Re: debuginfo packages available in updates later than regular packages.

2013-11-26 Thread Sandro Mani
On 26.11.2013 03:55, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jan Kratochvil wrote: There were multiple Bugs suggesting the same, they are linked together for example from this one from 2005. But it all got WONTFIXed: Debug info RPMs do not require exact maching binary rpm

Re: debuginfo packages available in updates later than regular packages.

2013-11-26 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 26 novembre 2013 03:55, Kevin Kofler a écrit : Jan Kratochvil wrote: There were multiple Bugs suggesting the same, they are linked together for example from this one from 2005. But it all got WONTFIXed: Debug info RPMs do not require exact maching binary rpm

Re: debuginfo packages available in updates later than regular packages.

2013-11-26 Thread Christopher Meng
Isn't it should be implemented implicitly in RPM? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: debuginfo packages available in updates later than regular packages.

2013-11-26 Thread Sandro Mani
On 26.11.2013 11:50, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Mar 26 novembre 2013 03:55, Kevin Kofler a écrit : Jan Kratochvil wrote: There were multiple Bugs suggesting the same, they are linked together for example from this one from 2005. But it all got WONTFIXed: Debug info RPMs do not require exact

Re: debuginfo packages available in updates later than regular packages.

2013-11-26 Thread Sandro Mani
On 26.11.2013 11:50, Christopher Meng wrote: Isn't it should be implemented implicitly in RPM? It is just a proof of concept/idea. Will hardly be implemented like this, if something similar is going to be implemented. Sandro -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: debuginfo packages available in updates later than regular packages.

2013-11-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Sandro Mani wrote: [1] http://smani.fedorapeople.org/somepackage.spec Yeah, that hack looks like it could work, sorta. If you have multiple subpackages installed, having only one subpackage of the correct version and the others of wrong versions will still be satisfying the dependency in the

Re: debuginfo packages available in updates later than regular packages.

2013-11-26 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 11:39:38 +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: Here is a quick and dirty spec implementing the idea I described: [1]. From what I can see it behaves correctly with any combination of packages and subpackages installed. Am I missing something? [1]

Re: debuginfo packages available in updates later than regular packages.

2013-11-26 Thread Sandro Mani
On 26.11.2013 19:55, Kevin Kofler wrote: Sandro Mani wrote: [1] http://smani.fedorapeople.org/somepackage.spec Yeah, that hack looks like it could work, sorta. If you have multiple subpackages installed, having only one subpackage of the correct version and the others of wrong versions will

Re: debuginfo packages available in updates later than regular packages.

2013-11-25 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:50:51 +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: A nice solution to ensure consistency could be to have each debuginfo package require the exact version of the base package installed. Since the debuginfo package however cannot know which base (sub)package it should depend on, I wonder

Re: debuginfo packages available in updates later than regular packages.

2013-11-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jan Kratochvil wrote: There were multiple Bugs suggesting the same, they are linked together for example from this one from 2005. But it all got WONTFIXed: Debug info RPMs do not require exact maching binary rpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=151598 The problem with those

Re: debuginfo packages available in updates later than regular packages.

2013-11-24 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, 2013-11-24 at 16:50 +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: From abrt-reported bugs where people generate the backtraces locally, it occasionally happens that they send incomplete backtraces due to mismatching debugsymbols, and it would certainly help increasing the quality of backtraces if such

Re: debuginfo packages available in updates later than regular packages.

2013-11-24 Thread Sandro Mani
On 24.11.2013 17:55, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Sun, 2013-11-24 at 16:50 +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: From abrt-reported bugs where people generate the backtraces locally, it occasionally happens that they send incomplete backtraces due to mismatching debugsymbols, and it would certainly help

Re: debuginfo packages available in updates later than regular packages.

2013-11-24 Thread Josh Stone
On 11/24/2013 09:13 AM, Sandro Mani wrote: Oh, I never noticed this! I take the reason the debuginfo packages do not live in the normal repos is that one wants to reduce the repodata/filelist size? Could the current situation be improved by an approach similar to: - Move the debuginfo repo

Re: debuginfo packages available in updates later than regular packages.

2013-11-24 Thread Josh Stone
On 11/24/2013 10:51 AM, Josh Stone wrote: On 11/24/2013 09:13 AM, Sandro Mani wrote: Oh, I never noticed this! I take the reason the debuginfo packages do not live in the normal repos is that one wants to reduce the repodata/filelist size? Could the current situation be improved by an

Re: debuginfo packages available in updates later than regular packages.

2013-11-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:50:51 +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: Hi, I wondered what the reason is that debuginfo packages seem to enter the repos only at the successive push compared to the regular packages, which ultimately means that debuginfo packages are available in updates ca 1 day after

Re: debuginfo packages available in updates later than regular packages.

2013-11-24 Thread Sandro Mani
On 24.11.2013 21:52, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:50:51 +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: Hi, I wondered what the reason is that debuginfo packages seem to enter the repos only at the successive push compared to the regular packages, which ultimately means that debuginfo packages