RE: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-17 Thread Avery, David [DENTK]
:52 PM To: Development discussions related to Fedora Subject: Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work? On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 15:00 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: EDID DDC are mere conveniences unnecessary to the function of the device. I really couldn't care less whether EDID/DDC

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On 12/08/10 15:11, Felix Miata wrote: I updated system yesterday, installed scd just now: [init 3]# system-config-display Has it not been replaced by xrandr for display porpoises? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread David Malcolm
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 10:11 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: I updated system yesterday, installed scd just now: [init 3]# system-config-display File /usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py, line 27, in module import xf86config File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xf86config.py, line 1,

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work? [13 fixed]

2010-08-12 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/08/12 10:52 (GMT-0400) David Malcolm composed: On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 10:11 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Doesn't work in F13 either: # system-config-display File /usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py, line 33, in module import system_config_keyboard.keyboard as keyboard

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/08/12 10:52 (GMT-0400) David Malcolm composed: On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 10:11 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: I updated system yesterday, installed scd just now: [init 3]# system-config-display File /usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py, line 27, in module import xf86config File

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 10:11 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: I updated system yesterday, installed scd just now: [init 3]# system-config-display File /usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py, line 27, in module import xf86config File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/xf86config.py, line 1,

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/08/12 10:46 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed: It's more or less dead. ajax technically maintains it, but it's right at the bottom of his priority list and we've been wanting to drop it for ages. It's useful for almost nothing these days, especially now GNOME has a mechanism for

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread Bill Nottingham
Felix Miata (mrma...@earthlink.net) said: So users of absent or dysfunctional DDC and/or EDID should be committed to 800x600 or 1024x768 @96DPI until they replace their (quality, antique, still working just fine) displays Just as a point, if the EDID/DDC is dysfunctional, then I don't think

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 14:32 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: The reason I started this thread is precisely because I have little tolerance for being stuck in last century's 1024x...@96dpi lowfi on a display I've been running 2048x1536 on for roughly a decade. Before xrandr, X could itself perform

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 14:32 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2010/08/12 10:46 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed: It's more or less dead. ajax technically maintains it, but it's right at the bottom of his priority list and we've been wanting to drop it for ages. It's useful for almost

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/08/12 14:38 (GMT-0400) Bill Nottingham composed: Felix Miata said: So users of absent or dysfunctional DDC and/or EDID should be committed to 800x600 or 1024x768 @96DPI until they replace their (quality, antique, still working just fine) displays Just as a point, if the EDID/DDC

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/08/12 11:55 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed: if you want to maintain s-c-d, I'm sure ajax would be more than happy to hand over ownership. Being a non-programmer I'm confident there's little likelihood I'd be competent to attempt such an endeavor. Nevertheless, my complaints are

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 14:32:21 -0400, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: So users of absent or dysfunctional DDC and/or EDID should be committed to 800x600 or 1024x768 @96DPI until they replace their (quality, antique, still working just fine) displays or learn the cryptic and

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 15:00 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: EDID DDC are mere conveniences unnecessary to the function of the device. I really couldn't care less whether EDID/DDC exists, much less works. What matters (works just fine) from a display, which may have been manufactured before the

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 15:13 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: For the benefit of those few, and there will likely always be some, for whom automatic isn't, some tool is needed upstream in Xorg, possibly SaX2 or SCD at least as a starting point. A wider call for a maintainer of SaX2 or SCD or some

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/08/12 16:53 (GMT-0400) Adam Jackson composed: On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 15:13 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: For the benefit of those few, and there will likely always be some, for whom automatic isn't, some tool is needed upstream in Xorg, possibly SaX2 or SCD at least as a starting point. A

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/08/12 16:52 (GMT-0400) Adam Jackson composed: On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 15:00 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: EDID DDC are mere conveniences unnecessary to the function of the device. I really couldn't care less whether EDID/DDC exists, much less works. What matters (works just fine) from a

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 17:08 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2010/08/12 16:53 (GMT-0400) Adam Jackson composed: On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 15:13 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: For the benefit of those few, and there will likely always be some, for whom automatic isn't, some tool is needed upstream

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 13:13, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: On 2010/08/12 11:55 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed: if you want to maintain s-c-d, I'm sure ajax would be more than happy to hand over ownership. Being a non-programmer I'm confident there's little likelihood I'd be