Re: Increase grub timeout

2010-05-15 Thread Chris Jones
I was under the impression that a timeout is intentional/used only if another operating system is detected upon installation. ie. Windows. If no other operating system is detected, then there's no point having a timeout. -- Chris Jones Photographic Imaging Professional and Graphic Designer ABN:

Re: Increase grub timeout

2010-05-15 Thread Conrad Meyer
On Friday 14 May 2010 11:05:13 pm Chris Jones wrote: I was under the impression that a timeout is intentional/used only if another operating system is detected upon installation. ie. Windows. If no other operating system is detected, then there's no point having a timeout. In that case, why

Re: Increase grub timeout

2010-05-15 Thread goineasy9
There are many instances in the forums, where, adding a cheat code to the kernel line in grub will solve a problem, but, if one doesn't have access to grub at boot-up, the solution is made more difficult. Even the act of booting to init 3 to make a diagnosis by looking at the logs requires a

Re: Increase grub timeout

2010-05-15 Thread Alexander Boström
My home server was running Fedora 10 and I tried to preupgrade it to F12, however the F12 kernel wouldn't work at all on this machine (it oopsed before even mounting the root) and no matter how frantically I pressed the arrow keys during boot I could never get into the GRUB menu and stop it from

Re: Increase grub timeout

2010-05-15 Thread Richard Zidlicky
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 09:58:27AM +0200, Alexander Boström wrote: Long story short: There are situations where a grub menu is vital, like until you've successfully booted a new kernel. of course, and I do not think it is so hard to think of a sensible behaviour. After each (semi)automatic

Re: Fedora 13 Release Candidate Phase

2010-05-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 14 May 2010 20:27:51 -0700, Jesse wrote: What is releng supposed to do here though? It's a hard problem related to tools *and* people. The longer it takes to push packages into a repo, the longer the window that creates the race condition. It could be that the push has completed 98% of

Re: Increase grub timeout

2010-05-15 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 11:01 +0200, Richard Zidlicky wrote: On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 09:58:27AM +0200, Alexander Boström wrote: Long story short: There are situations where a grub menu is vital, like until you've successfully booted a new kernel. of course, and I do not think it is so hard

Re: Increase grub timeout

2010-05-15 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 12:19 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 11:01 +0200, Richard Zidlicky wrote: On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 09:58:27AM +0200, Alexander Boström wrote: Long story short: There are situations where a grub menu is vital, like until you've successfully booted

Re: Increase grub timeout

2010-05-15 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 11:01 +0200, Richard Zidlicky wrote: of course, and I do not think it is so hard to think of a sensible behaviour. After each (semi)automatic change to grub/kernel conf as well as for the very first boot there should be a timeout as well as visible menu. Once the

Testing of updates

2010-05-15 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 11:06 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: Same applies to positive karma. Is the +1 the result of substantial testing or just a +1 to get the new adventurous stuff, which makes Fedora less boring? Yes, a standard for +1 karma would be helpful. But even before that, we need a

Re: Increase grub timeout

2010-05-15 Thread Richard Zidlicky
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 05:24:26AM -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 11:01 +0200, Richard Zidlicky wrote: More elaborate solution, there could be two config values - quicktimeout and safetimout. After kernel and config changes timeout would be changed to safetimout and

Re: Increase grub timeout

2010-05-15 Thread Felix Miata
openSUSE's Grub has defaulted to 8 seconds as long as openSUSE has existed, same as SuSE before it as far back as I ever used it. The 8 is in a select list in the installer's Grub configuration section, so it's easy to change prior to first boot. I always change it to 12-15, depending on how many

Re: Fedora 13 Release Candidate Phase

2010-05-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 20:27 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: What is releng supposed to do here though? We can't be experts in every package. How are we to know that the negative karma is really appropriately negative, or bad negative, or just misfiled or confused users? That's what the

Re: Increase grub timeout

2010-05-15 Thread goineasy9
That's not entirely true. I have read many posts where hitting escape had no effect on stopping boot. I, myself have one motherboard that functions (or doesn't function) in the same way. -Original Message- From: Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com To: Development discussions related

Review request: nodebrain - a declarative rule-based language for state and event monitoring

2010-05-15 Thread John Ellson
Requesting review of a new package: nodebrain https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=592504 Description: NodeBrain is an interpreter of a declarative rule-based language designed for construction of state and event monitoring applications. It interacts with other monitoring

Re: Harmless KDE feature upgrades - yeah right

2010-05-15 Thread Ryan Rix
On Sat 15 May 2010 1:16:26 pm Valent Turkovic wrote: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: On Friday 05 March 2010 18:37:06 Matthew Woehlke wrote: Petrus de Calguarium wrote: As I had expected, breaking up the monolithic packages into individual

rpms/perl-Class-C3/devel perl-Class-C3.spec,1.15,1.16

2010-05-15 Thread Chris Weyl
Author: cweyl Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Class-C3/devel In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv20324 Modified Files: perl-Class-C3.spec Log Message: * Sat May 15 2010 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 0.22-3 - install c3.pm as well; drop opt/ from doc -

rpms/perl-Class-C3/devel perl-Class-C3.spec,1.16,1.17

2010-05-15 Thread Chris Weyl
Author: cweyl Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Class-C3/devel In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv26318 Modified Files: perl-Class-C3.spec Log Message: * Sat May 15 2010 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 0.22-4 - bump Index: perl-Class-C3.spec

rpms/perl-FCGI/F-13 import.log, NONE, 1.1 perl-FCGI.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2010-05-15 Thread Chris Weyl
Author: cweyl Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-FCGI/F-13 In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv16652/F-13 Modified Files: .cvsignore sources Added Files: import.log perl-FCGI.spec Log Message: initial import --- NEW FILE import.log ---

rpms/perl-FCGI/F-12 import.log, NONE, 1.1 perl-FCGI.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2010-05-15 Thread Chris Weyl
Author: cweyl Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-FCGI/F-12 In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv16845/F-12 Modified Files: .cvsignore sources Added Files: import.log perl-FCGI.spec Log Message: initial import --- NEW FILE import.log ---

rpms/perl-FCGI/F-13 perl-FCGI.spec,1.1,1.2

2010-05-15 Thread Chris Weyl
Author: cweyl Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-FCGI/F-13 In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv1552 Modified Files: perl-FCGI.spec Log Message: * Sat May 15 2010 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 1:0.71-3 - and fix our tests subpackage included files Index:

rpms/perl-FCGI/devel perl-FCGI.spec,1.1,1.2

2010-05-15 Thread Chris Weyl
Author: cweyl Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-FCGI/devel In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv1816 Modified Files: perl-FCGI.spec Log Message: * Sat May 15 2010 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 1:0.71-3 - and fix our tests subpackage included files Index:

rpms/perl-Class-MOP/devel perl-Class-MOP.spec,1.50,1.51

2010-05-15 Thread Chris Weyl
Author: cweyl Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Class-MOP/devel In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv2609 Modified Files: perl-Class-MOP.spec Log Message: * Sat May 15 2010 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 1.01-2 - update our -tests (should all pass when installed now) -

-tests subpackage, validation testing proof-of-concept

2010-05-15 Thread Chris Weyl
I spent a little time tonight and put together a proof-of-concept script... You give it a module name, it figures out where its tests should live on the filesystem and goes and runs them. Pass it --recursive, and it starts looking at META.yml's from the CPAN and runs the test suite for the