone, I've noticed that other download options besides LIVE images are now gone from the website. Can you please explain how should (normal) user find non-LIVE image links there? I know this has been (probably intentionally) obfuscated before. Please put it back, even as obfuscated

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.12.2014 um 13:43 schrieb Maros Zatko: Hi everyone, I've noticed that other download options besides LIVE images are now gone from the website. Can you please explain how should (normal) user find non-LIVE image links there? I know this has been (probably intentionally) obfuscated before

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Nikos Roussos
Speaking of F21 downloads, how is that the fedoraproject.org redirects to getfedora.org? Is this something permanent? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Maros Zatko
From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:54:29 PM Subject: Re: Other download options Am 10.12.2014 um 13:43 schrieb Maros Zatko: Hi everyone, I've noticed that other download options besides LIVE images

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.12.2014 um 14:27 schrieb Maros Zatko: From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net Am 10.12.2014 um 13:43 schrieb Maros Zatko: Hi everyone, I've noticed that other download options besides LIVE images are now gone from the website. Can you please explain how should (normal) user find non

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Maros Zatko
From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:29:09 PM Subject: Re: Other download options Am 10.12.2014 um 14:27 schrieb Maros Zatko: From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net Am 10.12.2014 um 13:43 schrieb Maros

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread drago01
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Maros Zatko mza...@redhat.com wrote: From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:54:29 PM Subject: Re: Other download options Am 10.12.2014 um 13:43 schrieb Maros Zatko: Hi everyone

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 10.12.2014 v 14:38 Maros Zatko napsal(a): From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:29:09 PM Subject: Re: Other download options Am 10.12.2014 um 14:27 schrieb Maros Zatko: From: Reindl Harald h.rei

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Maros Zatko mza...@redhat.com wrote: Yes, there is netinstall in the Server variant, I suppose it's not the same as Workstation one and (as a user) I'm getting pretty confused now :) I'm getting kind of confused myself. I want to grab an image to throw onto an

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 09:52 -0700, Jerry James wrote: Workstation isn't suitable; they aren't developers (yet). Server and Cloud are definitely right out. I don't want a Live CD; I want to actually install. (In the past, installing from a Live CD left one with different defaults than an

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 09:52:05 -0700 Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Maros Zatko mza...@redhat.com wrote: Yes, there is netinstall in the Server variant, I suppose it's not the same as Workstation one and (as a user) I'm getting pretty confused now

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Mike Pinkerton
On 10 Dec 2014, at 11:52, Jerry James wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Maros Zatko mza...@redhat.com wrote: Yes, there is netinstall in the Server variant, I suppose it's not the same as Workstation one and (as a user) I'm getting pretty confused now :) I'm getting kind of

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Mike Pinkerton pseli...@mindspring.com wrote: I also am trying to figure out how I can use Fedora going forward to support general desktop requirements for SMB office workers, creative types and others who have heretofore been using Fedora as a general, secure

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Mike Pinkerton
On 10 Dec 2014, at 12:52, Ben Cotton wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Mike Pinkerton pseli...@mindspring.com wrote: I also am trying to figure out how I can use Fedora going forward to support general desktop requirements for SMB office workers, creative types and others who have

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 13:19 -0500, Mike Pinkerton wrote: Primarily the uncertainty of what changes the Workstation WG has made, coupled with Matthew Miller's comments that: Right now, 'desktop system with a security focus for new users' isn't a key part of that effort. ... So, if you're

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Pete Travis
On Dec 10, 2014 10:47 AM, Mike Pinkerton pseli...@mindspring.com wrote: On 10 Dec 2014, at 11:52, Jerry James wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Maros Zatko mza...@redhat.com wrote: Yes, there is netinstall in the Server variant, I suppose it's not the same as Workstation one and (as

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:47:20PM -0500, Mike Pinkerton wrote: As best I can tell from Matthew Miller's responses there, Fedora has abandoned that portion of its previous user base that was using Fedora as a general, secure by default, Gnome desktop OS. That's _very much_ not what I

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Mike Pinkerton pseli...@mindspring.com wrote: Primarily the uncertainty of what changes the Workstation WG has made, coupled with Matthew Miller's comments that: deletia I also don't know whether Workstation updates will pull in other similarly bad ideas in

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Felix Miata
Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-10 13:54 (UTC+0100): Maros Zatko composed: I've noticed that other download options besides LIVE images are now gone from the website. Can you please explain how should (normal) user find non-LIVE image links there? I know this has been (probably

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Felix Miata
Michael Catanzaro composed on 2014-12-10 18:37 (UTC+0100): On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 09:52 -0700, Jerry James wrote: I guess I could go with one of the spins, but I don't see a GNOME spin anywhere. Is there really no DVD image for a generic GNOME desktop install? This would be redundant with

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.12.2014 um 00:58 schrieb Felix Miata: Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-10 13:54 (UTC+0100): Maros Zatko composed: I've noticed that other download options besides LIVE images are now gone from the website. Can you please explain how should (normal) user find non-LIVE image links

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Reindl Harald
uhm - wrong screenshot in previous message :-( Am 11.12.2014 um 01:06 schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 11.12.2014 um 00:58 schrieb Felix Miata: Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-10 13:54 (UTC+0100): Maros Zatko composed: I've noticed that other download options besides LIVE images are now gone

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Felix Miata
[ re: https://getfedora.org/ ] Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-11 01:06 (UTC+0100): Felix Miata composed: Actions speak louder than words. The need to zoom 3X-6X to reach legible a legible state belies polished, easy to use. no need to zoom anything and as said my eyes are really not

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Sorry to cut in, but whom can I contact about localization issues with the getfedora.org website? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct