Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Andreas Schwab
Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com writes: When an F14 build goes stable through bodhi, it'll be inherited into rawhide. Unless there is already a release of the package tagged dist-f15, IIUC. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, sch...@redhat.com GPG Key fingerprint = D4E8 DBE3 3813 BB5D FA84 5EC7

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/12/2010 12:42 AM, Andreas Schwab wrote: Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com writes: When an F14 build goes stable through bodhi, it'll be inherited into rawhide. Unless there is already a release of the package tagged dist-f15, IIUC.

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Andreas Schwab
Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com writes: Yes, that is correct. An already built version on f15 will always be newer than anything coming up from f14. Which is exactly the situation with systemd. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, sch...@redhat.com GPG Key fingerprint = D4E8 DBE3 3813 BB5D FA84

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 12.08.10 00:52, Jesse Keating (jkeat...@redhat.com) wrote: Yes, that is correct. An already built version on f15 will always be newer than anything coming up from f14. Can I undo such a build? I did that mostly because I forgot that the branching already happened when I built

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Lennart Poettering wrote, at 08/12/2010 10:28 PM +9:00: On Thu, 12.08.10 00:52, Jesse Keating (jkeat...@redhat.com) wrote: Yes, that is correct. An already built version on f15 will always be newer than anything coming up from f14. Can I undo such a build? I did that mostly because I

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Chen Lei
Hi Lennart, I found that systemd-units depends on pkgconfig, is this dependency really needed for minimum systemd? Regards, Chen Lei -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said: Yes, that is correct. An already built version on f15 will always be newer than anything coming up from f14. Can I undo such a build? I did that mostly because I forgot that the branching already happened when I built systemd the first time

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:10:25PM +0800, Chen Lei wrote: I found that systemd-units depends on pkgconfig, is this dependency really needed for minimum systemd? Please file things like this in bugzilla so they don't get lost in the chaos of this discussion list. -- Matthew Miller

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 12.08.10 22:10, Chen Lei (supercyp...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi Lennart, Heya, I found that systemd-units depends on pkgconfig, is this dependency really needed for minimum systemd? Yes, this is intended this way. udev does the same these days. We consider .pc files simply a nice way

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Rudolf Kastl
instead of trying to workaround the problem i actually tried to check if a clean install of latest package would work properly with this result: Installing : systemd-units-5-2.fc15.x86_64 1/4 /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.sqw1k7: line 25: 19348

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/11/2010 09:02 AM, Rudolf Kastl wrote: instead of trying to workaround the problem i actually tried to check if a clean install of latest package would work properly with this result: Installing : systemd-units-5-2.fc15.x86_64 This is far from being the latest packages ( the latest

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/11/2010 10:32 AM, Rudolf Kastl wrote: 2010/8/11 Jóhann B. Guðmundssonjohan...@gmail.com: On 08/11/2010 09:02 AM, Rudolf Kastl wrote: instead of trying to workaround the problem i actually tried to check if a clean install of latest package would work properly with this result:

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Rudolf Kastl
2010/8/11 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com:  On 08/11/2010 10:32 AM, Rudolf Kastl wrote: 2010/8/11 Jóhann B. Guðmundssonjohan...@gmail.com: On 08/11/2010 09:02 AM, Rudolf Kastl wrote: instead of trying to workaround the problem i actually tried to check if a clean install of latest

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On 11/08/10 11:32, Rudolf Kastl wrote: snip wrong: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=10477 the newer versions have only been built for f14 not rawhide. snip I guess they are waiting to iron out a few bugs on F14 systemd\selinux\udev? Before they push the same broken

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Frank Murphy wrote: I guess they are waiting to iron out a few bugs on F14 systemd\selinux\udev? Before they push the same broken updates to F15(Rawhide) Normally, development is supposed to happen in Rawhide FIRST. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 01:40 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: I guess they are waiting to iron out a few bugs on F14 systemd\selinux\udev? Before they push the same broken updates to F15(Rawhide) Normally, development is supposed to happen in Rawhide FIRST. Frank's guess

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 04:11 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 12.08.10 01:40, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: I guess they are waiting to iron out a few bugs on F14 systemd\selinux\udev? Before they push the same broken updates to

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/11/2010 07:11 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 12.08.10 01:40, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: I guess they are waiting to iron out a few bugs on F14 systemd\selinux\udev? Before they push the same

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On 04/08/10 20:41, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Disable selinux in grub and boot with upstart Grap the latest systemd packages from koji ( systemd and systemd-units ) Remove systemd and systemd-units ( rpm -e systemd systemd-units ) Reinstall systemd and systemd unit. reboot and allow

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-05 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 08/04/2010 02:54 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 04.08.10 02:40, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: On Wed, 04.08.10 00:10, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: Small addition. When I was referring to rawhide I meant both F-14 and the new rawhide. i.e.

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-04 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said: And here's another addition: you might also want to run this command when upgrading from older rwahide to current F-14/rawhide: # systemctl enable graphical.target This makes sure the default.target link is created properly I still

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 04.08.10 10:51, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote: Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said: And here's another addition: you might also want to run this command when upgrading from older rwahide to current F-14/rawhide: # systemctl enable graphical.target

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On 04/08/10 16:08, Lennart Poettering wrote: # systemctl enable graphical.target This makes sure the default.target link is created properly I still believe that for this particular one (and a few of the others) we should make the trivial changes to the spec to have it done automatically.

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 04.08.10 16:27, Frank Murphy (frankl...@gmail.com) wrote: On 04/08/10 16:08, Lennart Poettering wrote: # systemctl enable graphical.target This makes sure the default.target link is created properly I still believe that for this particular one (and a few of the others) we

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On 04/08/10 16:41, Lennart Poettering wrote: Well, can you be more precise? Can you try this bodhi build? Just got my daughter to take a video of start up, so will try grab snaps from it and or upload somewhere.

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-04 Thread Frank Murphy
This from an F13.x86 F14-Rawhide F14-Branched Guest (Host if F13.x86_64) Some still from the video: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-040810-185144.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-040810-185343.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-040810-185650.php

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-04 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/04/2010 06:05 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: This from an F13.x86 F14-Rawhide F14-Branched Guest (Host if F13.x86_64) Some still from the video: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-040810-185144.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-040810-185343.php

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-03 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 04.08.10 02:40, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: On Wed, 04.08.10 00:10, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: Small addition. When I was referring to rawhide I meant both F-14 and the new rawhide. i.e. both F-14 and F-15. And here's another addition: