[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 7 updates-testing report

2014-12-02 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 7 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
  35  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3621/php-Smarty-3.1.21-1.el7
  20  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3989/cross-binutils-2.23.88.0.1-2.el7.1
  13  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4152/lsyncd-2.1.5-6.el7
  13  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4154/nodejs-0.10.33-1.el7,libuv-0.10.29-1.el7
  12  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4174/python-eyed3-0.7.4-4.el7
  12  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4170/clamav-0.98.5-1.el7
  11  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4208/drupal7-7.34-1.el7
  11  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4197/wordpress-4.0.1-1.el7
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4302/hexchat-2.10.2-1.el7
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4409/erlang-R16B-03.10.el7
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4390/mingw-flac-1.3.1-1.el7
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4406/perl-YAML-LibYAML-0.54-1.el7
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4380/pkcs11-helper-1.11-3.el7,openvpn-2.3.6-1.el7


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 7 updates-testing

compat-lua-5.1.5-3.el7
cpanspec-1.78-19.el7
erlang-R16B-03.10.el7
libfli-1.7-14.el7
libnova-0.15.0-4.el7
mingw-flac-1.3.1-1.el7
nodejs-normalize-path-0.3.0-1.el7
nodejs-strip-path-1.0.0-2.el7
openvpn-2.3.6-1.el7
perl-Cache-Memcached-1.30-8.el7
perl-YAML-LibYAML-0.54-1.el7
php-aws-sdk-2.7.6-1.el7
pkcs11-helper-1.11-3.el7
pyhoca-gui-0.5.0.3-1.el7
python-x2go-0.5.0.2-1.el7
scotch-6.0.3-2.el7
statsd-0.7.2-3.el7
sword-1.7.3-9.el7

Details about builds:



 compat-lua-5.1.5-3.el7 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4385)
 Powerful light-weight programming language (compat version)

Update Information:

PORTING TO EPEL7

Powerful light-weight programming language (compat version) - 5.1.5

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #991666 - Review Request: compat-lua - Powerful light-weight 
programming language (compat version)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=991666




 cpanspec-1.78-19.el7 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4394)
 RPM spec file generation utility

Update Information:

cpanspec generates spec files (and, optionally, source or even binary packages) 
for Perl modules from CPAN for Fedora.  The quality of the spec file is our 
primary concern.  It is assumed that maintainers will need to do some 
(hopefully small) amount of work to clean up the generated spec file to make 
the package build and to verify that all of the information contained in the 
spec file is correct.

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #168838 - Review Request: cpanspec
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=168838




 erlang-R16B-03.10.el7 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4409)
 General-purpose programming language and runtime environment

Update Information:

* Disable SSLv3
* Backport useful os:getenv/2 from master. See this GitHub pull request for 
further details - https://github.com/erlang/otp/pull/535
* Fixed CVE-2014-1693 (backported fix from ver. 17.x.x, see patch no. 17)
* Trimmed dependency chain

ChangeLog:

* Mon Dec  1 2014 Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com - R16B-03.10
- Disable SSLv3 (see rhbz #1169375)
- Backport useful os:getenv/2 from master (see 
https://github.com/erlang/otp/pull/535 )
* Mon Nov 17 2014 Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com - R16B-03.9
- Fixed CVE-2014-1693 (backported fix from ver. 17.x.x, see patch no. 17)
* Tue Nov 11 2014 Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com - R16B-03.8
- Trimmed dependency chain
- Cleaned up spec-file

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1059331 - CVE-2014-1693 erlang-inets: command injection flaw in 
FTP module
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1059331




Fwd: Broken dependencies: glances

2014-12-02 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Dear all,

We have a case here of a dependent package, requiring a higher version
of python-psutil than is currently built.

There are some other packages that depend on psutil:
 sudo dnf repoquery --whatrequires python-psutil
autotest-framework-server-0:0.16.0-3.fc21.noarch
fedmsg-0:0.11.0-1.fc21.noarch
fedmsg-notify-0:0.5.4-2.fc21.noarch
glances-0:1.7.7-2.fc21.noarch
heat-cfntools-0:1.2.7-4.fc21.noarch
pysysbot-0:0.1.3-2.fc21.noarch
rootfs-resize-0:2.0-5.fc21.noarch
sidc-gui-0:0.4-4.fc21.noarch
torbrowser-launcher-0:0.1.6-3.fc21.noarch

Is there any objection to a python-psutil update for Rawhide?

Thanks,

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Subject: Broken dependencies: glances
Date: Mon,  1 Dec 2014 10:37:56 + (UTC)
From: build...@fedoraproject.org
To: glances-ow...@fedoraproject.org
CC: python-psutil-ow...@fedoraproject.org



glances has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
glances-2.1.2-2.fc22.noarch requires python-psutil = 0:2.0.0
On i386:
glances-2.1.2-2.fc22.noarch requires python-psutil = 0:2.0.0
On armhfp:
glances-2.1.2-2.fc22.noarch requires python-psutil = 0:2.0.0
Please resolve this as soon as possible.







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Re: Review swap

2014-12-02 Thread Thomas Spura
Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com schrieb am Mon Dec 01 2014 at 9:12:13 PM:

 CVC4 has a new version with a new dependency.  How about yet another
 review swap, this time for abc:

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169492

 Let me know what I can review in exchange.  Thanks,


Taken.

Could you review ptyprocess, which is a new dependency of python-pexpect:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1167830

Thanks,
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Re: Power consumption with Fedora

2014-12-02 Thread Ivan Chavero


- Mensaje original -
 De: john.tiger john.tigernas...@gmail.com
 Para: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Enviados: Lunes, 1 de Diciembre 2014 17:57:43
 Asunto: Power consumption with Fedora
 
 Obviously priority is now on F21 bugs but looking beyond that
 
 I want to work with someone more knowledgeable on power consumption - it
 stinks on Fedora 20.
 
 OSX on mac air gets 11-12 hrs  Fedora gets 4
 Chrome OS on Chromebook gets 9-10  Fedora gets about 6
 
 Tried powertop - see slight improvement.
 
 Guys at ARCH claim with powerdown scripts they get close to 11 on Mac
 Air - that's good
 
 So we need to get the powerdown scripts to work well with Fedora.  I
 have no idea how much conversion, if any is needed for Fedora - just
 don't have the knowledge of processes, Fedora scripts, etc.  But willing
 to help out, test, etc.  (I want 11 hrs on my Mac Air !).

i have the same problem, i'm willing to help developing and testing. if
someone has some work done as a starting point i think we can solve this
in a reasonable time.

Cheers,
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Re: Entire process's environment attached to bugzillas by ABRT

2014-12-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 03:36:11AM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 08:29:27PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
  Hi
  
  On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Lars Seipel  wrote:
  
  
   There's also OpenNebula (^ONE_) and Vmware (^VI_) doing the same. Seems
   to be pretty common with virt and cloud stuff. Apart from that I can't
   think of anything else right now.
  
  
  Rackspace, DigitalOcean,  Google Computing Engine etc have API info
  potentially exported in the environment as well.  This is going to be quite
  tedious to filter out but just in case you want to blacklist them,  you
  want to blacklist the following
  
  NOVA_*
  DO_*
  APPID_*
 OK, so far we have:
 
 OS_*
 AWS_*
 ONE_*
 VI_*
 NOVA_*
 DO_*
 APPID_*

Sorry one more :-)

  EC2_*

Used by older Amazon EC2 client, and by Eucalyptus (a free software
Amazon API client clone).

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Re: Power consumption with Fedora

2014-12-02 Thread William


 On 2 Dec 2014, at 11:27, john.tiger john.tigernas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Obviously priority is now on F21 bugs but looking beyond that
 
 I want to work with someone more knowledgeable on power consumption - it 
 stinks on Fedora 20.
 
 OSX on mac air gets 11-12 hrs  Fedora gets 4
 Chrome OS on Chromebook gets 9-10  Fedora gets about 6
 
 Tried powertop - see slight improvement.
 
 Guys at ARCH claim with powerdown scripts they get close to 11 on Mac Air - 
 that's good
 
 So we need to get the powerdown scripts to work well with Fedora.  I have no 
 idea how much conversion, if any is needed for Fedora - just don't have the 
 knowledge of processes, Fedora scripts, etc.  But willing to help out, test, 
 etc.  (I want 11 hrs on my Mac Air !).

Try installing tlp. Helps my macbook to get more battery. It seems to fix up 
issues with scaling governors etc.

If your laptop is dual gpu you're facing an uphill battle though.




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F-21 Branched report: 20141202 changes

2014-12-02 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Dec  2 07:15:03 UTC 2014
Broken deps for armhfp
--
[avro]
avro-mapred-1.7.5-9.fc21.noarch requires hadoop-mapreduce
avro-mapred-1.7.5-9.fc21.noarch requires hadoop-client
[openstack-nova]
openstack-nova-compute-2014.1.2-1.fc21.noarch requires 
libvirt-daemon-xen
[ostree]
ostree-grub2-2014.11-1.fc21.armv7hl requires grub2
[spring-maps-default]
spring-maps-default-0.1-12.fc21.noarch requires spring
[syntastic]
syntastic-d-3.5.0-1.fc21.noarch requires ldc










Updated Packages:

kernel-3.17.4-301.fc21
--
* Thu Nov 27 2014 Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org - 3.17.4-301
- Add patch to fix radeon HDMI issues (rhbz 1167511)

* Mon Nov 24 2014 Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org
- Add quirk for Laser Mouse 6000 (rhbz 1165206)


Size change: 1852 bytes

lorax-21.30-1.fc21
--
* Thu Nov 20 2014 Brian C. Lane b...@redhat.com 21.30-1
- Install optional product and updates packages (#1155228) (b...@redhat.com)

* Wed Nov 19 2014 Brian C. Lane b...@redhat.com 21.29-1
- Remove diagnostic product.img test (#1165425) (b...@redhat.com)


Size change: 388 bytes

sugar-0.102.0-5.fc21

* Tue Nov 25 2014 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@fedoraproject.org 0.102.0-5
- Fix display of Help

* Sat Sep 27 2014 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org 0.102.0-4
- update/optimize mime scriptlet


Size change: 1762 bytes

sugar-speak-48-2.fc21
-
* Tue Nov 25 2014 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@fedoraproject.org 48-2
- Fix replying to questions


Size change: 115 bytes

sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.102.0-4.fc21
-
* Tue Nov 25 2014 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@fedoraproject.org 0.102.0-4
- Patch for running Activities if the Translation is broken


Size change: 1310 bytes


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 5
Size of added packages: 0 (0 )
Size change of modified packages: 5427 (5.3 k)
Size of removed packages: 0 (0 )
Size change: 5427 (5.3 k)
Compose finished at Tue Dec  2 11:41:23 UTC 2014

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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread Alec Leamas

On 02/12/14 03:46, Ben Cotton wrote:


That's not to say that there aren't useful questions that could be
answered, but so far they haven't been asked. I think if you start
with the right question, it will be easier to find a route to the
answer.


Hm... and backtracking this another step, an even more basic issue is 
why would one ask these question(s)?


I started with the need for packagers to get some feedback, the feeling 
that there are users out there using my work. Although trivial,  this is 
still essential for me. Rahul adds the negative feedback that my package 
is actively removed (don't want that).


Matthew have indicated the same need on the product level in bz 1156007. 
Reading Rahul: shouldn't spins  be treated the same way as products?


Another thing is understanding what sw is used which not is part of 
Fedora's repos - this is basically an argument to package it. This 
applies to foreign repos like COPR/rpmfusion but perhaps also to 
unpackaged sw in some cases e. g., chrome.


Reading Rahul, we also see the opportunity to understand how well our 
update process works so we can improve it over time. I don't fully 
understand this.


So, a revised/enhanced/even worse set of questions:

- How many users have installed product X/spin Y?
- How many users have installed package X?
- How many users have actively removed package X?
- What packages are installed from non-Fedora repos?
- Count on non-packaged specific applications.
- How often are updates performed? Which packages are excluded?
- How often is package X updated from updates-testing?

This seems not only like a logical ordering but also to outline some 
priorities.



Cheers!

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rawhide report: 20141202 changes

2014-12-02 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Dec  2 05:15:02 UTC 2014
Broken deps for i386
--
[3Depict]
3Depict-0.0.16-3.fc22.i686 requires libmgl.so.7.2.0
[NetworkManager-openconnect]
NetworkManager-openconnect-0.9.8.4-4.fc22.i686 requires 
libopenconnect.so.3(OPENCONNECT_3.0)
NetworkManager-openconnect-0.9.8.4-4.fc22.i686 requires 
libopenconnect.so.3
[Sprog]
Sprog-0.14-27.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.18.0)
[cab]
cab-0.1.9-12.fc22.i686 requires cabal-dev
[cinepaint]
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.i686 requires libImath-2_1.so.11
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.i686 requires libIlmThread-2_1.so.11
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.i686 requires libIlmImf-Imf_2_1.so.21
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.i686 requires libIexMath-2_1.so.11
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.i686 requires libIex-2_1.so.11
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.i686 requires libHalf.so.11
[dnssec-check]
dnssec-check-1.14.0.1-4.fc20.i686 requires libval-threads.so.14
dnssec-check-1.14.0.1-4.fc20.i686 requires libsres.so.14
[gdal]
gdal-1.11.1-1.fc22.i686 requires libpoppler.so.46
gdal-java-1.11.1-1.fc22.i686 requires libpoppler.so.46
gdal-libs-1.11.1-1.fc22.i686 requires libpoppler.so.46
gdal-perl-1.11.1-1.fc22.i686 requires libpoppler.so.46
[gegl]
gegl-0.2.0-20.fc22.i686 requires libImath-2_1.so.11
gegl-0.2.0-20.fc22.i686 requires libIlmThread-2_1.so.11
gegl-0.2.0-20.fc22.i686 requires libIlmImf-Imf_2_1.so.21
gegl-0.2.0-20.fc22.i686 requires libIexMath-2_1.so.11
gegl-0.2.0-20.fc22.i686 requires libIex-2_1.so.11
gegl-0.2.0-20.fc22.i686 requires libHalf.so.11
[glances]
glances-2.1.2-2.fc22.noarch requires python-psutil = 0:2.0.0
[kde-plasma-nm]
kde-plasma-nm-openconnect-0.9.3.5-1.fc22.i686 requires 
libopenconnect.so.3(OPENCONNECT_3.0)
kde-plasma-nm-openconnect-0.9.3.5-1.fc22.i686 requires 
libopenconnect.so.3
[nwchem]
nwchem-openmpi-6.3.2-11.fc21.i686 requires libmpi_usempi.so.1
[python-selenium]
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[rubygem-wirb]
rubygem-wirb-1.0.3-2.fc21.noarch requires rubygem(paint)  0:0.9
[shogun]
shogun-doc-3.2.0.1-0.27.git20140804.96f3cf3.fc22.noarch requires 
shogun-data = 0:0.8.1-0.18.git20140804.48a1abb.fc22
[uwsgi]
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uwsgi-stats-pusher-mongodb-2.0.7-2.fc22.i686 requires libmongoclient.so
[vfrnav]
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vfrnav-utils-20140510-2.fc22.i686 requires libpolyclipping.so.16
[wine]
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[3Depict]
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[NetworkManager-openconnect]
NetworkManager-openconnect-0.9.8.4-4.fc22.x86_64 requires 
libopenconnect.so.3(OPENCONNECT_3.0)(64bit)
NetworkManager-openconnect-0.9.8.4-4.fc22.x86_64 requires 
libopenconnect.so.3()(64bit)
[Sprog]
Sprog-0.14-27.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.18.0)
[cab]
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[cinepaint]
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.i686 requires libImath-2_1.so.11
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.i686 requires libIlmThread-2_1.so.11
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.i686 requires libIlmImf-Imf_2_1.so.21
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.i686 requires libIexMath-2_1.so.11
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.i686 requires libIex-2_1.so.11
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.i686 requires libHalf.so.11
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.x86_64 requires libImath-2_1.so.11()(64bit)
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.x86_64 requires 
libIlmThread-2_1.so.11()(64bit)
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.x86_64 requires 
libIlmImf-Imf_2_1.so.21()(64bit)
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.x86_64 requires libIexMath-2_1.so.11()(64bit)
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.x86_64 requires libIex-2_1.so.11()(64bit)
cinepaint-libs-1.4-7.fc22.x86_64 requires libHalf.so.11()(64bit)
[dnssec-check]
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libval-threads.so.14()(64bit)
dnssec-check-1.14.0.1-4.fc20.x86_64 requires libsres.so.14()(64bit)
[gdal]
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gdal-java-1.11.1-1.fc22.x86_64 requires libpoppler.so.46()(64bit)
gdal-libs-1.11.1-1.fc22.i686 requires libpoppler.so.46
gdal-libs-1.11.1-1.fc22.x86_64 requires libpoppler.so.46()(64bit)
gdal-perl-1.11.1-1.fc22.x86_64 requires libpoppler.so.46()(64bit)
[gegl]
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gegl-0.2.0-20.fc22.i686 requires libIlmThread-2_1.so.11
gegl-0.2.0-20.fc22.i686 requires libIlmImf-Imf_2_1.so.21
gegl-0.2.0-20.fc22.i686 

Re: Entire process's environment attached to bugzillas by ABRT

2014-12-02 Thread Jakub Filak
On Mon, 2014-12-01 at 16:01 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 03:18:36PM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
  On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 01:43:39PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
   On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 07:39:47AM +0100, Jakub Filak wrote:
The discussion I mentioned above was primarily about OpenStack (but the
participants also expressed concerns about sending 'environ' to Bugzilla
at all), where people are regularly storing their passwords and tokens
as environment variables.
   
   Yes unfortunately OpenStack does by default encourage people to source
   a 'keystonerc_admin' file which contains authentication tokens.  The
   file will look something like this:
   
   export OS_USERNAME=admin
   export OS_TENANT_NAME=admin
   export OS_PASSWORD=mysecretpassword
   export OS_AUTH_URL=http://127.0.0.1:35357/v2.0/
  
   For Amazon EC2 you'd want to scrub /^AWS_/
  Would it be enough to scrub OS_PASSWORD? We could filter out *PASSWORD*
  without gathering 50 cases.
 
 While it might be a good idea to also scrub all *PASSWORD* environment
 strings, this isn't sufficient for AWS.  AWS has two environment
 variables (AWS_ACCESS_KEY and AWS_SECRET_KEY) which are both
 sensitive.
 
 Also OS_USERNAME and OS_TENANT_NAME and even OS_AUTH_URL are somewhat
 sensitive (less so than OS_PASSWORD of course) since they reveal that
 a service exists, its location, and potential usernames to try
 bruteforcing.
 

ABRT highlights almost all of them:
https://github.com/abrt/libreport/blob/master/src/gui-wizard-gtk/forbidden_words.conf
/etc/libreport/forbidden_words.conf

But apparently the highlighting of sensitive words does not address this
issue very well.

We already auto-remove 'rootpw' lines from Anaconda reports[1], so there
is no argument against implementing the same thing for 'environ' file
for all applications:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169760



Jakub


1: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1041558

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Re: Entire process's environment attached to bugzillas by ABRT

2014-12-02 Thread Jakub Filak
On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 10:32 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 03:36:11AM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
  On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 08:29:27PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
   Hi
   
   On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Lars Seipel  wrote:
   
   
There's also OpenNebula (^ONE_) and Vmware (^VI_) doing the same. Seems
to be pretty common with virt and cloud stuff. Apart from that I can't
think of anything else right now.
   
   
   Rackspace, DigitalOcean,  Google Computing Engine etc have API info
   potentially exported in the environment as well.  This is going to be 
   quite
   tedious to filter out but just in case you want to blacklist them,  you
   want to blacklist the following
   
   NOVA_*
   DO_*
   APPID_*
  OK, so far we have:
  
  OS_*
  AWS_*
  ONE_*
  VI_*
  NOVA_*
  DO_*
  APPID_*
 
 Sorry one more :-)
 
   EC2_*
 
 Used by older Amazon EC2 client, and by Eucalyptus (a free software
 Amazon API client clone).
 

Thank you all!

If you think of something new, please add a new comment to this Bugzilla
bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169760



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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread Ian Malone
On 1 December 2014 at 20:55, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:


 On 1 December 2014 at 05:05, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:


 Am 01.12.2014 um 12:57 schrieb Pierre-Yves Chibon:

 So we come back to the question: is any number better than no number at
 all?
 Even to get a trend?


 no number is in fact better than wrong numbers backed by nothing beause
 they lead in wrong conclusions - your 122/133 numbers could in reality also
 be 1000 users installed them from mirrors and your calculation is the best
 example for wrong assumptions


 While that is 'true', most of the world doesn't work on 'true'. Your cars
 speedometer doesn't give you the accurate km/hour. [Even BMW digital has a
 +/- 2 km/hour due to all the factors from tire present size to road
 conditions.]. The answer is can you accurately remove enough noise to feel
 confident that you are doing 100 km/hour versus 120 km/hour. The same goes
 for measuring downloads.


It depends how and why you are collecting data. If, for example, you
are sensitive to how often downloads occur from mirrors, then sites
that use local repositories will be under-represented. And if that
happens to be a use type that typically customises their package
choices in some way then those choices wont turn up. There are two
types of error in general, random noise and bias. Rough analogy, if
your spedometer actually reported 0.85 of your real speed if may not
make a very noticeable difference at 30mph, but at 70 it does (and
worse if it turns out to be non-linear).

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Fedora 21 Final Release Readiness Meeting :: Thursday, Dec. 04, 19:00 UTC

2014-12-02 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Fedora 21 Final Release Readiness Meeting.

date: 2014-12-04 place: irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-2
time: 19:00 UTC (2 PM EST, 11 AM PST, 20:00 CET)

This Thursday, December 04, we will meet to make sure we are coordinated
and ready for the Final release of Fedora 21 on Tuesday, December 09, 2014.
Please note that this meeting will occur on December 09 even if the
release is delayed at the Go/No-Go meeting on the same day two hours
earlier.

You may received this message several times, but I was asked to open this
meeting to the teams and I'll also hope this will raise awareness and more
team representatives will come to this meeting. This meeting works best
when we have representatives from all of the teams. Also, there's a
Fedora badge for active participants!

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Re: Update to Parole 0.6.x stable series - completed port to GTK+3

2014-12-02 Thread poma
On 01.12.2014 15:22, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
...
 If you read bug 1065457 (or the upstream xfce list) you will see that
 while this is a stable release of parole, it depends on a unstable
 delvelopment release (4.11.x) of libxfce4ui. 

http://git.xfce.org/apps/parole/tree/configure.ac.in?id=0.6.1#n113
m4_define([libxfce4ui_minimum_version],[4.10.0])
m4_define([libxfce4util_minimum_version],[4.10.0])


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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread poma
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Re: Single Application

2014-12-02 Thread poma
On 01.12.2014 15:04, drago01 wrote:
 On Monday, December 1, 2014, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
 


 On Monday, December 1, 2014, poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pomidorabelis...@gmail.com'); wrote:


 QtSingleApplication
 http://doc.qt.digia.com/solutions/4/qtsingleapplication/

 Does GTK+ has such functionality?


 Yes  https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkApplication.html

 
  https://wiki.gnome.org/HowDoI/GtkApplication
 
 
 

Thanks.


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Re: Update to Parole 0.6.x stable series - completed port to GTK+3

2014-12-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 15:07:59 +0100
poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 01.12.2014 15:22, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 ...
  If you read bug 1065457 (or the upstream xfce list) you will see
  that while this is a stable release of parole, it depends on a
  unstable delvelopment release (4.11.x) of libxfce4ui. 
 
 http://git.xfce.org/apps/parole/tree/configure.ac.in?id=0.6.1#n113
 m4_define([libxfce4ui_minimum_version],[4.10.0])
 m4_define([libxfce4util_minimum_version],[4.10.0])

See: 

http://git.xfce.org/apps/parole/tree/configure.ac.in?id=0.6.1#n133

XDT_CHECK_PACKAGE([LIBXFCE4UI], [libxfce4ui-2], [4.10.0])

libxfce4ui-2 is only provided by 4.11.x versions (no idea why they set
the minimum to 4.10.0 there, there's no 4.10.0 version of libxfce4ui-2).

kevin


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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread Ben Cotton
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 Okay, this seems like a good start. What _are_ the right questions?

Oof, I walked right into this. :-)

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Alec Leamas leamas.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hm... and backtracking this another step, an even more basic issue is why
 would one ask these question(s)?

 I started with the need for packagers to get some feedback, the feeling that
 there are users out there using my work. Although trivial,  this is still
 essential for me. Rahul adds the negative feedback that my package is
 actively removed (don't want that).

I wouldn't call it trivial. When I wrote a small plugin for a Twitter
client I use, I was thrilled to find out that people used it. I almost
fell over when the developer asked if he could include it upstream.
Knowing people use what your make is a very powerful motivator.

 So, a revised/enhanced/even worse set of questions:

 - How many users have installed product X/spin Y?
 - How many users have installed package X?
 - How many users have actively removed package X?
 - What packages are installed from non-Fedora repos?
 - Count on non-packaged specific applications.
 - How often are updates performed? Which packages are excluded?
 - How often is package X updated from updates-testing?

This is a good start, though I'm still not sure it addresses the why
are we asking? component. The answers may be of value to individual
maintainers/developers, but are they of use to Fedora as a whole?
(Aside: what does Fedora as a whole even mean?)

For reasons others have pointed out, I'm not sure straight counts are
very useful. Here's the sort of question that might give more reliable
answers:

- What percentage of installs explicitly installed package X versus
installing as a dependency?

In this case, each system that reports in can say explicit or
dependency, and we can aggregate that. Granted, we still have a
problem with excluded machines (e.g. those behind a local mirror), but
I _suspect_ that would vary more on a package level than an machine
level.

For packages that have a lot of sub packages (for example, texlive and
its nearly 5k friends), queries on the raw counts could be
interesting:

- What percentage of installs have texlive-apacite and also texlive-beamer?
- What percentage of installs have texlive-graphics but not texlive-hyphennat?

But again, it comes down to what question are we trying to answer?
I'm not trying to be argumentative here, I agree that we need better
information about our users in order to best serve them, and I'm
trying to help us figure out what that information is. Package
installation doesn't give us a very clear picture. Changes from
defaults might be more interesting.

Here are some questions that could give us valuable information (most
of which are too nose-wipey to actually implement, but they're good
for discussion):

- What is the default browser on the system?
- How many local users have been created? How many of them have real
shells (as opposed to nologin)?
- What is the default desktop on the system?
- What daemons are running on the system?
- How many monitors are attached?
- What's the hardware platform (bare metal, AWS, KVM, etc)?

Some of these are very workstation-focused, and I feel like we've
tried to ask all of them before, but I think the more interesting
questions revolve around how people use Fedora, which isn't
necessarily represented by what packages they install.


Thanks,
BC

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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2014-12-01 at 23:21 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote:

 PS Nose-wiping? Sometimes it's hard not being a native speaker... DS

It's not an idiom, I meant it literally: that something as innocent as
wiping your runny nose because you have a cold would be cause for
controversy.

No idea what Matthew meant by improve that last part in that respect
though.  Possibly he's offering to make some chicken soup?  (Which, in
case that doesn't translate, is a traditional folk remedy for a cold.)

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Re: Power consumption with Fedora

2014-12-02 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2014-12-01 at 22:36 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:

 One related issue is suspend. It stopped working for me (on the same
 machine) at around Fedora 12. Just stays on the black screen on
 resume.

12?  Five years ago?

 Not that I need the feature often, but there might be people who do.
 Is suspend supposed to work under normal circumstances?

Of course it is.

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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 09:42:24AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:
 Knowing people use what your make is a very powerful motivator.
 
  So, a revised/enhanced/even worse set of questions:
 
  - How many users have installed product X/spin Y?
  - How many users have installed package X?
  - How many users have actively removed package X?
  - What packages are installed from non-Fedora repos?
  - Count on non-packaged specific applications.
  - How often are updates performed? Which packages are excluded?
  - How often is package X updated from updates-testing?
Some of those questions go too far imo and expose too much about the
individual machines and users. Actually even more interesting than
uninstalled packages would be masked or disabled *units*, since it
is often more effective to get rid of a daemon by masking, then by
package unistallation, when the package might be brought back by a
dependency. But despite being interesting, I'd consider this too much
of a breach of privacy. I think we should stick to the list of
installed packages. Nothing more, even the fact that packages
are uninstalled should be inferred from agregate data.

 This is a good start, though I'm still not sure it addresses the why
 are we asking? component. The answers may be of value to individual
 maintainers/developers, but are they of use to Fedora as a whole?
 (Aside: what does Fedora as a whole even mean?)
I think it is useful to look at debian-devel and what popcon numbers
are useful for. From what I have seen:
- time trends show how/when people upgrade after a new version is released

  (Generally useful, but specifically when working on a package, this will
   tell me if it is at all useful to fix something in F19 branch at this point
   or not.)

- what architectures are used. This was instrumental in the Debian's
  systemd debate, since without popcon nobody would know what Debian/kfreebsd
  usage is low double digits, and Debian/hurd even smaller, so the
  fact that they are not supported by systemd is not that important.

  For Fedora, it would be useful to know which architectures are used,
  and relative popularity of spins. I think the discussions about the default
  desktop environment would be more productive if they were based on
  actual usage levels.

- comparisons of trends of alternative packages over time 
(postfix/sendmail/exim4,
  kde vs gnome vs xfce, etc.)

Notice that absolute numbers are not on this list. Popcon absolute numbers
are dubious, but trends and relative numbers are useful.

[...]
 - What percentage of installs explicitly installed package X versus
 installing as a dependency?
 - What is the default browser on the system?
 - How many local users have been created? How many of them have real
 shells (as opposed to nologin)?
 - What is the default desktop on the system?
 - What daemons are running on the system?
 - How many monitors are attached?
I don't think we should be asking any of those.

 - What's the hardware platform (bare metal, AWS, KVM, etc)?
Yes. We would get the architecture from installed packages, but
not the platform. It would be nice to include 'hostnamectl chassis'
and 'systemd-detect-virt' style output.

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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 10:06:04AM -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
 No idea what Matthew meant by improve that last part in that respect
 though.  Possibly he's offering to make some chicken soup?  (Which, in
 case that doesn't translate, is a traditional folk remedy for a cold.)

Sure, chicken soup for all. :) I was mostly joking, but to take it
seriously: when we have hyperkitty in place (and I understand that the
holdup over mailman is over) it'll be easier for list subscribers who
don't want the firehose to gloss over off-topic chatter that could be
characterized as wiping one's nose on the list.

Doing this with a short joke was probably counter-productive, though.
:)




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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 05:15:38PM +0100, jfm...@free.fr wrote:
 Now it seems Fedora's downloads have been steadily going downwards
 and it is highly improbable that is due to a spectacular increase of
 number of people setting local mirrors.

Smooge is working on some updated statistics, and from what I've seen,
it's mostly flat, but not actually steadily downwards. More on the
other things later. :)


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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread jfm512
Problem:
How do you know the number of horses in a country?  

Solution:
You count horseshoes and divide by four.

Jokes aside any statistician will tell you that when you can't proceed to a
direct estimation you estimate something that is correlated.  This is 
particularly
useful if you are only interested in evolution but if you want absolute numbers
this can be done through a survey telling you how many A per B with A being the
studied variable and B the correlated one.

So a sensible correlated variable would be number of IP adreses that are pulling
updates from such or such Fedora version.   A still better one would be number 
of 
updates each time there is a security hole in the kernel or glibc since all 
users
are using them and we can assume 
over 90% users will update.  Both are better than primary downloads
since these are influenced by DVDs in Linux magazines and people that update 
instead of installing afresh.

Problem:  These are influenced by such parameters as
-Dual booting (person could be using several versions of Fedora in same box) 
-Distro or OS hopping (should a person who spends 10% of her time in Fedora get 
the same
ponderation than a full time user)?
-IP masquerading
-Local mirrors
-Tor.   You will need to set aside connections  from TOR nodes and keep an eye 
about their 
number respective to total.  You can estimate the real number of TOR using 
machines starting 
connections through the number of updates of must-be packages like kernel or 
libc: if each
time there is a kernel update you get 10 kernel donwloads then it doesn't 
matter if all 
came frm the same TOR exit ppoint or if from one version to the other you get 
connections
en enytirely different set of TOR nodes: you know there are 10 downloading 
machines (I assumme there
are no lazy users).

While it can be hazardous to try to get abolute numbers  you will a good idea
about _evolution_.  Just make a survey every couple years in order to know 
evolution
of the relationship between number of users and number of downloads.   Could be 
for instance
that more and more of Fedora users use local mirrors.

Now it seems Fedora's downloads have been steadily going downwards and it is 
highly 
improbable that is due to a spectacular increase of number of people setting 
local mirrors.

Fedora has a number of problems
1) It hasn't managed inspire the same kind of fanaticism Debian has.  When in 
Debian something 
is broken,
downright dangerous (eg signed packages came much later ) or just s..cks  it is
not a bug it is a feature.  Not such with Fedoora..
2)  It has an uninspiring installer.
3)  A slow update manager and front ends aren't particularly attractive
4)  After completing installation you have a lot more _unassisted_ 
postinstallation
configuration than in, say Suse or Mandriva.
5)  Config tools are poorer than in Suse or Mandriva(BTW did you set a spy 
department with the
task of keeping watch of what others were doing?) and are not task oriented.  
For
instance in Suse if I try to configure a Windows printer the installer will 
automatically
check and install the Samba client packages.  And, just in case Fedora does 
that now
for printers, Suse and Mandriva do things like that for about everything.
6)  Fedora hasn't managed to get the same kind of hype there is around  Ubuntu. 
 Partly
because of not benefitting of DEbian's propaganda network, partly because of 
points 2,3,4,5
and partly due to bad PR.

The splitting of Fedora in three versions could be a good thing maientance wise 
but if
goal was  to increase its pouplarity I fear that is it will be like applying a 
plaster on a
wooden leg.



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Objet: Re: How many users does Fedora have?

On 1 December 2014 at 20:55, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:


 On 1 December 2014 at 05:05, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:


 Am 01.12.2014 um 12:57 schrieb Pierre-Yves Chibon:

 So we come back to the question: is any number better than no number at
 all?
 Even to get a trend?


 no number is in fact better than wrong numbers backed by nothing beause
 they lead in wrong conclusions - your 122/133 numbers could in reality also
 be 1000 users installed them from mirrors and your calculation is the best
 example for wrong assumptions


 While that is 'true', most of the world doesn't work on 'true'. Your cars
 speedometer doesn't give you the accurate km/hour. [Even BMW digital has a
 +/- 2 km/hour due to all the factors from tire present size to road
 conditions.]. The answer is can you accurately remove enough noise to feel
 confident that you are doing 100 km/hour versus 120 km/hour. The same goes
 for measuring downloads.


It depends how and why you are collecting data. If, for example, you
are sensitive to how often downloads occur from mirrors, then sites
that use local 

Re: Power consumption with Fedora

2014-12-02 Thread Owen Taylor
Hi John, 

Power consumption is definitely an area that Fedora can improve, and an
area where we've begun to do some investigation.

Measuring battery life is hard, because when power saving is working,
battery life depends so much on what the user is doing. Many
manufacturers don't even provide battery life in their specifications
or at most, provide a rough figure like battery lasts up to 10 hours.
Doing what?

I've begun writing a test suite that will simulate events of typical
user activity (web browsing, word processing), so that we can at least
know machine-to-machine or Fedora-version to Fedora-version how well we
are doing with battery life. Comparing with a different operating system
is hard, since we typically have no idea how claimed numbers are
measured.

The second part of trying to improve power management is getting an
understanding of what actually uses power. powertop is impressive, but
can't always be taken at face value. I have some idea that we could
build up a database (or at least a wiki page or two) with detailed
information on power usage for a few representative models so that we
can get an idea about how we need to modify the system software.

On my laptop (ASUS ux301la), various things surprised me:

 * The backlight eats a ton of battery - 4W for the display backlight
and 1W for the keyboard backlight. If you are getting poor battery life,
turn off the keyboard backlight and turn the screen down. But how do we
fix this for all users? We used to be much more aggressive about screen
dimming in GNOME, and it was really annoying. Can we find some happy
medium?

 * Although most of the tunables in powertop did little that could be
measured, the Enable SATA link power management tunable saves 2W(!) We
need to consider whether this should be enabled by default, at least on
battery.

 * The next big offender on my system was inactive tabs with Flash ads
in them. If I have nytimes.com open on my system, that's another 2W. How
do we fix this for all users? Can we suspend plugins if there's no audio
playing?

This topline stuff is huge for battery life - on my laptop it makes a
difference between around 3 hours and around 7 hours. The rest is hard -
many small things that individually contribute just a little bit. Plus a
baseline of things like DRAM refresh that are fixed.

Having detailed data for multiple laptops (and definitely Macbooks are a
interesting target) would help us make sure that Fedora does a good job
out of the box. I don't think literally just including a set of scripts
that tweak a bunch of things is something we'd want to do, but
understanding what they are tweaking and how that affects power usage
would be incredibly useful.

- Owen


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Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-12-03)

2014-12-02 Thread Honza Horak

WG meeting will be at 12:00 UTC (07:00 EST, 13:00 Brno, 7:00 Boston,
21:00 Tokyo, 22:00 Brisbane) in #fedora-meeting on Freenode.

= Topics =
* Follow-ups
* SCLs and CentOS
* Chairman for next meeting
* Open Floor
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Re: Power consumption with Fedora

2014-12-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 11:33 -0500, Owen Taylor wrote:

 
  * The backlight eats a ton of battery - 4W for the display backlight
 and 1W for the keyboard backlight. If you are getting poor battery life,
 turn off the keyboard backlight and turn the screen down. But how do we
 fix this for all users? We used to be much more aggressive about screen
 dimming in GNOME, and it was really annoying. Can we find some happy
 medium?

Did we ever do a close comparison to OS X' backlight handling ?


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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 17:15:38 +0100,
 jfm...@free.fr wrote:

2)  It has an uninspiring installer.


In that it doesn't advertise enough features? (I remember seeing promos 
for joining Fedora as a contributor and Rythmbox when doing some repeated 
installs over the Thanksgiving weekend. But there was at least one more 
that I don't remember.)


Personally I don't expect to be inspired by an installer, but I think that 
perhaps additional promos could help people know where to get started 
with some things.



6)  Fedora hasn't managed to get the same kind of hype there is around  Ubuntu. 
 Partly
because of not benefitting of DEbian's propaganda network, partly because of 
points 2,3,4,5
and partly due to bad PR.


I think Fedora gets a lot of good PR, but not in the places the average user 
would notice. Linux Weekly News is very good to Fedora. We get a lot of 
coverage there and most of it is positive. We also have our own category 
for kernel type at bugzilla.kernel.org which says to me, that our kernel 
people work very well with upstream and keep our kernels very current so 
that bugs about them are of interest to upstream. Fedora is the only 
distribution to get this distiction.

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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread Alec Leamas

On 02/12/14 16:45, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:

On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 09:42:24AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:




So, a revised/enhanced/even worse set of questions:


[cut]


Some of those questions go too far imo and expose too much about the
individual machines and users.


While I think the privacy concerns are a core issue, wouldn't it make 
sense to leave this aside initially, trying to understand what kind of 
useful information we might need without any restraints?


We will later on face many limitations, privacy and trust is certainly 
some of those. But as a starter, why not try to think free?


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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 2 December 2014 at 09:15, jfm...@free.fr wrote:


 Fedora has a number of problems
 1) It hasn't managed inspire the same kind of fanaticism Debian has.  When
 in Debian something
 is broken,
 downright dangerous (eg signed packages came much later ) or just s..cks
 it is
 not a bug it is a feature.  Not such with Fedoora..


Oh it has its own fanaticism.. its just different and more nitpicky.


 2)  It has an uninspiring installer.


Ok I need more information on what this means in comparison to what? I have
installed pretty much every major Linux distribution and I have never found
any one of them 'inspiring'. Even the Ubuntu one is more of well at least
its not the base Debian installer versus OMG I am alive and free because
of this installer. So I need more information to understand what you are
saying.


 3)  A slow update manager and front ends aren't particularly attractive


Again.. I have found them all to be pretty slow and crappy. So what is in
your eye attractive.


 4)  After completing installation you have a lot more _unassisted_
 postinstallation
 configuration than in, say Suse or Mandriva.
 5)  Config tools are poorer than in Suse or Mandriva(BTW did you set a
 spy department with the
 task of keeping watch of what others were doing?) and are not task
 oriented.  For
 instance in Suse if I try to configure a Windows printer the installer
 will automatically
 check and install the Samba client packages.  And, just in case Fedora
 does that now
 for printers, Suse and Mandriva do things like that for about everything.


I missed this part completely last time I installed them. I am guessing I
must have skipped something obvious.


 6)  Fedora hasn't managed to get the same kind of hype there is around
 Ubuntu.  Partly
 because of not benefitting of DEbian's propaganda network, partly because
 of points 2,3,4,5
 and partly due to bad PR.


I think it is more that most of the Fedora developers aren't really
interested in hype and actively tamper it down if it occurs anywhere.
Better to set low expectations and consistently beat them versus set high
expectations and disappoint constantly. [Not that I think this is wise..
just my view of 10 years of Fedora and 8 years of Red Hat Linux before that]



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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 2 December 2014 at 09:22, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org
wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 05:15:38PM +0100, jfm...@free.fr wrote:
  Now it seems Fedora's downloads have been steadily going downwards
  and it is highly improbable that is due to a spectacular increase of
  number of people setting local mirrors.

 Smooge is working on some updated statistics, and from what I've seen,
 it's mostly flat, but not actually steadily downwards. More on the
 other things later. :)



Temporary URL for picture of things from 2007 til last month:

https://smooge.fedorapeople.org/stats-2014/

I am hoping to have a permanent url and updated set by next month.

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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 2 December 2014 at 10:29, Alec Leamas leamas.a...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 02/12/14 16:45, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 09:42:24AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:



 So, a revised/enhanced/even worse set of questions:


 [cut]

  Some of those questions go too far imo and expose too much about the
 individual machines and users.


 While I think the privacy concerns are a core issue, wouldn't it make
 sense to leave this aside initially, trying to understand what kind of
 useful information we might need without any restraints?

 We will later on face many limitations, privacy and trust is certainly
 some of those. But as a starter, why not try to think free?


Mainly because if you do that you sound like the NSA to most people these
days.

Privacy is like security. If you don't think about it at the startup trying
to implement it later is much more expensive or impossible. It also has
various legal implications which have to be worked through. Skipping that
and being free gets you a ton of wouldn't it be great if... that ends
up being bikeshedding because it can't be done.

Everything an organization collects has to deal with these two 'facts'.
There is no way to easily anonymize data that a set of high-school students
with a starter book in statistics can't undo in a week.
There is no way to easily remove data from gathered statistics any more
than it is possible to make the internet forget an email.

From that you have to figure out if collecting that information is viable
for a volunteer organization to later manage.


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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread Owen Taylor
On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 11:12 -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:


 On 2 December 2014 at 09:22, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org
 wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 05:15:38PM +0100, jfm...@free.fr
 wrote:
  Now it seems Fedora's downloads have been steadily going
 downwards
  and it is highly improbable that is due to a spectacular
 increase of
  number of people setting local mirrors.
 
 Smooge is working on some updated statistics, and from what
 I've seen,
 it's mostly flat, but not actually steadily downwards. More on
 the
 other things later. :)

 Temporary URL for picture of things from 2007 til last month:

 https://smooge.fedorapeople.org/stats-2014/

 I am hoping to have a permanent url and updated set by next month.

Is there some explanation why there the Fedora vs. Epel split in the
last graph so closely tracks the x86_32 vs. x86_64 split in the second
graph, as if all EPEL users were on x86_64 and all Fedora users were on
x86_32?

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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 2 December 2014 at 11:27, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 11:12 -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:


  On 2 December 2014 at 09:22, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org
  wrote:
  On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 05:15:38PM +0100, jfm...@free.fr
  wrote:
   Now it seems Fedora's downloads have been steadily going
  downwards
   and it is highly improbable that is due to a spectacular
  increase of
   number of people setting local mirrors.
 
  Smooge is working on some updated statistics, and from what
  I've seen,
  it's mostly flat, but not actually steadily downwards. More on
  the
  other things later. :)
 
  Temporary URL for picture of things from 2007 til last month:
 
  https://smooge.fedorapeople.org/stats-2014/
 
  I am hoping to have a permanent url and updated set by next month.

 Is there some explanation why there the Fedora vs. Epel split in the
 last graph so closely tracks the x86_32 vs. x86_64 split in the second
 graph, as if all EPEL users were on x86_64 and all Fedora users were on
 x86_32?


As far as I can tell its coincidence but I will double check to see if I am
plotting the wrong data somewhere.



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Re: Review swap

2014-12-02 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Thomas Spura toms...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 Taken.

 Could you review ptyprocess, which is a new dependency of python-pexpect:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1167830

Taken.  Thank you!
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Final Release Candidate 2 (RC2) Available Now!

2014-12-02 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Final Release Candidate 2
(RC2) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6031#comment:24 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Cloud:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test

Summary:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for each of
these test pages [2] should pass in order to meet the Final Release
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or on the test list [5].

Create Fedora 21 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6031

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Final_Release_Criteria
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Re: Power consumption with Fedora

2014-12-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:

 1) A problem is identified.
 2) Profile the problem and show where it might be happening.
 3) Some amount on fixing the problem is done.
 4) Find that the problem isn't there and there is no quick fix.
 5) Throw away that solution and implement another one.
 6) Deal with flame wars about any and all changes during this from people
 the problem doesn't occur to.

 Projects which use words like we before 3 or 4 usually never get to 3 or 4
 due to the amount of why is your problem now my work? response from
 everyone from developers to random people on the lists.

 Currently you are at 1, and you have tried to jump to 3 with the Arch
 solution. You need to profile the Arch solution to see if it really works or
 if it only works if you run an X11/twm and nothing fancier than Mosaic from
 1997. [Or without X11 at all.. that is the usual way to get a large power
 improvement on a laptop.]

Question: Shouldn't the evaluation and fix be targeted at Rawhide
first, and then see about backporting demonstrated fixes to Fedora
21? For all we know now, these could be significant new features. Or
alternatively a lot of work may have to be repeated if it turns out
the problems don't occur, or the solutions are radically different, if
Wayland is being used instead of X11.

Further, the sample size is two models. Identifying a common source
problem probably means looking at more hardware.

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Re: update on ca-certificates, introducing the ca-legacy utility

2014-12-02 Thread Kai Engert
On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 17:17 +0100, Kai Engert wrote:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ca-certificates-2014.2.1-1.5.fc19
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ca-certificates-2014.2.1-1.5.fc20

I'd appreciate more testing feedback.

I'd like to push these packages into the stable updates channel, soon.

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Re: Power consumption with Fedora

2014-12-02 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 06:30:57 +0100, Nathanael d. Noblet wrote:
 I don't know much about it but I hate how bad my battery life is on my
 laptop...

My 3 years old Lenovo X220 lasts for 12 hours (powertop reports so) on Fedora 20
x86_64 with powertop --auto-tune.  According to powertop approx. 5.5W is
display backlight and 1W is the rest of system.

Just to give a reply that Fedora is not bad on all configs/hardware.


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Re: Power consumption with Fedora

2014-12-02 Thread drago01
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote:
 Hi John,

 Power consumption is definitely an area that Fedora can improve, and an
 area where we've begun to do some investigation.

 Measuring battery life is hard, because when power saving is working,
 battery life depends so much on what the user is doing. Many
 manufacturers don't even provide battery life in their specifications
 or at most, provide a rough figure like battery lasts up to 10 hours.
 Doing what?

 I've begun writing a test suite that will simulate events of typical
 user activity (web browsing, word processing), so that we can at least
 know machine-to-machine or Fedora-version to Fedora-version how well we
 are doing with battery life. Comparing with a different operating system
 is hard, since we typically have no idea how claimed numbers are
 measured.

 The second part of trying to improve power management is getting an
 understanding of what actually uses power. powertop is impressive, but
 can't always be taken at face value. I have some idea that we could
 build up a database (or at least a wiki page or two) with detailed
 information on power usage for a few representative models so that we
 can get an idea about how we need to modify the system software.

 On my laptop (ASUS ux301la), various things surprised me:

  * The backlight eats a ton of battery - 4W for the display backlight
 and 1W for the keyboard backlight. If you are getting poor battery life,
 turn off the keyboard backlight and turn the screen down. But how do we
 fix this for all users? We used to be much more aggressive about screen
 dimming in GNOME, and it was really annoying. Can we find some happy
 medium?

  * Although most of the tunables in powertop did little that could be
 measured, the Enable SATA link power management tunable saves 2W(!) We
 need to consider whether this should be enabled by default, at least on
 battery.

This is like with most of those options a tradeoff between power
consumption and performance. Last time I tested it caused a large hit
on disk throughput but I didn't measure real world workloads. We
should do that for each of those options and decide between:

1) Performance impact is almost non existent - always enable
2) Impact small but affects some workloads - only battery
3) Like 2 but affects more workload or a bit more - only enable when
battery is beyond a threshold like android does with the power saving
mode in lollipop
4) It hurts to much its not worth bothering

So we need both performance and power usage measurements and draw and
pick one of the above options for each.
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Re: Update to Parole 0.6.x stable series - completed port to GTK+3

2014-12-02 Thread poma
On 02.12.2014 15:40, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 15:07:59 +0100
 poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 01.12.2014 15:22, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 ...
 If you read bug 1065457 (or the upstream xfce list) you will see
 that while this is a stable release of parole, it depends on a
 unstable delvelopment release (4.11.x) of libxfce4ui. 

 http://git.xfce.org/apps/parole/tree/configure.ac.in?id=0.6.1#n113
 m4_define([libxfce4ui_minimum_version],[4.10.0])
 m4_define([libxfce4util_minimum_version],[4.10.0])
 
 See: 
 
 http://git.xfce.org/apps/parole/tree/configure.ac.in?id=0.6.1#n133
 
 XDT_CHECK_PACKAGE([LIBXFCE4UI], [libxfce4ui-2], [4.10.0])
 
 libxfce4ui-2 is only provided by 4.11.x versions (no idea why they set
 the minimum to 4.10.0 there, there's no 4.10.0 version of libxfce4ui-2).
 
 kevin
 
 
 

You can't trust the source code.
Bummer.


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Re: Power consumption with Fedora

2014-12-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 2 December 2014 at 13:05, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  1) A problem is identified.
  2) Profile the problem and show where it might be happening.
  3) Some amount on fixing the problem is done.
  4) Find that the problem isn't there and there is no quick fix.
  5) Throw away that solution and implement another one.
  6) Deal with flame wars about any and all changes during this from people
  the problem doesn't occur to.
 
  Projects which use words like we before 3 or 4 usually never get to 3
 or 4
  due to the amount of why is your problem now my work? response from
  everyone from developers to random people on the lists.
 
  Currently you are at 1, and you have tried to jump to 3 with the Arch
  solution. You need to profile the Arch solution to see if it really
 works or
  if it only works if you run an X11/twm and nothing fancier than Mosaic
 from
  1997. [Or without X11 at all.. that is the usual way to get a large power
  improvement on a laptop.]

 Question: Shouldn't the evaluation and fix be targeted at Rawhide
 first, and then see about backporting demonstrated fixes to Fedora


It should always be in rawhide. I doubt that it would be ready anytime near
Fedora 22 or 23.

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Re: Power consumption with Fedora

2014-12-02 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 21:47 +0100, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
 On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 06:30:57 +0100, Nathanael d. Noblet wrote:
  I don't know much about it but I hate how bad my battery life is on my
  laptop...
 
 My 3 years old Lenovo X220 lasts for 12 hours (powertop reports so) on Fedora 
 20
 x86_64 with powertop --auto-tune.  According to powertop approx. 5.5W is
 display backlight and 1W is the rest of system.
 
 Just to give a reply that Fedora is not bad on all configs/hardware.

Well until yesterday I didn't know that Fedora didn't install /
configure any of these packages. I've installed tlp and powertop, I
didn't know powertop did anything other than monitor. I'll see what
powertop --auto-tune does. I don't even know if the tlp package has
enabled anything either. I wonder if having tlp installed and running
powertop --auto-tune will conflict / fight each other...

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Re: Power consumption with Fedora

2014-12-02 Thread Josh Stone
On 12/02/2014 12:05 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
 Question: Shouldn't the evaluation and fix be targeted at Rawhide
 first, and then see about backporting demonstrated fixes to Fedora

Beware of things like debug-enabled kernels though.  Rawhide runs a bit
slower for this, and more work means more power too, although I'm not
sure how significant that is in the long run.  Maybe compare with to the
nodebug kernels if you think you've found something.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RawhideKernelNodebug
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Re: Power consumption with Fedora

2014-12-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 14:44:59 -0700
Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca wrote:

 On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 21:47 +0100, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
  On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 06:30:57 +0100, Nathanael d. Noblet wrote:
   I don't know much about it but I hate how bad my battery life is
   on my laptop...
  
  My 3 years old Lenovo X220 lasts for 12 hours (powertop reports so)
  on Fedora 20 x86_64 with powertop --auto-tune.  According to
  powertop approx. 5.5W is display backlight and 1W is the rest of
  system.
  
  Just to give a reply that Fedora is not bad on all configs/hardware.
 
 Well until yesterday I didn't know that Fedora didn't install /
 configure any of these packages. I've installed tlp and powertop, I
 didn't know powertop did anything other than monitor. I'll see what
 powertop --auto-tune does. I don't even know if the tlp package has
 enabled anything either. I wonder if having tlp installed and running
 powertop --auto-tune will conflict / fight each other...
 
 Time to try stuff out.

You might also look at tuned... 

(I think it was mentioned early in the thread). 

tuned-adm profile powersave

Also: 

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html-single/Power_Management_Guide/index.html

Of course it would be nice if this stuff just did the right thing and
you didn't have to run any commands or read any guides. 

kevin


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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 2 December 2014 at 11:27, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 11:12 -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:


  On 2 December 2014 at 09:22, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org
  wrote:
  On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 05:15:38PM +0100, jfm...@free.fr
  wrote:
   Now it seems Fedora's downloads have been steadily going
  downwards
   and it is highly improbable that is due to a spectacular
  increase of
   number of people setting local mirrors.
 
  Smooge is working on some updated statistics, and from what
  I've seen,
  it's mostly flat, but not actually steadily downwards. More on
  the
  other things later. :)
 
  Temporary URL for picture of things from 2007 til last month:
 
  https://smooge.fedorapeople.org/stats-2014/
 
  I am hoping to have a permanent url and updated set by next month.

 Is there some explanation why there the Fedora vs. Epel split in the
 last graph so closely tracks the x86_32 vs. x86_64 split in the second
 graph, as if all EPEL users were on x86_64 and all Fedora users were on
 x86_32?


OK going over the raw data for 2014-10.. it is about

83.3% of EPEL users are x86_64
16.6% of EPEL users are i386
00.04% of EPEL users are ppc
00.06% of EPEL users have misconfigured yum


66.6% of Fedora users are x86_64
33.0% of Fedora users are i386
00.2% of Fedora users are arm
00.08% of Fedora users are ppc
00.02% of Fedora users are either unknown or s390/aarch64/etc

I will try and separate out the Fedora only architecture graphs this week.

Caveats are that these are people directly interfacing with mirrormanager
versus being configured to go against an internal mirror.

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[Test-Announce] F21 testing heads up: RC3 is coming, but RC2 tests are valid, please continue testing RC2

2014-12-02 Thread Adam Williamson
Just an F21 validation test status heads up.

We found a cosmetic but highly visible font issue in RC2:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169979 . The most obvious
effect is that at least the Workstation and KDE x86-64 lives use a
pretty ugly font 'Nimbus Mono L' as their default monospace font - the
one used in terminals and text editors, for e.g. - instead of the
intended default, DejaVu Sans Mono.

Fortunately we can workaround this problem for the live images pretty
easily and in a way which is very safe: just run fc-cache -f at the end
of the live compose process. We are now spinning RC3 with that change.
As the difference between RC2 and RC3 is so small, we're gonna say that
all RC2 testing is valid against RC3. Once the RC3 compose is done I'll
transfer the RC2 test results into the RC3 test matrix.

So, please just go ahead and carry on testing RC2 completely as normal.
Once RC3 comes out we can switch to testing those images.

The RC3 non-live images should be functionally identical to RC2.
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Re: Power consumption with Fedora

2014-12-02 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 15:23 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 14:44:59 -0700
 Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca wrote:
 
  On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 21:47 +0100, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
   On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 06:30:57 +0100, Nathanael d. Noblet wrote:
I don't know much about it but I hate how bad my battery life is
on my laptop...
   
   My 3 years old Lenovo X220 lasts for 12 hours (powertop reports so)
   on Fedora 20 x86_64 with powertop --auto-tune.  According to
   powertop approx. 5.5W is display backlight and 1W is the rest of
   system.
   
   Just to give a reply that Fedora is not bad on all configs/hardware.
  
  Well until yesterday I didn't know that Fedora didn't install /
  configure any of these packages. I've installed tlp and powertop, I
  didn't know powertop did anything other than monitor. I'll see what
  powertop --auto-tune does. I don't even know if the tlp package has
  enabled anything either. I wonder if having tlp installed and running
  powertop --auto-tune will conflict / fight each other...
  
  Time to try stuff out.
 
 You might also look at tuned... 
 
 (I think it was mentioned early in the thread). 
 
 tuned-adm profile powersave
 
 Also: 
 
 https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html-single/Power_Management_Guide/index.html
 
 Of course it would be nice if this stuff just did the right thing and
 you didn't have to run any commands or read any guides. 

Oh my I've barely started readind the above and its great... I wish I
knew of this long ago. Thanks for the pointers and mention of tuned.

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Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo meeting (2014-12-03 at 18UTC)

2014-12-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.

Links to all tickets below can be found at: 
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9

= Followups =

#topic ticket #1349 Fedora 22 scheduling strategy (and beyond)
.fesco 1349

#topic ticket #1369 packages should disable internal crash handlers and depend 
on ABRT 
.fesco 1369

= New business =

None

= Open Floor = 

For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket.  The
report of the agenda items can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9

If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco,
e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until
the following meeting.


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5tFTW: Fedora 21 release on track, new leadership and thanks to the old; counting users; more... (2014-12-02)

2014-12-02 Thread Matthew Miller
Reposted from http://fedoramagazine.org/5tftw-2014-12-02/.


Fedora is a big project, and it’s hard to keep up with everything that
goes on. This series highlights interesting happenings in five
different areas every week. It isn’t comprehensive news coverage — just
quick summaries with links to each. Here are the five things for
December 2nd, 2014:


Fedora 21 on track for Dec. 9!
--

Things are looking good for our scheduled December 9th release. We’re
in the process of validating release candidates, and everything seems
in great shape. (And it's not too late to join in: see the announcement
on the test list if you're interested in helping.) Assuming no
unexpected showstoppers, we’ll approve this as official at the Thursday
“Go / No-Go” meeting, and then it’ll be off to the mirror network for
release next Tuesday morning!

  * 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test-announce/2014-December/000962.html


Presenting the New Fedora Council
-

With the conclusion of the first round of elections, the new Fedora
Council is in place! If you’ve missed it (perhaps you’re just coming by
to see what’s up with the new Fedora 21 release and this happened while
you weren’t watching), read up on it on the Fedora Council wiki
page.

Five of the six full-vote members are in place:

-   **Elected Representative:**Rex Dieter
-   **Elected Representative:**Langdon White
-   **Engineering Representative:**Josh Boyer
-   **Outreach Representative:**   Christoph Wickert
-   **Fedora Project Leader:** Matthew Miller

The sixth seat is the **Fedora Community Action and Impact
Coordinator**, which will be a full-time position hired and funded by
Red Hat’s Open Source and Standards group. (More on this job opening
here:  

  * 
http://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-community-action-and-impact-job-opening-red-hat-osas/

The council also includes a number of *auxiliary seats*. As the Council
charter explains:

 They are intended to have significant positive impact on the project
 as a whole, but in order to minimize the overall influence of
 appointed positions vs. those selected by the community, their votes
 in the consensus process are expected to be related to the scope of
 the respective role.

One of these is the **Fedora Program Manager** — Jaroslav Resnik.
Another is the **Diversity Advisor**, a position for which we will be
appointing a search committee shortly. And finally, the Council will
select **Objective Leads** — more on that on my previous Fedora
Magazine post about project objectives.

  * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council
  * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:OSAS
  * http://fedoramagazine.org/lets-talk-about-fedora-project-objectives/


Thanks to the Outgoing Board


I want to offer a huge personal and also official thank you to all
previous members of the Fedora Project Board, whose care and dedication
have been instrumental in guiding Fedora to where we are today.

And I particularly want to thank the most recent board members —
Christoph Wickert, Garret Holmstrom, John Rose, Matthew Garrett, Eric
Chrstensen, Josh Boyer, Haïkel Guémar, and Neville Cross — and all
other project contributors who provided ideas, feedback, wisdom, and
significant effort in constructing the new governance model.


Fedora EMEA Gets Ready for F21
--

Jiří Eischmann has a blog post about getting the physical manifestation
of the Fedora release ready for the Europe / Middle East / Africa
region.

 I’ve been using Fedora 21 on my home computer since alpha, so it’s
 really nothing new for me, but I’m really excited about the release.
 In my opinion, it will be the most significant release since Fedora 7
 when Core and Extras got merged. It’s also been the most stable
 release of Fedora I’ve used.

 While Fedora QA guys are working on the final polishing as that F21
 can meet the final criteria, ambassadors are getting ready for the
 release. [...]

In addition to background notes about stickers, Jiří includes a preview
of the awesome F21 DVD sleeves designed by Alexander Smirnov (a.k.a.
“inkscaper”).

  * https://eischmann.wordpress.com/2014/11/27/getting-ready-for-fedora-21/


How many users does Fedora have?


Alec Leamas started an interesting discussion on the Fedora Devel list,
asking, “How many users does Fedora have?“. The answer is… we don’t
really know. This is notoriously hard to count, and Fedora has always
opted for more privacy-preserving options, something many in our
contributor community care very strongly about. Stephen Smoogen is
working on coming up with some graphs based on mirror traffic, but
that’s only part of the picture, and an imperfect one.

Finding useful metrics for progress towards project goals and then
iteratively acting to improve them is a powerful tool for making sure
that our effort goes towards what we want to do 

Re: Power consumption with Fedora

2014-12-02 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On 2 December 2014 at 10:06, Adam Jackson  wrote:
 On Mon, 2014-12-01 at 22:36 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:

 One related issue is suspend. It stopped working for me (on the same
 machine) at around Fedora 12. Just stays on the black screen on
 resume.

 12?  Five years ago?


Yeah pretty much. I still use the same hardware. From time to time I
try suspend just out of curiosity with different kernels, different
Fedoras. It suspends (I think), but never gets back. Never had a real
reason to get it working so...

 Not that I need the feature often, but there might be people who do.
 Is suspend supposed to work under normal circumstances?

 Of course it is.


Great, it's good to know I am an isolated case.

Best,
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[Test-Announce] 2014-12-03 @ 1600 UTC ** Conditional Blocker Review Meeting

2014-12-02 Thread Mike Ruckman
Greetings testers! Typically we'd have a blocker review meeting
tomorrow, but with Go/No-Go this Thursday and a pretty solid RC out and
being tested, we might not need one. Currently there are no proposed
blockers (and let's hope we've handled all of them), so we won't be
having a meeting.

OTOH, if we do find some tonight or before the meeting tomorrow we'll go
ahead and have the meeting to discuss whatever has been found.

Just wanted to give everyone a heads up. Thanks!

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Fedora 21 Final blocker status report #2

2014-12-02 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! Time for the second - and hopefully last - Fedora 21 blocker
status report.

First, the good news: we have no proposed blockers for F21 right now,
and all accepted blockers are 'addressed' (closed, or fixed in RC2/RC4),
except the special https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1168748 ,
and Bruno and I are already on the same page there.

That means there's no developer requests at this time.

We do, however, have QA work to do. Obviously the most important thing:
we need to do the validation testing on RC2/RC4 (RC2 results will be
counted as valid for RC4, so please test RC2 until RC4 is done; it's
baking right now. RC3 was a releng misfire, if anyone's wondering).

Aside from that, we need karma on just a couple of outstanding
blocker/FE fix updates:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15910/anaconda-21.48.21-1.fc21,pyparted-3.9.5-3.fc21,python-blivet-0.61.12-1.fc21
 - these are the anaconda  friends builds in RC2 and RC4, so they get a +1 
unless the installation process is worse than it was in TC4 (21.48.16)

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15946/fedora-release-notes-21.08-1.fc21
 - this is the latest (and hence probably final) release notes build. If you 
install the package, open the 'release notes' app, and you see things that look 
both note-y and release-y, you can +1 this.

Thanks folks! Here's hoping we get testing complete and signed off for
release on Thursday.
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Re: How many users does Fedora have?

2014-12-02 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
At the risk of jumping in, here's my own 2 cents on the subject...

On 12/03/2014 12:30 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
 
 
 On 2 December 2014 at 09:15, jfm...@free.fr mailto:jfm...@free.fr wrote:
 
 2)  It has an uninspiring installer.
 
 
 Ok I need more information on what this means in comparison to what? I
 have installed pretty much every major Linux distribution and I have
 never found any one of them 'inspiring'. Even the Ubuntu one is more of
 well at least its not the base Debian installer versus OMG I am alive
 and free because of this installer. So I need more information to
 understand what you are saying.
  
While the next-gen Anaconda in Fedora 21 is much improved since its
first iteration in Fedora 18, having just installed Ubuntu 14.04 on a
test VM in the same week, I must say the Ubuntu installer has an edge
mostly in aesthetics -- during the installation process, instead of a
small banner at the bottom for introducing the operating system, you get
an interactive grid of screenshots in the middle of the installation
window, with nice looking left and right toggles.


 
 3)  A slow update manager and front ends aren't particularly attractive
 
 
 Again.. I have found them all to be pretty slow and crappy. So what is
 in your eye attractive.
  
dnf (hopefully default in F22) and apt are both faster than yum, at
least subjectively. apt now has a really nice colored progress bar that
shows up at the bottom of the terminal when the installation is in progress.

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[Bug 1169369] CVE-2014-9130 libyaml: assert failure when processing wrapped strings

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169369

Tomas Hoger tho...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Whiteboard|impact=moderate,public=2014 |impact=moderate,public=2014
   |1126,reported=20141201,sour |1126,reported=20141201,sour
   |ce=oss-sec,cvss2=4.3/AV:N/A |ce=oss-sec,cvss2=4.3/AV:N/A
   |C:M/Au:N/C:N/I:N/A:P,cwe=CW |C:M/Au:N/C:N/I:N/A:P,cwe=CW
   |E-617,rhel-6/libyaml=defer, |E-617,rhel-6/libyaml=defer,
   |rhel-7/libyaml=defer,rhscl- |rhel-7/libyaml=defer,rhscl-
   |1/ruby193-libyaml=defer,rhs |1/libyaml=defer,fedora-all/
   |cl-1/libyaml=defer,fedora-a |libyaml=affected,epel-all/l
   |ll/libyaml=affected,epel-al |ibyaml=affected,mrg-1/libya
   |l/libyaml=affected,mrg-1/li |ml=new,mrg-2/libyaml=new,rh
   |byaml=new,mrg-2/libyaml=new |n_satellite_5.3/libyaml=def
   |,rhn_satellite_5.3/libyaml= |er,rhn_satellite_5.4/libyam
   |defer,rhn_satellite_5.4/lib |l=defer,rhn_satellite_5.5/l
   |yaml=defer,rhn_satellite_5. |ibyaml=defer,rhn_satellite_
   |5/libyaml=defer,rhn_satelli |5.6/libyaml=defer,rhn_satel
   |te_5.6/libyaml=defer,rhn_sa |lite_6/libyaml=defer,rhn_sa
   |tellite_6/libyaml=defer,rhn |tellite_6/ruby193-libyaml=d
   |_satellite_6/ruby193-libyam |efer,rhui-2/libyaml=defer,s
   |l=defer,rhui-2/libyaml=defe |am-1/libyaml=defer,cfme-5/m
   |r,sam-1/libyaml=defer,cfme- |ingw-libyaml=defer,cfme-5/r
   |5/mingw-libyaml=defer,cfme- |uby193-libyaml=defer,openst
   |5/ruby193-libyaml=defer,ope |ack-4/libyaml=new,openshift
   |nstack-3/libyaml=new,openst |-1/ruby193-libyaml=defer,fe
   |ack-3/ruby193-libyaml=new,o |dora-all/perl-YAML-LibYAML=
   |penstack-4/libyaml=new,open |new,epel-6/perl-YAML-LibYAM
   |shift-enterprise-1/ruby193- |L=new
   |libyaml=defer,openshift-1/r |
   |uby193-libyaml=defer,fedora |
   |-all/perl-YAML-LibYAML=new, |
   |epel-6/perl-YAML-LibYAML=ne |
   |w   |



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[Bug 1169648] perl-PAR-Packer conflicts with file from nss-tools

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169648

Petr Šabata psab...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE
Last Closed||2014-12-02 04:19:44



--- Comment #2 from Petr Šabata psab...@redhat.com ---
Yes, this is a known problem.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 987189 ***

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[Bug 1153134] FTBFS: No longer works with the current Lingua::EN::Numbers

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1153134

Fedora Admin XMLRPC Client fedora-admin-xml...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Assignee|extras-orphan@fedoraproject |psab...@redhat.com
   |.org|



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This package has changed ownership in the Fedora Package Database.  Reassigning
to the new owner of this component.

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File Data-Rmap-0.64.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by churchyard

2014-12-02 Thread Miro Hrončok
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Data-Rmap:

112c9e8b813259a4700815ca66342a78  Data-Rmap-0.64.tar.gz
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[perl-Data-Rmap] Update to 0.64 (#1167706)

2014-12-02 Thread Miro Hrončok
commit 9af16b95cf73330bc23bc4a98b68951f54ea8617
Author: Miro Hrončok m...@hroncok.cz
Date:   Tue Dec 2 10:34:11 2014 +0100

Update to 0.64 (#1167706)

 .gitignore  |1 +
 perl-Data-Rmap.spec |7 +--
 sources |2 +-
 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 075fc1a..a68966c 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1 +1,2 @@
 /Data-Rmap-0.62.tar.gz
+/Data-Rmap-0.64.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-Data-Rmap.spec b/perl-Data-Rmap.spec
index 94fdc5c..9989d96 100644
--- a/perl-Data-Rmap.spec
+++ b/perl-Data-Rmap.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Data-Rmap
-Version:0.62
-Release:9%{?dist}
+Version:0.64
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Recursive map, apply a block to a data structure
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -44,6 +44,9 @@ perl Build.PL installdirs=vendor
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Dec 02 2014 Miro Hrončok mhron...@redhat.com - 0.64-1
+- Update to 0.64 (#1167706)
+
 * Thu Aug 28 2014 Jitka Plesnikova jples...@redhat.com - 0.62-9
 - Perl 5.20 rebuild
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index ce1d49a..f27932d 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-320a299fc2a6561e11194adfcec29769  Data-Rmap-0.62.tar.gz
+112c9e8b813259a4700815ca66342a78  Data-Rmap-0.64.tar.gz
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[Bug 1167706] perl-Data-Rmap-0.64 is available

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1167706

Miro Hrončok mhron...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Data-Rmap-0.64-1.fc22
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2014-12-02 04:42:19



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[PkgDB] pghmcfc:perl-MooseX-Getopt watchbugzilla set to Approved

2014-12-02 Thread pkgdb
user: pghmcfc set for pghmcfc acl: watchbugzilla of package: perl-MooseX-Getopt 
from: Approved to: Approved on branch: el6

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[PkgDB] pghmcfc:perl-MooseX-Getopt commit set to Approved

2014-12-02 Thread pkgdb
user: pghmcfc set for pghmcfc acl: commit of package: perl-MooseX-Getopt from: 
Approved to: Approved on branch: el6

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[Bug 1153134] FTBFS: No longer works with the current Lingua::EN::Numbers

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1153134



--- Comment #6 from Petr Šabata psab...@redhat.com ---
Created attachment 963643
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Abandon the OO interface

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[Bug 1153134] FTBFS: No longer works with the current Lingua::EN::Numbers

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1153134

Petr Šabata psab...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

External Bug ID||CPAN 100659



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[perl-Lingua-EN-Numbers-Easy] Fix build with Lingua::EN::Numbers = 2.00 (#1153134)

2014-12-02 Thread Petr Šabata
commit 97eadfe4530ffba2c78f4f2df9dd3e8efc54312d
Author: Petr Šabata con...@redhat.com
Date:   Tue Dec 2 11:43:27 2014 +0100

Fix build with Lingua::EN::Numbers = 2.00 (#1153134)

- Modernize the package

 ...-Easy-2009110701-abandon-the-oo-interface.patch |   24 ++
 perl-Lingua-EN-Numbers-Easy.spec   |   34 ---
 2 files changed, 45 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/Lingua-EN-Numbers-Easy-2009110701-abandon-the-oo-interface.patch 
b/Lingua-EN-Numbers-Easy-2009110701-abandon-the-oo-interface.patch
new file mode 100644
index 000..a368531
--- /dev/null
+++ b/Lingua-EN-Numbers-Easy-2009110701-abandon-the-oo-interface.patch
@@ -0,0 +1,24 @@
+diff --git a/lib/Lingua/EN/Numbers/Easy.pm b/lib/Lingua/EN/Numbers/Easy.pm
+index 6926c14..7b2a9a8 100644
+--- a/lib/Lingua/EN/Numbers/Easy.pm
 b/lib/Lingua/EN/Numbers/Easy.pm
+@@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ no  warnings 'syntax';
+ our $VERSION = '2009110701';
+ our %N;
+ 
+-use Lingua::EN::Numbers 1.01;
++use Lingua::EN::Numbers 1.01 qw(num2en);
+ 
+ sub import {
+ my ($pkg, $hash) = grep {$_ ne 'American' and
+@@ -27,8 +27,8 @@ sub FETCH {
+ my $self  = shift;
+ my $value = shift;
+ return $self - {$value} if exists $self - {$value};
+-   (my $n = Lingua::EN::Numbers - new) - parse ($value) or return;
+-$self - {$value} = lc $n - get_string;
++my $n = num2en($value) or return;
++$self - {$value} = lc $n;
+ }
+ 
+ sub STORE{die}
diff --git a/perl-Lingua-EN-Numbers-Easy.spec b/perl-Lingua-EN-Numbers-Easy.spec
index 38f2fc5..e570a58 100644
--- a/perl-Lingua-EN-Numbers-Easy.spec
+++ b/perl-Lingua-EN-Numbers-Easy.spec
@@ -1,19 +1,25 @@
 Name:   perl-Lingua-EN-Numbers-Easy
 Version:2009110701
-Release:8%{?dist}
+Release:9%{?dist}
 Summary:Hash access to Lingua::EN::Numbers objects
 License:MIT
-Group:  Development/Libraries
 URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Lingua-EN-Numbers-Easy/
 Source0:
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/A/AB/ABIGAIL/Lingua-EN-Numbers-Easy-%{version}.tar.gz
+Patch0: 
Lingua-EN-Numbers-Easy-2009110701-abandon-the-oo-interface.patch
 BuildArch:  noarch
-BuildRequires:  perl = 0:5.006
-BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
+# Build
+BuildRequires:  perl
+BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) = 6.76
+BuildRequires:  perl(strict)
+BuildRequires:  perl(warnings)
+# Runtime
+BuildRequires:  perl(Lingua::EN::Numbers)
+# Tests only
+BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Kwalitee)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::More)
-BuildRequires:  perl(Lingua::EN::Numbers) = 1.01
-Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo 
$version))
-
-%{?perl_default_filter} # Filters (not)shared c libs
+BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Pod) = 1.00
+BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Pod::Coverage) = 1.00
+Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval $(perl -V:version); echo 
$version))
 
 %description
 Lingua::EN::Numbers is a module that translates numbers to English words.
@@ -23,27 +29,29 @@ to words using a tied hash, which can be interpolated.
 
 %prep
 %setup -q -n Lingua-EN-Numbers-Easy-%{version}
+%patch0 -p1
 
 %build
-%{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
+perl Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor NO_PACKLIST=1
 make %{?_smp_mflags}
 
 %install
 make pure_install DESTDIR=%{buildroot}
-
-find %{buildroot} -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} \;
-
 %{_fixperms} %{buildroot}/*
 
 %check
 make test
 
 %files
-%doc Changes
+%doc Changes README
 %{perl_vendorlib}/*
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Dec 02 2014 Petr Šabata con...@redhat.com - 2009110701-9
+- Fix build with Lingua::EN::Numbers = 2.00 (#1153134)
+- Modernize the package
+
 * Wed Aug 27 2014 Jitka Plesnikova jples...@redhat.com - 2009110701-8
 - Perl 5.20 rebuild
 
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[Bug 1153134] FTBFS: No longer works with the current Lingua::EN::Numbers

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1153134

Petr Šabata psab...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Lingua-EN-Numbers-Easy
   ||-2009110701-9.fc22
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2014-12-02 05:44:07



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[Bug 1169369] CVE-2014-9130 libyaml: assert failure when processing wrapped strings

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169369

Ján Rusnačko jrusn...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Whiteboard|impact=moderate,public=2014 |impact=moderate,public=2014
   |1126,reported=20141201,sour |1126,reported=20141201,sour
   |ce=oss-sec,cvss2=4.3/AV:N/A |ce=oss-sec,cvss2=4.3/AV:N/A
   |C:M/Au:N/C:N/I:N/A:P,cwe=CW |C:M/Au:N/C:N/I:N/A:P,cwe=CW
   |E-617,rhel-6/libyaml=defer, |E-617,rhel-6/libyaml=defer,
   |rhel-7/libyaml=defer,rhscl- |rhel-7/libyaml=defer,rhscl-
   |1/libyaml=defer,fedora-all/ |1/libyaml=defer,fedora-all/
   |libyaml=affected,epel-all/l |libyaml=affected,epel-all/l
   |ibyaml=affected,mrg-1/libya |ibyaml=affected,mrg-1/libya
   |ml=new,mrg-2/libyaml=new,rh |ml=new,mrg-2/libyaml=new,rh
   |n_satellite_5.3/libyaml=def |n_satellite_5.3/libyaml=def
   |er,rhn_satellite_5.4/libyam |er,rhn_satellite_5.4/libyam
   |l=defer,rhn_satellite_5.5/l |l=defer,rhn_satellite_5.5/l
   |ibyaml=defer,rhn_satellite_ |ibyaml=defer,rhn_satellite_
   |5.6/libyaml=defer,rhn_satel |5.6/libyaml=defer,rhn_satel
   |lite_6/libyaml=defer,rhn_sa |lite_6/libyaml=defer,rhn_sa
   |tellite_6/ruby193-libyaml=d |tellite_6/ruby193-libyaml=d
   |efer,rhui-2/libyaml=defer,s |efer,rhui-2/libyaml=defer,s
   |am-1/libyaml=defer,cfme-5/m |am-1/libyaml=defer,cfme-5/m
   |ingw-libyaml=defer,cfme-5/r |ingw-libyaml=defer,cfme-5/r
   |uby193-libyaml=defer,openst |uby193-libyaml=defer,openst
   |ack-4/libyaml=new,openshift |ack-4/libyaml=new,openshift
   |-1/ruby193-libyaml=defer,fe |-1/ruby193-libyaml=defer,fe
   |dora-all/perl-YAML-LibYAML= |dora-all/perl-YAML-LibYAML=
   |new,epel-6/perl-YAML-LibYAM |affected,epel-6/perl-YAML-L
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[Bug 1169369] CVE-2014-9130 libyaml: assert failure when processing wrapped strings

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169369



--- Comment #4 from Ján Rusnačko jrusn...@redhat.com ---
References:

https://bitbucket.org/xi/libyaml/issue/10/wrapped-strings-cause-assert-failure
http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2014/11/28/1
https://github.com/yaml/libyaml/commit/e6aa721cc0e5a48f408c5239fd36780ba32a

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[Bug 1169369] CVE-2014-9130 libyaml: assert failure when processing wrapped strings

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169369

Ján Rusnačko jrusn...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Whiteboard|impact=moderate,public=2014 |impact=moderate,public=2014
   |1126,reported=20141201,sour |1126,reported=20141201,sour
   |ce=oss-sec,cvss2=4.3/AV:N/A |ce=oss-sec,cvss2=4.3/AV:N/A
   |C:M/Au:N/C:N/I:N/A:P,cwe=CW |C:M/Au:N/C:N/I:N/A:P,cwe=CW
   |E-617,rhel-6/libyaml=defer, |E-617,rhel-6/libyaml=defer,
   |rhel-7/libyaml=defer,rhscl- |rhel-7/libyaml=defer,rhscl-
   |1/libyaml=defer,fedora-all/ |1/libyaml=defer,fedora-all/
   |libyaml=affected,epel-all/l |libyaml=affected,epel-all/l
   |ibyaml=affected,mrg-1/libya |ibyaml=affected,mrg-1/libya
   |ml=new,mrg-2/libyaml=new,rh |ml=new,mrg-2/libyaml=new,rh
   |n_satellite_5.3/libyaml=def |n_satellite_5.3/libyaml=def
   |er,rhn_satellite_5.4/libyam |er,rhn_satellite_5.4/libyam
   |l=defer,rhn_satellite_5.5/l |l=defer,rhn_satellite_5.5/l
   |ibyaml=defer,rhn_satellite_ |ibyaml=defer,rhn_satellite_
   |5.6/libyaml=defer,rhn_satel |5.6/libyaml=defer,rhn_satel
   |lite_6/libyaml=defer,rhn_sa |lite_6/libyaml=defer,rhn_sa
   |tellite_6/ruby193-libyaml=d |tellite_6/ruby193-libyaml=d
   |efer,rhui-2/libyaml=defer,s |efer,rhui-2/libyaml=defer,s
   |am-1/libyaml=defer,cfme-5/m |am-1/libyaml=defer,cfme-5/m
   |ingw-libyaml=defer,cfme-5/r |ingw-libyaml=defer,cfme-5/r
   |uby193-libyaml=defer,openst |uby193-libyaml=defer,openst
   |ack-4/libyaml=new,openshift |ack-4/libyaml=new,openshift
   |-1/ruby193-libyaml=defer,fe |-1/ruby193-libyaml=defer,fe
   |dora-all/perl-YAML-LibYAML= |dora-all/perl-YAML-LibYAML=
   |affected,epel-6/perl-YAML-L |affected,epel-6/perl-YAML-L
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[Bug 1169369] CVE-2014-9130 libyaml: assert failure when processing wrapped strings

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169369

Ján Rusnačko jrusn...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Depends On||1169750
 Depends On||1169751



--- Comment #5 from Ján Rusnačko jrusn...@redhat.com ---

Created perl-YAML-LibYAML tracking bugs for this issue:

Affects: fedora-all [bug 1169750]
Affects: epel-6 [bug 1169751]


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169750
[Bug 1169750] CVE-2014-9130 perl-YAML-LibYAML: libyaml: assert failure when
processing wrapped strings [fedora-all]
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169751
[Bug 1169751] CVE-2014-9130 perl-YAML-LibYAML: libyaml: assert failure when
processing wrapped strings [epel-6]
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[Bug 1169750] New: CVE-2014-9130 perl-YAML-LibYAML: libyaml: assert failure when processing wrapped strings [fedora-all]

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169750

Bug ID: 1169750
   Summary: CVE-2014-9130 perl-YAML-LibYAML: libyaml: assert
failure when processing wrapped strings [fedora-all]
   Product: Fedora
   Version: 20
 Component: perl-YAML-LibYAML
  Keywords: Security, SecurityTracking
  Severity: medium
  Priority: medium
  Assignee: jples...@redhat.com
  Reporter: jrusn...@redhat.com
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: jples...@redhat.com, p...@city-fan.org,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Blocks: 1169369 (CVE-2014-9130)




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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169369
[Bug 1169369] CVE-2014-9130 libyaml: assert failure when processing wrapped
strings
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[Bug 1169750] CVE-2014-9130 perl-YAML-LibYAML: libyaml: assert failure when processing wrapped strings [fedora-all]

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169750



--- Comment #1 from Ján Rusnačko jrusn...@redhat.com ---

Use the following template to for the 'fedpkg update' request to submit an
update for this issue as it contains the top-level parent bug(s) as well as
this tracking bug.  This will ensure that all associated bugs get updated
when new packages are pushed to stable.

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# bugfix, security, enhancement, newpackage (required)
type=security

# testing, stable
request=testing

# Bug numbers: 1234,9876
bugs=1169369,1169750

# Description of your update
notes=Security fix for CVE-2014-9130

# Enable request automation based on the stable/unstable karma thresholds
autokarma=True
stable_karma=3
unstable_karma=-3

# Automatically close bugs when this marked as stable
close_bugs=True

# Suggest that users restart after update
suggest_reboot=False

==

Additionally, you may opt to use the bodhi update submission link instead:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/new/?type_=securitybugs=1169369,1169750

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[Bug 1166788] CVE-2010-5312 perl-Mojolicious: jquery-ui: XSS vulnerability in jQuery.ui.dialog title option [fedora-all]

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1166788

Emmanuel Seyman emman...@seyman.fr changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG
Last Closed||2014-12-02 06:23:52



--- Comment #3 from Emmanuel Seyman emman...@seyman.fr ---
perl-Mojolicious does not use jQuery UI.

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[Bug 1166041] CVE-2010-5312 jquery-ui: XSS vulnerability in jQuery.ui.dialog title option

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1166041
Bug 1166041 depends on bug 1166788, which changed state.

Bug 1166788 Summary: CVE-2010-5312 perl-Mojolicious: jquery-ui: XSS 
vulnerability in jQuery.ui.dialog title option [fedora-all]
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1166788

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG



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[Bug 1166064] CVE-2012-6662 jquery-ui: XSS vulnerability in default content in Tooltip widget

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1166064
Bug 1166064 depends on bug 1166788, which changed state.

Bug 1166788 Summary: CVE-2010-5312 perl-Mojolicious: jquery-ui: XSS 
vulnerability in jQuery.ui.dialog title option [fedora-all]
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1166788

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG



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[perl-YAML-LibYAML/f21] (5 commits) ...Merge branch 'f21' of ssh://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/perl-YAML-LibYAML into f21

2014-12-02 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes:

  b83d119... Perl 5.20 rebuild (*)
  d1009bb... Update BRs (bz#1165198) (*)
  b6c7bcd... Update to 0.54 (*)
  2dae534... Add changelog reference to CVE-2014-9130 (*)
  ac91eed... Merge branch 'f21' of ssh://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/perl-YAM

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[perl-YAML-LibYAML/f21: 5/5] Merge branch 'f21' of ssh://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/perl-YAML-LibYAML into f21

2014-12-02 Thread Paul Howarth
commit ac91eeded407f0c0254514161c605f3c5f567753
Merge: 2dae534 f4b85ff
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date:   Tue Dec 2 11:31:03 2014 +

Merge branch 'f21' of ssh://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/perl-YAML-LibYAML into 
f21

Conflicts:
perl-YAML-LibYAML.spec

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[Bug 1169369] CVE-2014-9130 libyaml: assert failure when processing wrapped strings

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169369

Ján Rusnačko jrusn...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Whiteboard|impact=moderate,public=2014 |impact=moderate,public=2014
   |1126,reported=20141201,sour |1126,reported=20141201,sour
   |ce=oss-sec,cvss2=4.3/AV:N/A |ce=oss-sec,cvss2=4.3/AV:N/A
   |C:M/Au:N/C:N/I:N/A:P,cwe=CW |C:M/Au:N/C:N/I:N/A:P,cwe=CW
   |E-617,rhel-6/libyaml=defer, |E-617,rhel-6/libyaml=defer,
   |rhel-7/libyaml=defer,rhscl- |rhel-7/libyaml=defer,rhscl-
   |1/libyaml=defer,fedora-all/ |1/libyaml=defer,fedora-all/
   |libyaml=affected,epel-all/l |libyaml=affected,epel-all/l
   |ibyaml=affected,mrg-1/libya |ibyaml=affected,mrg-1/libya
   |ml=new,mrg-2/libyaml=new,rh |ml=new,mrg-2/libyaml=new,rh
   |n_satellite_5.3/libyaml=def |n_satellite_5.3/libyaml=def
   |er,rhn_satellite_5.4/libyam |er,rhn_satellite_5.4/libyam
   |l=defer,rhn_satellite_5.5/l |l=defer,rhn_satellite_5.5/l
   |ibyaml=defer,rhn_satellite_ |ibyaml=defer,rhn_satellite_
   |5.6/libyaml=defer,rhn_satel |5.6/libyaml=defer,rhn_satel
   |lite_6/libyaml=defer,rhn_sa |lite_6/libyaml=defer,rhn_sa
   |tellite_6/ruby193-libyaml=d |tellite_6/ruby193-libyaml=d
   |efer,rhui-2/libyaml=defer,s |efer,rhui-2/libyaml=defer,s
   |am-1/libyaml=defer,cfme-5/m |am-1/libyaml=defer,cfme-5/m
   |ingw-libyaml=defer,cfme-5/r |ingw-libyaml=defer,cfme-5/r
   |uby193-libyaml=defer,openst |uby193-libyaml=defer,openst
   |ack-4/libyaml=new,openshift |ack-4/libyaml=new,openstack
   |-1/ruby193-libyaml=defer,fe |-5/libyaml=new,openshift-1/
   |dora-all/perl-YAML-LibYAML= |ruby193-libyaml=defer,fedor
   |affected,epel-6/perl-YAML-L |a-all/perl-YAML-LibYAML=aff
   |ibYAML=affected |ected,epel-6/perl-YAML-LibY
   ||AML=affected,epel-7/perl-YA
   ||ML-LibYAML=new



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[perl-YAML-LibYAML] (2 commits) ...Merge branch 'f21' of ssh://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/perl-YAML-LibYAML into f21

2014-12-02 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes:

  f4b85ff... Update BRs (bz#1165198) (*)
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[perl-YAML-LibYAML/f20] (14 commits) ...Merge branch 'f21' of ssh://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/perl-YAML-LibYAML into f21

2014-12-02 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes:

  137b97d... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Mass (*)
  5746ee9... 0.44 bump (*)
  543e56a... 0.45 bump (*)
  6b411ca... 0.46 bump (*)
  22429aa... Update to 0.47 (*)
  4c0f0ea... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_22_M (*)
  294e189... Update to 0.51 (various minor tidy-ups, no functional chang (*)
  b732361... Update to 0.52 (*)
  b83d119... Perl 5.20 rebuild (*)
  d1009bb... Update BRs (bz#1165198) (*)
  f4b85ff... Update BRs (bz#1165198) (*)
  b6c7bcd... Update to 0.54 (*)
  2dae534... Add changelog reference to CVE-2014-9130 (*)
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[perl-YAML-LibYAML/f19] (14 commits) ...Merge branch 'f21' of ssh://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/perl-YAML-LibYAML into f21

2014-12-02 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes:

  137b97d... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Mass (*)
  5746ee9... 0.44 bump (*)
  543e56a... 0.45 bump (*)
  6b411ca... 0.46 bump (*)
  22429aa... Update to 0.47 (*)
  4c0f0ea... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_22_M (*)
  294e189... Update to 0.51 (various minor tidy-ups, no functional chang (*)
  b732361... Update to 0.52 (*)
  b83d119... Perl 5.20 rebuild (*)
  d1009bb... Update BRs (bz#1165198) (*)
  f4b85ff... Update BRs (bz#1165198) (*)
  b6c7bcd... Update to 0.54 (*)
  2dae534... Add changelog reference to CVE-2014-9130 (*)
  ac91eed... Merge branch 'f21' of ssh://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/perl-YAM (*)

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[Bug 1168181] Please package perl-Cache-Memcached into EL7

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1168181



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perl-Cache-Memcached-1.30-8.el7 has been submitted as an update for Fedora EPEL
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[perl-YAML-LibYAML] Created tag perl-YAML-LibYAML-0.54-1.fc19

2014-12-02 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-YAML-LibYAML-0.54-1.fc19' was created pointing to:

 ac91eed... Merge branch 'f21' of ssh://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/perl-YAM
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[perl-YAML-LibYAML] Created tag perl-YAML-LibYAML-0.54-1.fc21

2014-12-02 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-YAML-LibYAML-0.54-1.fc21' was created pointing to:

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[perl-YAML-LibYAML] Created tag perl-YAML-LibYAML-0.54-1.fc20

2014-12-02 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-YAML-LibYAML-0.54-1.fc20' was created pointing to:

 ac91eed... Merge branch 'f21' of ssh://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/perl-YAM
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[perl-YAML-LibYAML/epel7] (14 commits) ...Merge branch 'f21' of ssh://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/perl-YAML-LibYAML into f21

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Summary of changes:

  137b97d... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Mass (*)
  5746ee9... 0.44 bump (*)
  543e56a... 0.45 bump (*)
  6b411ca... 0.46 bump (*)
  22429aa... Update to 0.47 (*)
  4c0f0ea... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_22_M (*)
  294e189... Update to 0.51 (various minor tidy-ups, no functional chang (*)
  b732361... Update to 0.52 (*)
  b83d119... Perl 5.20 rebuild (*)
  d1009bb... Update BRs (bz#1165198) (*)
  f4b85ff... Update BRs (bz#1165198) (*)
  b6c7bcd... Update to 0.54 (*)
  2dae534... Add changelog reference to CVE-2014-9130 (*)
  ac91eed... Merge branch 'f21' of ssh://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/perl-YAM (*)

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[Bug 1169750] CVE-2014-9130 perl-YAML-LibYAML: libyaml: assert failure when processing wrapped strings [fedora-all]

2014-12-02 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169750



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perl-YAML-LibYAML-0.54-1.fc19 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 19.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-YAML-LibYAML-0.54-1.fc19

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