Re: Election Status?

2023-05-29 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 29. 05. 23 v 7:03 Kevin Kofler via devel napsal(a): It*may* indicate priorities (which is a completely different discussion, and which you might, legitimately, ask if IBM and RH is committed, and at what level, to Fedora in the long term(*)). It was pretty clear in IBM's acquisition

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-28 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > Any particular position (in a large enough company like IBM, or RH) has > about zero impact on any organization's profits. Which is why they have laid off a whole bunch of people. They just happen to not be as visible as the (now former) Fedora Program Manager. > It

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-28 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 3:28 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > > RH's staff redundancies > > The position was clearly NOT redundant. The word (and all words are made up) is used by organizations to meet certain legal requirements (talk to *your* lawyer for a better

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-28 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > RH's staff redundancies The position was clearly NOT redundant. This is just RH unilaterally killing jobs including a central Fedora position in order to increase IBM's profits. Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list --

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-25 Thread Justin W. Flory (he/him)
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 5:54 PM Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 8:58 PM Justin W. Flory (he/him) > wrote: > > > > The elections are now scheduled to start on Monday, 29 May and end on > Sunday, 11 June. Documentation and schedules are being updated. > > > > On Thu, May 25, 2023

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-25 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 8:58 PM Justin W. Flory (he/him) wrote: > > The elections are now scheduled to start on Monday, 29 May and end on Sunday, > 11 June. Documentation and schedules are being updated. > > On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 6:55 AM Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 9:34 

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-25 Thread Justin W. Flory (he/him)
The elections are now scheduled to start on Monday, 29 May and end on Sunday, 11 June. Documentation and schedules are being updated. On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 6:55 AM Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 9:34 PM Gary Buhrmaster > wrote: > > > > I do understand why RedHat itself will not

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 7:58 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Joe Doss wrote: > > On 5/24/23 4:49 PM, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > >> Wait, what?? Someone at RH wakes up in the morning and decides to cut > >> one of the key roles (or better, THE) of Fedora community and this goes > >>

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-25 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Joe Doss wrote: > On 5/24/23 4:49 PM, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: >> Wait, what?? Someone at RH wakes up in the morning and decides to cut >> one of the key roles (or better, THE) of Fedora community and this goes >> completely unannounced, unnoticed and without any backup plan? >> >> I have

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 9:34 PM Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > > On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 9:50 PM Mattia Verga via devel > wrote: > > > Wait, what?? Someone at RH wakes up in the morning and decides to cut > > one of the key roles (or better, THE) of Fedora community and this goes > > completely

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Justin W. Flory (he/him)
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 6:35 PM Tom Stellard wrote: > I've filed a ticket here: > > https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/457 > > Thanks Kevin and Tom for getting this flagged as a Council ticket. -- *jwf* (*he/him*) ||  j...@redhat.com TZ=America/New_York (UTC-4)  While I may be

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Justin W. Flory (he/him)
Hi Gary, hi all, Thanks for filing the Fedora Council ticket and flagging this. Ben trained me on the election process and transferred ACLs to me before his final day at Red Hat. I dropped the ball on continuity. I will run the elections this round. The timing with Red Hat Summit this week, the

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 9:50 PM Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Wait, what?? Someone at RH wakes up in the morning and decides to cut > one of the key roles (or better, THE) of Fedora community and this goes > completely unannounced, unnoticed and without any backup plan? I do understand why

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Tom Stellard
On 5/24/23 13:00, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 12:36:58PM -0700, Tom Stellard wrote: On 5/24/23 12:31, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 7:23 PM Tom Stellard wrote: What's the process for selecting a new Program Manager? From the words that have been shared

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Joe Doss
On 5/24/23 4:49 PM, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: Wait, what?? Someone at RH wakes up in the morning and decides to cut one of the key roles (or better, THE) of Fedora community and this goes completely unannounced, unnoticed and without any backup plan? I have seen other dumb decisions by RH

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 24/05/23 21:19, Josh Boyer ha scritto: > On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 2:55 PM Peter Boy wrote: >> >> >>> Am 24.05.2023 um 20:30 schrieb Chris Murphy : >>> >>> I'm pretty sure we no longer have a program manager? >> What’s that about? > Red Hat recently announced a round of layoffs[1] and the Fedora

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 12:36:58PM -0700, Tom Stellard wrote: > On 5/24/23 12:31, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > > On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 7:23 PM Tom Stellard wrote: > > > > > What's the process for selecting a new Program Manager? > > > > From the words that have been shared at: > >

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Tom Stellard
On 5/24/23 12:31, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 7:23 PM Tom Stellard wrote: What's the process for selecting a new Program Manager? From the words that have been shared at: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/council/fpgm/ the position itself has been eliminated.

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 7:23 PM Tom Stellard wrote: > What's the process for selecting a new Program Manager? From the words that have been shared at: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/council/fpgm/ the position itself has been eliminated. The important responsibilities will

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 3:23 PM Tom Stellard wrote: > > On 5/24/23 12:19, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 2:55 PM Peter Boy wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> Am 24.05.2023 um 20:30 schrieb Chris Murphy : > >>> > >>> I'm pretty sure we no longer have a program manager? > >> > >> What’s

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Tom Stellard
On 5/24/23 12:19, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 2:55 PM Peter Boy wrote: Am 24.05.2023 um 20:30 schrieb Chris Murphy : I'm pretty sure we no longer have a program manager? What’s that about? Red Hat recently announced a round of layoffs[1] and the Fedora Program Manager

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 2:55 PM Peter Boy wrote: > > > > > Am 24.05.2023 um 20:30 schrieb Chris Murphy : > > > > I'm pretty sure we no longer have a program manager? > > What’s that about? Red Hat recently announced a round of layoffs[1] and the Fedora Program Manager role was impacted. Ben

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, May 24, 2023, at 2:55 PM, Peter Boy wrote: >> Am 24.05.2023 um 20:30 schrieb Chris Murphy : >> >> I'm pretty sure we no longer have a program manager? > > What’s that about? As I understand it, part of recent Red Hat layoffs. Red Hat and Fedora program/project managers were impacted.

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 24.05.2023 um 20:30 schrieb Chris Murphy : > > I'm pretty sure we no longer have a program manager? What’s that about? -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy p...@fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST /UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, May 24, 2023, at 12:03 PM, Tom Stellard wrote: > Hi, > > According to the schedule[1], the voting period was supposed to begin > on Friday, but elections.fedoraproject.org does not list any open elections > yet. Does anyone have an ETA for when voting will start? I'm pretty sure we no