Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/11/25 Tomas Mraz tm...@redhat.com: On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 21:56 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: That's the point of the .path unit. i.e. you can list dirs to watch. If a user then drop a file into one of those dirs cron gets automatically started. Basically, in your .path unit you'd

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:55:38 +0100, Kevin wrote: Mike Fedyk wrote: Install package from updates-testing, then +1 to karma after it works for you with your tests and normal workload. The average user won't even KNOW there's an update available in updates- testing before it's too late

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 09:31 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: 2010/11/25 Tomas Mraz tm...@redhat.com: On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 21:56 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: That's the point of the .path unit. i.e. you can list dirs to watch. If a user then drop a file into one of those dirs cron gets

Re: F13 update issue..

2010-11-25 Thread Rex Dieter
Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:25:15 -0700, Nathanael wrote: Hello, My aunt has F13 installed.. I got the following from her. Is this a known bug ?? I can't make heads or tails of the error message or what to tell her to do to resolve it. ERROR with rpm_check_debug

Re: F13 update issue..

2010-11-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:12:17 -0600, Rex wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:25:15 -0700, Nathanael wrote: Hello, My aunt has F13 installed.. I got the following from her. Is this a known bug ?? I can't make heads or tails of the error message or what to tell her to do to resolve it.

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-25 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
04.11.2010 06:10, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 22:12 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 21:02 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Maybe it is time to discuss

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-25 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 01:18:54AM -0500, Genes MailLists wrote: On 11/25/2010 01:13 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: http://oswatershed.org/ Hmm some interesting data there and some looks wrong to me: I see openssh at 5.5p1 not 5.0p1. but some like apache ours is lagging by quite a bit

libtool mismatch while building

2010-11-25 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hello, How does one handle this error with libtool mismatches? I've run autoreconf, and aclocal autoconf automake, but it persists. (I don't know much about this stuff) [ankurgu...@070905042 xorg-input-wizardpen-0.8.0]$ make make all-recursive make[1]: Entering directory

Re: libtool mismatch while building

2010-11-25 Thread Andreas Schwab
Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com writes: Hello, How does one handle this error with libtool mismatches? I've run autoreconf, and aclocal autoconf automake, but it persists. (I don't know much about this stuff) Run autoreconf -fi. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, sch...@redhat.com GPG Key

Introducing wicked

2010-11-25 Thread Olaf Kirch
Presenting wicked network configuration === This is the first public release of wicked, an experimental framework for network configuration. You may ask, don't we have enough of those already? Don't we have NetworkManager, connman, netcf, and a few more? The

Re: F13 update issue..

2010-11-25 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 11/25/2010 02:15 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:12:17 -0600, Rex wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:25:15 -0700, Nathanael wrote: Hello, My aunt has F13 installed.. I got the following from her. Is this a known bug ?? I can't make heads or tails of the error message or

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 09:31 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: 2010/11/25 Tomas Mraz tm...@redhat.com: On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 21:56 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: That's the point of the .path unit. i.e. you can list dirs to watch. If a user then drop a file into one of those dirs cron gets

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 25 listopada 2010 17:33 użytkownik Tomas Mraz tm...@redhat.com napisał: On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 09:31 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Actually it's true, but in the near future all standard cron jobs might be runned by systemd http://0pointer.de/public/systemd-man/systemd.timer.html

Re: libtool mismatch while building

2010-11-25 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 16:02 +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote: Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com writes: Hello, How does one handle this error with libtool mismatches? I've run autoreconf, and aclocal autoconf automake, but it persists. (I don't know much about this stuff) Run

Re: libtool mismatch while building

2010-11-25 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 16:02 +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote: Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com writes: Hello, How does one handle this error with libtool mismatches? I've run autoreconf, and aclocal autoconf automake, but it persists. (I don't know much about this stuff) Run

Re: libtool mismatch while building

2010-11-25 Thread Martin Gieseking
Am 25.11.2010 18:16, schrieb Ankur Sinha: This is the error I receive while building the package (which was corrected by using autoreconf -fi). How should I change my spec[1] to work around the error please? libtool: You should recreate aclocal.m4 with macros from libtool 2.2.6

Re: F13 update issue..

2010-11-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:31:18 +0100, Marcela wrote: On 11/25/2010 02:15 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:12:17 -0600, Rex wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:25:15 -0700, Nathanael wrote: Hello, My aunt has F13 installed.. I got the following from her. Is this a

Re: New gtk-vnc slower?n

2010-11-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Seems unlikely that it's gtk-vnc at fault here, but anyhow you should post the question the developer mailing list here: http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-vnc-list Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-df lists disk usage of guests

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 05:24:37PM +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: You may ask, don't we have enough of those already? Don't we have NetworkManager, connman, netcf, and a few more? Indeed ... You don't explain how it's better than netcf. I notice a lot of hand-written C config file parsing in your

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-25 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 20:29:30 + Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 05:24:37PM +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: You may ask, don't we have enough of those already? Don't we have NetworkManager, connman, netcf, and a few more? Indeed ... You don't explain how

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-25 Thread nodata
On 25/11/10 17:24, Olaf Kirch wrote: Presenting wicked network configuration === This is the first public release of wicked, an experimental framework for network configuration. You may ask, don't we have enough of those already? Don't we have

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-25 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
26.11.2010 00:43, Brendan Jones пишет: On 11/25/2010 11:38 PM, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: I think abrt is mostly useful tool, but it should be more interactive to our users. No, most problem from it (at my experience and by other answers there) because we got many reports dead

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-25 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 17:24 +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: Presenting wicked network configuration === This is the first public release of wicked, an experimental framework for network configuration. You may ask, don't we have enough of those already? Don't

File CGI-Application-Plugin-Authentication-0.19.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by eseyman

2010-11-25 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-CGI-Application-Plugin-Authentication: 778f9e3c5ec4ba7702cc932d37bf9230 CGI-Application-Plugin-Authentication-0.19.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-25 Thread Richard Zidlicky
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:17:48PM +0100, nodata wrote: On 25/11/10 17:24, Olaf Kirch wrote: Presenting wicked network configuration === This is the first public release of wicked, an experimental framework for network configuration. You may

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-25 Thread Brendan Jones
On 11/26/2010 08:24 AM, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: Furthermore, step to reproduce also is very important, and may be we should enforce users fill it? For example put it in separate required field and check it is not empty (or may be some minimal heuristic against fill it like

[perl-CGI-Application-Plugin-Authentication] Update to 0.19

2010-11-25 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
commit 0cba28c61702b6ad49b55ae931744fac1998711c Author: Emmanuel Seyman emmanuel.sey...@club-internet.fr Date: Fri Nov 26 00:27:21 2010 +0100 Update to 0.19 .gitignore |1 + perl-CGI-Application-Plugin-Authentication.spec |6 +- sources

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 25.11.10 08:39, Tomas Mraz (tm...@redhat.com) wrote: That's the point of the .path unit. i.e. you can list dirs to watch. If a user then drop a file into one of those dirs cron gets automatically started. Basically, in your .path unit you'd write something like this:

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 25.11.10 17:33, Tomas Mraz (tm...@redhat.com) wrote: Actually it's true, but in the near future all standard cron jobs might be runned by systemd http://0pointer.de/public/systemd-man/systemd.timer.html It's not 100 % cron replacement now, but who knows what the future holds

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Andrew Clayton
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 01:15:04 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: The only contents of /etc/crontab and /etc/cron.d is the lines to handle /etc/cron.daily and friends. As mentioned we can easily run On RHEL/CentOS (and it's likely only a matter of time before systemd fillers through to them)

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Genes MailLists
Although I can't be the only one who puts various cron jobs under /etc/cron.d that get run at various times. Andrew Almost every administrative cron here is in a cron.d crontab file .. we need control over exactly what time certain things happen. So please keep the functionality. If

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Lennart Poettering píše v Pá 26. 11. 2010 v 01:27 +0100: And also, cron does a couple of really nasty things. For example it wakes up in regular intervals to check if a job is ready to run. It does so to deal with wallclock time changes/suspends. In systemd we are working on a different way to

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Lennart Poettering píše v Pá 26. 11. 2010 v 01:27 +0100: On Thu, 25.11.10 17:33, Tomas Mraz (tm...@redhat.com) wrote: And also, cron does a couple of really nasty things. For example it wakes up in regular intervals to check if a job is ready to run. It does so to deal with wallclock time

Re: New gtk-vnc slower?

2010-11-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 22:05 -0700, Jerry James wrote: I have a collection of virtual machines that I use to test cross-platform compatibility of some code I'm developing. Today, the virtual machine I was working on kept getting slower and slower whenever a window refresh was needed. It got

[Bug 657015] perl-Sub-WrapPackages should not provide local override perl(lib)

2010-11-25 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=657015 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 654301] False-positive related to XS code - please update to 0.11 or later

2010-11-25 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=654301 --- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2010-11-25 20:09:03 EST --- perl-Test-LeakTrace-0.13-1.fc14

[Bug 654301] False-positive related to XS code - please update to 0.11 or later

2010-11-25 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=654301 --- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2010-11-25 20:17:00 EST --- perl-Test-LeakTrace-0.13-1.fc13

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 26.11.10 02:07, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: Lennart Poettering píše v Pá 26. 11. 2010 v 01:27 +0100: On Thu, 25.11.10 17:33, Tomas Mraz (tm...@redhat.com) wrote: And also, cron does a couple of really nasty things. For example it wakes up in regular intervals to check if

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 25.11.10 19:57, Genes MailLists (li...@sapience.com) wrote: Although I can't be the only one who puts various cron jobs under /etc/cron.d that get run at various times. Andrew Almost every administrative cron here is in a cron.d crontab file .. we need control over

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/25/2010 09:08 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 25.11.10 19:57, Genes MailLists (li...@sapience.com) wrote: keep the functionality. Hey, as I made explcitily clear I have no plans of taking away anything from you. No need to be defensive... Actually that was after I posted but ok

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/25/2010 09:19 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 11/25/2010 09:08 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 25.11.10 19:57, Genes MailLists (li...@sapience.com) wrote: keep the functionality. Hey, as I made explcitily clear I have no plans of taking away anything from you. No need to be

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Lennart Poettering píše v Pá 26. 11. 2010 v 03:05 +0100: On Fri, 26.11.10 02:07, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: Lennart Poettering píše v Pá 26. 11. 2010 v 01:27 +0100: On Thu, 25.11.10 17:33, Tomas Mraz (tm...@redhat.com) wrote: And also, cron does a couple of really nasty things.

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de said: Well, I actually believe we should design an OS here, not just a set of independent tools. And that means I think closer integration is good and only has benefits. But this is a Unix-like OS, where each tool does one (or few)

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/25/2010 11:01 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de said: Well, I actually believe we should design an OS here, not just a set of independent tools. And that means I think closer integration is good and only has benefits. But this is a

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 11/26/2010 01:27 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 25.11.10 17:33, Tomas Mraz (tm...@redhat.com) wrote: Actually it's true, but in the near future all standard cron jobs might be runned by systemd http://0pointer.de/public/systemd-man/systemd.timer.html It's not 100 % cron

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 07:42 +0100, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: I'm just curious, how many programmes would stay in Fedora after you finish systemd ;-) /sarcasm. and do we run systemd in emacs, or emacs from systemd?! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk:

[Bug 657153] Circular Dependency between perl-Readonly and perl-Readonly-XS

2010-11-25 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=657153 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 657153] Circular Dependency between perl-Readonly and perl-Readonly-XS

2010-11-25 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=657153 --- Comment #2 from Andrew McNaughton amcnaugh...@squiz.net 2010-11-25 05:05:16 EST --- (In reply to comment #1) Whilst it's

[Bug 657153] Circular Dependency between perl-Readonly and perl-Readonly-XS

2010-11-25 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=657153 --- Comment #3 from Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org 2010-11-25 05:33:56 EST --- You need to install them in the same rpm