Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > So to sum it up, the fastest solution I can provide for you is to blacklist > your packages and/or ask for at least some text in steps to reproduce. > That would be an excellent start. Thank you for spending your time on this. Orcan -- deve

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 11:58:21PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 11/04/2010 10:22 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > 2- ABRT should keep track of unresponsive users. If a user has an > > outstanding "needinfo?" flag for the bugs sent through ABRT, he > > shouldn't be able to send a new bug

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-04 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Considering that it was started by a Red Hat employee, I would say there > has already been some involvement a cursory look at who has private branches of it on git.freedesktop.org is also good indication as to where the involvement has been

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/05/2010 06:41 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > Interesting move: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551 > > Has anyone looked into bringing Wayland to Fedora? If not this might be the > right time getting involved in the discussion. > > http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ Considering th

Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-04 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
Interesting move: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551 Has anyone looked into bringing Wayland to Fedora? If not this might be the right time getting involved in the discussion. http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ Regards, Dennis -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-10-26) NEW TIME!

2010-11-04 Thread Karel Zak
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:14:08AM +0300, Pekka Pietikainen wrote: > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:44:52PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > This feature is now approved and I see bugs get filed.  The documentation > > and > > guidelines are very incomplete.  How does one figure out which file > > cap

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/04/2010 10:22 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > 2- ABRT should keep track of unresponsive users. If a user has an > outstanding "needinfo?" flag for the bugs sent through ABRT, he > shouldn't be able to send a new bug report through ABRT for my > packages. > Since this has turned into general pony

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 11:57:58 +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Orcan Ogetbil [04/11/2010 09:35] : >> >> The extreme inefficiency comes from the bugs that I can't reproduce, >> the upstream can't reproduce, and the user isn't responding. And this >> happens *a lot*. Most of the time, they don't eve

Fwd: Orphaning packages

2010-11-04 Thread Mat Booth
I'm sorry you are unable to continue maintaining these packages, Victor. I'm forwarding this to the Java list. I use cobertura here, so I've taken ownership of that one already. -- Forwarded message -- From: Victor G. Vasilyev Date: 28 October 2010 13:08 Subject: Orphaning packa

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 11/04/2010 11:22 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: >> On 11/04/2010 10:49 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: 2010/11/4 Orcan Ogetbil : > Maybe it is time to discuss the usefulness of ABRT to F

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/04/2010 07:47 PM, Matt McCutchen wrote: > If someone else cares and retests, they ideally > would be able to reopen it, but Bugzilla currently doesn't allow that Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong but as I recall we changed that deliberately. ( should be a discussion about this in this li

[389-devel] One Way AD Sync

2010-11-04 Thread Nathan Kinder
Please review these design notes for implementing one way AD sync. In particular, I'm concerned about the possible inconsistencies that can arise from directly modifying a synced entry on the DS side. Does using access control seem sufficient for avoiding these inconsistencies? If these notes

Re: Marking zapped bugs

2010-11-04 Thread Zing
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:10:17 -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote: > On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 09:38 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >> The practical point is that F12 >> is about to go EOL which means the bug must be closed... > > Why? Obviously it needs to be clear that nothing further should be > expected f

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > On 11/04/2010 10:49 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: >>> 2010/11/4 Orcan Ogetbil : Maybe it is time to discuss the usefulness of ABRT to Fedora. I think that it is a great idea for com

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 11/04/2010 10:49 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: >> 2010/11/4 Orcan Ogetbil : >>> Maybe it is time to discuss the usefulness of ABRT to Fedora. I think >>> that it is a great idea for commercial products such as RHEL, but it >>> obviously did not

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > 2010/11/4 Orcan Ogetbil : >> Maybe it is time to discuss the usefulness of ABRT to Fedora. I think >> that it is a great idea for commercial products such as RHEL, but it >> obviously did not fit Fedora as is. > > No need to discuss - it's rea

[perl-Mojolicious] - Latest upstream release. http://search.cpan.org/src/KRAIH/Mojolicious-0.999935/Changes

2010-11-04 Thread Yanko Kaneti
commit 7e696e38ff8e4214fb9e082c45dc3a217c75fa6b Author: Yanko Kaneti Date: Thu Nov 4 23:29:12 2010 +0200 - Latest upstream release. http://search.cpan.org/src/KRAIH/Mojolicious-0.35/Changes .gitignore|1 + perl-Mojolicious.spec | 16 +++- sources

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 11/04/2010 03:22 PM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Przemek Klosowski [04/11/2010 21:51] : >> >> (why do I need to know about new CC:s on the bug list) > > FWIW, this can be configured: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email > > Emmanuel > But probably should be configured not to sen

File Mojolicious-0.999935.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by yaneti

2010-11-04 Thread Yanko Kaneti
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Mojolicious: 7b0ddd25aca34032b93c577f1533ba75 Mojolicious-0.35.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/m

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Przemek Klosowski [04/11/2010 21:51] : > > (why do I need to know about new CC:s on the bug list) FWIW, this can be configured: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Emmanuel -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/dev

[Bug 249079] Please build latest amavisd-new for EPEL 4 and 5

2010-11-04 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=249079 Robert Scheck changed: What|Removed |Added -

Marking zapped bugs

2010-11-04 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 09:38 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > The practical point is that F12 > is about to go EOL which means the bug must be closed... Why? Obviously it needs to be clear that nothing further should be expected from the maintainer unless/until the version is bumped. But the proje

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 19:44 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > From a practical point of view, as a bug reporter, when I get mass > notifications to update scores of bugs that were opened years ago, and > that the people owning the component never bothered to respond on (even > to confirm they were al

Re: [libxml2] Release of libxml2-2.7.8

2010-11-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 17:41:34 + (UTC), Daniel wrote: > Release of libxml2-2.7.8 > > libxml2.spec | 10 -- Seems to break the koji build root due to ABI incompatibility. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread David Malcolm
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 17:51 +, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: > On 07:41 Thu 04 Nov , Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > snip... > > > > As a maintainer, abrt to me primarily means "wading through wakes of > > hardly readable emails", mostly to scan them for useful information. I > > many cases I e

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 11/04/2010 01:05 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > My question would be 'why'? There seems to be an assumption that an open > bug report you can't fix is a serious problem; of course in a sense it > is, but then, it's not as if, if we remove or otherwise change abrt, > software is going to magically

Re: Default partitioning

2010-11-04 Thread David Cantrell
On Sat, 30 Oct 2010, Matt McCutchen wrote: > On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 14:03 -0800, Javier Prats wrote: >> Where is this info kept on the install image and how would I go about >> modifying it locally to start playing? I'd like to learn whether some >> one else does this or not. > > It's in anaconda.

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le jeudi 04 novembre 2010 à 19:40 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak a écrit : > On 11/04/2010 07:26 PM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: > > Yes, this thread is what I was referring to. > > > > If you're happy with /var/log/openjdk as a location for error logs, I > > can look at adding this option upstream. > >

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le jeudi 04 novembre 2010 à 09:38 -0700, Adam Williamson a écrit : > On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 13:28 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > > So can someone please explain my why I should continue to try to > > > improve Fedora by reporting bugs ? > > > > Glad you ask this. The bugzapping script is stu

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 11/04/2010 07:26 PM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: > On 19:06 Thu 04 Nov , Jiri Moskovcak wrote: >> On 11/04/2010 06:56 PM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: >>> On 17:54 Thu 04 Nov , Frank Murphy wrote: On 04/11/10 17:51, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: > This is the problem w

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Dr Andrew John Hughes
On 19:06 Thu 04 Nov , Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > On 11/04/2010 06:56 PM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: > > On 17:54 Thu 04 Nov , Frank Murphy wrote: > >> On 04/11/10 17:51, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: > >> > >> > >>> This is the problem we have with java-1.6.0-openjdk, except it's magnified >

Re: Compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer on x86_64?

2010-11-04 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 12:28:22PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > If we go ahead and do something about that problem, what about just using > -fno-omit-frame-pointer during rawhide builds, and then switching it off > at branch time ? > Just figuring out what this entails: would this mean doing two ma

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 11/04/2010 06:56 PM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: > On 17:54 Thu 04 Nov , Frank Murphy wrote: >> On 04/11/10 17:51, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: >> >> >>> This is the problem we have with java-1.6.0-openjdk, except it's magnified >>> by the fact that the user could be running *ANYTHING* on t

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On 04/11/10 17:56, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: > I just have. Excellent. > > And not for the first time. Constantly evolving. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 17:51 +, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: > Please turn these off for this package until such a time as the default > abrt report is actually useful for some form of diagnosis, which means > it at least has an hs_err file and mandatory reproducer information. It'd be best to

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Dr Andrew John Hughes
On 17:54 Thu 04 Nov , Frank Murphy wrote: > On 04/11/10 17:51, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: > > > > This is the problem we have with java-1.6.0-openjdk, except it's magnified > > by the fact that the user could be running *ANYTHING* on the JVM. So if > > some native code in a Java applicatio

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On 04/11/10 17:51, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: > This is the problem we have with java-1.6.0-openjdk, except it's magnified > by the fact that the user could be running *ANYTHING* on the JVM. So if > some native code in a Java application crashes the JVM, we get an abrt > bug report for it. >

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Dr Andrew John Hughes
On 07:41 Thu 04 Nov , Ralf Corsepius wrote: > snip... > > As a maintainer, abrt to me primarily means "wading through wakes of > hardly readable emails", mostly to scan them for useful information. I > many cases I ended up with closing BZ, because these emails did not > contain sufficient

[perl-POE-Filter-IRCD] Update, clean spec.

2010-11-04 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
commit 7d75c071e56dfa93e7aecf883055fea062d9e0d4 Author: Marcela Mašláňová Date: Thu Nov 4 18:38:15 2010 +0100 Update, clean spec. perl-POE-Filter-IRCD.spec | 14 +- 1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-POE-Filter-IRCD.spec b/perl-POE-Filter-

Re: Compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer on x86_64?

2010-11-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 04:51:01PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > [ But yes, 4% is a big hit. 1% I would accept without hesitation. > 4% does make me hesitate a little bit. During devel cycles, we > accept much more slowdown than that for the debug kernel, > of course. If we can figure out

Re: disable drm_kms_helper polling in kernel 2.6.35

2010-11-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 05:23:09PM +0300, macachuto wrote: > Dear All. > > I would like to ask, when it will be possible to have kernel 2.6.35 with > /sys/module/drm_kms_helper/parameters/poll to disable "hotplug" polling. > > I have laptop with i915GM video and experience mouse cursor fre

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/04/2010 04:24 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 04:10:31PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> If the maintainer is not responding to reports or not acting as the link >> to upstream ( that if he's not upstream himself ) for the component he's >> responsable for in

Re: ABRT opt-out? (Re: bugzilla bugzappers?)

2010-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 14:21 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 04.11.2010, 12:18 +0100 schrieb Sven Lankes: > > On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 02:15:30AM -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > > > > The question is Am I using the time efficiently? OR Are the these > > > tools actually preventi

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 14:20 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 04.11.2010, 02:15 -0400 schrieb Orcan Ogetbil: > > The question is > > Am I using the time efficiently? OR > > Are the these tools actually preventing me to be efficient during my > > available time? > > How would th

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 13:28 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > So can someone please explain my why I should continue to try to > > improve Fedora by reporting bugs ? > > Glad you ask this. The bugzapping script is stupid. It asks the reporter > for NEEDINFO when in fact it ought to ask WTF has t

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 12:18 +0100, Sven Lankes wrote: > On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 02:15:30AM -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > > The question is Am I using the time efficiently? OR Are the these > > tools actually preventing me to be efficient during my available time? > > Wasn't there some way for a

My email

2010-11-04 Thread Abdel G . Martínez L .
abdel.g.martine...@gmail.com -- *Abdel G. Martínez L. Celular: 6125-1563 Correo Electrónico: abdel.marti...@yahoo.com abdel.marti...@utp.ac.pa abdel.marti...@hotmail.es abdel.g.martine...@gmail.com* ___ python-devel mailing list python-de...@lists.fed

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 04:10:31PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > If the maintainer is not responding to reports or not acting as the link > to upstream ( that if he's not upstream himself ) for the component he's > responsable for in Fedora I ask you this why are those components in >

Re: rawhide report: 20101104 changes

2010-11-04 Thread Jesse Keating
On 11/4/10 2:48 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Hi, > >> Summary: >> Added Packages: 0 >> Removed Packages: 9900 >> Modified Packages: 0 > > It's a bit strange. Isn't it? > > Regards, > Michal Small hiccup. Bill fixed it. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://id

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/04/2010 01:21 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 04.11.2010, 13:28 +0100 schrieb Michael Schwendt: >> On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 21:41:22 +0100, Bert wrote: >>> So can someone please explain my why I should continue to try to >>> improve Fedora by reporting bugs ? >> Glad you ask this.

rawhide report: 20101103 changes

2010-11-04 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Nov 3 08:15:18 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 1:anjuta-2.31.90.0-3.fc15.i686 requires libvala-0.10.so.0 1:anjuta-2.31.90.0-3.fc15.x86_64 requires libvala-0.10.so.0()(64bit) apcupsd-3.14.8-3.

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread David Malcolm
On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 21:02 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Bert Desmet wrote: > > hi! > > > > This is something I got in my mail box today. > > As I don't have a valid answer for this, maybe someone else can answer for > > me? > > > > cheers, Bert > > > > the url of

Prelink erases capabilities (was: Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-10-26) NEW TIME!)

2010-11-04 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Here's another problem: Prelink erases file-based capabilities. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456105 Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com Fedora now supports 80 OCaml packages

Re: rawhide report: 20101104 changes

2010-11-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 10:48:03 +0100 Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Hi, > > > Summary: > > Added Packages: 0 > > Removed Packages: 9900 > > Modified Packages: 0 > > It's a bit strange. Isn't it? Rawhide is bug free today! :) Seriously, it's due to some mash changes to break inheritence between f15

[Bug 647503] perl-Log-Dispatch: please update to 2.27

2010-11-04 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=647503 --- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System 2010-11-04 11:08:33 EDT --- perl-Log-Dispatch-2.27-1.fc14 has been submitted as an upd

[Bug 647503] perl-Log-Dispatch: please update to 2.27

2010-11-04 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=647503 --- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System 2010-11-04 11:08:25 EDT --- perl-Log-Dispatch-2.27-1.fc13 has been submitted as an upd

Re: ABRT opt-out? (Re: bugzilla bugzappers?)

2010-11-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On 04/11/10 14:46, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: but when user > wants to report (or generate a backtrace) it will tell him something like: > >ABRT can't report a bug in this application, because it's not able > to gather all required information. You can analyze the bug using ABRT, > but you h

ABRT opt-out? (Re: bugzilla bugzappers?)

2010-11-04 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 4 Nov 2010, Christoph Wickert wrote: > How would you do that? A popup in ABRT that reads > > "Sorry, but the maintainer of this package > has decided to not accept any bug reports." > > I think this would be a *really* bad user experience. If telling the truth ab

Re: ABRT opt-out? (Re: bugzilla bugzappers?)

2010-11-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 11/04/2010 03:38 PM, Sven Lankes wrote: > On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > [Opt-out for ABRT-Reports] > >> How would you do that? A popup in ABRT that reads >>"Sorry, but the maintainer of this package >>has decided to not acc

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "RC" == Ralf Corsepius writes: RC> In other words, as far as I am concerned, abrt has reduced RC> efficiency of bug-hunting by flooding maintainers with low quality, RC> often unusable reports and risen the communication churn related to RC> BZs. It's been discussed many times and I still

Re: ABRT opt-out? (Re: bugzilla bugzappers?)

2010-11-04 Thread Sven Lankes
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: [Opt-out for ABRT-Reports] > How would you do that? A popup in ABRT that reads > "Sorry, but the maintainer of this package > has decided to not accept any bug reports." Nope. App X crashes and the

[perl-Log-Dispatch/el6/master] update to 2.27

2010-11-04 Thread Tom Callaway
commit 3583f01cadb963e963379cb99f57835ebc5ebea5 Author: Tom "spot" Callaway Date: Thu Nov 4 10:35:42 2010 -0400 update to 2.27 perl-Log-Dispatch.spec | 44 ++-- sources|2 +- 2 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 27 deletions(-) -

[perl-Log-Dispatch/f14/master] update to 2.27

2010-11-04 Thread Tom Callaway
commit 69b521d3e82448661cbf2cdea60de4a05f31c262 Author: Tom "spot" Callaway Date: Thu Nov 4 10:35:24 2010 -0400 update to 2.27 perl-Log-Dispatch.spec | 36 ++-- sources|2 +- 2 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-) --- diff

[perl-Log-Dispatch/f13/master] update to 2.27

2010-11-04 Thread Tom Callaway
commit fe006874ad09ab439615db43ea80c6964a723207 Author: Tom "spot" Callaway Date: Thu Nov 4 10:35:06 2010 -0400 update to 2.27 perl-Log-Dispatch.spec | 39 +-- sources|2 +- 2 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-) --- di

[Bug 505766] No IPv6 support in Perl::Net::Server (hurts Munin and others)

2010-11-04 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505766 Bernie Innocenti changed: What|Removed |Added --

disable drm_kms_helper polling in kernel 2.6.35

2010-11-04 Thread macachuto
Dear All. I would like to ask, when it will be possible to have kernel 2.6.35 with /sys/module/drm_kms_helper/parameters/poll to disable "hotplug" polling. I have laptop with i915GM video and experience mouse cursor freezes every 10 second. This is all about: issue with "hotplug" polling on t

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
Hi, some possitive news from me first: We have a new backtrace parser which should be able to find the duplicates much better (tested on every known dupes reported by ABRT so far) so at least the number of dupes should lower once this out (we're having some troubles with SELinux so it didn't mak

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Donnerstag, den 04.11.2010, 13:28 +0100 schrieb Michael Schwendt: > On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 21:41:22 +0100, Bert wrote: > > > > So can someone please explain my why I should continue to try to > > improve Fedora by reporting bugs ? > > Glad you ask this. The bugzapping script is stupid. It asks the

ABRT opt-out? (Re: bugzilla bugzappers?)

2010-11-04 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Donnerstag, den 04.11.2010, 12:18 +0100 schrieb Sven Lankes: > On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 02:15:30AM -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > > The question is Am I using the time efficiently? OR Are the these > > tools actually preventing me to be efficient during my available time? > > Wasn't there some

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Donnerstag, den 04.11.2010, 02:15 -0400 schrieb Orcan Ogetbil: > The question is > Am I using the time efficiently? OR > Are the these tools actually preventing me to be efficient during my > available time? How would they? You can ignore all bug reports, you can even set up a mail filter to n

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 21:41:22 +0100, Bert wrote: > hi! > > This is something I got in my mail box today. > As I don't have a valid answer for this, maybe someone else can answer for me? > > cheers, Bert > > the url of the blog of the guy: http://www.krisbuytaert.be/blog/ > > == the mail == > >

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 23:10:54 -0400 Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > I am pretty sure a subset of these closed bugs are "mass-closing" of > bugs when a maintainer updates the software. Sometimes, when you > forward the report upstream, they don't understand the output either, > and say "it may be fixed, just

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Sven Lankes
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 02:15:30AM -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > The question is Am I using the time efficiently? OR Are the these > tools actually preventing me to be efficient during my available time? Wasn't there some way for a maintainer to opt out of abrt? I remember seeing this being disc

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On 04/11/10 06:56, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > For a bug that I can reproduce, the time it takes for me to fix it > might be comparable to the time it takes me to report it upstream and > get it fixed there. Maybe not something all users can do, write code? Should not be a barrier to using Linux, Fe

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Orcan Ogetbil [04/11/2010 09:35] : > > The extreme inefficiency comes from the bugs that I can't reproduce, > the upstream can't reproduce, and the user isn't responding. And this > happens *a lot*. Most of the time, they don't even put down the steps > to reproduce. Can we at least mandate inclu

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Matthias Runge
On 04/11/10 04:23, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 22:12 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-03

[Bug 526255] tkmib crashes

2010-11-04 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526255 --- Comment #2 from Bug Zapper 2010-11-04 05:45:24 EDT --- This message is a reminder that Fedora 12 is nearing its end of lif

[Bug 649418] perl-Lingua-EN-Tagger-debuginfo is empty

2010-11-04 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=649418 --- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System 2010-11-04 05:44:22 EDT --- perl-Lingua-EN-Tagger-0.16-4.fc13 has been submitted as an

Re: rawhide report: 20101104 changes

2010-11-04 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, > Summary: > Added Packages: 0 > Removed Packages: 9900 > Modified Packages: 0 It's a bit strange. Isn't it? Regards, Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Andy Shevchenko
As far as I understand the process you might just recheck your bug report against last official release and bump version in the corresponding field if the bug is still reproducible. Otherwise, no-one is interested to improve 2-3years old _desktop_ system. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Bert Des

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-04 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: > Java SIG has prepared changes in current Java packaging guidelines. We > would welcome wider discussion/comments at this point. From our point of > view guidelines seem ready for approval by FPC. > > You can see current version of draft

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-04 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Wednesday 03 November 2010, Alexander Kurtakov wrote: > > There is no sane way to make javadoc crosslink in a sane way, i.e. without > patching builds. That's why I would say let's postpone this until we can > tell packagers HOWTO do it. I'm not against postponing as long as it's not forgotten

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-04 Thread Alexander Kurtakov
> > On 11/3/10 2:14 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > And it's unreasonable to expect those ISVs to change when Fedora has > > > not managed to package a working JBoss. If the Red Hat Java packaging > > > can not even be used with the top Red Hat Java product, what is there > > > to say? (and on thi

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/04/2010 07:55 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 07:41 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > I'm not sure SNR is the be-all and end-all, really. When it comes to efficiency, it is. In other words, as far as I am concerned, abrt has reduced efficiency of bug-hunting by flooding mai