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I just submitted updates for el5 and f1{2,3,4} as well as a build for
rawhide (f15) of a new fedpkg build. Here is a summary from the rpm:
- - Error check the update call. #625679
- - Use the correct remote when listing revs
- - Add the bash
Hi, folks. There's a meeting slot tomorrow at the usual time, 2010-08-24
15:00 UTC. There's nothing new on the agenda page -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers:meeting-agenda-list - and I
can't think of any particularly pressing topics, so we may not need to
have a meeting. I'll be around
Hi,
On 08/20/2010 10:25 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
The attached list shows currently orphaned packages in F-14. If they are
not claimed by the end of next week, they will be blocked, potentially
breaking dependencies (and causing more things to be blocked...)
If you already co-maintain the
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:17:21 -0400, Matthew wrote:
Was there a conversation other than this FESCO meeting?
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-06-15/fesco.2010-06-15-19.35.log.html#l-446
There, I see this discussion:
20:51:41 mezcalero so, i would like to keep the
On 08/23/2010 11:06 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
(intentionally breaking thread)
Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) said:
Maybe I should start a new thread since this isn't really a bug, but it is
a blocker -- we need to get some packaging guidelines out for systemd.
I think that the last
On Friday, August 20, 2010 10:46:43 pm Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote:
Hi all,,
Hi!
before two weeks, a discussion started in ambassadors mailing-list about a
work around to deliver the important notifications to the fedora desktop
(whatever the desktop is).
after some discussion, we started with
On Saturday, August 21, 2010 02:25:08 am Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
That would likely be a bad idea. Mandriva did something similar a few
years back, before I left, and it was pretty unpopular and often
confusing for
my desktop runs on software mirror raid below an lvm. not for
performance but for data recovery reasons. mdmonitor does mail
notification. will this be fixed? how about logwatch, it is really
useful to have to get an overview what happened on the system in a
neat summary. also handy for desktops
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Rudolf Kastl che...@gmail.com wrote:
my desktop runs on software mirror raid below an lvm. not for
performance but for data recovery reasons. mdmonitor does mail
notification. will this be fixed? how about logwatch, it is really
useful to have to get an
2010/8/24 Miroslav Lichvar mlich...@redhat.com:
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:06:32PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
SERVICE HANDLING
- Running 'chkconfig foo (null)|on|off' on a service managed by systemd
will return the correct code/perform an appropriate action.
Also, if chkconfig --add
Thanks, but I have following problem:
$ fedpkg co -B xterm
Cloning into bare repository /home/yarda/git-fedora/xterm/fedpkg.git...
remote: Counting objects: 657, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (333/333), done.
remote: Total 657 (delta 274), reused 657 (delta 274)
Receiving objects: 100%
On Friday, August 06, 2010 04:45:39 pm Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
Just an update:
we hava our own WebKit SIG mailing list [1]. Feel free to subscribe.
[1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit
Thanks
Jaroslav
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Software Engineer - Base
Compose started at Tue Aug 24 08:15:26 UTC 2010
Broken deps for x86_64
--
OpenSceneGraph-libs-2.8.3-2.fc14.i686 requires libpoppler.so.6
OpenSceneGraph-libs-2.8.3-2.fc14.x86_64 requires
libpoppler.so.6()(64bit)
On 08/23/2010 08:15 PM, Jon Masters wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 20:10 +0200, drago01 wrote:
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote:
pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
I know its been discussed in the past but there's been reasons not to
drop a default MTA but now
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote:
On 08/23/2010 08:15 PM, Jon Masters wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 20:10 +0200, drago01 wrote:
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote:
pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
I know its been discussed in
On 08/24/2010 12:47 PM, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote:
On 08/23/2010 08:15 PM, Jon Masters wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 20:10 +0200, drago01 wrote:
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote:
Hello,
it seems there are some issues with recent mass rebuilds for perl
5.12.0 in F14/rawhide.
Some packages were rebuilt against new perl and then were built again.
However koji exposes only the older build.
This is list of affected packages which I discovered during work on
FES ticket
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 23:06 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Hey Bill,
this is a very good initial list, this should make it very easy for QA
to whip up a test plan for systemd. Some comments below.
BOOTUP
- System boots successfully to GUI, when configured.
- System boots successfully to text
On 24/08/10 13:45, Adam Tkac wrote:
Hello,
it seems there are some issues with recent mass rebuilds for perl
5.12.0 in F14/rawhide.
Some packages were rebuilt against new perl and then were built again.
However koji exposes only the older build.
This is list of affected packages which I
Hello,
How I merge the latests changes from the remotes/origin/f13/master
on to my f13/user/steved/pnfs-13 remote branch?
Also, the kernel that is currently being built from my pnfs-13 branch
fails to install with the following error:
FATAL: Could not load
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 01:54:25PM +0100, Paul Howarth wrote:
On 24/08/10 13:45, Adam Tkac wrote:
Hello,
it seems there are some issues with recent mass rebuilds for perl
5.12.0 in F14/rawhide.
Some packages were rebuilt against new perl and then were built again.
However koji
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On 08/24/2010 08:55 AM, Steve Dickson wrote:
Hello,
How I merge the latests changes from the remotes/origin/f13/master
on to my f13/user/steved/pnfs-13 remote branch?
The easiest way would be to switch to the pnfs-13 branch and then do:
git
Am 24.08.10 14:55, schrieb Steve Dickson:
How I merge the latests changes from the remotes/origin/f13/master
on to my f13/user/steved/pnfs-13 remote branch?
I think git cherry-pick is the command whar you want to use.
With git cherry-pck you can apply the changes of a commit from an other
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.de wrote:
Am 24.08.10 14:55, schrieb Steve Dickson:
How I merge the latests changes from the remotes/origin/f13/master
on to my f13/user/steved/pnfs-13 remote branch?
I think git cherry-pick is the command whar you want to
On 08/24/2010 09:16 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
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On 08/24/2010 08:55 AM, Steve Dickson wrote:
Hello,
How I merge the latests changes from the remotes/origin/f13/master
on to my f13/user/steved/pnfs-13 remote branch?
The easiest way
On 08/24/2010 09:27 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.de
wrote:
Am 24.08.10 14:55, schrieb Steve Dickson:
How I merge the latests changes from the remotes/origin/f13/master
on to my f13/user/steved/pnfs-13 remote branch?
I
commit acf6c396c24366416725a0b0d1dc32c98b80a94b
Author: Adam Tkac at...@redhat.com
Date: Tue Aug 24 15:35:41 2010 +0200
Fix testsuite to run with the latest sqlite (bugs.debian.org/59).
Signed-off-by: Adam Tkac at...@redhat.com
For the past week or so I have been battling with a problem that I had
thought (after some chasing around) was a Thunderbird upstream
problem. The issue was that selecting Edit-Preferences- General and
allowing selection of a xxx.wav file to play for incoming mail did not
work.
It turned out that
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On 08/24/2010 09:37 AM, mike cloaked wrote:
For the past week or so I have been battling with a problem that I had
thought (after some chasing around) was a Thunderbird upstream
problem. The issue was that selecting Edit-Preferences- General and
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--- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2010-08-24
09:41:19 EDT ---
ocaml-lablgtk-2.14.0-6.fc14 has
Is it OK to use 'git rebase -i' to compress my mistakes together into
a single working Fedora git commit? (Provided I don't push things in
between or otherwise try to rewrite public history)
I'm a bit confused by whether 'fedpkg commit', 'fedpkg build', 'fedpkg
push' etc are doing magic that
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On 08/24/2010 08:45 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 23:06 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Hey Bill,
this is a very good initial list, this should make it very easy for QA
to whip up a test plan for systemd. Some comments below.
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comments should be made in the comments box of this bug.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=626765
Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed:
What|Removed |Added
Once upon a time, pbrobin...@gmail.com pbrobin...@gmail.com said:
Neither of those need to run a MTA locally to work, you just need to
point them to a mail server, even then they need to be configured to
send the mail to something other than root anyway.
They can't be configured that way; they
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 14:43 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Is it OK to use 'git rebase -i' to compress my mistakes together into
a single working Fedora git commit? (Provided I don't push things in
between or otherwise try to rewrite public history)
Yes.
I'm a bit confused by whether
Chris Adams wrote:
What do we gain by not having any MTA installed (other than a little bit
of disk space)? I understand that a little bit of disk space can add
up quick, but a local queueing MTA is a pretty standard part of a Unix
system.
Why are you complaining? If your package needs an
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 08:45 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 23:06 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
BOOTUP
- System boots successfully to GUI, when configured.
- System boots successfully to text mode, when configured.
- System properly handles being passed [1-5],
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 08:56:21AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
I'm still of the opinion that there should be _something_ at the
de-facto standard location of /usr/sbin/sendmail that can queue messages
for later delivery. I don't care whether it is actually sendmail or
not. Preferably, it
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 10:00 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 08:45 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 23:06 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
BOOTUP
- System boots successfully to GUI, when configured.
- System boots successfully to text mode, when
On 08/24/2010 02:58 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Chris Adams wrote:
What do we gain by not having any MTA installed (other than a little bit
of disk space)? I understand that a little bit of disk space can add
up quick, but a local queueing MTA is a pretty standard part of a Unix
system.
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 08:58:50AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Why are you complaining? If your package needs an MTA - put in a Requires!
If we follow the general state of things: if a package might need
something, toss it in as a requires!, this will totally defeat the purpose
of the
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:16 PM, David Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com wrote:
A suggested fix (caveat: not tested): ensure that the python-lxml.spec
has a
BuildRequires: Cython = 0.12
and delete the .c file in the %prep, to ensure that Cython regenerates
it during the build.
Does this fix it?
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:00:55AM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
I can't remember interactive boot ever working.
It does in RHEL 5. It will need to be working for RHEL 7.
--
Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org
Senior Systems Architect -- Instructional Research Computing Services
Harvard School of
Andrew Haley wrote:
Not everything that runs on Fedora is a Fedora package: people run
their own programs, too. Some things, like the existence of /bin/ls
or being able to send mail by piping the message to either /bin/mail
or/usr/{sbin,lib}/sendmail are basic features of UNIX.
No one is
Once upon a time, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com said:
Chris Adams wrote:
What do we gain by not having any MTA installed (other than a little bit
of disk space)? I understand that a little bit of disk space can add
up quick, but a local queueing MTA is a pretty standard part of a
Matthew Miller wrote:
If we follow the general state of things: if a package might need
something, toss it in as a requires!, this will totally defeat the purpose
of the comps change, since it will get pulled in by something important at
some point. Rsyslog, for example, can send output via
On 24/08/10 15:13, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Michael Cronenworthm...@cchtml.com said:
Chris Adams wrote:
What do we gain by not having any MTA installed (other than a little bit
of disk space)? I understand that a little bit of disk space can add
up quick, but a local queueing
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
I'm not a Thunderbird maintainer, so I don't know how feasible this is,
but perhaps we could create a subpackage like
'thunderbird-sound-support' that has the appropriate dependencies on it.
Then at least someone
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 10:09 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 08:58:50AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Why are you complaining? If your package needs an MTA - put in a Requires!
If we follow the general state of things: if a package might need
something, toss it in as
Paul Howarth wrote:
I use at on a regular basis, to schedule large downloads and uploads
when my ADSL bandwidth becomes unmetered after midnight.
And I like getting the resulting email in the morning showing that all
went well, or not as the case may be.
No one will prevent you from doing
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
Reading this - I'm not sure all Fedora notifications should go through system
notification system. Why? I understand it for urgent/priority notification
like
Close your desktop, nuclear war out there (or just a security update
combined
with some steps how to fix
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 10:19 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
My previous objection was based on the precedent it sets. I don't want a
Desktop distribution in Fedora. I want a server-usable distribution.
Sure, it's just a dep and one can go install an MTA. But today it's
killing the MTA, tomorrow
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 04:32:03PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
So, I'm honestly asking: what are the odds that these few things are the
only improvements that cause a disruptive change to user interaction? I
don't think it's unreasonable to wonder if there are other changes which
fit
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 10:36 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 10:19 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
My previous objection was based on the precedent it sets. I don't want a
Desktop distribution in Fedora. I want a server-usable distribution.
Sure, it's just a dep and one
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 08:56:21AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
They can't be configured that way; they don't implement SMTP. It is a
de-facto standard for Unix programs to send mail by piping the message
to either /bin/mail or /usr/{sbin,lib}/sendmail. That has the advantage
of queueing for
Matthew Garrett wrote:
The long term fix would arguably be to provide a stub /usr/sbin/sendmail
that ties into a more generic event reporting interface, which in turn
could be configured to send mail elsewhere but would default to popping
up some sort of desktop notification.
Already works
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Steve Dickson wrote:
Also, the kernel that is currently being built from my pnfs-13 branch
fails to install with the following error:
FATAL: Could not load
/lib/modules/2.6.34.5-43.pnfs_all_2.6.35_2010_08_19.fc13.x86_64-pnfs/modules.dep:
No such file or directory
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 03:04:43PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
As to not keep moving the goal posts for Lennart, I believe that some
group (perhaps FESCo) should come up with a set of do or die
functionality for systemd, that can be tested for at the test day. That
way the goals are clearly
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:43:36PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
There's certainly a set of people who want an MTA for this - in a server
environment it's obviously far more straightforward to get mailed on
failure, and that's something that you'll probably configure when
This isn't
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:18:27AM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
File /etc/inittab should keep working at the same level it is now.
Now it only selects default runlevel.
How about:
- If /etc/inittab exists and contains an initdefault line, the default
target will be set accordingly.
- any
On 08/24/2010 03:37 PM, Jon Masters wrote:
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 10:36 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 10:19 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
My previous objection was based on the precedent it sets. I don't want a
Desktop distribution in Fedora. I want a server-usable
The Fedora 14 Laughlin Alpha release is available! This release offers a
preview of some of the best free and open source technology currently under
development. Catch a glimpse of the future:
http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease
== What is the Alpha release? ==
The Alpha release contains
Andrew Haley wrote:
I think there's a much more fundamental question here, which is
whether a default Fedora installation is intended to be a real
UNIX-like system or just the dependencies for GNOME.
I was going to reply to Chris, but I'll reply here.
What benefit do I, or anyone else,
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 08:45:33AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
GENERAL SANITY
- Booting a system shall achieve a similar result as booting in upstart:
-- The same set of services will be started.
I don't think this is a requirement on systemd, really. If we make
changes to the default
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 10:10 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Andrew Haley wrote:
I think there's a much more fundamental question here, which is
whether a default Fedora installation is intended to be a real
UNIX-like system or just the dependencies for GNOME.
I was going to reply to
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 09:46:26AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Matthew Garrett wrote:
The long term fix would arguably be to provide a stub /usr/sbin/sendmail
that ties into a more generic event reporting interface, which in turn
could be configured to send mail elsewhere but would
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:53:13AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:43:36PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
There's certainly a set of people who want an MTA for this - in a server
environment it's obviously far more straightforward to get mailed on
failure, and
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 09:10 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:16 PM, David Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com wrote:
A suggested fix (caveat: not tested): ensure that the python-lxml.spec
has a
BuildRequires: Cython = 0.12
and delete the .c file in the %prep, to ensure
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:06:32PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
RUNTIME TOOLS
- telinit [0123456] does the proper thing.
It currently doesn't, by the way. But there's been upstream fixes which
aren't yet in rawhide, so I'll retest when that's available.
- the 'runlevel' command displays
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule has broken dependencies in the F-14 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-4.fc13.noarch requires
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1)
On i386:
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-4.fc13.noarch requires
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1)
Please resolve this as soon as
Once upon a time, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com said:
What benefit do I, or anyone else, receive by shipping a 100% Unix-clone
environment by default? With PCs evolving every 5-10 years, will
Unix-like be necessary for much longer? Are we making a Fedora for
people to use or for
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:06:32PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
SERVICE HANDLING
- Running 'chkconfig foo (null)|on|off' on a service managed by systemd
will return the correct code/perform an appropriate action.
- Running 'service foo start|stop|...' on a service managed by systemd
will
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Bodhi updates can have multiple packages associated with a single update
as long as they are on different branches. Why this restriction?
At least in the case of something like a security update, I would think
that it would be beneficial to be able
2010/8/24 Garrett Holmstrom gho...@fedoraproject.org
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
Reading this - I'm not sure all Fedora notifications should go through
system
notification system. Why? I understand it for urgent/priority
notification like
Close your desktop, nuclear war out there (or just a
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:06:32PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
PACKAGING
- The syntax of systemd units shall be frozen for the release (all future
releases? Some set number of releases?)
ADMIN INTERFACE
- The files and paths used by systemd shall be frozen for future releases.
- The
As I was thinking about Bug 626840, I noticed something. With the current
runlevel system, it's easy to know what your options are. The systemd FAQ
helpfully explains that systemctl isolate graphical.target is the
replacement, and that systemctl list-units --type=target will show me the
various
Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote:
On 08/24/2010 02:58 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Chris Adams wrote:
What do we gain by not having any MTA installed (other than a little bit
of disk space)? I understand that a little bit of disk space can add
up quick, but a local queueing MTA is a
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:43:36PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
The problem with delivering this to a user's mailbox via an MTA is that
in the typical case it doesn't result in the user noticing anything
until they've logged in as root and find out that the you have new
mail message
Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) said:
I'm not a Thunderbird maintainer, so I don't know how feasible this is,
but perhaps we could create a subpackage like
'thunderbird-sound-support' that has the appropriate dependencies on it.
Then at least someone doing a yum search on thunderbird
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:43:36PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
The problem with delivering this to a user's mailbox via an MTA is that
in the typical case it doesn't result in the user noticing anything
until they've
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 10:09 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 08:58:50AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Why are you complaining? If your package needs an MTA - put in a Requires!
If we follow
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 08:58:50AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Why are you complaining? If your package needs an MTA - put in a Requires!
If we follow the general state of things: if a package might need
something,
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 15:52 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
It's just risk management. I think we'd be better off acknowledging there
are unknown unknowns and try to mitigate them. One way we could have done
that this time around was making it an optional feature (as Matt was
mentioning in a
Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 15:52 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
It's just risk management. I think we'd be better off acknowledging there
are unknown unknowns and try to mitigate them. One way we could have done
that this time around was making it an optional feature (as Matt
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On 8/24/10 9:45 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) said:
Bodhi updates can have multiple packages associated with a single update
as long as they are on different branches. Why this restriction?
At least in the
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 04:42:17PM +, Branched Report wrote:
1:libguestfs-1.5.2-4.fc14.i686 requires /lib/libxtables.so.4
This seems to be a warning about an older version than what's
currently in F14:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=190165
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Eric Sandeen wrote:
Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 15:52 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
It's just risk management. I think we'd be better off acknowledging there
are unknown unknowns and try to mitigate them. One way we could have done
that this time
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 11:15 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 08:45:33AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
GENERAL SANITY
- Booting a system shall achieve a similar result as booting in upstart:
-- The same set of services will be started.
I don't think this is a
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 11:15 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 08:45:33AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
GENERAL SANITY
- Booting a system shall achieve a similar result as booting in upstart:
-- The same set of services
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 12:02 -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:
Well, ironically enough, Lennart's last big revolution illustrates the
problem with that. PulseAudio - previously PolypAudio, remember - was
'opt-in' for several releases; it was packaged in Fedora and many other
major distributions,
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 12:10 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
People like you and me would opt-in. (well I would on some hosts) because
we know what we're doing. Expert eyes get a look at it before it's forced
onto our users, who are already leaving in leaps and bounds.
Again, Pulse/PolypAudio
Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) said:
Bodhi updates can have multiple packages associated with a single update
as long as they are on different branches. Why this restriction?
At least in the case of something like a security update, I would think
that it would be beneficial to be
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Summary: [abrt] crash in perl-Padre-0.32-2.fc12: wxStyledTextCtrl::SendMsg:
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Matthew Miller (mat...@mattdm.org) said:
How about:
- If /etc/inittab exists and contains an initdefault line, the default
target will be set accordingly.
- any other non-comment, non-blank lines in /etc/inittab will be logged as
warnings.
This leaves a migration path (ditch the
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 23:06 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
This, however, is just packaging guidelines. From readng the thread, there
are many things that I think people would like covered with systemd before
they would feel comfortable with it. So, I'm going to attempt to quantify
what would
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.orgwrote:
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 11:54 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
Whatever we do please make it an option NOT to have any window splat
on the screen anywhere - let it stay in the system tray and not
interfere with my
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Steve Dickson wrote:
On 08/24/2010 10:46 AM, M A Young wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Steve Dickson wrote:
Also, the kernel that is currently being built from my pnfs-13 branch
fails to install with the following error:
FATAL: Could not load
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 12:10 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
People like you and me would opt-in. (well I would on some hosts) because
we know what we're doing. Expert eyes get a look at it before it's forced
onto our users, who are already leaving
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:19:38 -0700
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 12:10 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
People like you and me would opt-in. (well I would on some hosts)
because we know what we're doing. Expert eyes get a look at it
before it's forced onto
On Tue, 24.08.10 09:29, Michael Schwendt (mschwe...@gmail.com) wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:17:21 -0400, Matthew wrote:
Was there a conversation other than this FESCO meeting?
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-06-15/fesco.2010-06-15-19.35.log.html#l-446
There, I
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