Re: /etc/profile.d/lang.sh -- still needed?

2018-06-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 06/07/2018 06:50 AM, Jan Pokorný wrote: > On 14/05/18 17:19 +0200, David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: >> does anybody know if the files /etc/profile.d/lang.{csh,sh} >> are still used these days, and what for? >> Do we still need them in Fedora? >> Should they be installed by default these days? >>

Re: /etc/profile.d/lang.sh -- still needed?

2018-06-07 Thread Jan Pokorný
On 14/05/18 17:19 +0200, David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: > does anybody know if the files /etc/profile.d/lang.{csh,sh} > are still used these days, and what for? > Do we still need them in Fedora? > Should they be installed by default these days? > > Any info is appreciated! :) Frankly, had no

Re: /etc/profile.d/lang.sh -- still needed?

2018-05-15 Thread David Kaspar [Dee'Kej]
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 3:46 PM, R P Herrold wrote: > If you wish to 'clean out' initscripts, migrate the content > into the relevant bash, and tcsh packages, and be done with it > ​Yeah, you're right. Good point.​ Though I would prefer these scripts be moved into 'setup'

Re: /etc/profile.d/lang.sh -- still needed?

2018-05-15 Thread David Kaspar [Dee'Kej]
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 3:30 PM, Akira TAGOH wrote: > how/what does those scripts "block"? > ​Right now, it depends on the "/usr/sbin/consoletype​", which is also part of initscripts. I hope it will be possible to just switch it to "tty" utility instead, so the dependency on

Re: /etc/profile.d/lang.sh -- still needed?

2018-05-15 Thread R P Herrold
On Tue, 15 May 2018, David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: > It could at least tell us the current state of things, and maybe create a > plan on how to fix things, so they could be eventually removed at some > point. > > In any case I would like to find a new home for these scripts, so they > don't

Re: /etc/profile.d/lang.sh -- still needed?

2018-05-15 Thread Akira TAGOH
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 8:39 PM, David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: > I still get the feeling like we are not totally sure these scripts are still > needed nowadays. We definitely need it as long as we are relying on the environment variable to set a locale. particularly to

Re: /etc/profile.d/lang.sh -- still needed?

2018-05-15 Thread David Kaspar [Dee'Kej]
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 9:45 AM, Akira TAGOH wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 12:41 AM, David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] > wrote: > > My question was more meant in a sense "are those files still necessary"? > :) > > I expect they were created to deal with some

Re: /etc/profile.d/lang.sh -- still needed?

2018-05-15 Thread Akira TAGOH
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 12:41 AM, David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: > My question was more meant in a sense "are those files still necessary"? :) > I expect they were created to deal with some problems with locale setting, > but from just looking into them it's hard for me to

Re: /etc/profile.d/lang.sh -- still needed?

2018-05-15 Thread Jens-Ulrik Petersen
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 12:19 AM, David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: > does anybody know if the files /etc/profile.d/lang.{csh,sh} are still used > these days, and what for? > Do we still need them in Fedora? > They are needed for example to not run Asian and Middle Eastern

Re: /etc/profile.d/lang.sh -- still needed?

2018-05-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 14 May 2018 at 11:41, David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 5:27 PM, R P Herrold wrote: >> >> On Mon, 14 May 2018, David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: >> >> > does anybody know if the files /etc/profile.d/lang.{csh,sh} are still >> > used

Re: /etc/profile.d/lang.sh -- still needed?

2018-05-14 Thread David Kaspar [Dee'Kej]
On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 5:27 PM, R P Herrold wrote: > On Mon, 14 May 2018, David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: > > > does anybody know if the files /etc/profile.d/lang.{csh,sh} are still > used > > these days, and what for? > > by their terms, they are a collection of I18N and