Re: [HEADSUP] Atlas changed libraries

2013-09-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Susi Lehtola wrote: > OpenBLAS, ATLAS, ACML and MKL only ship one monolitchic library, so this > is not really an option. FYI, the author of netlib-java filed an issue with OpenBLAS for that: https://github.com/xianyi/OpenBLAS/issues/296 Unfortunately, upstream is reluctant to change this because

Re: Using USB 3 plugs crashes Gnome

2013-09-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 20:53 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > Digimer wrote: > >In > >a couple of occasions, if I leave it long enough, the windows would > >start responding to a limited amount, but they would all be jammed up > >to the top-left corner, have no windows and can't be moved or given > >fo

Re: Intent to retire python-jinja

2013-09-25 Thread Daniel Drake
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Thomas Moschny wrote: > See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Done Daniel -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.

Fedora ARM Status Meeting Minutes 2013-09-25

2013-09-25 Thread Paul Whalen
Thanks to those that were able to join us for the status meeting today, for those unable the minutes are posted below: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-09-25/fedora-meeting-1.2013-09-25-20.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/

Re: packaging guidelines again

2013-09-25 Thread Reindl Harald
oh, and in fact there are *a lot of more* processes typically running as long living process directly after login which should be hardened too may i suggest Fedora ban "prelink" which is always the excuse and harden the complete distribution at least on x86_64 the performance impact is outside ge

Re: [HEADSUP] Atlas changed libraries

2013-09-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Frantisek Kluknavsky wrote: > People with interest in secondary architectures might oppose that. Which architectures are the problem? OpenBLAS currently supports: | 2. Supported Architecture | |X86 : Pentium3 Katmai |Coppermine | Athlon (not well optimized, thou

Re: How to properly depreciate a package that will be provided by another (trustedqsl/tqsllib)

2013-09-25 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Richard Shaw wrote: > > Thanks for the clarification Kevin... On a related note, the guidelines > > say I should only retire a package that's not released since the package > > can not get removed from released versions, so in this case I'm th

Re: How to properly depreciate a package that will be provided by another (trustedqsl/tqsllib)

2013-09-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Richard Shaw wrote: > Thanks for the clarification Kevin... On a related note, the guidelines > say I should only retire a package that's not released since the package > can not get removed from released versions, so in this case I'm thinking > that would be f20 and rawhide. Right. > As to the o

Re: Using USB 3 plugs crashes Gnome

2013-09-25 Thread Digimer
On 25/09/13 12:07, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: > On 09/25/2013 12:14 AM, Digimer wrote: > >> I can't imagine why USB 3 would effect this, but there you go. Any >> advice on debugging? > > Déjà-vu: > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-August/188273.html > I honestly forgot about

Re: Using USB 3 plugs crashes Gnome

2013-09-25 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
On 09/25/2013 12:14 AM, Digimer wrote: > I can't imagine why USB 3 would effect this, but there you go. Any > advice on debugging? Déjà-vu: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-August/188273.html -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/m

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Luke Macken wrote: > dnf is written in Python, so I don't think that'll be possible. The > roadmap for 2.0 is apparently going to involve porting to Python3, which > will most likely help with the memory usage, but not with the > installation size. We should be defaulting to some other Hawkey (or

Re: Review swap: python-qpid_messaging

2013-09-25 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 06:40:34PM +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: > On 25.09.2013 18:25, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > >I'm willing to do a review swap if someone will review > >python-qpid_messaging: > > > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1012077 > > > > > Hi, > > I'll do it for perl-Parse-Deb

[389-devel] 389-ds-base_Debian_Wheezy - Build # 46 - Fixed!

2013-09-25 Thread nkinder
389-ds-base_Debian_Wheezy - Build # 46 - Fixed: See attached build log for details. build.log Description: Binary data -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-devel

Re: Using USB 3 plugs crashes Gnome

2013-09-25 Thread Björn Persson
Digimer wrote: >In >a couple of occasions, if I leave it long enough, the windows would >start responding to a limited amount, but they would all be jammed up >to the top-left corner, have no windows and can't be moved or given >focus (so I can only interact with the windows I can see part of). Th

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-25 Thread Björn Persson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Eric H. Christensen wrote: >Authentication is based on WEP/WPA/WPA2 passphrase, possibly a MAC >address (BSSID), and 802.1 authentication. I guess you refer to using 802.1X with an EAP method that provides mutual authentication, authenticating both

Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting 2013-09-25

2013-09-25 Thread Paul Whalen
Good day all, Please join us today (Wednesday, September 25th) at 4PM EDT (8PM UTC) for the Fedora ARM weekly status meeting in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. On the agenda so far.. 1) Kernel Status Update 2) Aarch64 - Status Update - Koji 3) F20 Beta Goals & Challenges 4) Open Flo

Re: Default boot/root filesystem

2013-09-25 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 09/25/2013 01:29 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Ric Wheeler wrote: You should - and can - easily test your workload with your hardware/software stack to see if the options make a difference. Of course I can, but the issue is comparison. I can run tests all day long that may not stress the

[Bug 1012103] please update perlIO::Async to version 0.60

2013-09-25 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1012103 kc8...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|unspecified |low Hardware|Unspecified

Re: Default boot/root filesystem

2013-09-25 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Ric Wheeler wrote: You should - and can - easily test your workload with your hardware/software stack to see if the options make a difference. Of course I can, but the issue is comparison. I can run tests all day long that may not stress the one area people are hitting that disuade them from w

[Bug 1012103] New: please update perlIO::Async to version 0.60

2013-09-25 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1012103 Bug ID: 1012103 Summary: please update perlIO::Async to version 0.60 Product: Fedora Version: 19 Component: perl-IO-Async Assignee: emman...@seyman.fr Reporter: kc8...@gmai

Re: Default boot/root filesystem

2013-09-25 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 09/25/2013 12:48 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Chris Murphy wrote: https://patrick-nagel.net/blog/archives/337 He provides no reliable testing method. I don't consider his results to be scientific or useful. One blogger will not be enough evidence. You should - and can - easily test y

Re: Default boot/root filesystem

2013-09-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 25, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Chris Murphy wrote: >> https://patrick-nagel.net/blog/archives/337 > > He provides no reliable testing method. I don't consider his results to be > scientific or useful. One blogger will not be enough evidence. You say that as if it'

Re: Default boot/root filesystem

2013-09-25 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Chris Murphy wrote: https://patrick-nagel.net/blog/archives/337 He provides no reliable testing method. I don't consider his results to be scientific or useful. One blogger will not be enough evidence. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailma

Build package with latest translation for l10n testing

2013-09-25 Thread Ani Peter
Hello Fedora package maintainers, Kindly build and push your packages with latest translation files (ie, pull the latest translations from Transifex/Zanata) by FRIDAY 2013-09-27, for Fedora 20 L10n test scheduled on 2013-10-03 (Thursday). The packages with latest translations can thus be used

Re: Review swap: python-qpid_messaging

2013-09-25 Thread Sandro Mani
On 25.09.2013 18:25, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: I'm willing to do a review swap if someone will review python-qpid_messaging: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1012077 Hi, I'll do it for perl-Parse-DebControl [1]. Thanks, Sandro [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=100999

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2013-09-26 16:00 UTC)

2013-09-25 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2013-09-26 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2013-09-26 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2013-09-26 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2013-09-26 1

Re: Default boot/root filesystem

2013-09-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Chris Murphy wrote: >> So as it turns out some devices get really busy and slow down when TRIM is >> used, so not all devices are well suited for discard and therefore it's >> probably not a good idea for it to be set by default. It's a

Review swap: python-qpid_messaging

2013-09-25 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
I'm willing to do a review swap if someone will review python-qpid_messaging: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1012077 -- Darryl L. Pierce http://mcpierce.fedorapeople.org/ "What do you care what people think, Mr. Feynman?" pgp1TszbUo8eW.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mai

Re: Default boot/root filesystem

2013-09-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 25, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Ric Wheeler wrote: > On 09/25/2013 10:48 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:12 AM, Ric Wheeler wrote: >>> We should not confuse TRIM that gets handled at the device layer (and is a >>> slow, non-queued S-ATA command for example) and a dm-thin parsing

[Bug 914307] perl-PDL: FTBFS in rawhide

2013-09-25 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=914307 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|jples...@redhat.com |ppi...@redhat.com Flags|needin

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-25 Thread P J P
    Hello Adam, - Original Message - > From: Adam Williamson > Subject: Re: About F19 Firewall > > That's ironic: just yesterday - without having yet read this discussion > - I used the firewalld on my laptop to lock down the 'public' zone to > allow nothing at all (not mdns or ssh), make

Re: Default boot/root filesystem

2013-09-25 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Chris Murphy wrote: So as it turns out some devices get really busy and slow down when TRIM is used, so not all devices are well suited for discard and therefore it's probably not a good idea for it to be set by default. It's also not enabled by default for ssds with btrfs either. And with dm-

Re: Default boot/root filesystem

2013-09-25 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 09/25/2013 10:48 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:12 AM, Ric Wheeler wrote: We should not confuse TRIM that gets handled at the device layer (and is a slow, non-queued S-ATA command for example) and a dm-thin parsing of that same command in software which just updates the meta

Re: Default boot/root filesystem

2013-09-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:12 AM, Ric Wheeler wrote: > We should not confuse TRIM that gets handled at the device layer (and is a > slow, non-queued S-ATA command for example) and a dm-thin parsing of that > same command in software which just updates the metadata that dm-thin > maintains. Yes, fa

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-09-25)

2013-09-25 Thread Tomas Mraz
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Today at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '-MM-DD HH:MM UTC' Links to all tickets below ca

GNOME 3.10.0 megaupdate

2013-09-25 Thread Kalev Lember
Hi all, GNOME 3.10.0 release is this week and we're going to collect all the builds together and filing them as a single Bodhi megaupdate for F20. As usual, the spreadsheet for collecting all the builds together is at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtzJKpbiGX1zdGJzeU9waFJFZmgyQzBuN

Re: Default boot/root filesystem

2013-09-25 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 09/24/2013 10:25 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sep 24, 2013, at 7:34 PM, William Brown wrote: Additionally, with the concerns re device shrink. Yes, XFS won't let you shrink, but with thin provision LVM that isn't so much an issue: You just shrink the pv and leave it alone. I would also argue t

Re: Intent to retire python-jinja

2013-09-25 Thread Thomas Moschny
2013/9/23 Daniel Drake : > olpc-library just got obsoleted (nothing uses it now, the > functionality got moved elsewhere), so if you could point me at how to > drop this package from rawhide I will get it out of your way. See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life T

Re: systemd journal interaction with btrfs, unfixable corruption

2013-09-25 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 09/25/2013 06:35 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > There are some reports of VM images on btrfs being corrupted somehow > (although I don't think it's related to balance, I could be wrong), > and the solution is to set VM images to nodatacow. So I wonder if > there's some behavior of systemd journaling

Re: Ananconda

2013-09-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 19:12 +0100, Phil Dobbin wrote: > Hi, all. > > I was wondering as to why Ananconda has no facility to overwrite a > distro already present on the target machine. I've studied it & apart > from destroying the existing partition with GParted there seems to be no > other way

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 20:33 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 12:40:15AM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > > >> Anyone can broadcast an SSID. How does FirewallD authenticate the > > >> network connection? > > >FirewallD is not responsible for such authentication/AP validation. > >

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 03:05 +0800, P J P wrote: >Yes, I understand the functionality, but I doubt if it'll be used > at all. It's not desktop background that people would want to change > everyday. That's ironic: just yesterday - without having yet read this discussion - I used the firewalld