Re: playing flash regression in f13-beta

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Luming Yu wrote: >> Hmm,... tried ff 3.6.4, not working... > > > Just fyi, the flash video in question works fine for me in a fully > updated 64bit F13 beta using the 64bit flash using the tarball from > the

Re: playing flash regression in f13-beta

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 24/04/10 11:13, Luming Yu wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> I came across a really weird problem with flash player on playing >> these video on http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/index.html >> >> For those featured videos like Bacteria-size

Re: The package 'gentoo' seems unmaintained for months

On 04/26/2010 02:07 PM, Thomas Janssen wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Robin 'cheese' Lee > wrote: > >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/gentoo >> >> If the owner takes no count of this package, I would like to co-maintain it. >> My FAS account is 'cheeselee'. >> Than

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 12:45 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 13:37:11 -0400, > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 10:08 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > > > I don't see how using Mozilla trademarks provides significant benefit > > > to Fedora. It seems to

Re: The package 'gentoo' seems unmaintained for months

Am Montag, den 26.04.2010, 16:04 +0800 schrieb Robin 'cheese' Lee: > Never get a reply from Matthias, no matter through > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/gentoo , > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=561303 , > matth...@rpmforge.net or gentoo-ow...@fedoraproject.org . I

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Quentin Armitage wrote: > On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 12:45 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 13:37:11 -0400, >>   Matthias Clasen wrote: >> > On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 10:08 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> > >> > > I don't see how using Mozilla tra

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Mail Lists wrote: > On 04/25/2010 07:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> The upstream version has that bug too, they just don't care about it enough >> to release a fixed version in a timely manner. > > >  OH - FYI, I am running upstream and I don't have that problem ...

Re: playing flash regression in f13-beta

On 26/04/10 09:01, Luming Yu wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> On 24/04/10 11:13, Luming Yu wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> >>> I came across a really weird problem with flash player on playing >>> these video on http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/index.html >>> >>>

Re: The package 'gentoo' seems unmaintained for months

On 04/26/2010 04:12 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Montag, den 26.04.2010, 16:04 +0800 schrieb Robin 'cheese' Lee: > > >> Never get a reply from Matthias, no matter through >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/gentoo , >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=561303 , >>

Re: Please move your ABRT bugs upstream

On Sunday 25 April 2010 10:33:13 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Christoph Wickert wrote: > > I'm upstreaming reports from 'lazy idiots' too and some of them get > > fixed. In fact the percentage of the ones that get fixed is not > > different from the 'active' reporters cause usually the backtrace > > conta

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On 04/25/2010 07:37 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 10:08 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >> I don't see how using Mozilla trademarks provides significant benefit >> to Fedora. It seems to mostly benefit Mozilla. I don't see why we should >> be breaking our rules to help them. >

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On 04/25/2010 11:48 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> Isn't this a FESCO issue? Maybe it is time to reopen this issue? > > Knowing my fellow FESCo members, I don't think I'll get a majority to agree > with me. :-( Well, may-be FESCO should decide upon on whether the FSF's "freedo

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On 04/26/2010 02:11 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Well, may-be FESCO should decide upon on whether the FSF's > "freedom 3" [1] is a inclusion/exclusion criterion for packages in Fedora. > > Ralf > > [1] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html > It is (except for firmware) but before you wave i

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 04/26/2010 02:11 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> Well, may-be FESCO should decide upon on whether the FSF's >> "freedom 3" [1] is a inclusion/exclusion criterion for packages in Fedora. >> >> Ralf >> >> [1] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free

Re: playing flash regression in f13-beta

On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 15:50 +0800, Luming Yu wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Luming Yu wrote: > >> Hmm,... tried ff 3.6.4, not working... > > > > > > Just fyi, the flash video in question works fine for me in a fully > > updated

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On 04/26/2010 02:39 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > > May I ask whether anyone has the same crash occurring with Thunderbird > 3.1b2? I have been running the nightlies for that version for months > without any problem - is the crash only occurring with version 3.0.x? > Rather than planning on breaking

Re: playing flash regression in f13-beta

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 26/04/10 09:01, Luming Yu wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Frank Murphy  wrote: >>> On 24/04/10 11:13, Luming Yu wrote: Hi there, I came across a really weird problem with flash player on playing these video on

preupgrade 1.1.5 released

Preupgrade prepares a Fedora system for an upgrade. Version 1.1.5 ~~ Released: 2010-04-26 * Translations - Add initial il8n support for preupgrade (Igor Pires Soares) - Add il8n support for preupgrade-cli. Fixes rh#562036 (Igor Pires Soares) * Bugfix: - Add 'clearpart --none' to

Re: Postgresql namespace

On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 12:22 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Any reason not to have it in the Fedora repo instead of your own? I'm not the maintainer of PostgreSQL package in Fedora/RHEL. Tom (Lane) has been already maintaining it and doing very good job over there at Red Hat. He will *probably* do

Re: Postgresql namespace

On 04/26/2010 04:47 PM, Devrim GÜNDÜZ wrote > FWIW, since Fedora/RHEL (up to 5.5) does support only 1 PostgreSQL > version w/ RPMs, this 3rd party repository helps people to use recent > PG versions with their distros. (Majority of our users are RHEL 5 users, > who use PostgreSQL 8.3 and 8.4 on RH

Re: Postgresql namespace

On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 16:58 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Perhaps I was not clear but my question was if multiple of Postgres is > a useful to thing to have, why don't we do it in the Fedora repo > instead of having users seek out and use a third party repo? As I wrote: I'm *not* maintaining Pos

Re: [Crash-catcher] ABRT duplicate detection

On 04/25/2010 09:33 PM, Radek Vokal wrote: > 2010/4/24 Christoph Höger: >> Hi all, >> >> I was just wondering: How mature is ABRTs duplicate detection? >> >> You might all know the MS "search for a solution to this problem" window >> popping up after an application crashes. I've never seen it doing

Re: ABRT duplicate detection

On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 09:33:40PM +0200, Radek Vokal wrote: > > You might all know the MS "search for a solution to this problem" window > > popping up after an application crashes. I've never seen it doing > > something usefull, though. But if ABRT could detect duplicate crashes > > one could use

How to contact Matthias Saou?

According to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers , I now ask if anyone knows how to contact Matthias Saou. I would like to co-maintain the package 'gentoo'. I have provided enough information to update this package. Refer to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/sh

Re: How to contact Matthias Saou?

Robin Lee You can go to IRC channel #fedora-admin, and say that the packager of gentoo disappears. You can not contract with him. Then admin follows your case. Liang Suilong On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Robin 'cheese' Lee wrote: > According to > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_non

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On 04/26/2010 10:52 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 04/26/2010 02:11 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> Well, may-be FESCO should decide upon on whether the FSF's >> "freedom 3" [1] is a inclusion/exclusion criterion for packages in Fedora. >> >> Ralf >> >> [1] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html >

Re: How to contact Matthias Saou?

Robin 'cheese' Lee wrote: > According to > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers > , > I now ask if anyone knows how to contact Matthias Saou. > I had started[1] this process weeks ago. He rebuilt easytag a few days after my initial e-mail but for an unrelate

Re: How to contact Matthias Saou?

On 2010-04-26 21:35:53，"Michael Cronenworth" wrote： >I had started[1] this process weeks ago. He rebuilt easytag a few days >after my initial e-mail but for an unrelated bug report. He has not >responded to my direct e-mails or bug reports or shown any other >activity since. > >[1] http://list

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On 04/26/2010 07:05 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 04/26/2010 10:52 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 04/26/2010 02:11 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >>> Well, may-be FESCO should decide upon on whether the FSF's >>> "freedom 3" [1] is a inclusion/exclusion criterion for packages in >>> Fedora. >>> >>> Ra

Re: How to contact Matthias Saou?

2010/4/26 Chen Lei : > On 2010-04-26 21:35:53，"Michael Cronenworth"   wrote： >>I had started[1] this process weeks ago. He rebuilt easytag a few days >>after my initial e-mail but for an unrelated bug report. He has not >>responded to my direct e-mails or bug reports or shown any other >>activity s

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On 04/26/2010 09:35 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > * The Fedora Mozilla packages can't be bug-fixed/patched. > Cause: The package is non-free. > > * The Fedora Mozilla package can't be made compliant to the FPG. > Cause the packages are non-free. Neither of these are true. The Fedora Mozilla packag

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

2010/4/26 Tom "spot" Callaway : > The Fedora Mozilla packages can be bug-fixed/patched. If Mozilla doesn't > accept the patches upstream first, we would no longer have permission to > use their trademarks, and would need to remove them when we did so. You just said something like "yes we can, but

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On 04/26/2010 07:26 PM, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > As to why we have not simply patched at will, and discarded the > trademarks, well, I think that is ultimately up to FESCo and the > Maintainer(s) to decide how we wish to operate in that manner. > Alright. So I have filed this issue with FE

Re: How to contact Matthias Saou?

On 2010-04-26 21:54:13，"Thomas Janssen" wrote： >Ah, no thanks. I have packages without a co-maintainer and i don't >want anyone be able to fiddle with it. May the package or fix be >trivial or not. I prefer to have a provenpackager for that. This could be done with a QA page which compares upst

Re: How to contact Matthias Saou?

Robin 'cheese' Lee wrote : > According to > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers > , > I now ask if anyone knows how to contact Matthias Saou. Pong! So, I guess I can answer "me!" :-) > I would like to co-maintain the package 'gentoo'. > I have provided e

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On 04/26/2010 07:44 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > > It's not up to maintainer to decide whether to provide non-free > package in Fedora. And I don't see why we need to ask FESCo for > resolution of this (clearly visible for almost everyone) violation of > our guidelines. > Mozilla has some restri

Re: How to contact Matthias Saou?

On 04/26/2010 10:19 PM, Matthias Saou wrote: > Robin 'cheese' Lee wrote : > > >> According to >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers >> , >> I now ask if anyone knows how to contact Matthias Saou. >> > Pong! So, I guess I can answer "me!" :-) > >

Re: Postgresql namespace

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 02:17:57PM +0300, Devrim GÜNDÜZ wrote: > FWIW, since Fedora/RHEL (up to 5.5) does support only 1 PostgreSQL > version w/ RPMs, this 3rd party repository helps people to use recent > PG versions with their distros. (Majority of our users are RHEL 5 users, > who use PostgreSQ

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On 04/26/2010 03:56 PM, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > On 04/26/2010 09:35 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> * The Fedora Mozilla packages can't be bug-fixed/patched. >> Cause: The package is non-free. >> >> * The Fedora Mozilla package can't be made compliant to the FPG. >> Cause the packages are n

A question about locale files

Hello! I am now dealing with a package named 'gentoo'. It installs following locale files: /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/gentoo.mo /usr/share/locale/es_MX/LC_MESSAGES/gentoo.mo /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/gentoo.mo /usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/gentoo.mo /usr/share/locale/ja_JP.UTF-8/LC

Re: A question about locale files

Hi Robin, I'm sure a peek into http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#Handling_Locale_Files will definitely help you. HTH, Felix Am 26.04.2010 17:46, schrieb Robin 'cheese' Lee: > Hello! > I am now dealing with a package named 'gentoo'. > It installs following locale files: > > /us

Re: A question about locale files

On 04/26/2010 11:48 PM, Felix Kaechele wrote: > Hi Robin, > > I'm sure a peek into > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#Handling_Locale_Files > will definitely help you. > > HTH, > Felix > > Am 26.04.2010 17:46, schrieb Robin 'cheese' Lee: > >> Hello! >> I am now dealing with a

F-13 Branched report: 20100426 changes

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Re: A question about locale files

Am 26.04.2010 17:46, schrieb Robin 'cheese' Lee: >> It installs following locale files: >>... >> /usr/share/locale/ru_RU.CP1251/LC_MESSAGES/gentoo.mo >> ... >> There are some issues here: >> 1. Directories like /usr/share/locale/ru_RU.* are not provided by any >> package. This conflicts with guid

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Re: Please move your ABRT bugs upstream

On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:10 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > I'm upstreaming reports from 'lazy idiots' too and some of them get > fixed. In fact the percentage of the ones that get fixed is not > different from the 'active' reporters cause usually the backtrace > contains all necessary data for t

Re: Postgresql namespace

Is there any reason why we aren't naming this as closed to upstream as possible? http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux http://yum.pgsqlrpms.org/8.4/fedora/fedora-12-x86_64/ BTW What's the difference between upstream packages and the

Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-04-27)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 19:00UTC (3pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. = Followups = #351 Create a policy for updates - status report on implementation #340 Determine and approve F11 end of life date = New Business =

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On 4/25/2010 8:37 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 10:08 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > >> I don't see how using Mozilla trademarks provides significant benefit >> to Fedora. It seems to mostly benefit Mozilla. I don't see why we should >> be breaking our rules to help them

Re: F13/i686: yum update emptied /boot, /bin, /lib, etc.

James Antill wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 15:52 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: >> >> On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Jim Meyering wrote: >> >> > I've just realized that I had a list of all packages/versions >> > that were installed as of a few weeks ago (April 5). >> > In case it helps: >> > >> >> Yah - the histo

Re: ABRT duplicate detection

Am Sonntag, den 25.04.2010, 19:56 +0200 schrieb Alexander Boström: > lör 2010-04-24 klockan 10:37 +0200 skrev Christoph Höger: > > > But if ABRT could detect duplicate crashes > > one could use this to display a workaround or even propose an update via > > packagekit. > > It could look in bodhi

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 14:48 -0400, Chris Tyler wrote: > * The trademark rules are there for a reason. Browser and e-mail clients > are some of the most common attack points on desktop systems, and > Mozilla needs to ensure that they don't get a black eye for some > vulnerability introduced by a di

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 10:36 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > IMO, *no* - it's time to spread the world about Mozilla's trademark > policy violating the prinicples of Free SW and Fedora's Mozilla being > hostage of it. You mean, much like the Fedora and Red Hat trademark policies, which say almost

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 16:48 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > As a propopent of "Free SW", my interest is to fight those who are > applying trademarks to undermine the principles of "free SW". This is not what Mozilla is doing. They are applying trademarks to protect the names Mozilla, Firefox and

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On 04/23/2010 12:03 AM, Martin Stransky wrote: > Hi, > > we're patching mozilla packages only for really critical issues because > of mozilla trademarks. We can't put any patch we want to the mozilla > package and ship it as 'Firefox' or 'Thunderbird'. To clarify a little further... The main purp

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 15:45:53 -0700, Christopher Aillon wrote: > > We do have an agreement with Mozilla and as such, we are permitted to > use the Firefox and Thunderbird trademarks. But even if we did not or > it were decided those marks were not important to us, I strongly feel > that

Re: Postgresql namespace

=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?= writes: > BTW What's the difference between upstream packages and the packages we > build as in why does upstream feel compelled to provide it's own > packages and repo? Upstream, or more accurately Devrim, provides prebuilt packages for a rang

Re: Please move your ABRT bugs upstream

On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 10:11 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:10 AM, Christoph Wickert > wrote: > > I'm upstreaming reports from 'lazy idiots' too and some of them get > > fixed. In fact the percentage of the ones that get fixed is not > > different from the 'active' reporter

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On 04/26/2010 03:52 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > And they should do things the right way as well. If they are bundling > libraries, they should stop doing that. Mozilla has to bundle to ship on Windows, Mac, even their builds for Linux where they don't control what versions of libraries are prese

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 09:33 +1000, Chris Jones wrote: > >>On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Frank Murphy > wrote: > On 19/04/10 23:51, Slava Zanko wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi folk, > > > > I want to

Re: playing flash regression in f13-beta

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 15:50 +0800, Luming Yu wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: >> > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Luming Yu wrote: >> >> Hmm,... tried ff 3.6.4, not working... >> > >> > >> > Just fyi, the fl

Re: playing flash regression in f13-beta

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 26/04/10 09:01, Luming Yu wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Frank Murphy  wrote: >>> On 24/04/10 11:13, Luming Yu wrote: Hi there, I came across a really weird problem with flash player on playing these video on

Re: playing flash regression in f13-beta

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Luming Yu wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> On 26/04/10 09:01, Luming Yu wrote: >>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Frank Murphy  wrote: On 24/04/10 11:13, Luming Yu wrote: > Hi there, > > I came across a really we

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

On 04/27/2010 12:09 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 10:36 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> IMO, *no* - it's time to spread the world about Mozilla's trademark >> policy violating the prinicples of Free SW and Fedora's Mozilla being >> hostage of it. > > You mean, much like the F