Re: Multirelease effort: Moving to Python 3

- Original Message - > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:24:22AM -0400, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > > Hi all, > > as a new Fedora Python maintainer, I have set myself a goal of moving > > Fedora to Python 3 as a default. > > I'm not sure we want to make python3 default depending on what your > defin

Re: Multirelease effort: Moving to Python 3

On 07/19/2013 05:44 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Jul 18, 2013 5:42 PM, "Michael Catanzaro" mailto:mike.catanz...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 09:53 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > /usr/bin/python should refer to python2 -- > > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/ I'd

Re: F20 System Wide Change: Web Assets

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Robert Marcano wrote: > Not all fonts installed had the same licensing requirement, people install > fonts from other places that are not as careful as Fedora with the licenses. > It is problematic if someone install a non free font to be used on their > desktop ap

Re: Rawhide tree now includes install images

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:23:10 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > Is there still a plan to do builds of the normal install iso, > analagous to the nightly composes for live images? Yep. Dennis was going to look into doing some kind of weekly dvd iso compose. I'm not sure DVD is worthwhile, and i

Re: Multirelease effort: Moving to Python 3

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:24:22AM -0400, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > > From packaging point of view, this will probably require: > 1) Renaming python package to python2 > 2) Renaming python3 package to python > 3) Switching the %{?with_python3} conditionals in specfiles to > %{?with_python2} (we wi

Re: Multirelease effort: Moving to Python 3

On Jul 18, 2013 5:42 PM, "Michael Catanzaro" wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 09:53 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > /usr/bin/python should refer to python2 -- > > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/ I'd be -1 to changing this > But when python2 is no longer installed by default, surely

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

- Original Message - > Hi > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Ding Yi Chen wrote: > > http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE/opensuse-tuning/cha.tuning.logfiles.html > > > Looks like they either still have /var/log/messages, > > > or their documentation team are lazy. >

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

- Original Message - > On Wed, 17.07.13 22:35, Ding Yi Chen (dc...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > This should be simpler than forcing those stubborn mind (such as me) to > > change, > > No? > > We don't force anyone. You can just install rsyslog and you have > everything as you love it. And

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

- Original Message - > On Wed, 17.07.13 22:08, Ding Yi Chen (dc...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > Well, this won't "break" systems as the change is only for new > > > installations. Existing systems will stay exactly as they are, rsyslog > > > stays installed, and will work as always. > > >

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

Hi On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Ding Yi Chen wrote: > > > > http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE/opensuse-tuning/cha.tuning.logfiles.html > > Looks like they either still have /var/log/messages, > or their documentation team are lazy. > Be careful about such assumptions. Th

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

- Original Message - > On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 14:58 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > We ask this constantly on Fedora. Because Fedora is where innovation is > > supposed to take place, not where things are stay frozen in carbonite > > forever. > > > > (And let's never forget that Fedo

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

- Original Message - > john.flor...@dart.biz (john.flor...@dart.biz) said: > > > Or you can de-install rsyslog and have everything as you love it. > > > > Which makes more sense: take a default and modify it via composition ... > > or take a default and modify it via decomposition? > >

Re: Virtual provides for files in /var/log

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 04:35:22PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Yes, it's just that if we're moving these packages from being broken in a > non-default, administrator-configured configuration to being broken in the > out-of-the-box configuration, it might be worthwhile to know that ahead of > ti

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Remove deprecated calls of using ntpdate in favor of ntpd

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 01:34:40PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Sure, but that's part of ntp, and we're supposed to be using chrony as > Fedora's default time sync software now. It just seems untidy for > anaconda to configure chrony but need to use a part of ntp (ntpdate or > sntp) to test serv

Re: Multirelease effort: Moving to Python 3

On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 09:53 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > /usr/bin/python should refer to python2 -- > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/ I'd be -1 to changing this But when python2 is no longer installed by default, surely you want to get a python prompt when you type 'python'? sign

Announcing Fedora 19 ARM remix for Allwinner SOCs release 1, now with A20 support

Hi All, I'm very happy to announce the first release (r1) of my Fedora 19 ARM remix images for Allwinner A10, A10s, A13 and A20 based devices. This release is based on the official Fedora 19 Final for ARM images, with u-boot and kernel(s) from the linux-sunxi project: http://linux-sunxi.org/ Bes

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Remove deprecated calls of using ntpdate in favor of ntpd

Once upon a time, Adam Williamson said: > Sure, but that's part of ntp, and we're supposed to be using chrony as > Fedora's default time sync software now. It just seems untidy for > anaconda to configure chrony but need to use a part of ntp (ntpdate or > sntp) to test server functionality. Well,

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 10:59 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: > On 07/18/2013 08:09 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > On Wed, 17.07.13 22:35, Ding Yi Chen (dc...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > > This should be simpler than forcing those stubborn mind (such as me) to > > > change, > > > No? > > We don't fo

Re: Virtual provides for files in /var/log

Panu Matilainen (pmati...@laiskiainen.org) said: > So... /var/log/messages is not guaranteed to be there even now, > because it depends on rsyslog configuration. So any packages which > cannot handle missing /var/log/messages are broken already in a > non-default (but probably not all that uncommo

[perl-Test-Kwalitee] Update to 1.09

commit a56d7c46143a553b5a169de05ed02182a8aa80d9 Author: Paul Howarth Date: Thu Jul 18 21:31:09 2013 +0100 Update to 1.09 - New upstream release 1.09 - The has_test_pod, has_test_pod_coverage tests have been removed - they are classified as 'extra', and have been larg

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Remove deprecated calls of using ntpdate in favor of ntpd

On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 09:39 +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > > In fact, now I look at it, ntpd as it stands cannot replace ntpdate for > > anaconda's purposes, because anaconda calls ntpdate with the -q option, > > which means "query only, do not set the clock" - obviously, this is > > appropriate

Re: F20 System Wide Change: Visible Cloud

On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 18:08 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:12:03PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > So, to put a number on it, does that mean _at_ the change freeze and > > > branch > > > which is "no earlier than 2013-08-06"? > > As things stand, yeah. I think for F1

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Re: Virtual provides for files in /var/log

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 04:11:47PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > In an ideal view, it makes most sense to provide the rsyslog default > > configuration in a subpackage which puts the /var/log/messages and > > /var/log/secure conf files in /etc/rsyslog.d -- then, this subpackage would > > provid

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

john.flor...@dart.biz (john.flor...@dart.biz) said: > > Or you can de-install rsyslog and have everything as you love it. > > Which makes more sense: take a default and modify it via composition ... > or take a default and modify it via decomposition? > > I'd always choose the former, regardles

Re: Virtual provides for files in /var/log

On 07/18/2013 06:11 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 02:19:30PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: So, you suggest using "Requires: /var/log/messages" and "Provides: /var/log/messages" as indication for this, and the %ghost /var/log/messages in the packages in question? Sounds goo

Re: Virtual provides for files in /var/log

Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said: > My main concern with this is that it's a lie. That file only exists because > of the default configuration. In many cases, rsyslog will be configured to > either write different files, or most likely, to write no local files at all > as all data is

Re: Virtual provides for files in /var/log

On 07/18/2013 04:42 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 18.07.13 15:47, Panu Matilainen (pmati...@laiskiainen.org) wrote: I would suggest it, but it is not recommended by guidelines :( so I suggest some (not yet) standardized virtual provide, which will be more descriptive than "syslog-files"

Re: F20 System Wide Change: Web Assets

On 07/16/2013 06:24 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: ... Additionally the following symlinks will be provided: * /usr/share/javascript -> /usr/share/assets/javascript * /usr/share/fonts -> /usr/share/assets/fonts (so any Fedora font package can be used as a web font) Not all fonts installed had t

Away on vacation and for Guadec

Hi All, I'll be away on vacation Jul 18 - 26 (and not reading email), and I'll be at Guadec Jul 31 - Aug 7 (and sporadically reading my email). So if you're trying to reach me and I'm not responding immediately, that is why. I'll catch up with email, bugs, etc. when I return. Regards, Hans --

Re: F20 System Wide Change: Enable kdump on secureboot machines

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 08:51:36PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > = Proposed System Wide Change: Enable kdump on secureboot machines = > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Kdump_with_secureboot > > > == Detailed description == > >

[389-devel] Please review: [389 Project] #47367: ldapdelete returns non-leaf entry error while trying to remove a leaf entry

https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47367 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47367/0001-Ticket-47367-phase-1-ldapdelete-returns-non-leaf-ent.2.patch git patch file (master) - phase1: ported from 1.2.11 The difference from 1.2.11: [urp.c] 2) The urp calling timing was moved from SLAP

Re: F20 System Wide Change: Enable kdump on secureboot machines

On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: Enable kdump on secureboot machines = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Kdump_with_secureboot > == Detailed description == > /sbin/kexec prepares a binary blob, called purgatory. This code runs at > pr

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

Le Jeu 18 juillet 2013 20:34, James Hogarth a écrit : > I've also been there with dodgy hacky workarounds to deal with strange > stuff - but I wouldn't expect it to weight in an argument for something > like this ... Why not? In the imperfect world we live in, I'm quite sure they comprise a larg

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:31:56PM -0400, Steve Clark wrote: > What about scripts that use /usr/bin/logger? Do messages generated by this > utility > end up in the journal? Or php scripts, or programs using syslog(3). Yes, everything using standard syslog facilities ends up in the journal. -- de

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On 18 July 2013 19:26, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Without sounding too blunt, this is business as usual from a repair > end-user system point of view. I had dozens of such "oh btw can you fix my > system" experiences > > Yeah I've been there in the past ... which is why I have spare USB pen drive

EPEL intent up update libgearman in Fedora and

The gearmand package was recently orphaned for all branches. I've taken over maintenance, and Blake and I intend to push the latest upstream gearmand (1.1.8) to Fedora and EPEL 5 and 6. This will involve an ABI break from the current EPEL libgearmand package (0.14), although no packages in EPEL de

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

Le Jeu 18 juillet 2013 19:56, James Hogarth a écrit : > Without sounding too blunt I hope this does sound like we're entering the > territory of "lack of planning on your part does not constitute and > emergency on mine" as I have to occasionally remind people at work... > > This is such an extre

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 04:23:54PM -0500, Billy Crook wrote: > What about a special filesystem mounted at /var/log or filesystem trickery > therein that presents contents similar to what everyone expects, backed out > of journalctl and its storage then? It's probably straightforward to write a FUS

[Bug 986004] New: Update perl-CPAN-Meta-YAML to 0.008

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=986004 Bug ID: 986004 Summary: Update perl-CPAN-Meta-YAML to 0.008 Product: Fedora EPEL Version: el6 Component: perl-CPAN-Meta-YAML Severity: low Assignee: p...@city-fan.org

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On 18 Jul 2013 18:42, "Eric Smith" wrote: > > > Because I was about six hundred miles away from my office, didn't want > to take the user's computer apart if I could avoid it, and didn't have > a drive dock to hook up the user's drive to my laptop. The user had > Windows available on the machine,

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:11 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > Then you were not using it with a default installed Fedora anyway which has > a default of LVM in place I don't remember why there wasn't LVM. I don't remember whether I was the one that installed Linux on that machine in the first place.

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:54 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Why not read this files on another Fedora host ( or some other distro that > uses systemd )? > What's the reason for this hard dependency on Windows? Because I was about six hundred miles away from my office, didn't want to take th

Re: Virtual provides for files in /var/log

On Thu, 18.07.13 11:30, Orion Poplawski (or...@cora.nwra.com) wrote: > On 07/18/2013 06:19 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >On Thu, 18.07.13 10:34, Vít Ondruch (vondr...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > >>Dne 18.7.2013 01:02, Lennart Poettering napsal(a): > >>>So, maybe, instead of dropping the "Provides

[Bug 895022] Test-Email-0.07 is avaliable

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=895022 Ralf Corsepius changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Resolution|---

Re: Virtual provides for files in /var/log

On 07/18/2013 06:19 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 18.07.13 10:34, Vít Ondruch (vondr...@redhat.com) wrote: Dne 18.7.2013 01:02, Lennart Poettering napsal(a): So, maybe, instead of dropping the "Provides syslog" thing from journald, maybe we should add an explicit "syslog-files" depende

Re: Multirelease effort: Moving to Python 3

- Original Message - > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:24:22AM -0400, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > > Hi all, > > as a new Fedora Python maintainer, I have set myself a goal of > > moving Fedora to Python 3 as a default. > That's a worthy goal! > > > From packaging point of view, this will probably

Re: Multirelease effort: Moving to Python 3

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:24:22AM -0400, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > Hi all, > as a new Fedora Python maintainer, I have set myself a goal of moving > Fedora to Python 3 as a default. I'm not sure we want to make python3 default depending on what your definition of default is. /usr/bin/python shoul

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Thu, 18.07.13 17:11, James Hogarth (james.hoga...@gmail.com) wrote: > On 18 July 2013 16:51, Eric Smith wrote: > > > > > > > Maybe your question is poorly stated, then. > > > > What I thought you asked was how to read Linux log files from a > > Windows installation, e.g., when Linux fails to

Re: Virtual provides for files in /var/log

On Thu, 18.07.13 11:11, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 02:19:30PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > So, you suggest using "Requires: /var/log/messages" and "Provides: > > /var/log/messages" as indication for this, and the %ghost > > /var/log/messages

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On 07/18/2013 04:23 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 03:54:49PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: I've been able to do that using ext2fsd without much difficulty. I used that method when I wasn't able to boot a rescue or live CD, and the last resort would have been to pull t

Re: privileges in Koji

Ken Dreyer wrote: > I'm going through the "co-maintain to sponsor" process this week with > blakegardner on the gearmand package. Gearmand was recently orphaned, > and I've picked it up in order to work with blakegardner on the EL5 > branch. I sponsored Blake in FAS yesterday, and I was surprised

Re: Multirelease effort: Moving to Python 3

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:24:22AM -0400, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > Hi all, > as a new Fedora Python maintainer, I have set myself a goal of > moving Fedora to Python 3 as a default. That's a worthy goal! > From packaging point of view, this will probably require: > 1) Renaming python package to py

privileges in Koji

I'm going through the "co-maintain to sponsor" process this week with blakegardner on the gearmand package. Gearmand was recently orphaned, and I've picked it up in order to work with blakegardner on the EL5 branch. I sponsored Blake in FAS yesterday, and I was surprised to see that he was able to

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 03:54:49PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >>I've been able to do that using ext2fsd without much difficulty. I > >>used that method when I wasn't able to boot a rescue or live CD, and > >>the last resort would have been to pull the hard drive from the > >>machine an

Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 29

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 03:56:15PM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > * ARM as primary Architecture - > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ARM_as_Primary announced on 2013-07-09 > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-July/184962.html I just want to highlight the next sentence fo

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On 18 July 2013 16:51, Eric Smith wrote: > > > Maybe your question is poorly stated, then. > > What I thought you asked was how to read Linux log files from a > Windows installation, e.g., when Linux fails to boot. This is indeed the question - so given you understood it so it seems I would say

[perl-IO-Socket-IP: 2/2] 5.18 rebuild merge

commit f50cbc947dc66a63ae139f24ba7d2d0151a6c540 Merge: 15f3e4b cc37780 Author: Petr Šabata Date: Thu Jul 18 18:09:47 2013 +0200 5.18 rebuild merge perl-IO-Socket-IP.spec |7 +-- 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --cc perl-IO-Socket-IP.spec index fccb2ee,e41

[perl-IO-Socket-IP] (2 commits) ...5.18 rebuild merge

Summary of changes: 15f3e4b... Disable the SO_REUSEPORT test; koji builders don't support f50cbc9... 5.18 rebuild merge -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailm

[perl-IO-Socket-IP: 1/2] Disable the SO_REUSEPORT test; koji builders don't support this feature yet

commit 15f3e4b4da773b56ab952f5c805b9c2d8d0ac7ce Author: Petr Šabata Date: Thu Jul 18 18:08:30 2013 +0200 Disable the SO_REUSEPORT test; koji builders don't support this feature yet IO-Socket-IP-so_reuseport.patch | 12 perl-IO-Socket-IP.spec |7 ++- 2 files

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: X2Go - Reviewers needed

On 07/16/2013 05:11 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed Self Contained Change: X2Go = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/X2Go Change owner(s): Orion Poplawski The X2Go [1] project has taken over development of the old NX libraries and has developed new clients and server code around it.

[perl-Crypt-Twofish] 2.17 bump

commit b6ffb8eecc682c0cf50230405d1625717735ea5c Author: Petr Písař Date: Thu Jul 18 18:06:49 2013 +0200 2.17 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-Crypt-Twofish.spec | 19 +-- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) ---

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Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:23:33PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > What's inappropriate is giving instructions to others what they can, > or can not say. Even better would be to take this sort of stuff off list asap. -- Regards, Olav -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://ad

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On 07/18/2013 03:55 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 09:51:32AM -0600, Eric Smith wrote: What I thought you asked was how to read Linux log files from a Windows installation, e.g., when Linux fails to boot. In the past I've been able to do that using ext2fsd without much diffic

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 09:51:32AM -0600, Eric Smith wrote: > What I thought you asked was how to read Linux log files from a > Windows installation, e.g., when Linux fails to boot. In the past > I've been able to do that using ext2fsd without much difficulty. I > used that method when I wasn't ab

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:56 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > >> > Oh how do you get your logs to read in windows from your lvm/ext4/btrfs >> > filesystems currently in a disk boot scenario? >> >> Using ext2fsd: >> http://www.ext2fsd.com >> > > ... I'd suggest you read that page and then look at

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Vagrant

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 09:27:43AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > There is one missing method in upstream YAJL in comparison to > bundled version. I am afraid we cannot move forward without upstream > interaction :/ It looks like upstream was previously responsive but isn't to this one for some reaso

Multirelease effort: Moving to Python 3

Hi all, as a new Fedora Python maintainer, I have set myself a goal of moving Fedora to Python 3 as a default. This is going to be a multirelease effort that is going to affect lots of Fedora parts. Since we will need to switch default package manager from Yum to DNF (which is supposed to work w

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Steve Clark wrote: > On 07/18/2013 08:09 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Wed, 17.07.13 22:35, Ding Yi Chen (dc...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > This should be simpler than forcing those stubborn mind (such as me) to > change, > No? > > We don't force anyone. Y

[perl-IO-Socket-SSL] Rebuilt for perl 5.18

commit 715fbf7cf8cce61d1d12399053fcbf8dbd573827 Author: Jochen Schmitt Date: Thu Jul 18 17:11:29 2013 +0200 Rebuilt for perl 5.18 perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec b/perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec index

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

> From: scl...@netwolves.com > > On 07/18/2013 08:09 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 17.07.13 22:35, Ding Yi Chen (dc...@redhat.com) wrote: > > This should be simpler than forcing those stubborn mind (such as me)to change, > No? > > We don't force anyone. You can just install rsyslog

Re: Virtual provides for files in /var/log

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 02:19:30PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > So, you suggest using "Requires: /var/log/messages" and "Provides: > /var/log/messages" as indication for this, and the %ghost > /var/log/messages in the packages in question? > Sounds good to me! Matthew? My main concern with t

[perl-Net-SMTP-SSL] REbuilt to perl 5.18

commit 2ff4c38eeca6f7fc859ba9c0b5463b520798ddbb Author: Jochen Schmitt Date: Thu Jul 18 17:02:39 2013 +0200 REbuilt to perl 5.18 perl-Net-SMTP-SSL.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Net-SMTP-SSL.spec b/perl-Net-SMTP-SSL.spec index c23

[perl-Class-ErrorHandler] 0.02 bump

commit afbacc6001dd6c8decf3944dff55cc2eb38fe54d Author: Petr Písař Date: Thu Jul 18 16:56:30 2013 +0200 0.02 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-Class-ErrorHandler.spec | 25 + sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 23 insertions(+)

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On 07/18/2013 08:09 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 17.07.13 22:35, Ding Yi Chen (dc...@redhat.com) wrote: This should be simpler than forcing those stubborn mind (such as me) to change, No? We don't force anyone. You can just install rsyslog and you have everything as you love it. Lenn

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[perl-MIME-tools] Rebuilt for perl 5.18

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Re: Fixing proxy support in Fedora (was Re: Orphaning few packages)

2013/7/18 David Woodhouse > On Fri, 2013-06-07 at 01:19 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:55 PM, David Woodhouse > wrote: > > > On Wed, 2013-06-05 at 12:08 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > > >> libproxy taken. > > > > > > I'm also very interested in libproxy. Would you

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Thu, 18.07.13 14:56, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mail...@laposte.net) wrote: > > In the default output we stay true to the formatting that has been used > > in /var/log/messages since always. > > > > We currently do not use the ISO date format anywhere, it's not really > > readable, I think. > >

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Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 29

Greeting! This is a summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes by FESCo for week 29 (2013-07-17 meeting). = System Wide Changes = * Fedora 20 Boost 1.54 Uplift - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F20Boost154 announced on 2013-07-08 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-July/18492

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On 07/18/2013 01:30 PM, Chris Adams wrote: However, as I've said repeatedly, your "yum whatprovides" check is flat wrong, and so is your repeated 550-600 components claim. If you look at the number of packages that provide something in /var/log (rather than your bogus "number of entries under /v

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On 07/17/2013 03:35 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 03:30:20PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:56:45AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: Is there a way to read binary journals from non-Linux OSes? Compiling journalctl on UINXy OSes should not b

Re: Virtual provides for files in /var/log

On Thu, 18.07.13 15:47, Panu Matilainen (pmati...@laiskiainen.org) wrote: > >>I would suggest it, but it is not recommended by guidelines :( so I > >>suggest some (not yet) standardized virtual provide, which will be > >>more descriptive than "syslog-files" > >> > >>Vít > >> > >>[1] https://fedora

Re: Fixing proxy support in Fedora (was Re: Orphaning few packages)

On Fri, 2013-06-07 at 01:19 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:55 PM, David Woodhouse wrote: > > On Wed, 2013-06-05 at 12:08 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > >> libproxy taken. > > > > I'm also very interested in libproxy. Would you mind if I comaintain it? > > Please reque

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

Once upon a time, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" said: > Currently we are shipping around 550 - 600 components that ship > services/daemons most but probably not all can use syslog but may > not be configured to do so which may or may not be affect by the act > of changing to binary logger I guess depend

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

> From: mzerq...@0pointer.de > > On Wed, 17.07.13 11:48, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > john.flor...@dart.biz (john.flor...@dart.biz) said: > > > > You can provide binary path (_EXE=) by ”journalctl /usr/sbin/sshd”. > > > > > > Yes, but that's of little help with applicati

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

Le Mar 16 juillet 2013 18:42, Lennart Poettering a écrit : > On Tue, 16.07.13 18:09, Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:43:04PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> > On Tue, 16.07.13 09:42, Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) wrote: >> > >> > > > journalctl only s

Re: Virtual provides for files in /var/log

On 07/18/2013 03:28 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 18.07.13 14:23, Vít Ondruch (vondr...@redhat.com) wrote: Dne 18.7.2013 14:19, Lennart Poettering napsal(a): On Thu, 18.07.13 10:34, Vít Ondruch (vondr...@redhat.com) wrote: Dne 18.7.2013 01:02, Lennart Poettering napsal(a): So, maybe

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Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 14:17 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > I believe openSUSE 12.3 does not install syslog anymore either. (I > think > > they decided they did not want to log everything twice? :) Fedora's > > following this time. Hm OK. They definitely dropped it from the default install la

F20 Self Contained Change: Enlightenment

= Proposed Self Contained Change: Enlightenment = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Enlightenment Change owner(s): Rahul Sundaram , Christopher Meng , Dan Mashal Enlightenment 0.17 a new stable release has been released after 12 years or so of development. As many desktops are being lande

Re: Virtual provides for files in /var/log

On Thu, 18.07.13 14:23, Vít Ondruch (vondr...@redhat.com) wrote: > Dne 18.7.2013 14:19, Lennart Poettering napsal(a): > >On Thu, 18.07.13 10:34, Vít Ondruch (vondr...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > >>Dne 18.7.2013 01:02, Lennart Poettering napsal(a): > >>>So, maybe, instead of dropping the "Provides sys

Re: Virtual provides for files in /var/log

Dne 18.7.2013 14:19, Lennart Poettering napsal(a): On Thu, 18.07.13 10:34, Vít Ondruch (vondr...@redhat.com) wrote: Dne 18.7.2013 01:02, Lennart Poettering napsal(a): So, maybe, instead of dropping the "Provides syslog" thing from journald, maybe we should add an explicit "syslog-files" depend

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Remove deprecated calls of using ntpdate in favor of ntpd

>> > Once upon a time, Jaroslav Reznik said: >> >> ntpdate is slowly being depricated. STIG enhancements for RHEL 6 penalize >> >> systems that make use of ntpdate. Also documentation from the NSA >> >> Hardening >> >> Guidelines as well as CIS Hardening documentation recommends disabling the >> >

Re: Virtual provides for files in /var/log

On Thu, 18.07.13 10:34, Vít Ondruch (vondr...@redhat.com) wrote: > Dne 18.7.2013 01:02, Lennart Poettering napsal(a): > >So, maybe, instead of dropping the "Provides syslog" thing from > >journald, maybe we should add an explicit "syslog-files" dependency (or > >something named like that) and then

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Wed, 17.07.13 23:36, Michael Catanzaro (mike.catanz...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 14:58 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > We ask this constantly on Fedora. Because Fedora is where innovation is > > supposed to take place, not where things are stay frozen in carbonite > > forev

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Remove deprecated calls of using ntpdate in favor of ntpd

- Original Message - > On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Chris Adams wrote: > > > Once upon a time, Jaroslav Reznik said: > >> ntpdate is slowly being depricated. STIG enhancements for RHEL 6 penalize > >> systems that make use of ntpdate. Also documentation from the NSA > >> Hardening > >> Guidelines

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

On Wed, 17.07.13 22:35, Ding Yi Chen (dc...@redhat.com) wrote: > This should be simpler than forcing those stubborn mind (such as me) to > change, > No? We don't force anyone. You can just install rsyslog and you have everything as you love it. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -

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