Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-30 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 09:23:10PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 29/06/2022 20:58, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > No, it isn't. It's great ;) > > Why? I doubt fighting maintainers is a good thing for Fedora. Why are you assuming the added EPEL maintainers want to fight the existing

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-29 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 20:09 +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 29/06/2022 18:47, Robbie Harwood wrote: > > I don't see how you got there.  Nowhere does it say that the > > maintainer(s) are removed - just that one is added, and made > > contact for > > EPEL bugs. > > Newly added EPEL

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-29 Thread Carl George
If you're happy with the current version 1.0.49 from rawhide being branched for epel9, then the stalled process would be a good fit. With collaborator permissions on epel* branches, you can request the epel9 branch, merge commits from rawhide to epel9, create builds, and create bodhi updates. If

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-29 Thread Chris Adams
Jumping in on this... I opened BZ 2095512 a few weeks ago about getting pure-ftpd for EPEL 9, with a follow-up a week ago. There's already an EPEL 8 branch, so I guess that maintainer was notified (or do all get notified)? Looking at src.fedoraproject.org, it doesn't look like any of the

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-29 Thread Carl George
On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 2:30 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 29/06/2022 21:06, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > Maintainers are custodians and do not own the package. > > This becomes true with the new EPEL policy. I think it should be > revisited to follow Fedora's non-responsive maintainer

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-29 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 2:09 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 29/06/2022 18:47, Robbie Harwood wrote: > > I don't see how you got there. Nowhere does it say that the > > maintainer(s) are removed - just that one is added, and made contact for > > EPEL bugs. > > Newly added EPEL

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-29 Thread Carl George
On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 1:09 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 29/06/2022 18:47, Robbie Harwood wrote: > > I don't see how you got there. Nowhere does it say that the > > maintainer(s) are removed - just that one is added, and made contact for > > EPEL bugs. > > Newly added EPEL

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-29 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 29/06/2022 21:06, Stephen Smoogen wrote: Maintainers are custodians and do not own the package. This becomes true with the new EPEL policy. I think it should be revisited to follow Fedora's non-responsive maintainer procedure with an explicit FESCo approval on a case-by-case basis. --

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-29 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 29/06/2022 20:58, Miro Hrončok wrote: No, it isn't. It's great ;) Why? I doubt fighting maintainers is a good thing for Fedora. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-29 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Hi Robbie, On Wed, 2022-06-29 at 12:02 -0400, Robbie Harwood wrote: > In this case, because no one needinfo'd the maintainer, the EPEL > policy > can be slower (two weeks compared to the minimum ten days for > nonresponsive).  Also, a literal reading of the EPEL policy says that > the same person

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-29 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 at 14:52, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 29/06/2022 20:32, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > Yes, they can. So can a lot of other people and things in Fedora. > > Only proven-packagers in limited situations or people who have been > granted

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-29 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 29. 06. 22 20:50, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 29/06/2022 20:32, Stephen Smoogen wrote: Yes, they can. So can a lot of other people and things in Fedora. Only proven-packagers in limited situations or people who have been granted access by the package owner. This isn't other

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-29 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 29/06/2022 20:32, Stephen Smoogen wrote: Yes, they can. So can a lot of other people and things in Fedora. Only proven-packagers in limited situations or people who have been granted access by the package owner. This isn't other distros where a package maintainer is a defacto dictator

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-29 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 at 14:10, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 29/06/2022 18:47, Robbie Harwood wrote: > > I don't see how you got there. Nowhere does it say that the > > maintainer(s) are removed - just that one is added, and made contact for > > EPEL bugs.

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-29 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 29/06/2022 18:47, Robbie Harwood wrote: I don't see how you got there. Nowhere does it say that the maintainer(s) are removed - just that one is added, and made contact for EPEL bugs. Newly added EPEL maintainers can make any changes to Fedora branches. I don't like that. -- Sincerely,

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-29 Thread Robbie Harwood
Vitaly Zaitsev via devel writes: > On 29/06/2022 01:18, Maxwell G via devel wrote: > >> You might also be interested in the Stalled EPEL Requests >> policy[1]. This would've allowed you to get permissions to branch the >> package for EPEL without going through the non-responsive maintainer >>

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-29 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 29/06/2022 01:18, Maxwell G via devel wrote: You might also be interested in the Stalled EPEL Requests policy[1]. This would've allowed you to get permissions to branch the package for EPEL without going through the non-responsive maintainer process. This policy looks like a package hijack

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-29 Thread Robbie Harwood
Maxwell G via devel writes: > On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 4:30:14 PM CDT Robbie Harwood wrote: >> I have started the responsive maintainer process due to lack of contact >> through bugzilla mail. Specifically, this is about an epel9 branch, >> which has been repeatedly requested since March

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-28 Thread Maxwell G via devel
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 4:30:14 PM CDT Robbie Harwood wrote: > I have started the responsive maintainer process due to lack of contact > through bugzilla mail. Specifically, this is about an epel9 branch, > which has been repeatedly requested since March (including an offer to > maintain the

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Alex Chernyakhovsky

2022-06-28 Thread Robbie Harwood
Alex Chernyakhovsky writes: > I just replied on bugzilla. No one has attempted to contact me before. Well... as a Fedora maintainer, there's an expectation that you'll read your bugzilla email from time to time :) I know stuff happens, and from your bz comment it sounds like there was some