EPEL epel beta report: 20140612 changes

2014-06-12 Thread EPEL Beta Report
Compose started at Thu Jun 12 08:15:03 UTC 2014

New package: gksu-polkit-0.0.3-10.gitf8ce834c.el7
 Command line utility to run programs as root

New package: mingw-glib-networking-2.38.2-2.el7
 MinGW Windows glib-networking library

New package: mingw-qt5-qt3d-5.0.0-0.12.git20140525.bdb98ba.el7
 Qt5 for Windows - Qt3d component

New package: mingw-qt5-qtdeclarative-5.3.0-2.el7
 Qt5 for Windows - QtDeclarative component

New package: mingw-qt5-qtlocation-5.3.0-2.el7
 Qt5 for Windows - QtLocation component

New package: mingw-qt5-qtmultimedia-5.3.0-2.el7
 Qt5 for Windows - QtMultimedia component

New package: mingw-qt5-qtquick1-5.3.0-2.el7
 Qt5 for Windows - QtQuick1 component

New package: mingw-qt5-qtsensors-5.3.0-2.el7
 Qt5 for Windows - QtSensors component

New package: mingw-qt5-qtsystems-5.0.0-0.14.git20140323.3f65ffa.el7
 Qt5 for Windows - QtSystems component

New package: mingw-qt5-qtwebkit-5.3.0-2.el7
 Qt5 for Windows - QtWebKit component

New package: mingw-webkitgtk-2.2.7-2.el7
 MinGW Windows web content engine library

New package: mingw-webkitgtk3-2.2.7-2.el7
 MinGW Windows GTK+ Web content engine library

New package: php-mikey179-vfsstream-1.2.0-2.el7
 PHP stream wrapper for a virtual file system

New package: qfaxreader-0.3.2-2.el7
 A multipage monochrome/color TIFF/FAX viewer

New package: tor-0.2.4.22-2.el7
 Anonymizing overlay network for TCP (The onion router)


Updated Packages:

cinnamon-2.0.14-18.el7
--
* Wed Jun 11 2014 Leigh Scott leigh123li...@googlemail.com - 2.0.14-18
- more X-Cinnamon changes

* Wed Jun 11 2014 Leigh Scott leigh123li...@googlemail.com - 2.0.14-17
- switch to X-Cinnamon


cinnamon-control-center-2.0.9-6.el7
---
* Wed Jun 11 2014 Leigh Scott leigh123li...@googlemail.com - 2.0.9-6
- make cinnamon-nenu adjustments

* Wed Jun 11 2014 Leigh Scott leigh123li...@googlemail.com - 2.0.9-5
- switch to X-Cinnamon


cinnamon-menus-2.2.0-2.el7
--
* Sat Jun 07 2014 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 2.2.0-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Mass_Rebuild

* Sat Apr 12 2014 Leigh Scott leigh123li...@googlemail.com - 2.2.0-1
- update to 2.2.0


cinnamon-screensaver-2.0.3-2.el7

* Wed Jun 11 2014 Leigh Scott leigh123li...@googlemail.com - 2.0.3-2
- switch to X-Cinnamon


cinnamon-session-2.0.6-2.el7

* Wed Jun 11 2014 Leigh Scott leigh123li...@googlemail.com - 2.0.6-2
- switch to X-Cinnamon


cinnamon-settings-daemon-2.0.8-8.el7

* Wed Jun 11 2014 Leigh Scott leigh123li...@googlemail.com - 2.0.8-8
- switch to X-Cinnamon


erlang-R16B-03.7.el7

* Wed Jun 11 2014 Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com - R16B-03.7
- Added missing template for epmd@.socket


hiera-1.3.4-1.el7
-
* Wed Jun 11 2014 Steve Traylen steve.tray...@cern.ch - 1.3.4-1
- New version 1.3.4

* Sat Jun 07 2014 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.3.3-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Mass_Rebuild


mcollective-2.5.2-1.el7
---
* Wed Jun 11 2014 Steve Traylen steve.tray...@cern.ch - 2.5.2-1
- Upstream 2.5.2

* Sat Jun 07 2014 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 2.4.1-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Mass_Rebuild


nemo-2.0.8-10.el7
-
* Wed Jun 11 2014 Leigh Scott leigh123li...@googlemail.com - 2.0.8-10
- switch to X-Cinnamon


perl-Date-Easter-1.21-1.el7
---
* Thu Jun 12 2014 David Dick dd...@cpan.org - 1.21-1
- Upgrade to 1.21

* Sat Jun 07 2014 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.20-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Mass_Rebuild


php-symfony-icu-1.2.1-3.el7
---
* Wed Jun 11 2014 Shawn Iwinski shawn.iwin...@gmail.com - 1.2.1-3
- Added php-composer(%{composer_vendor}/%{composer_project}) virtual provide

* Sat Jun 07 2014 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.2.1-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Mass_Rebuild


piglit-1-0.19.20140414GIT8775223.el7

* Wed Jun 11 2014 Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com - 1-0.19.20140414GIT8775223
- Add ExcludeArch for EPEL-6 and ppc64 properly (RHBZ# 1093720)

* Sat Jun 07 2014 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1-0.18.20140414GIT8775223
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Mass_Rebuild


qpid-cpp-0.28-3.el7
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* Tue Jun 10 2014 Darryl L. Pierce dpie...@redhat.com - 0.28-3
- Fixes alignment issues on ARM platforms.
- Resolves: BZ#1106272

* Sat Jun 07 2014 Peter Robinson 

EPEL Fedora 6 updates-testing report

2014-06-12 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 6 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 782  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5620/bugzilla-3.4.14-2.el6
 129  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0440/fwsnort-1.6.4-1.el6
 114  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0590/oath-toolkit-2.0.2-4.el6
  73  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1011/php-ZendFramework-1.12.5-1.el6
  27  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1414/gajim-0.14.4-4.el6
  22  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1471/chicken-4.8.0.6-2.el6
  19  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1477/drupal7-views-3.8-1.el6
  15  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1522/check-mk-1.2.4p2-2.el6
  13  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1536/xmlsec1-1.2.19-3.el6
   9  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1563/mono-2.10.8-2.el6,libgdiplus-2.10-1.el6
   7  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1572/chkrootkit-0.49-9.el6
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1584/python-djblets-0.7.30-2.el6
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1616/puppet-2.7.26-1.el6
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1627/php-horde-Horde-Ldap-2.1.0-1.el6
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1608/mcollective-2.2.3-2.el6
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1612/tor-0.2.4.22-1.el6
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1628/hiera-1.0.0-4.el6
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1634/python-django-evolution-0.6.9-4.el6


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 6 updates-testing

cgit-0.10.1-4.el6
packagedb-cli-2.3.1-1.el6
perl-Date-Easter-1.21-1.el6
php-mikey179-vfsstream-1.2.0-2.el6
ptpd-2.3.0-2.el6
python-click-2.0-2.el6
python-django-evolution-0.6.9-4.el6
rubygem-mixlib-log-1.6.0-1.el6
salt-2014.1.5-1.el6
wicd-1.7.0-5.el6

Details about builds:



 cgit-0.10.1-4.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1640)
 A fast web interface for git

Update Information:

Add patch to fix raw patch handling

ChangeLog:

* Wed Jun 11 2014 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com 0.10.1-4
- Add patch to fix raw patch handling
* Sat Jun  7 2014 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 0.10.1-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Mass_Rebuild




 packagedb-cli-2.3.1-1.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1638)
 A CLI for pkgdb

Update Information:

Update to 2.3.1

* Fixes to bugs reported on bugzilla
* Add to pkgdb2client a method to retrieve the version of the pkgdb API
* Add to pgkdb2client a method to retrieve a packager's packages
* Have pkgdb-cli list --user rely on the new pkgdb2 API endpoint (if present)
* pkgdb-cli list --user returns all the packages unless asked otherwise (which
  is what it used to do w/ pkgdb1)
* Add the pkgdb2client the possibility to save the session to a file
  ~/.cache/pkgdb-session.pickle by default
* Add a login_callback method to pkgdb2client
* Fix asking for password only if required (ie: not provided via --password)
* Add support for on-demand authentication
* Order the user in the ACL output
* Order the ACL output per branch


ChangeLog:

* Thu Jun 12 2014 Pierre-Yves Chibon pin...@pingoured.fr - 2.3.1-1
- Update to 2.3.1
- Fixes https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1108634 (orphaned branches may have no ACLs
  registered at all)
* Tue Jun 10 2014 Pierre-Yves Chibon pin...@pingoured.fr - 2.3-1
- Update to 2.3
- Add to pkgdb2client a method to retrieve the version of the pkgdb API
- Add to pgkdb2client a method to retrieve a packager's packages
- Have pkgdb-cli list --user rely on the new pkgdb2 API endpoint (if present)
- pkgdb-cli list --user returns all the packages unless asked otherwise (which
  is what it used to do w/ pkgdb1)
- Add the pkgdb2client the possibility to save the session to a file
  ~/.cache/pkgdb-session.pickle by default
- Add a login_callback method to pkgdb2client
- Fix asking for password only if required (ie: not provided via --password)
- Add support for on-demand authentication
- Order the user in the ACL output
- Order the ACL output per branch
* Fri Jun  6 2014 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 2.2-3
- Rebuilt for 

EPEL Fedora 5 updates-testing report

2014-06-12 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 5 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 782  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5630/bugzilla-3.2.10-5.el5
 236  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11893/libguestfs-1.20.12-1.el5
 116  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0581/augeas-1.2.0-1.el5
  15  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1515/check-mk-1.2.4p2-2.el5
  12  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1544/python26-mod_wsgi-3.5-1.el5,mod_wsgi-3.5-1.el5
   7  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1575/chkrootkit-0.49-9.el5
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1626/puppet-2.7.26-1.el5


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 5 updates-testing

salt-2014.1.5-1.el5

Details about builds:



 salt-2014.1.5-1.el5 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1642)
 A parallel remote execution system

Update Information:

Update to bugfix release 2014.1.5

ChangeLog:

* Wed Jun 11 2014 Erik Johnson e...@saltstack.com - 2014.1.5-1
- Update to bugfix release 2014.1.5


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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Jan Zelený
On 11. 6. 2014 at 15:03:12, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
 On 06/11/2014 11:20 AM, Jan Zelený wrote:
  The transition period is one reason why we want to keep the name dnf. 
We'd
  basically like to keep current yum around for users that have various
  scripts and stuff depending on it so they have some time to migrate to
  dnf.
 I think this is a mistake---if dns truly provides the functionality then
 it should replace yum. Hopefully the majority of people can use dnf as
 is, but if there are corner cases that only the original yum handles,
 then it's better to make it available as, say, 'yum-original' or 'yum
 --yum-me-harder'.

As I said on numerous occasions during the last few days, dnf is not a 100% 
drop-in replacement of yum. It aims to be as compatible as possible but within 
reason - one of the important goals of dnf is clean and maintainable design.

 It boils down to this: someone is going to be inconvenienced. I argue
 it's better to inconvenience the minority with special 'yum' needs by
 making them use the 'yum-old' alias, rather than inconveniencing the
 majority by making everyone switch their scripts and fingers to 'dnf'.

As I said, we will have transition layer so using yum in your shell scripts 
will still work for a few more releases. A vast majority of users should not 
experience any inconveniences other than different output on the command 
line.

Thanks
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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Jan Zelený
On 11. 6. 2014 at 18:53:36, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
 2014-06-11 15:02 GMT+02:00 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com:
  I strongly agree with this for practical reasons.  There is no good
  rationale for moving away from yum as the name of the command 
except some
  of the command line changes which happened with yum anyway 
(download only
  was added and later removed for example) and one can warn specifically 
for
  those.
 
 Yeah, if the compatibility is there, it should *just be there*.  Software
 is here to server users, so the appropriate thing to do on (yum update) is
 to update the system, not to use this as an appropriate moment to
 essentially advertise users about a new project or about our achievements
 (even though the dnf project *is* an achievement, don’t get me wrong).
 
 It makes sense to only add new features to the (dnf) command, or to
 warn/fail when the yum compatibility doesn’t actually exist. But when the
 compatibility exists, the right thing for the users is to just do what was
 asked, no questions asked.

And indeed it will do what you asked it to do. You will just receive warning 
that yum is no more and the command should not be used. Again, it's exactly 
the same what happens when you call service XYZ start and in my opinion it 
works like a charm. If not for this warning, I'd never learned about 
systemctl.

 (Structurally, this would also allow you to separate the compatibility UI
 hacks in /usr/bin/yum, keeping /usr/bin/dnf a bit more clean.)

We plan to have /usr/bin/yum as simple as possible. Just print out a warning 
and redirect to yum, something like that. As I wrote before, if you want it to 
do anything else, we welcome the patches.

Thanks
Jan
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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Jan Zelený
On 11. 6. 2014 at 18:09:25, Michael Scherer wrote:
 Le mercredi 11 juin 2014 à 11:37 -0400, Chuck Anderson a écrit :
  On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 05:21:30PM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote:
   On 11. 6. 2014 at 08:52:34, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 02:44:10PM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
 * package 'dnf-yum-compat-command' is installed by default. It
   
   obsoletes
   
 Yum and provides its own code/usr/bin/yum/code, a short 
script
   
   that
   
 redirects to code/usr/bin/dnf/code with an appropriate 
warning
 message that DNF is the preferred package manager now. Notice 
that
 upgrading F21 to F22 will not cause the compat package to be
 installed
   
   so
   
 will not disturb any upgrading users.

This is kind of sentimental, and I think possibly Seth would not have
liked
to have a big deal made of it, but... I guess I'm going to anyway. I
would
like to keep the yum name in remembrance of his contributions. 
This
also
seems like the easiest path for all of the documentation, scripts, and
user
habits out there. I don't mind if the backend package is called dnf,
but
why not keep /usr/bin/yum as the primary command and just do the 
right
thing, only warning on incompatible usage rather than nagging every
time it
is used?
   
   Actually the plan is to keep /usr/bin/yum as the primary command 
during
   the
   transition but it will do something similar to what the /sbin/service
   command does now. It will redirect to dnf and give user a message that
   it is redirecting to dnf.
   
   As for scripts, that's actually another reason why to keep yum around.
   Some
   scripts might not be able to handle some of the minor differences and
   some
   python scripts might still want to use the yum python API. That's why it
   makes sense to keep yum around for a few releases as a fallback.
  
  Have puppet, chef, ansible, salt, etc. been taught how to use dnf to
  install packages?  I think it would be a shame to force all this
  software to do s/yum/dnf/ or to have to conditionally code for these
  differences based on OS release or the presense of yum vs. dnf.  Why
  not just keep the command name the same with no nag message?
 
 I would expect puppet/chef to start using the library rather than direct
 access to the binary.
 
 And for ansible, I think the patch is quite simple, just add 2 lines.
 
 I guess we can start right now to get stuff merged.

Yes, you can either use dnf's well documented API [1] or you can use the 
libraries beneath it. That's one of the advantages of dnf. Its individual 
components were moved to external libraries and can be used by anyone, as 
few projects can already testify. The last piece that is missing and being 
worked on is a library wrapping dnf software database.

Thanks
Jan

[1] http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/api.html
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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Jan Zelený
On 11. 6. 2014 at 14:07:05, DJ Delorie wrote:
 Forcing the users to type a different command name to get exactly the
 same functionality only serves to annoy the user.

I'm sorry but at this point I feel I gotta ask: have you read my earlier 
replies?

Nothing will change for you, the yum command will still exist for a few more 
Fedora releases, just as the `service` command that was superseded by 
systemctl like 5 releases of Fedora ago exists.

Thanks
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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Jan Zelený
On 11. 6. 2014 at 18:55:37, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
 2014-06-11 16:08 GMT+02:00 drago01 drag...@gmail.com:
  That makes no sense. First of all if it obsoletes yum it will get
  pulled in during upgrades and imo it *should*. We don't really want to
  end up in a situation where half the users
  are using the default packing tool while the other half uses the old one.
 
 Precisely; such splits are always incredibly painful for everyone.
 
 Yes, it would require a more detailed contingency planning, but having
 upgraded and new systems use a different package manager by the same
 command name and the same scripts would be a troubleshooting nightmare.

We are open to ideas. I think in this situation there is no perfect way how to 
satisfy everyone. We have thought about this for several months. Renaming dnf 
back to yum might seem like the best option at first (it was our original plan 
too) but when you carefully and deeply think about this, keeping dnf and yum 
separate is really the least painful choice. So far I haven't seen a single 
strong argument against it that would satisfy needs of all the involved 
stakeholders.

Thanks
Jan
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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Jan Zelený jzel...@redhat.com wrote:
 On 11. 6. 2014 at 18:55:37, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
 2014-06-11 16:08 GMT+02:00 drago01 drag...@gmail.com:
  That makes no sense. First of all if it obsoletes yum it will get
  pulled in during upgrades and imo it *should*. We don't really want to
  end up in a situation where half the users
  are using the default packing tool while the other half uses the old one.

 Precisely; such splits are always incredibly painful for everyone.

 Yes, it would require a more detailed contingency planning, but having
 upgraded and new systems use a different package manager by the same
 command name and the same scripts would be a troubleshooting nightmare.

 We are open to ideas. I think in this situation there is no perfect way how to
 satisfy everyone. We have thought about this for several months. Renaming dnf
 back to yum might seem like the best option at first (it was our original plan
 too) but when you carefully and deeply think about this, keeping dnf and yum
 separate is really the least painful choice. So far I haven't seen a single
 strong argument against it that would satisfy needs of all the involved
 stakeholders.

Well having user that upgrade have a different package manager then
those who install new is not only not perfect but a no go.
Simple obsolete yum so that dnf gets pulled in on upgrades and have
rename the yum package to yum-legacy or something and have users that
want it for whatever reason install it by hand.
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Re: F21 System Wide Change: Fedora 21 Make 4.0 Update

2014-06-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Omair Majid oma...@redhat.com wrote:
 * Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com [2014-04-14 08:32]:
 = Proposed System Wide Change: Fedora 21 Make 4.0 Update =
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F21Make40

 == Detailed Description ==
 The purpose of this update is to synchronize Fedora with the most recent Make
 release.

 The contingency for this was supposed to trigger at the Mass Rebuild.
 However, koji tells me that the first time Make 4.0 was built in rawhide
 was during the Mass Rebuild [1] :(

 And of course, some of the changes in Make broke other programs. OpenJDK
 8, for example, currently fails to build because of this. It built for
 the mass rebuild (because make was not built until that point) but fails
 now.

 What's the plan here?

What fix do you propose for the Openjdk8 side of the problem? If
there's a number of packages that need to be rebuilt it'll need to
involve rel-eng and so I suggest if that's a course action a rel-eng
ticket with the make4 owners cc:ed, hopefully the feature owners will
pipe up here with a solution.

Peter
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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Miroslav Suchý

On 06/11/2014 06:13 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:

If the idea is interesting it does imply that each person having scripts
depending on yum has to:
* s/yum/yum-legacy/
   - Deploy to prod and run as before
* s/yum-legacy/dnf/
   - Test and ensure it has a consistent behavior w/ yum (that the script is not
 using any of the deprecated options, that there is no some surprises in 
some
 weird corners)


Nope. It means that once /usr/bin/yum become symlink (or wrapper) to dnf, then 
either:
1) nothing will change because dnf is mostly compatible will yum. I would say this will be behavior for majority of 
existing scripts.

2) your script use some corner case of yum and will become broken. And you 
either
   a) migrate immediately to DNF
   b) you (the-sysadmin) are lazy and put it on back-burner and do s/yum/yum-legacy/ and you have to do that work from 
a) anyway one year later.

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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 12.06.2014 10:51, schrieb Miroslav Suchý:
 b) you (the-sysadmin) are lazy and put it on back-burner 
 and do s/yum/yum-legacy/ and you have to do that work
 from a) anyway one year later

stop people calling lazy because they are not
accepting replacements which are not drop-in

Fedora would most likely not exist if the decades before Unix/Linux
would have changed it's behavior every few months - the we rename
and replace everything all few months and looking how to replace it
in a way everybody takes notice of our work is a more or less
new phenomenon, in the past developers where proud of keep
interface stability and the CLI is a user interface

you need to realize that if you pretend to build a operating
system the goal using a operating system for users is to build
their work on top of that and not play around with the operating
system all the time by looking which things are replaced or got
a new syntax



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Metainfo files for addons/plugins/extensions that extend desktop applications

2014-06-12 Thread Richard Hughes
Recently I added the addon component type to AppStream[1] which is an
XML standard that is used by Fedora and lots of other distros to
create metadata for various software center applications such as GNOME
Software and KDE's Apper.

By creating a metainfo.xml for each plugin, these are then shown next
to the main desktop application and allow the user to easily install
extra components in the UI. This is obviously important for projects
like eclipse and gedit, as without the extra packages (which don't
show up in the application-centric software center) the standalone
applications are not super useful.

I've written a blog post[2] about what upstream software needs to do
to integrate with the KDE and GNOME software centers, and I'd really
appreciate any feedback and help at this stage. Ideally these files
can be pushed upstream and then packaged like normal, or they can be
shipped in the srpm file like I did for gedit-code-assistance (which
is awaiting a new upstream release). I don't think many packages will
be affected, but I didn't want to catch any packagers by surprise when
new files start popping up.

If you want to contact me, either reply here or grab me on IRC -- I'm
hughsie on freenode and gimpnet.

Thanks,

Richard


[1] http://www.freedesktop.org/software/appstream/docs/
[2] 
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Re: Slipping F21

2014-06-12 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Tomasz Torcz [11/06/2014 23:20] :

   So we won't get 5.20 in stable Fedora for a year?

More or less (we don't have a schedule for F22 yet).

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EMEA sponsorship program for Flock

2014-06-12 Thread Jiri Eischmann
Hi,
the EMEA regional community decided yesterday to organize a small
sponsorship program for EMEA contributors who would like to attend Flock
2014 that is going to take place in Prague on Aug 6-9 and haven't
received (and will not receive) any sponsorship as speakers.

The overall amount of money allocated to the program is $2000. The
funding limit per contributor is $200. The number of sponsored people is
not limited and we will satisfy funding requests until we hit the limit
of $2000. Candidates that have been actively contributing to the Project
in the last year and have some work agenda for Flock (meeting team
mates, organizing a do session,...) will be given a priority.

The program is funded from the EMEA budget and is intended for
contributors from this region. Other regions are assessing their budget
situation and might come up with a similar program for their
contributors.

If you'd like to ask for a sponsorship, please file a ticket in the EMEA
trac [1], mention your recent contributions to the Project and reasons
why you want to attend Flock, and specify how much money you need
(remember the limit is $200).

The deadline is June 24 (12am UTC). The EMEA community has delegated the
decision making to FAmSCo, so FAmSCo will then pick the best candidates
if there are more requests than the available funding.

Jiri 

[1] https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/

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Re: rfc: xserver rebase in F20 (was Re: Slipping F21)

2014-06-12 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qua, 2014-06-11 at 23:36 +0200, Simone Caronni wrote: 
 Hello,
 
 
 On 11 June 2014 19:11, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:
   Hi, why not begin by a xserver rebase in copr ?
 
  Personally, because I don't feel like doing the work twice.
  But if
  someone else wants to, sure, go for it.
 
 I could do it, also think about do it for eclipse-swt , but my
 problem
 is I don't know what packages I have to update , is not just
 xorg-x11-server , have you a list what we should update for
 xorg-x11-server 15.x ? 
 
 
 Isn't this a rebuild already?
 
 http://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/jujuxiii/testing-fc20/
 http://copr-be.cloud.fedoraproject.org/results/jujuxiii/testing-fc20/fedora-20-x86_64/

it's a start , how is this jujuxiii ? looks like a Portuguese /
Brazilian name ...

 Also, any chance to see this applied in the rebuild?
 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1084433
 

why isn't also add to copr of jujuxiii 

 Thanks,
 
 --Simone

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Re: [fedora-arm] ExcludeArch tracker doesn't appear to be effective

2014-06-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Of the ones I know about ...

 avgtime

Written in the 'D' language which doesn't have support for ARM upstream.

 grub2

ARM (32 bit) boots using u-boot.  Aarch64 machines will boot using
grub2 (or is that grub2-efi? - you know better than I do :-)

 hfsplus-tools

As discussed in this thread.

 ocaml-cil
 ocaml-gsl

There are mature 32 bit and 64 bit ARM native backends for the OCaml
compiler.  I've worked on fixing some problems in both.

As for these two packages, CIL is actually fixed upstream, it just
needs to go into the Fedora package (see RHBZ#994968).  GSL depends on
a C library that contains lots of x86 assembler, and so basically
won't work without a lot of porting which no one has done yet.  There
is no BZ for this one, which there obviously should be.

 root

Discussed on this thread already.

 zfs-fuse

This is interesting because it's another package where libguestfs has
to %ifnarch %{arm} because the package is missing on ARM.

The reason it doesn't build is because this package uses an internal
library to provide atomic ops, and this library hasn't been ported to
ARM assembler (although there is a fallback path that uses
pthread_mutex(!)).

There is a BZ (RHBZ#996728) but it is not listed in the spec file.

 So, two conclusions from this:
 
 1) People are very bad at following policy here. The majority of the 
 packages that are marked ExcludeArch: arm are not in the tracker bug, 
 and most of those don't appear to have a bug filed at all.
 
 2) The rate at which things are being fixed appears to be uninfluenced 
 by (1) - the number of bugs on the tracker may have increased, but the 
 number of packages actually excluded on ARM hasn't. This means that I 
 was grossly overestimating how many packages were broken. I made an 
 assertion without collecting accurate data first, and came to the wrong 
 conclusion. I apologise for that.

But also:

(3) Out of 15000 packages, only about 100 don't build on ARM, and
there are at most 50 missing bugs to fully comply with policy.

Rich.

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Re: [fedora-arm] ExcludeArch tracker doesn't appear to be effective

2014-06-12 Thread Peter Robinson
 I pulled git and have the following for ExclusiveArch: %{arm}:

 joystick-support

While ARM doesn't have traditional joystick ports there have been some
people hook them up via GPIO and the like, enabled.

 mcollective-qpid-plugin
 perl-qpid

These were both legacy hangover from before qpid-gcc was fixed which
it has been for some time, now built on rawhide.
Both would likely not have been missed if there was appropriate BZ :-)

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Re: rfc: xserver rebase in F20 (was Re: Slipping F21)

2014-06-12 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hi, 
On Qua, 2014-06-11 at 12:40 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: 
 On Wed, 2014-06-11 at 17:19 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote:
  On Qua, 2014-06-11 at 12:09 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: 
   On Wed, 2014-06-11 at 17:56 +0200, drago01 wrote:
   
Oh and xserver  really .. I am the one that gets complaints from users
that I can't fix because of our ancient x11 stack.
   
   I'm not intrinsically _opposed_ to rebasing X in F20.  But it's not
   something we've done in any previous Fedora, and there are enough nvidia
   users out there that I'd want to be cautious about not breaking them
   more than we need to.
   
   If That Other Repo doesn't have a problem with getting builds lined up
   for nvidia/fglrx/whatever I'd be much more willing to do X rebases in
   existing releases.  

About the other repo rpmfusion, we just need some time on
updates-testing to rebuild all drives , but I can ask for more details
on rpmfusion mailing list .


 It's still tricky for things like the xwayland/gnome
   lockstep, but I think we know how to handle that.
  
  Hi, why not begin by a xserver rebase in copr ?
 
 Personally, because I don't feel like doing the work twice.  But if
 someone else wants to, sure, go for it.

the most important thing, for me, is understand what is your opinion (X
team) about testing Xserver 1.15 ,  It is worth testing Xserver 1.15, or
we should focus on 1.16 ?


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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Jan Zelený
  We are open to ideas. I think in this situation there is no perfect way
  how to satisfy everyone. We have thought about this for several months.
  Renaming dnf back to yum might seem like the best option at first (it was
  our original plan too) but when you carefully and deeply think about
  this, keeping dnf and yum separate is really the least painful choice. So
  far I haven't seen a single strong argument against it that would satisfy
  needs of all the involved stakeholders.
 
 Well having user that upgrade have a different package manager then
 those who install new is not only not perfect but a no go.
 Simple obsolete yum so that dnf gets pulled in on upgrades and have
 rename the yum package to yum-legacy or something and have users that
 want it for whatever reason install it by hand.

I think this is is alignment with what I said before - yum and dnf will still 
stay separated and dnf is not renamed. So if there is no argument against your 
proposal, we might as well give it a shot.

Thanks
Jan
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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Vít Ondruch

Dne 11.6.2014 20:18, Felix Miata napsal(a):

On 2014-06-11 14:07 (GMT-0400) DJ Delorie composed:


Forcing the users to type a different command name to get exactly the
same functionality only serves to annoy the user.


And in this particular case, the change is from a nice single finger 
word it's a two-hander, three finger.


Eh ... Writing DNF by both hands and 3 fingers should be faster then 
typing YUM by single finger. But if you are using just pointer fingers 
of your both hands, then I can understand your point ;)


BTW people who are using Czech or German keyboard layout would disagree 
with your argument anyway (hint: Y - Z).



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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 21 v2

2014-06-12 Thread Ales Ledvinka
python-gudev orphan, aledvink, sochotni 

Taken.
Anyone who did miss the opportunity and still want it? Just let me know.
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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Vít Ondruch

Dne 11.6.2014 17:20, Jan Zelený napsal(a):

On 11. 6. 2014 at 09:02:29, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Hi

On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Matthew Miller  wrote:

This is kind of sentimental, and I think possibly Seth would not have
liked
to have a big deal made of it, but... I guess I'm going to anyway. I would
like to keep the yum name in remembrance of his contributions. This

also

seems like the easiest path for all of the documentation, scripts, and
user
habits out there. I don't mind if the backend package is called dnf, but
why not keep /usr/bin/yum as the primary command and just do the right
thing, only warning on incompatible usage rather than nagging every

time

it
is used?

I strongly agree with this for practical reasons.  There is no good
rationale for moving away from yum as the name of the command except

some

of the command line changes which happened with yum anyway (download

only

was added and later removed for example) and one can warn specifically for
those.  The API changes are not something users care about.  Also, dnf
needs to drop all the legacy options before the transition (ie)  pick erase
or remove (preferably the latter) etc rather than retain all the
compatibility options.

The transition period is one reason why we want to keep the name dnf. We'd
basically like to keep current yum around for users that have various scripts
and stuff depending on it so they have some time to migrate to dnf.

Also presenting dnf as a separate project forked from yum gives us better
flexibility - for instance it's easier to drop obsoleted stuff because users
don't have that high compatibility expectations.

Thanks
Jan




I, for one, support this change as it was proposed.


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Re: [fedora-arm] ExcludeArch tracker doesn't appear to be effective

2014-06-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:58:55 +0100,
 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:

I pulled git and have the following for ExclusiveArch: %{arm}:

joystick-support


While ARM doesn't have traditional joystick ports there have been some
people hook them up via GPIO and the like, enabled.


Would these likely end up in joydev.ko or analog.ko? If there is some other 
module that would be used, I'd like to add it to the list.


joystick-support just makes sure the modules used for joysticks and 
gamepads are included (kernel-modules-extra is pulled in if needed) and 
loaded during boot by default. In theory people could do this manually 
without too much work, but the idea was to make it dead simple.


floppy-support works the same way, though currently floppy.ko is in 
kernel-modules. (But I expect it to move to kernel-modules-extra 
eventually.)

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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 02:10:22PM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote:
   We are open to ideas. I think in this situation there is no perfect way
   how to satisfy everyone. We have thought about this for several months.
   Renaming dnf back to yum might seem like the best option at first (it was
   our original plan too) but when you carefully and deeply think about
   this, keeping dnf and yum separate is really the least painful choice. So
   far I haven't seen a single strong argument against it that would satisfy
   needs of all the involved stakeholders.
  
  Well having user that upgrade have a different package manager then
  those who install new is not only not perfect but a no go.
  Simple obsolete yum so that dnf gets pulled in on upgrades and have
  rename the yum package to yum-legacy or something and have users that
  want it for whatever reason install it by hand.
 
 I think this is is alignment with what I said before - yum and dnf will still 
 stay separated and dnf is not renamed. So if there is no argument against 
 your 
 proposal, we might as well give it a shot.

The arguments against renaming the command have been given.  The dnf
command should either be renamed back to yum, or there should be
permanent backwards compatibility via a script, symlink, etc.  There
is NO good reason to force everyone to change scripts and command line
habits just for the sake of changing the name of a command that is an
almost 100% compatible evolution of the older command.  Call the
package dnf and obsolete the yum package, rename the old yum package
to yum-legacy--fine.  But please make yum install etc. still work
with dnf.

And if those arguments aren't convincing enough, the second best
option, if you MUST change the name of the command, is to change it
ONCE to something PERMANENT that never changes ever again.  Something
generic like package-manager or pkgman.  A name like dnf isn't
really helpful as part of the system command language API.  It is
obscure lore that contributes to making Linux harder to learn.  (So is
yum but that ship has sailed.)
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Re: [fedora-arm] ExcludeArch tracker doesn't appear to be effective

2014-06-12 Thread Dennis Gilmore
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 Of the ones I know about ...
 
  avgtime
 
 Written in the 'D' language which doesn't have support for ARM
 upstream.
 
  grub2
 
 ARM (32 bit) boots using u-boot.  Aarch64 machines will boot using
 grub2 (or is that grub2-efi? - you know better than I do :-)

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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:01:22AM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote:
 On 11. 6. 2014 at 14:07:05, DJ Delorie wrote:
  Forcing the users to type a different command name to get exactly the
  same functionality only serves to annoy the user.
 
 I'm sorry but at this point I feel I gotta ask: have you read my earlier 
 replies?
 
 Nothing will change for you, the yum command will still exist for a few more 
 Fedora releases, just as the `service` command that was superseded by 
 systemctl like 5 releases of Fedora ago exists.

At least systemctl is generic unlike dnf.  And systemctl is much
more of a change from the way service works that it warranted a
change of name.  yum and dnf both work pretty much the same way
from the user's perspective, so it is not a good argument to change
the name.
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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Čt, 2014-06-12 at 10:09 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 02:10:22PM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote:
We are open to ideas. I think in this situation there is no perfect way
how to satisfy everyone. We have thought about this for several months.
Renaming dnf back to yum might seem like the best option at first (it 
was
our original plan too) but when you carefully and deeply think about
this, keeping dnf and yum separate is really the least painful choice. 
So
far I haven't seen a single strong argument against it that would 
satisfy
needs of all the involved stakeholders.
   
   Well having user that upgrade have a different package manager then
   those who install new is not only not perfect but a no go.
   Simple obsolete yum so that dnf gets pulled in on upgrades and have
   rename the yum package to yum-legacy or something and have users that
   want it for whatever reason install it by hand.
  
  I think this is is alignment with what I said before - yum and dnf will 
  still 
  stay separated and dnf is not renamed. So if there is no argument against 
  your 
  proposal, we might as well give it a shot.
 
 The arguments against renaming the command have been given.  The dnf
 command should either be renamed back to yum, or there should be
 permanent backwards compatibility via a script, symlink, etc.  There
 is NO good reason to force everyone to change scripts and command line
 habits just for the sake of changing the name of a command that is an
 almost 100% compatible evolution of the older command.  Call the
 package dnf and obsolete the yum package, rename the old yum package
 to yum-legacy--fine.  But please make yum install etc. still work
 with dnf.
 
 And if those arguments aren't convincing enough, the second best
 option, if you MUST change the name of the command, is to change it
 ONCE to something PERMANENT that never changes ever again.  Something
 generic like package-manager or pkgman.  A name like dnf isn't
 really helpful as part of the system command language API.  It is
 obscure lore that contributes to making Linux harder to learn.  (So is
 yum but that ship has sailed.)

BTW repoquery --repoid=rawhide -f /usr/bin/pkg gives empty output so if
you are really really sure that the command must be renamed, please use
'pkg'.

But I vote for keeping yum symlink or script wrapper forever.
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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Jan Zelený
On 12. 6. 2014 at 10:11:40, Chuck Anderson wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:01:22AM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote:
  On 11. 6. 2014 at 14:07:05, DJ Delorie wrote:
   Forcing the users to type a different command name to get exactly the
   same functionality only serves to annoy the user.
  
  I'm sorry but at this point I feel I gotta ask: have you read my earlier
  replies?
  
  Nothing will change for you, the yum command will still exist for a few
  more Fedora releases, just as the `service` command that was superseded
  by systemctl like 5 releases of Fedora ago exists.
 
 At least systemctl is generic unlike dnf.  And systemctl is much
 more of a change from the way service works that it warranted a
 change of name.  yum and dnf both work pretty much the same way
 from the user's perspective, so it is not a good argument to change
 the name.

Actually it is. The pretty much part is exactly the reason why to change the 
name. If we didn't, a ton of users who are not reading this conversation would 
start filing regression bugs. If we set their expectations right, warning them 
that yum is no more, they are far less likely to do so.

Thanks
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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Jan Zelený
On 12. 6. 2014 at 10:09:13, Chuck Anderson wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 02:10:22PM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote:
We are open to ideas. I think in this situation there is no perfect
way
how to satisfy everyone. We have thought about this for several
months.
Renaming dnf back to yum might seem like the best option at first (it
was
our original plan too) but when you carefully and deeply think about
this, keeping dnf and yum separate is really the least painful choice.
So
far I haven't seen a single strong argument against it that would
satisfy
needs of all the involved stakeholders.
   
   Well having user that upgrade have a different package manager then
   those who install new is not only not perfect but a no go.
   Simple obsolete yum so that dnf gets pulled in on upgrades and have
   rename the yum package to yum-legacy or something and have users 
that
   want it for whatever reason install it by hand.
  
  I think this is is alignment with what I said before - yum and dnf will
  still stay separated and dnf is not renamed. So if there is no argument
  against your proposal, we might as well give it a shot.
 
 The arguments against renaming the command have been given.  The dnf
 command should either be renamed back to yum, or there should be
 permanent backwards compatibility via a script, symlink, etc.  There
 is NO good reason to force everyone to change scripts and command line
 habits just for the sake of changing the name of a command that is an
 almost 100% compatible evolution of the older command.  Call the
 package dnf and obsolete the yum package, rename the old yum package
 to yum-legacy--fine.  But please make yum install etc. still work
 with dnf.

We are on the same page, thanks for your input.

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Re: Review requests: netgen-mesher, tcl-togl

2014-06-12 Thread Mukundan Ragavan
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On 06/11/2014 07:07 PM, Sandro Mani wrote:
 Hi,
 
 For the ongoing effort to package salome/code-aster, I need these
 two dependencies:
 
 - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108395 -
 netgen-mesher - Somewhat complexish, autotools, mpi subpackages -
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108355 - tcl-togl -
 Easy review, tcl/tk packaging
 
 Happy to review in exchange.
 
 Thanks, Sandro
 

Hi Sandro,

I will review these packages.

Best,
Mukundan.

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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 12.06.2014 16:28, schrieb Jan Zelený:
 On 12. 6. 2014 at 10:11:40, Chuck Anderson wrote:
 At least systemctl is generic unlike dnf.  And systemctl is much
 more of a change from the way service works that it warranted a
 change of name.  yum and dnf both work pretty much the same way
 from the user's perspective, so it is not a good argument to change
 the name.
 
 Actually it is. The pretty much part is exactly the reason why to change 
 the 
 name. If we didn't, a ton of users who are not reading this conversation 
 would 
 start filing regression bugs. If we set their expectations right, warning 
 them 
 that yum is no more, they are far less likely to do so.

wrong

* you get that regression bugs anyways
* the only thing what you are doing is spread confusion

in case of set their expectations right

* why was GNOME3 not renamed
* why was KDE4 not renamed
* why was Apache 2.4 not renamed

the only expectation a user has is that behavior don't change
and features / options are not removed and called improvement




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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread DJ Delorie

 Nothing will change for you, the yum command will still exist for a
 few more Fedora releases,

Which only postpones the problem.

 just as the `service` command that was superseded by systemctl like
 5 releases of Fedora ago exists.

Which is currently annoying me, for the same reason.
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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Jan Zelený  wrote:


 We are on the same page, thanks for your input.


I don't think so.  You are clearly arguing for a temporary compatibility
wrapper but eventually forcing everyone to use dnf as the command.  The
other side is wanting yum to continue to remain the name for the command
with yum-legacy for temporary transition.  In otherwords, dnf is an
internal project name and doesn't need to be exposed to the user.  The
analogy to systemctl doesn't work because systemctl is part of a completely
separate project that works very differently from service command while dnf
is a experimental fork of yum with a few fairly minor differences in
command line and configuration options.

Rahul
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Re: Review requests: netgen-mesher, tcl-togl

2014-06-12 Thread Sandro Mani

On 12.06.2014 16:29, Mukundan Ragavan wrote:

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On 06/11/2014 07:07 PM, Sandro Mani wrote:

Hi,

For the ongoing effort to package salome/code-aster, I need these
two dependencies:

- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108395 -
netgen-mesher - Somewhat complexish, autotools, mpi subpackages -
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108355 - tcl-togl -
Easy review, tcl/tk packaging

Happy to review in exchange.

Thanks, Sandro


Hi Sandro,

I will review these packages.



Thanks!

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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Miloslav Trmač
2014-06-12 17:03 GMT+02:00 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com:

 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Jan Zelený  wrote:


 We are on the same page, thanks for your input.


 I don't think so.  You are clearly arguing for a temporary compatibility
 wrapper but eventually forcing everyone to use dnf as the command.  The
 other side is wanting yum to continue to remain the name for the command
 with yum-legacy for temporary transition.  In otherwords, dnf is an
 internal project name and doesn't need to be exposed to the user.


There are not only two sides :)  I don’t insist on dnf being a hidden
“internal project name”; introducing new features (only?) under the dnf
name is fine with me.  I do object to planning to unnecessarily break the
yum commands for which we actually have compatibility.
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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Jamie Duncan
I am +1 for keeping the 'yum' name for the new manager, if only for the 
connotation. 

Telling users/consumers/customers that yum is upgraded and awesome is much 
easier than telling them that yum has been replaced and that the new tool is 
awesome. 
Even something like 'yum4' would be preferable to a new acronym to learn. 

Thanks, 

Jamie Duncan, RHCE 
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From: Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com 
To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org 
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:03:35 AM 
Subject: Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF 

Hi 


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: 




We are on the same page, thanks for your input. 




I don't think so. You are clearly arguing for a temporary compatibility wrapper 
but eventually forcing everyone to use dnf as the command. The other side is 
wanting yum to continue to remain the name for the command with yum-legacy for 
temporary transition. In otherwords, dnf is an internal project name and 
doesn't need to be exposed to the user. The analogy to systemctl doesn't work 
because systemctl is part of a completely separate project that works very 
differently from service command while dnf is a experimental fork of yum with a 
few fairly minor differences in command line and configuration options. 

Rahul 

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Re: F21 System Wide Change: Fedora 21 Make 4.0 Update

2014-06-12 Thread Omair Majid
* Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com [2014-06-12 04:25]:
 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Omair Majid oma...@redhat.com wrote:
  * Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com [2014-04-14 08:32]:
  = Proposed System Wide Change: Fedora 21 Make 4.0 Update =
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F21Make40
 
  == Detailed Description ==
  The purpose of this update is to synchronize Fedora with the most recent 
  Make
  release.
 
  The contingency for this was supposed to trigger at the Mass Rebuild.
  However, koji tells me that the first time Make 4.0 was built in rawhide
  was during the Mass Rebuild [1] :(
 
  And of course, some of the changes in Make broke other programs. OpenJDK
  8, for example, currently fails to build because of this. It built for
  the mass rebuild (because make was not built until that point) but fails
  now.
 
  What's the plan here?
 
 What fix do you propose for the Openjdk8 side of the problem?

Turns out, OpenJDK 8 was rely on some weird edge case. I haven't looked
into it yet, but there's a one-liner fix someone pointed me to [1], so
OpenJDK 8 should be easy to fix. I am just surprised that a major change
went in at such a surprising time (middle of mass rebuild).

Thanks,
Omair

[1] http://icedtea.classpath.org/hg/icedtea8-forest/hotspot/rev/b4ea3a87f707

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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Petr Spacek

On 12.6.2014 16:16, Miloslav Trmač wrote:

2014-06-12 9:30 GMT+02:00 Jan Zelený jzel...@redhat.com:


It boils down to this: someone is going to be inconvenienced. I argue
it's better to inconvenience the minority with special 'yum' needs by
making them use the 'yum-old' alias, rather than inconveniencing the
majority by making everyone switch their scripts and fingers to 'dnf'.


As I said, we will have transition layer so using yum in your shell scripts
will still work for a few more releases. A vast majority of users should
not
experience any inconveniences other than different output on the command
line.


… *now*, but *will be inconvenienced later* after those “a few more
releases” when you are planning for the yum command to go away.  The total
breakage and total impact on users is the same, you are only arguing for a
different timing that makes it seem like a smaller breakage.

(And separately, I don’t buy the argument that this
redirection-with-a-message is how users learn about the new tools.  This
way they only learn about the *most useless* part of the change, namely
“that old thing the system used to do?  It can do the same thing, but in
addition you have to learn a new command to keep it working“.  It doesn’t
teach *the useful part*, “here are the new features and here’s how to use
them at all.)


I support people who are requesting yum name to stay with us forever.

Please replace yum with dnf when yum-legacy is finally dropped.

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5tFTw: Board Meeting, Rawhide Rebuilt, Firewall Debate, ARM 64, and DNF as Yum Replacement, plus RHEL7 Bonus Item (2014-06-10)

2014-06-12 Thread Matthew Miller
Reposted from http://fedoramagazine.org/5tftw-2014-06-10/.

Fedora is a big project, and it’s hard to follow it all. This series
highlights interesting happenings in five different areas every week.
It isn’t comprehensive news coverage — just quick summaries with links
to each. Here are the five things for June 10th, 2014 (and sorry for
the posting delay):


New FPL Board Meeting
-

We held the first public Fedora Project Board meeting of my new tenure
as Fedora Project Leader yesterday, as an informal town-hall
discussion. You can read the summary or full log. We’ll be holding
these every two weeks. Usually, we’ll have an agenda based on decisions
to be made or (as suggested in this discussion, actually) with
representatives from different parts of the project talking about their
area of Fedora. But when we don’t have a pre-planned schedule, we’ll do
open floor like this for whatever people want to talk about. (In this
week’s case, it’s largely this: Fedora QA could use your help!)

  * 
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-06-09/board.2014-06-09-17.00.html
  * 
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-06-09/board.2014-06-09-17.00.log.html
  * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Join


Rawhide Mass Rebuild


Periodically, we do a “mass rebuild” of all of the packages in Rawhide,
our development branch. This makes sure that all of the software uses
the latest compilers and build macros. This is mostly an automated
process, but sometimes some software does not rebuild successfully. If
that software doesn’t get updated by its maintainers, and no one picks
it up, it will eventually be dropped from the distribution. Fedora
Release Engineer Dennis Gilmore posted a Fedora 21 Mass rebuild update,
including a link to the packages which need work. If any of these are
yours, please fix. Or if there’s something that you’re interested in
that isn’t rebuilding, considerer helping by becoming a co-maintainer.
(If you’re curious, the standard operating procedure followed for these
rebuilds is available on the Fedora wiki at Mass Rebuild SOP.)

  * https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-June/199629.html
  * http://ausil.fedorapeople.org/f21-failures.html
  * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mass_Rebuild_SOP


Fedora Workstation and Firewalld


In April, there was a large discussion over a proposal to drop the
firewall by default from Fedora Workstaion. The basic argument was
that the the current state of application integration with the firewall
service FirewallD isn’t adequate to provide a good user experience,
and that the security benefits aren’t really meaningful in actual
practice. Others disagreed, and ultimately, Workstation designers and
FirewallD developers met to figure out a solution. Developer Bastien
Nocera summarizes the resulting plan, which includes additional
automated testing, a new firewall zone, and adding network awareness to
GNOME’s “sharing” controls.

  * https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-April/198041.html
  * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation
  * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD
  * https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2014-June/009862.html


Update on 64-bit ARM and Fedora 21
--

Fedora contributor and ARM hacker Peter Robinson provides an aarch64
(arm64) on Fedora 21 update. Current ARM support in Fedora is 32-bit,
and focused mostly on low-cost consumer devices. The new 64-bit
“aarch64″ architecture promises an exciting future of low-cost,
energy-efficient, high-density servers — the “hyperscale” datacenter.
Peter says that progress is going nicely, with some porting work
remaining particularly around support of newer langages like Go and
server-side Javascript, but an overall status of “looking awesome”.

  * http://nullr0ute.com/2014/06/aarch64-arm64-on-fedora-21-update/
  * http://golang.org/
  * https://code.google.com/p/v8/


DNF Proposed for Fedora 22 (and user survey)


DNF is an experimental package manager, similar to the current
Yum. It’s *largely* a drop-in replacement, promising faster
dependency-solving and (more critically) a new explicitly-defined API
designed to make it easier to develop higher-level software like GUI
tools an plugins. There was a great article in January on Linux Weekly
News about a *previous* long discussion on DNF, and that’s
recommended reading if you missed it before. But also, the DNF
developers are asking for user feedback on Yum features missing in
DNF, so please do register your feedback about what is important to
you. And there is a feature proposal, not for the upcoming Fedora 21,
but for next year’s Fedora 22, to replace the current Yum with DNF
(possibly as “yum 4″).

  * http://dnf.baseurl.org/
  * http://yum.baseurl.org/
  * https://lwn.net/Articles/580223/
  * 

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 17:13 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
 2014-06-12 17:03 GMT+02:00 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com:
 
  On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Jan Zelený  wrote:
 
 
  We are on the same page, thanks for your input.
 
 
  I don't think so.  You are clearly arguing for a temporary compatibility
  wrapper but eventually forcing everyone to use dnf as the command.  The
  other side is wanting yum to continue to remain the name for the command
  with yum-legacy for temporary transition.  In otherwords, dnf is an
  internal project name and doesn't need to be exposed to the user.
 
 
 There are not only two sides :)  I don’t insist on dnf being a hidden
 “internal project name”; introducing new features (only?) under the dnf
 name is fine with me.  I do object to planning to unnecessarily break the
 yum commands for which we actually have compatibility.

We can keep the yum symlink forever...

I am for a clear break with dnf having its own name.
Using yum as the name for dnf is just a lie to the user and is not
helpful.
Dnf is a completely different project and code base that just happens to
be highly compatible with yum as a way to smooth the transition. That is
perfectly fine, and not spreading lies is an excellent strategy to
slowly educate users.

The service - systemctl example is actually an excellent example of a
smooth transition IMO, and should be followed.

If you like yum you keep the compat package, if you hate it: dnf remove
yum-compat and be happy.

Simo.

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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 12.06.2014 17:41, schrieb Simo Sorce:
 We can keep the yum symlink forever...
 
 I am for a clear break with dnf having its own name.
 Using yum as the name for dnf is just a lie to the user

it is not a lie

DNF is a fork of YUM and pretends to be compatible
and if it finally replaces YUM it's just a new
generation of YUM

as said: otherwise you would have to find a new name
for any major version with large changes of any piece
of software (GNOME, KDE, Apache)

frankly and as long there is no useful name call something DNF is
not helpful because it has no meaning while YUM is widely known as

* yet another update manager
* yellowdog updater modified

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowdog_Updater,_Modified



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Re: [fedora-arm] ExcludeArch tracker doesn't appear to be effective

2014-06-12 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:39:00AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
  grub2
 
 ARM (32 bit) boots using u-boot.  Aarch64 machines will boot using
 grub2 (or is that grub2-efi? - you know better than I do :-)

This one's purely excluded from 32-bit ARM. The source package is grub2 
regardless of the firmware interface used.

 (3) Out of 15000 packages, only about 100 don't build on ARM, and
 there are at most 50 missing bugs to fully comply with policy.

I didn't go through the list of FTBFS to figure out whether there are 
other cases, but yeah, the situation certainly isn't dreadful.

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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Les Howell
On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 17:54 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
 Am 12.06.2014 17:41, schrieb Simo Sorce:
  We can keep the yum symlink forever...
  
  I am for a clear break with dnf having its own name.
  Using yum as the name for dnf is just a lie to the user
 
 it is not a lie
 
 DNF is a fork of YUM and pretends to be compatible
 and if it finally replaces YUM it's just a new
 generation of YUM
 
 as said: otherwise you would have to find a new name
 for any major version with large changes of any piece
 of software (GNOME, KDE, Apache)
 
 frankly and as long there is no useful name call something DNF is
 not helpful because it has no meaning while YUM is widely known as
 
 * yet another update manager
 * yellowdog updater modified
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowdog_Updater,_Modified
 
I think that dnf is an unfortunate name change.  DNF in almost all kinds
of racing stands for Did Not Finish 

Regards,
Les H


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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread DJ Delorie

 Actually it is. The pretty much part is exactly the reason why to
 change the name. If we didn't, a ton of users who are not reading
 this conversation would start filing regression bugs. If we set
 their expectations right, warning them that yum is no more, they are
 far less likely to do so.

The right way to handle this is the way that every other package
handles it.  Detect the no-longer-compatible option and tell the user
that option is no longer available.  That way, the only users who
are ever inconvenienced are the few that are using the obsolete
option.

The wrong way to solve this is to inconvenience *every* user for the
sake of the few who need it.
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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:09:13AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
 And if those arguments aren't convincing enough, the second best
 option, if you MUST change the name of the command, is to change it
 ONCE to something PERMANENT that never changes ever again.  Something
 generic like package-manager or pkgman.

Heh, apt-get.

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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:37:15AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
 Have puppet, chef, ansible, salt, etc. been taught how to use dnf to
 install packages?  I think it would be a shame to force all this
 software to do s/yum/dnf/ or to have to conditionally code for these
 differences based on OS release or the presense of yum vs. dnf.  Why
 not just keep the command name the same with no nag message?

Even harder to change:

 - 1s of users' brains

 - 1s of pages of web-based documentation and printed books

Just leave the command as yum and redirect to dnf transparently.

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Re: Orphaning drgeo, drgeo-doc

2014-06-12 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz

On 2014-06-07 07:49, Jonathan Dieter wrote:

I'm orphaning drgeo and drgeo-doc.  I originally picked them up because
I thought our school would use drgeo, but we haven't, so I'm letting it go.


IMHO it would be nice if this could stay in, but I'm not a Fedora 
packager (yet? :-).



drgeo did FTBFS in the latest rebuild, and will probably need some TLC
to get it building again.


FWIW, I just posted a patch for the FTBFS:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1037042#c2


If you decide to take this, please note that upstream has moved to a squeak
VM image, and I haven't been able to find the source for it, so we're still
on drgeo 1.x.


TBH, I suspect we'll be stuck with 1.1.0 for the foreseeable future, but 
it still works.



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Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread David
Excuse me.

To whom, or to where, should I write to request that dnf has a tools
package like yum has. Yum-utils.
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What exactly is a bundled library? (was Re: apitrace, bundled libbacktrace)

2014-06-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-05-13 at 18:56 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote:
 Hi,
 
 apitrace 5.0 bundles libbacktrace, which looks like is living within the 
 gcc sources. libbacktrace is not build as a shared library from the gcc 
 sources, and not packaged.
 
 Is it feasible to build libbacktrace as a shared library and ship it in 
 a corresponding package? Or should I rather go for a bundling exception 
 request?

So in writing a reply to this, I noticed the guidelines around this are
actually fairly unclear and subject to interpretation.

The section on this topic from
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines reads:

Duplication of system libraries

A package should not include or build against a local copy of a library
that exists on a system. The package should be patched to use the system
libraries. This prevents old bugs and security holes from living on
after the core system libraries have been fixed.

In this RPM packaging context, the definition of the term 'library'
includes: compiled third party source code resulting in shared or static
linkable files, interpreted third party source code such as Python, PHP
and others. At this time JavaScript intended to be served to a web
browser on another computer is specifically exempted from this but this
will likely change in the future.

Note that for C and C++ there's only one system in Fedora but for some
other languages we have parallel stacks. For instance, python, python3,
jython, and pypy are all implementations of the python language but they
are separate interpreters with slightly different implementations of the
language. Each stack is considered its own system and can each contain
its own copy of a library.

The thing that is particularly unclear there is the definition of a
system (as in a library that exists on a system). The following
paragraphs seem to imply that Fedora's stacks for languages/frameworks
that implement some kind of shared library functionality are to be
understood as systems in that context. This is still not made
*entirely* clear, though, really.

The page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries
has all sorts of rationale and process stuff, but still no clear
definition of precisely what it is that constitutes a bundled library.

Even more confusingly,
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Treatment_Of_Bundled_Libraries
seems to have a rather different definition from that given on
Packaging:Guidelines. It reads:

(bundled libraries being defined as libraries which exist and are
mantained independently, whether or not they are packaged separately for
Fedora)

to me, that seems fundamentally different from the definition that is
somewhat unclearly implied on the Packaging:Guidelines page.

Has this been considered before? Is there a superior definition
somewhere, or an accepted interpretation which is consistent with both
pages?

Do we in fact need a section in Packaging:Guidelines and then two
separate 'subsidiary' pages all on the topic of bundled libraries? Would
it make more sense to combine all the details onto a single subsidiary
page and have Packaging:Guidelines just have a very short sort of
'summary' and a link to that one subsidiary page? Would that reduce the
likelihood of confusion?

Thanks!

I've seen several cases in the Real World where 'bundled' libraries that
are not a part of the Fedora repositories were considered to be OK under
the policy, which is a possible interpretation of the policy as given on
Packaging:Guidelines, but doesn't really seem to be a possible
interpretation of the policy as given on
Packaging:Treatment_Of_Bundled_Libraries (as it explicitly states
whether or not they are packaged separately for Fedora). This could
have considerable implementations for webapps if it were interpreted
strictly, I think.
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Re: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Fabio Alessandro Locati
Hi David,
Probably the best place to ask is on the dnf bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=dnfproduct=Fedora

Also, I've noted that there is an open bug about a specific yum-util (
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1048541).

Fabio


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:11 PM, David dgbo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Excuse me.

 To whom, or to where, should I write to request that dnf has a tools
 package like yum has. Yum-utils.
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Re: Orphaning drgeo, drgeo-doc

2014-06-12 Thread Eric Smith
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz yselk...@redhat.com
wrote:

 IMHO it would be nice if this could stay in, but I'm not a Fedora packager
 (yet? :-).

FWIW, I just posted a patch for the FTBFS:


I'll take over the 1.x pre-smalltalk package, incorporate your patch
(thanks for that!), and otherwise try to maintain the package.  If you
become a Fedora packager, you are welcome to take it over from me.

I'm also willing to try to package the 2.x (Smalltalk) version.  Squeak is
already in Fedora, and I have a little bit of Smalltalk experience, but no
experience with packaging Smalltalk programs.  Perhaps if I run into
trouble I might be able to get some assistance from the Squeak package
maintainer(s).

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Re: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread David
On 6/12/2014 5:53 PM, Fabio Alessandro Locati wrote:
 Hi David,
 Probably the best place to ask is on the dnf
 bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=dnfproduct=Fedora
 
 Also, I've noted that there is an open bug about a specific yum-util
 (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1048541).
 
 Fabio
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:11 PM, David dgbo...@gmail.com
 mailto:dgbo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Excuse me.
 
 To whom, or to where, should I write to request that dnf has a tools
 package like yum has. Yum-utils.
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That would be a 'RFE? I have never really understtod just how to enter
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But thank you Fabio.


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Re: rfc: xserver rebase in F20 (was Re: Slipping F21)

2014-06-12 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qui, 2014-06-12 at 11:06 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote:
 how is this jujuxiii ?
I mean who is this jujuxiii ? 

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Re: Current FTBFS packages (was Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 21)

2014-06-12 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthew Miller wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 02:00:13AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
  That was overly critical of me and did nothing to actually further the
  discussion. I apologise.
 No need to apologize! It's just the truth: ARM is not ready to be a
 primary
 
 Kevin, I disagree. A positive tone to discussion is important even when
 speaking the truth.

There was no negative tone in Matthew Garrett's original message:
 If the Fedora/ARM community don't care about feature parity with x86, 
 then we should just drop them back to secondary status.

There was nothing impolite or insulting in there. It might be impopular with 
the ARM people, but it's still a valid point that had to be made, and 
shouldn't have been retracted.

The decision to make ARM primary was a mistake, period.

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Re: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 18:17:01 -0400,
 David dgbo...@gmail.com wrote:

On 6/12/2014 5:53 PM, Fabio Alessandro Locati wrote:

That would be a 'RFE? I have never really understtod just how to enter
one of those.


Add the futurefeature keyword. That keeps the bug in rawhide after branches.
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Re: Current FTBFS packages (was Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 21)

2014-06-12 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 01:50:32AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Matthew Miller wrote:
  Kevin, I disagree. A positive tone to discussion is important even when
  speaking the truth.
 
 There was no negative tone in Matthew Garrett's original message:
  If the Fedora/ARM community don't care about feature parity with x86, 
  then we should just drop them back to secondary status.
 
 There was nothing impolite or insulting in there. It might be impopular with 
 the ARM people, but it's still a valid point that had to be made, and 
 shouldn't have been retracted.

In context, there was absolutely an impolite tone - it confounded there 
being no interest in making a single package work on ARM with the Fedora 
ARM community having no interest in feature parity. These are not 
actually the same thing, and the fact that I equated them was 
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[Bug 1108093] perl-CPANPLUS-0.9152 is available

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108093

Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-CPANPLUS-0.91.52-2.fc2
   ||1
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2014-06-12 02:46:38



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[Bug 1051108] CVE-2013-7284 perl-PlRPC: pre-auth remote code execution

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1051108
Bug 1051108 depends on bug 1030572, which changed state.

Bug 1030572 Summary: perl-PlRPC: not secure across trust boundaries
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1030572

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[Bug 1051106] perl-PlRPC: weak crypto

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
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Bug 1051106 depends on bug 1030572, which changed state.

Bug 1030572 Summary: perl-PlRPC: not secure across trust boundaries
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1030572

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[Bug 1108094] perl-Date-Easter-1.21 is available

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108094



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perl-Date-Easter-1.21-1.fc20 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 20.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Date-Easter-1.21-1.fc20

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[Bug 1108094] perl-Date-Easter-1.21 is available

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108094



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[Bug 1108091] perl-CGI-4.02 is available

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108091

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   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-CGI-4.02-1.fc21
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
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[Bug 1108635] New: perl-autobox-Core-1.24-5.fc21 FTBFS: t/flip.t fails randomly

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108635

Bug ID: 1108635
   Summary: perl-autobox-Core-1.24-5.fc21 FTBFS: t/flip.t fails
randomly
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-autobox-Core
  Assignee: iarn...@gmail.com
  Reporter: ppi...@redhat.com
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: iarn...@gmail.com, perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org



perl-autobox-Core-1.24-5.fc21 fails to build in F21 and F20 due randomly
failing tests:

#   Failed test at t/flip.t line 8.
# Structures begin differing at:
#  $got-{bar} = '2'
# $expected-{bar} = '3'
#   Failed test 'Returns hash in list context'
#   at t/flip.t line 12.
# Structures begin differing at:
#  $got-{bar} = '2'
# $expected-{bar} = '3'
# Looks like you failed 2 tests of 2.
t/flip.t . 
Dubious, test returned 2 (wstat 512, 0x200)
Failed

This is caused by random hash key order probably.

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[Bug 1108635] perl-autobox-Core-1.24-5.fc21 FTBFS: t/flip.t fails randomly

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108635

Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
   Assignee|iarn...@gmail.com   |ppi...@redhat.com



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[Bug 1108635] perl-autobox-Core-1.24-5.fc21 FTBFS: t/flip.t fails randomly

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108635

Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED
Version|rawhide |20
   Fixed In Version||perl-autobox-Core-1.27-1.fc
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[Bug 1108635] perl-autobox-Core-1.24-5.fc21 FTBFS: t/flip.t fails randomly

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108635



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perl-autobox-Core-1.27-1.fc20 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 20.
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[Bug 1108698] New: perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-23.fc21 FTBFS randomly

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108698

Bug ID: 1108698
   Summary: perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-23.fc21 FTBFS randomly
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-Net-Jabber
  Assignee: psab...@redhat.com
  Reporter: ppi...@redhat.com
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: mmasl...@redhat.com,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org,
psab...@redhat.com, xav...@bachelot.org
   External Bug ID: CPAN 40292



perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-23.fc21 fails a test randomly:

# Failed test (t/query_time.t at line 58)
#   'MET DST'
# doesn't match '(?^:^\S+$)'
# Looks like you failed 1 tests of 39.
t/query_time.t .. 
Dubious, test returned 1 (wstat 256, 0x100)
Failed

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[Bug 1108107] perl-Text-CSV_XS-1.09 is available

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108107

Petr Šabata psab...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Text-CSV_XS-1.09-1.fc2
   ||1
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2014-06-12 09:40:16



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[Bug 1108739] New: perl-Crypt-GeneratePassword-0.04 is available

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108739

Bug ID: 1108739
   Summary: perl-Crypt-GeneratePassword-0.04 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-Crypt-GeneratePassword
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: msu...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: msu...@redhat.com, perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org



Latest upstream release: 0.04
Current version/release in Fedora Rawhide: 0.03-28.fc21
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Crypt-GeneratePassword/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

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[Bug 1108746] New: perl-NetAddr-IP-4.075 is available

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108746

Bug ID: 1108746
   Summary: perl-NetAddr-IP-4.075 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-NetAddr-IP
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: andr...@bawue.net
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: andr...@bawue.net, perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org



Latest upstream release: 4.075
Current version/release in Fedora Rawhide: 4.073-2.fc21
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/NetAddr-IP/

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[Bug 1108757] New: perl-Test-Harness-3.32 is available

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108757

Bug ID: 1108757
   Summary: perl-Test-Harness-3.32 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-Test-Harness
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: ppi...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org, ppi...@redhat.com



Latest upstream release: 3.32
Current version/release in Fedora Rawhide: 3.31-1.fc21
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Test-Harness/

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[Bug 1108760] New: perl-YAML-Tiny-1.63 is available

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108760

Bug ID: 1108760
   Summary: perl-YAML-Tiny-1.63 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-YAML-Tiny
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: st...@silug.org
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org,
psab...@redhat.com, st...@silug.org



Latest upstream release: 1.63
Current version/release in Fedora Rawhide: 1.62-2.fc21
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/YAML-Tiny/

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[Bug 1108757] perl-Test-Harness-3.32 is available

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108757

Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Test-Harness-3.32-1.fc
   ||21
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2014-06-12 10:35:21



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[Bug 1108698] perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-23.fc21 FTBFS randomly

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108698



--- Comment #1 from Petr Šabata psab...@redhat.com ---
Created attachment 908180
  -- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=908180action=edit
Allow timezone abbreviations with spaces

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[Bug 1108698] perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-23.fc21 FTBFS randomly

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108698

Petr Šabata psab...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-24.fc21
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
External Bug ID|CPAN 40292  |
Last Closed||2014-06-12 10:44:42



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[Bug 1108698] perl-Net-Jabber-2.0-23.fc21 FTBFS randomly

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108698

Petr Šabata psab...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

External Bug ID||CPAN 96404



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[Bug 1108739] perl-Crypt-GeneratePassword-0.04 is available

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108739

Miroslav Suchý msu...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |NEXTRELEASE
Last Closed||2014-06-12 11:12:22



--- Comment #1 from Miroslav Suchý msu...@redhat.com ---
Built in rawhide.

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[Bug 1106197] perl-SDL: FTBFS in rawhide

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1106197

Yaakov Selkowitz yselk...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||yselk...@redhat.com



--- Comment #4 from Yaakov Selkowitz yselk...@redhat.com ---
FTBFS because some tests failed, but only on i686:

t/gfx_imagefilter.t . Failed 7/8 subtests 

The x86_64 task in the same build did succeed, however.  SDL_gfx itself, which
this test relies upon, uses MMX code only on ix86.  I tried perl-SDL again
using a mock build of SDL_gfx with an unconditional --disable-mmx and the
testsuite passed.

So, ultimately this is an issue with SDL_gfx, or possibly even with GCC; the
easiest workaround for the sake of the rebuild is to disable MMX even on ix86
in the former.

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[Bug 1106197] perl-SDL: FTBFS in rawhide

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1106197

Yaakov Selkowitz yselk...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||matth...@saou.eu



--- Comment #5 from Yaakov Selkowitz yselk...@redhat.com ---
CCing SDL_gfx owner.

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[Bug 1108746] perl-NetAddr-IP-4.075 is available

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108746

Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 CC||p...@city-fan.org
   Fixed In Version||perl-NetAddr-IP-4.075-1.fc2
   ||1
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
   Assignee|andr...@bawue.net   |p...@city-fan.org
Last Closed||2014-06-12 16:45:24



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[Bug 1108760] perl-YAML-Tiny-1.63 is available

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108760

Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 CC||p...@city-fan.org
   Fixed In Version||perl-YAML-Tiny-1.63-1.fc21
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2014-06-12 16:46:27



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[Bug 1108094] perl-Date-Easter-1.21 is available

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108094

Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA



--- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org ---
Package perl-Date-Easter-1.21-1.el6:
* should fix your issue,
* was pushed to the Fedora EPEL 6 testing repository,
* should be available at your local mirror within two days.
Update it with:
# su -c 'yum update --enablerepo=epel-testing perl-Date-Easter-1.21-1.el6'
as soon as you are able to.
Please go to the following url:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1637/perl-Date-Easter-1.21-1.el6
then log in and leave karma (feedback).

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[Bug 1000038] Please build perl-Net-Twitter for EPEL

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=138

Julian C. Dunn jd...@aquezada.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX
Last Closed||2014-06-12 20:50:07



--- Comment #5 from Julian C. Dunn jd...@aquezada.com ---
Based on this feedback about the upstream deps I am going to mark this as
WONTFIX.

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