Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chris Adams wrote: > Hmm, I didn't know that. Which does RPM use when generating > dependencies? It would appear that it is is using ldd; should that be > changed? No, RPM does not pull in recursive soname dependencies, only direct ones. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.

Re: Nomination period for Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo elections closes Nov. 5

2011-11-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 05:29:38PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 08:16:57 -0700, > Robyn Bergeron wrote: > > > > Full information about the elections, including the elections schedule, > > and links to where one may nominate, can be seen here: > > https://fedoraprojec

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Ville Skyttä said: > How are you checking whether your executable ended up linked with > something? If with ldd, note that it's recursive. AFAIU for example > "eu-readelf -d /path/to/something | grep NEEDED" shows a better picture > which is also mirrored in package dependencie

Re: xfce-weather-plugin stopped working

2011-11-05 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler said: > The KDE Plasma weather widget, which prides itself on only using sources > whose usage in this context was allowed by the data provider To be fair, I believe that the usage of weather.com by a number of open source projects was within the policies. However

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-05 Thread Bojan Smojver
Kevin Kofler chello.at> writes: > I, for > one, want my computer to work the way I learned and interiorized a computer > works, any "innovative" interface destroys my automatisms and confuses me. > > I'm using Plasma Desktop with the Classic menu (not the default fancy > Kickoff), only 1 virt

Re: Nomination period for Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo elections closes Nov. 5

2011-11-05 Thread Robyn Bergeron
Sorry (about the lack of clarification, *and* for top-posting - on a sucky client) - I was going for brevity, and mistakenly thought that the policies/requirements for each election was on the main election page and/or each nomination page - and it's not, which should also be corrected. -Robyn

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Tom Lane
Michael Schwendt writes: > On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:07:44 -0400, TL (Tom) wrote: >> My list was just the result of "repoquery --whatrequires". > The last Rawhide build of "geeqie" also doesn't depend on libpng*. > F-15 does, however, which might be where you've run repoquery. Hmm ... actually I di

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:07:44 -0400, TL (Tom) wrote: > > On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 00:03:28 +0200, VS (Ville) wrote: > >> How are you checking whether your executable ended up linked with > >> something? > > > Admittedly, I trusted Tom Lane's list of affected packages, looked at > > ldd -u -r output and

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Tom Lane
Michael Schwendt writes: > On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 00:03:28 +0200, VS (Ville) wrote: >> How are you checking whether your executable ended up linked with >> something? > Admittedly, I trusted Tom Lane's list of affected packages, looked at > ldd -u -r output and then examined the source. My list was

Re: Self Introduction

2011-11-05 Thread Olivier BONHOMME
Le 23/07/2011 18:40, Olivier BONHOMME a écrit : > Hello everybody, > > I am Olivier from France. I work now as a System/Network Architect in > the Spatial domain especially in Satellite telecommunications. I work > every day on Linux Platform especially Fedora / Redhat / CentOS platform > doing sof

Re: Nomination period for Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo elections closes Nov. 5

2011-11-05 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 08:16:57 -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > > Full information about the elections, including the elections schedule, > and links to where one may nominate, can be seen here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections This misses an important link. FESCO has their policy f

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 00:03:28 +0200, VS (Ville) wrote: > How are you checking whether your executable ended up linked with > something? Admittedly, I trusted Tom Lane's list of affected packages, looked at ldd -u -r output and then examined the source. > If with ldd, note that it's recursive. A

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 11/05/2011 11:20 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:02:42 +0100, KK (Kevin) wrote: > >>> Lots of executables end up linked with libpng12 due to other libs (cairo, >>> gdk-pixbuf2) being linked with it. Neither -lpng12 or -lpng is added >>> explicitly. >> >> Not due to them bei

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-05 Thread Bojan Smojver
Mathieu Bridon fedoraproject.org> writes: > Right now, if I want to start an app, I just hit alt+f2, type the first > few letters, hit tab and then enter. > > No zoom, no search, no expose, no workspaces, no dash. > > Just see it that way: you have one powerful interface to do advanced > stuff

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:02:42 +0100, KK (Kevin) wrote: > > Lots of executables end up linked with libpng12 due to other libs (cairo, > > gdk-pixbuf2) being linked with it. Neither -lpng12 or -lpng is added > > explicitly. > > Not due to them being LINKED with it, but due to them shipping .pc or .l

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Schwendt wrote: > Lots of executables end up linked with libpng12 due to other libs (cairo, > gdk-pixbuf2) being linked with it. Neither -lpng12 or -lpng is added > explicitly. Not due to them being LINKED with it, but due to them shipping .pc or .la files (probably .pc, since we normally

Re: reporting bugs

2011-11-05 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 5.11.2011 21:40, Kevin Kofler napsal(a): > Ian Malone wrote: >> What would be nice would be the ability to forward bugs upstream from >> within bugzilla. > > Yes, definitely! But the problem is that getting it right is hard, and > requires closer cooperation with upstream infrastructure than we

Re: reporting bugs

2011-11-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:49:16 +0100, RH (Reindl) wrote: > guys this is not the way you can act with users treat them report > exactly where and how you like it, a few peopole will do, most > will never again report any bug and stop testing packages and > later if there are too few testers maintaine

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
enaut wrote: > I am one of them and I went directly from the tilling-WM Xmonad to gnome > 3! So you can't say it's only for absolute noobs :). The fact that you were using a tiling WM first shows that you are much more willing to adapt to unconventional designs than most other users. I, for one,

Re: reporting bugs

2011-11-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ian Malone wrote: > What would be nice would be the ability to forward bugs upstream from > within bugzilla. Yes, definitely! But the problem is that getting it right is hard, and requires closer cooperation with upstream infrastructure than we currently have. (In particular, we'd like the bug t

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-05 Thread mike cloaked
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 8:30 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > I decided to try another tack this evening on my test machine which > "was" running F15 - I placed the F16 install iso on a partition which > would not be touched - and loop mounted it - then pulled vmlinuz and > initrd.img into /boot, and mad

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-05 Thread mike cloaked
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > See, the problem we solved in RC5 only came when you wrote the installer > to USB with l-i-t-d *and then used it to upgrade an F15 system*. The > problem was that anaconda doesn't filter out the USB key it's installing > from as a potential

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 20:12:28 +0200, VS (Ville) wrote: > On 11/05/2011 07:02 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > > The list of packages that need to be rebuilt is attached. > > I suggest maintainers take this opportunity to review whether all these > packages really need to be linked against libpng - I'm positi

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-11-05 at 17:04 +, mike cloaked wrote: > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > There are various 'hot topics' exposed during the F16 cycle that we'll > > likely expand the matrix to cover better in F17 - bootloader location > > issues, EFI issues, USB instal

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Richard Shaw writes: >> This is my first time as a contributor to run into this. >> Do I simply need to increment by release by 1 (or .1?) and build? > > If no source-code changes are needed, then yes, it's sufficient to > increment the release nu

Re: reporting bugs

2011-11-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.11.2011 20:18, schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Reindl Harald wrote: >> yes - because most maintainers are having bugzilla-accounts upstream >> and reading the uptream-mailing-lists and are much more cooperative as >> the KDE SIG, especially Kevin Kofler > > Yes, we have Bugzilla accounts upstream.

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Tom Lane
Richard Shaw writes: > This is my first time as a contributor to run into this. > Do I simply need to increment by release by 1 (or .1?) and build? If no source-code changes are needed, then yes, it's sufficient to increment the release number (either way that suits you) and rebuild in rawhide.

Re: reporting bugs

2011-11-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Reindl Harald wrote: > yes - because most maintainers are having bugzilla-accounts upstream > and reading the uptream-mailing-lists and are much more cooperative as > the KDE SIG, especially Kevin Kofler Yes, we have Bugzilla accounts upstream. But as I explained, upstream wants to talk to the ac

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ville Skyttä wrote: > I suggest maintainers take this opportunity to review whether all these > packages really need to be linked against libpng - I'm positive that the > list contains a lot of packages that don't. -Wl,--as-needed in LDFLAGS > (in addition to RPM_LD_FLAGS) is one easy way that can

Re: xfce-weather-plugin stopped working

2011-11-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Johannes Lips wrote: > http://developer.yahoo.com/weather/ > is this perhaps an alternative? Perhaps we could collect weather > services and then choose the service which makes it easiest to port the > plugin. The KDE Plasma weather widget, which prides itself on only using sources whose usage in

Self Introduction

2011-11-05 Thread Tom Hughes
Having been a Fedora (and RedHat before that) user for more years then I care to think about I have decided that it must be high time for me to contribute my first package. So I have opened a review request for libgxps with the aim of getting support for XPS files into evince. The review reques

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 11/05/2011 07:02 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > The list of packages that need to be rebuilt is attached. I suggest maintainers take this opportunity to review whether all these packages really need to be linked against libpng - I'm positive that the list contains a lot of packages that don't. -Wl,--as

Re: Package picolisp

2011-11-05 Thread Kalpa Pathum Welivitigoda
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Buddhika Kurera wrote: > Yes I have started from that and followed a classroom from Rahul too. I > think I am good to start, so join me with you :) yeah proceed according to the guideline. > Will do it for F17 hureeey :) :) > Alex and Kalpa this is going to be my

Re: Package picolisp

2011-11-05 Thread Buddhika Kurera
Yes I have started from that and followed a classroom from Rahul too. I think I am good to start, so join me with you :) Will do it for F17 hureeey :) :) Alex and Kalpa this is going to be my first real package work. Congrats bckurera! On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Kalpa Pathum Welivitigod

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Nathan O.
If it is a new version from upstream then the release will be 1 but if you are updating the SPEC file you would increment the release number. On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > This is my first time as a contributor to run into this. > > Do I simply need to increment by relea

Re: Package picolisp

2011-11-05 Thread Kalpa Pathum Welivitigoda
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:49 PM, Buddhika Kurera wrote: > Hello All, > I am not a techie or a geek :) > But I would like to learn about that(have a little experience though :) ), > Kalpa and Alex, you guys like to take me to the boat? > yeah sure, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Package_Ma

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Richard Shaw
This is my first time as a contributor to run into this. Do I simply need to increment by release by 1 (or .1?) and build? Thanks, Richard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Package picolisp

2011-11-05 Thread Buddhika Kurera
Hello All, I am not a techie or a geek :) But I would like to learn about that(have a little experience though :) ), Kalpa and Alex, you guys like to take me to the boat? On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote: > Hi Alex, > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Alexander Burger

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-05 Thread mike cloaked
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > There are various 'hot topics' exposed during the F16 cycle that we'll > likely expand the matrix to cover better in F17 - bootloader location > issues, EFI issues, USB installer issues (when we first drew up the > installation tests, using

Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Tom Lane
The list of packages that need to be rebuilt is attached. I'm not too sure about ordering dependencies, but I do know that gd and libsexy need to be rebuilt before some of the others. Some of these packages will require source code changes. See yesterday's discussion for hints about where to fin

Re: reporting bugs

2011-11-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.11.2011 01:50, schrieb Orion Poplawski: > On 11/04/2011 05:39 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >> On 4 November 2011 17:23, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> Ian Malone wrote: If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen different bugzilla accounts by now. >>> >>> So what? Maintain

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.11.2011 18:17, schrieb Michal Schmidt: > On 11/04/2011 06:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> well, everytime i come in contact with anything from apple i could throw >> something out of the window beginning with the "systemctl ACTION service" >> instead "systemctl SERVICE action" while i laug

Re: Self Introduction

2011-11-05 Thread Mattia Meneguzzo
The link to the review request in the first message is wrong. Here's the correct one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=751537 Waiting anxiously for your reviews... ;-) 2011/11/5 Mattia Meneguzzo > Hi! > I've been a happy Fedora user for some years, but now I'd like to give > some con

Review(s) swap - sugar activities

2011-11-05 Thread Kalpa Pathum Welivitigoda
Hello, Folloing are few sugar activities that I have packaged. They need to be reviewed. Anyone interested in reviewing them all, some or one? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741494 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=744864 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749812 h

Re: Package picolisp

2011-11-05 Thread Kalpa Welivitigoda
Hi Alex, On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Alexander Burger wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a question to package maintainers. > > I'm the upstream developer of PicoLisp, and would like to see it > included in the Fedora wishlist. Currently, PicoLisp is available in > OpenWRT and the Debian family of

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-05 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 5.11.2011 00:39, Ian Malone napsal(a): > Is there any point in me reporting any bug in Fedora bugzilla ever then? Of course, there are plenty of bugs caused by our packaging or moments when one programs stomps on the other one's toes. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/page.cgi?id=fields.html#u

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-05 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Sat, 2011-11-05 at 13:40 +, Bojan Smojver wrote: > w googlemail.com> > writes: > > > Yet look at all the happy users of > default Gnome 3! > > I am one of them [... snip ...] > Please. What would you think of the > system that when you click on FF starts > FF, Evo and Gimp? I think you

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-05 Thread Bojan Smojver
w googlemail.com> writes: > Yet look at all the happy users of default Gnome 3! > I am one of them and I went directly from the tilling-WM Xmonad to gnome > 3! So you can't say it's only for absolute noobs :). I installed it and > it took about a week to get used to it so that I stopped thin

rawhide report: 20111105 changes

2011-11-05 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Nov 5 08:15:12 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 4ti2-1.3.2-7.fc17.1.x86_64 requires libgmp.so.3()(64bit) 1:anerley-0.3.0-5.fc17.i686 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.15 1:anerley-0.3.0-5.fc17.i6

Self Introduction

2011-11-05 Thread Mattia Meneguzzo
Hi! I've been a happy Fedora user for some years, but now I'd like to give some contribution to the project. I'm going to package gnome-shell-extension-weather (URL: https://github.com/simon04/gnome-shell-extension-weather), an useful extension for Gnome Shell to display weather information

Re: reporting bugs

2011-11-05 Thread Ian Malone
On 5 November 2011 00:50, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 11/04/2011 05:39 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >> On 4 November 2011 17:23, Kevin Kofler  wrote: >>> Ian Malone wrote: If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen different bugzilla accounts by now. >>> >>> So what? Mainta

Re: xfce-weather-plugin stopped working

2011-11-05 Thread Johannes Lips
On 11/05/2011 09:36 AM, Johannes Lips wrote: > On 11/05/2011 06:11 AM, Chris Adams wrote: >> Once upon a time, Heiko Adams said: >>> yesterday in the afternoon the xfce-weather-plugin suddenly stopped >>> working and allways displays "No Data". Trying to switch my location >>> or update my fedora 1

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-05 Thread enaut
On 05.11.2011 01:09, Bojan Smojver wrote: > Ian Malone gmail.com> writes: > >> This is essentially giving up. It's frustrating to be stuck on >> overview mode on a four core machine while gnome-shell is doing >> /something/ but you don't know what. If it worked fluidly it would be >> okay. > For m

Re: xfce-weather-plugin stopped working

2011-11-05 Thread Johannes Lips
On 11/05/2011 06:11 AM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Heiko Adams said: >> yesterday in the afternoon the xfce-weather-plugin suddenly stopped >> working and allways displays "No Data". Trying to switch my location >> or update my fedora 16 against updates-testing also didn't solve that >