Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-14 Thread Henrik Nordström
ons 2010-12-08 klockan 11:41 + skrev Peter Robinson: It was my understanding that abrt was suppose to block on backtraces without debuginfo but I still regularly get bugs with little or no decent info. True. I accidently filed a such abrt report some time ago. I assumed it would fetch the

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matt Domsch wrote: Last built on Fedora 12 (52): Huh? The right metric is not when was this last built but when was this last BUILDABLE. We don't randomly rebuild stuff which doesn't need to be rebuilt. E.g.: celestia-1.5.1-2.fc12 [u'631077 NEW'] (build/make) steve,mmahut (the first one on

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Fenzi wrote: Have you considered training up some bugzappers to help triage your components? They could at least work on de-duping abrt reports. Uh, I've pretty much given up on handling ABRT reports entirely. Even if they were deduped, there are so many different Gnash crashes that's

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Toshio Kuratomi wrote: They shouldn't have to go through a re-review unless they've let the package sit in retirement for (I believe it's six months but someone else might have the policy URL handy). Only 3 months. And if the package doesn't build, the maintainer is probably not going to

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-10 Thread Matt Domsch
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 01:44:54AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Matt Domsch wrote: Last built on Fedora 12 (52): Huh? The right metric is not when was this last built but when was this last BUILDABLE. We don't randomly rebuild stuff which doesn't need to be rebuilt. E.g.:

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-09 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 11:48:26AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: so are all these bugs, for that matter: they're actual bugs encountered by

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-09 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
PR == Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com writes: PR My understanding was that if it was blocked it had to go through PR review again. Depends on how long: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Orphaned_package_that_need_new_maintainers Re-review required for older packages If a package was last

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 01:05 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: And I'll go back to fixing actual bugs encountered by people instead of random bot-driven bugs. every abrt report, ever, is an actual bug encountered by an actual person. They have to be sufficiently narked about the app crashing (and it

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/08/2010 09:50 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 01:05 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: I agree it's a bit questionable whether we should block packages for FTBFS, IMO, there can't be any doubt about FTBFS's to be must fixes and them to release blockers for packages being

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-08 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 18:12 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:05:06 + Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote: ...snip... The lists may be broken down by when they last did build. With 3 exceptions, these 110 bugs are all still in NEW state as well, so they

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:12 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:05:06 + Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote: ...snip...   The lists may be broken down by when they last did build.  With 3 exceptions, these 110 bugs are all still in NEW state as well, so

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 01:05 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: And I'll go back to fixing actual bugs encountered by people instead of random bot-driven bugs. every abrt report, ever, is an actual bug encountered by an

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-08 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 11:37 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: snip GNOME's dup finder: http://git.gnome.org/browse/bugzilla-newer/tree/dupfinder The README is probably outdated, as per: http://live.gnome.org/BugzillaUpgrade/UpgradeStatus#Simple-dup-finder Filed as:

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-08 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 00:50 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 01:05 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: And I'll go back to fixing actual bugs encountered by people instead of random bot-driven bugs. every abrt report, ever, is an actual bug encountered by an actual person.

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-08 Thread Matt Domsch
On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 12:01:39PM +, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 00:50 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 01:05 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: And I'll go back to fixing actual bugs encountered by people instead of random bot-driven bugs. every

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 12:01:39 +, Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote: It's a file'n'dump bug. There's no one that actually looked at the bugs to try and analyse them, nobody to offer a reminder in the bugs (they were filed and left untouched). I went through a number of FTBFS

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-08 Thread Jon Masters
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 20:29 -0600, Matt Domsch wrote: My goal isn't to make life difficult for everyone. My goal is to keep the distribution in a form where it can actually build from the open source we provide. Thanks Matt. What you're doing is vitally important for the distribution, since

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-08 Thread Jon Ciesla
Matt Domsch wrote: I would like to propose blocking packages at the F15 alpha compose point if they have not resolved their FTBFS from F14 or earlier. The lists may be broken down by when they last did build. With 3 exceptions, these 110 bugs are all still in NEW state as well, so they

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-08 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 11:48:26AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: so are all these bugs, for that matter: they're actual bugs encountered by Matt. The package failing to build is clearly a bug. Matt tried to build it

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 11:01:20PM -0600, Matt Domsch wrote: mingw32-libglademm24-2.6.7-8.fc12 [u'631374 NEW'] (build/make) sailer,rjones mingw32-pangomm-2.26.0-1.fc12 [u'631208 NEW'] (build/make) sailer,rjones mingw32-plotmm-0.1.2-4.fc12 [u'631082 NEW'] (build/make) sailer,rjones

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-07 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Matt Domsch wrote: I would like to propose blocking packages at the F15 alpha compose point if they have not resolved their FTBFS from F14 or earlier.  The lists may be broken down by when they last did build.  With 3 exceptions, these 110 bugs are all still in

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-07 Thread Matt Domsch
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 02:10:00PM -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Matt Domsch wrote: I would like to propose blocking packages at the F15 alpha compose point if they have not resolved their FTBFS from F14 or earlier. ??The lists may be broken down by when they

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-07 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com wrote: Note that I am not advocating keeping these packages unfixed. I wanted to point out that things might turn ugly and might even trigger an avalanche when you remove the FTBFS packages from the repo and then the packages

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-07 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 23:01 -0600, Matt Domsch wrote: I would like to propose blocking packages at the F15 alpha compose point if they have not resolved their FTBFS from F14 or earlier. You better not. The lists may be broken down by when they last did build. With 3 exceptions, these 110

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-07 Thread Matt Domsch
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 11:01:20PM -0600, Matt Domsch wrote: I would like to propose blocking packages at the F15 alpha compose point if they have not resolved their FTBFS from F14 or earlier. The lists may be broken down by when they last did build. With 3 exceptions, these 110 bugs are all

Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-06 Thread Matt Domsch
I would like to propose blocking packages at the F15 alpha compose point if they have not resolved their FTBFS from F14 or earlier. The lists may be broken down by when they last did build. With 3 exceptions, these 110 bugs are all still in NEW state as well, so they haven't had much maintainer

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-06 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On 12/6/2010 23:01, Matt Domsch wrote: I would like to propose blocking packages at the F15 alpha compose point if they have not resolved their FTBFS from F14 or earlier. The lists may be broken down by when they last did build. With 3 exceptions, these 110 bugs are all still in NEW state as

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-06 Thread Matt Domsch
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 11:13:49PM -0600, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: On 12/6/2010 23:01, Matt Domsch wrote: I would like to propose blocking packages at the F15 alpha compose point if they have not resolved their FTBFS from F14 or earlier. The lists may be broken down by when they last did

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-06 Thread Jeffrey Fearn
Matt Domsch wrote: I would like to propose blocking packages at the F15 alpha compose point if they have not resolved their FTBFS from F14 or earlier. The lists may be broken down by when they last did build. With 3 exceptions, these 110 bugs are all still in NEW state as well, so they

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-06 Thread Matt Domsch
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 03:35:35PM +1000, Jeffrey Fearn wrote: Matt Domsch wrote: I would like to propose blocking packages at the F15 alpha compose point if they have not resolved their FTBFS from F14 or earlier. The lists may be broken down by when they last did build. With 3

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-06 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/07/2010 06:41 AM, Matt Domsch wrote: On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 03:35:35PM +1000, Jeffrey Fearn wrote: Matt Domsch wrote: I would like to propose blocking packages at the F15 alpha compose point if they have not resolved their FTBFS from F14 or earlier. The lists may be broken down by

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-06 Thread Jon Masters
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 23:01 -0600, Matt Domsch wrote: I trust module-init-tools will get resolved with an impending upstream release. Not like that can go unfixed forever. :-) Should be fixed before Wednesday (tomorrow). I have some fixes for compressed modules too. Will let you know when