Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread stan
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:11:21 -0700 stan wrote: > The other thing, is there a way to put the responses in threaded mode, > so they are in context like a tree, the way a newsreader would do it. > The display seems to be a posting time based stream of responses. > Maybe there is a cue I'm missing th

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Björn Persson wrote: > Ben Rosser wrote: >> 2) What's the migration strategy look like? Can users on the mailing >> lists be automatically added to the relevant discourse lists? > > Can the mailing lists be transferred from Mailman to Discourse and > continue to b

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread stan
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:11:21 -0700 stan wrote: > I couldn't find a way to move to the next topic from within the > current topic. I had to do a u, then a down arrow, then an enter. This is wrong. I did u and then had to click on a topic. It didn't put the focus on the previous topic.

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Björn Persson
Ben Rosser wrote: > 2) What's the migration strategy look like? Can users on the mailing > lists be automatically added to the relevant discourse lists? Can the mailing lists be transferred from Mailman to Discourse and continue to be the *same* mailing list, with the same address and the same li

Fedora 29-20181016.n.0 compose check report

2018-10-16 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 5/133 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm) ID: 296739 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso modularity_tests URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/296739 ID: 296768 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_browser URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread stan
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 13:27:12 -0700 "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: > Press the ? key and a window will pop up with all the keyboard > shutcuts I couldn't find a way to move to the next topic from within the current topic. I had to do a u, then a down arrow, then an enter. That is, I finished reading a

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 01:35:01PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > Ah nice side-thing I just found out, discussion.fedoraproject.org does > not show *anything* unless I let my browser access this website > http://discourse-cdn-sjc1.com That's because we're using the hosted option. We could instead deci

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Tuesday, 16 October 2018 at 19:35, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 13:31 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 07:12 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 9:21 AM Matthew Miller > > > wrote: > > > ... > > > > That's why the general trend is *away* from

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:59 AM stan wrote: > On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 08:51:33 -0700 > "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: > > > Yeah, based upon the trial and previous comments I knew it was being > > considered. The point > > of my thread was that many people probably haven't taken the time to > > checkout t

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread stan
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 08:51:33 -0700 "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: > Yeah, based upon the trial and previous comments I knew it was being > considered. The point > of my thread was that many people probably haven't taken the time to > checkout the Fedora Discourse > website or read the Foreman analysis t

Fonts packaging macros rework early peek

2018-10-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Hi, To all that may concern (mainly, packagers of things that include font files). I’m currently reworking the font automation I created for Fedora 10 years ago. You can get an early peek at the result here: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/nim/fontpackages-2/ The main objectives of the

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:39 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 1:35 PM Simo Sorce wrote: > > > > Ah nice side-thing I just found out, discussion.fedoraproject.org does > > not show *anything* unless I let my browser access this website > > http://discourse-cdn-sjc1.com > > > > That

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:32 AM Simo Sorce wrote: > On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 07:12 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > From the foreman post, in the comments: > Email interface does not really work, there should be rather called > “notifications”. You must visit the site eventually. > > I perso

Re: What to do about sagemath

2018-10-16 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 16.10.2018 19:17, Jerry James wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 9:51 AM Jerry James wrote: Sadly, no. Here is the challenge, Python aficionados. The attached file, test.pyx, can be processed like this on Fedora 28 with Cython 0.28.4: "cythonize -3 test.pyx". That succeeds and generates code

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 1:35 PM Simo Sorce wrote: > > Ah nice side-thing I just found out, discussion.fedoraproject.org does > not show *anything* unless I let my browser access this website > http://discourse-cdn-sjc1.com > > That doesn't feel right. > Fedora is not hosting its Discourse instanc

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 13:31 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 07:12 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 9:21 AM Matthew Miller > > wrote: > > ... > > > That's why the general trend is *away* from email. > > > > > > The Foreman community recently switched away fro

Re: What to do about sagemath

2018-10-16 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:17 AM Jerry James wrote: > On Rawhide with Cython 0.29rc2, that fails as noted earlier in this > thread. The name PyLongObject cannot be imported with cimport. How > does the code need to change to compute the same result? I should have tried figuring this out for jus

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 07:12 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 9:21 AM Matthew Miller > wrote: > ... > > That's why the general trend is *away* from email. > > > > The Foreman community recently switched away from mailing lists in this > > way, > > and > > https://theforeman.o

Re: What to do about sagemath

2018-10-16 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 9:51 AM Jerry James wrote: > Sadly, no. Here is the challenge, Python aficionados. The attached file, test.pyx, can be processed like this on Fedora 28 with Cython 0.28.4: "cythonize -3 test.pyx". That succeeds and generates code that Does The Right Thing. On Rawhide wi

Fedora 29 compose report: 20181016.n.0 changes

2018-10-16 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-29-20181014.n.0 NEW: Fedora-29-20181016.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 1 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 0 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:0 B Size of upgraded

[Modularity] Working Group IRC meeting minutes (2018-10-16)

2018-10-16 Thread Nils Philippsen
= #fedora-meeting-3: Weekly Meeting of the Modularity Working Group = Meeting started by nils at 14:00:00 UTC. Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meetin

Re: What to do about sagemath

2018-10-16 Thread Jerry James
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 1:36 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > Would changing to: > > cdef const digit* D = x.ob_digit > > do? Sadly, no. Error compiling Cython file: ... return 1 err[0] = ERR_TYPE return 0

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 8:41 AM Ben Cotton wrote: > > Council is considering it, and CommOps just started a 2-month > experiment to see how it goes. It makes sense to me that we wait and > see how those go before we start considering larger moves. I'm worried > in particular about larger lists su

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:30 AM Ben Rosser wrote: > > I am not saying switching to Discourse is a *bad* idea. I am saying > that I, at least, would like to see a more serious proposal than > simply "just do it because it's better". That might require switching > one list over and seeing how well

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Ben Rosser
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:12 AM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > Did you checkout the Fedora Discourse site and read the Foreman analysis that > Matt provided? Unless I'm missing something, I am not sure that either of these things answers my questions. I am not asking the question "will switching to Dis

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 8:06 AM Ben Rosser wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:39 AM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > But RSS really isn't the point of this thread. My point is that Fedora > should move to Discourse. It's a much better solution for > > discussion. We should publish a timeline and jus

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Ben Rosser
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:39 AM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > But RSS really isn't the point of this thread. My point is that Fedora > should move to Discourse. It's a much better solution for > discussion. We should publish a timeline and just do it. Fedora should not "just do it" because "it's a

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 8:39 AM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 7:25 AM Chris Murphy > wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 8:13 AM Gerald B. Cox wrote: >> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 9:21 AM Matthew Miller >>> wrote: >>> ... >>> > That's why the general trend is *away*

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mar 16 ott 2018 alle 16:39, "Gerald B. Cox" ha scritto: On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 7:25 AM Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 8:13 AM Gerald B. Cox wrote: On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 9:21 AM Matthew Miller wrote: ... > That's why the general trend is *away* from email. >

Re: how to detect Atomic Rawhide?

2018-10-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 16.10.18 16:43, Miroslav Suchý (msu...@redhat.com) wrote: > Dne 16.10.2018 v 16:11 Lennart Poettering napsal(a): > > Quite frankly, you are doing it wrong. > > It's not me. It is either author of python-distro or mantainers of > fedora-release. > But you are right, *someone* is doing *som

Re: To be or not to be... supervisor 4.0

2018-10-16 Thread Fran Tsao Santín
El dom., 14 oct. 2018 a las 16:11, Neal Gompa () escribió: > > My question is, must we maintain (at rawhide) the 3.3.4 release with the > > python2 dependencies until that release? Or can I come early with the > > work and introduce the 4.0.0.dev0 now (and remove python2 dependecies)? > > > > If t

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mar 16 ott 2018 alle 16:12, "Gerald B. Cox" ha scritto: On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 9:21 AM Matthew Miller wrote: ... > That's why the general trend is *away* from email. > > The Foreman community recently switched away from mailing lists in this way, > and https://theforeman.org/2

Re: how to detect Atomic Rawhide?

2018-10-16 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 16.10.2018 v 16:11 Lennart Poettering napsal(a): > Quite frankly, you are doing it wrong. It's not me. It is either author of python-distro or mantainers of fedora-release. But you are right, *someone* is doing *something* wrong. I am just trying to figure what is "someone" and "something".

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 7:25 AM Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 8:13 AM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > >> >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 9:21 AM Matthew Miller >> wrote: >> ... >> > That's why the general trend is *away* from email. >> > >> > The Foreman community recently switched away from

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 8:13 AM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 9:21 AM Matthew Miller > wrote: > ... > > That's why the general trend is *away* from email. > > > > The Foreman community recently switched away from mailing lists in this > way, > > and > https://theforeman.org/2018/

Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 9:21 AM Matthew Miller wrote: ... > That's why the general trend is *away* from email. > > The Foreman community recently switched away from mailing lists in this way, > and https://theforeman.org/2018/07/discourse-6-months-on-impact-assesment.html > is really interesting an

Re: how to detect Atomic Rawhide?

2018-10-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 16.10.18 16:03, Miroslav Suchý (msu...@redhat.com) wrote: > Hi, > in DNF's Copr plugin we are detecting whether you are running in Rawhide or > not, so we can enable you rawhide chroot (or > numbered). > > We use this code: > > import distro > distro.linux_distribution(full_distribut

how to detect Atomic Rawhide?

2018-10-16 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Hi, in DNF's Copr plugin we are detecting whether you are running in Rawhide or not, so we can enable you rawhide chroot (or numbered). We use this code: import distro distro.linux_distribution(full_distribution_name=False) which returns triplet: ('Fedora', '30', 'Rawhide') ('Fedora', '

Re: Installation image layout

2018-10-16 Thread Martin Kolman
On Fri, 2018-10-12 at 15:53 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2018-10-12 at 15:44 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 4:30 AM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > > wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 09:24:08PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > I'm pretty sure the original rea

Re: Installation image layout

2018-10-16 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > Hi all! > > I'm new on this list. I work on Qubes OS, where Fedora is used as a base > distribution. Tangentially: Qubes is very cool and I'm glad you find Fedora useful as a base system. I work on Fedora CoreOS and have patch

Re: raise fileno limit to make Steam Proton / Wine+esync work well in Fedora

2018-10-16 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 7:34 PM Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mo, 15.10.18 18:00, Kamil Paral (kpa...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:15 PM Lennart Poettering > > wrote: > > > > > On Di, 09.10.18 14:45, Anderson, Charles R (c...@wpi.edu) wrote: > > > > > > > > It would be nice

Fedora Rawhide-20181015.n.1 compose check report

2018-10-16 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 11/133 (x86_64), 2/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20181014.n.0): ID: 296320 Test: x86_64 universal install_repository_http_graphical URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/296320 ID: 296380 Test

retiring gettext-commons (java/maven FTBFS)

2018-10-16 Thread Jens-Ulrik Petersen
Heads-up that I intend to retire 'gettext-commons' which no longer builds and I believe is not used by anything in the distro. If that is not the case please shout out, otherwise I will try to drop it by the end of this week. Thanks, Jens ___ devel mail

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20181015.n.1 changes

2018-10-16 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20181014.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20181015.n.1 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 1 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 102 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 302.59 MiB Size of dropped packages:0