Máirín Duffy wrote:
> So our Hyperkitty version is old here. I can't reporduce the issue on
> mailman3.org's HK, which is newer. I suspect this is a bug that's been fixed.
Indeed it was. An infrastructure ticket was filed ~7 months
back¹ and the issue was addressed upstream in 7558682 ("Fix
quot
> On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 13:14 -0400, Randy Barlow (manually corrected) wrote:
>
> I'm curious what is insufficient about Hyperkitty that Discourse does
> well at.
A lot of stuff.
If you try any Discourse website out there you'll see it immediately.
Just an example.
In Hyperkitty, when a new unr
> I'm replying from Hyperkitty interface.
>
> I clicked on Quote to quote your email, Randy, but your words appear as
> written by
> Matthew. Not good...
> Also it seems there's no way to mark a thread as read/unread or special.
> I have the feeling that following a list in Hyperkitty is almost i
So our Hyperkitty version is old here. I can't reporduce the issue on
mailman3.org's HK, which is newer. I suspect this is a bug that's been fixed.
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> On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 13:14 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> I'm curious what is insufficient about Hyperkitty that Discourse does
> well at. Wasn't Hyperkitty supposed to give people the forum
> experience? I admit I haven't used it that much for reading or posting
> (though I do use it for arc
Il giorno ven 19 ott 2018 alle 5:53, =?iso-8859-1?b?TeFpcu1u?= Duffy
ha scritto:
I'm concerned that those proposing Discourse seem to not have used
Hyperkitty at length.
I'm one of those.
I've never used Hyperkitty before, but I'll give it a try now.
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> On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 11:27:02PM -, Ray Strode wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, all is not rosy there. See this thread on the users' list
> from this fall about confusion with hyperkitty quoting:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.o...
It's hilarious readin
I'm open to all of those suggestions as well as committing to design and CSS
work for them. I would need a web dev to help me though; I'm not great with
Django.
Please note, the reason Hyperkitty didn't cause this sort of thread or honestly
any sort of drama or controversy when it was deployed
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 9:11 PM Randy Barlow
wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 14:04 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > Here is a link to discourse features:
> > https://www.discourse.org/features
> >
> > I view hyperkitty as just a web interface for mailing lists - not
> > much more
> > than that.
>
On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 14:04 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> Here is a link to discourse features:
> https://www.discourse.org/features
>
> I view hyperkitty as just a web interface for mailing lists - not
> much more
> than that.
> Discourse provides a more complete conversation / collaboration
> en
On 19.10.2018 00:28, Ankur Sinha wrote:
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 23:11:56 +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
https://github.com/sanjayankur31/rpm-specs/blob/libneurosim/libneurosim.spec
However, when I flip that variable to enable py2 builds to 1:
%global with_py2 1
the build fails with this error:
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 23:11:56 +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
>
>
> https://github.com/sanjayankur31/rpm-specs/blob/libneurosim/libneurosim.spec
>
> However, when I flip that variable to enable py2 builds to 1:
>
> > %global with_py2 1
>
> the build fails with this error:
>
> > error: Empty %files
Hello,
I have a spec here where I use a simple conditional to toggle py2
builds---so that I can use the same spec and provide py2 for F < 30
releases.
https://github.com/sanjayankur31/rpm-specs/blob/libneurosim/libneurosim.spec
However, when I flip that variable to enable py2 builds to 1:
> %gl
No missing expected images.
Failed openQA tests: 10/133 (x86_64), 2/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm)
New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20181017.n.0):
ID: 297831 Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_lvmthin@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/297831
Old failures (same test f
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Randy Barlow
wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 13:14 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > Discourse is *definitely* not a smooth, drop-in mailing list
> > replacement
> > like Hyperkitty is.
>
> I'm curious what is insufficient about Hyperkitty that Discourse does
> well
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 10:02 PM Lokesh Mandvekar
wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 06:50:51PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> >
> > I'm confused by this podman build. Especially so with my Packaging
> > Committee hat on.
> >
> > - changelog message says it's version 10.1
> > - %{version} is 0.
On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 13:14 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> Discourse is *definitely* not a smooth, drop-in mailing list
> replacement
> like Hyperkitty is.
I'm curious what is insufficient about Hyperkitty that Discourse does
well at. Wasn't Hyperkitty supposed to give people the forum
experience?
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:40 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On 10/18/18 6:31 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
>
> > Actually, I think that just creating a new discourse instance for
> > discussions keeping the mailing
> > lists around would be a good solution. You wouldn't have to worry about
> > registration
* Gerald B. Cox [18/10/2018 06:31] :
>
> Actually, I think that just creating a new discourse instance for
> discussions keeping the mailing lists around would be a good solution.
The way I read this, it implies we would fragment developement disccusion
in two, the people using mailing lists on on
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 06:50:51PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
>
> I'm confused by this podman build. Especially so with my Packaging
> Committee hat on.
>
> - changelog message says it's version 10.1
> - %{version} is 0.10.1
> - github project has 0.10.1 tag, but its commit hash doesn't match
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:34:45PM -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> You're missing the point of this thread - it's about the capabilities
> of a tool to foster discussion and communication between mulitiple
> people - it's not about cloning email software.
What is "email software", if not a tool to
On 10/18/18 12:46 PM, Vlad Palnik wrote:
Is this a known issue or a new bug, I was unable to find anything on
bugzilla,
the issue appeared after initial install followed by dnf update
Known new bug, it was caused by putting a new version of dnf into F29.
OS: Fedora 29 Beta
Hardware: Dell R72
On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 12:12 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:03 PM Simo Sorce wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 11:51 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:40 AM Simo Sorce wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 11:02 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrot
Is this a known issue or a new bug, I was unable to find anything on
bugzilla,
the issue appeared after initial install followed by dnf update
OS: Fedora 29 Beta
Hardware: Dell R720
[vpuser@localhost ~]$ dnf info tomcat
Last metadata expiration check: 0:43:37 ago on Thu 18 Oct 2018
11:55:48 AM
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 09:24:03PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> Using GMail (both legacy and Inbox) as a representation of email
> workflow and ergonomy is not fair. Gmail as a client is abysmal.
> No threading, no coloring of different level of citation, no integrated
> GPG support, no comforta
On 10/18/18 6:31 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:33 AM Matthew Miller
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 01:39:30PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
>>> I cannot *ever* recommend, in good conscious, moving to Discourse for
>>> Fedora development discussions.
>>>
>>> However, I thi
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:28 PM wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:40 AM Simo Sorce wrote:
>
> > You need to read the entire thread in context, including subsequent
> > responses. I realize that can be difficult on a mailing list, with
> > all the top-posting, conversation snippets, etc.
>
On 10/18/18 9:24 AM, tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote:
Stephen Gallagher said:
>> What happens when the "server" is a (K)VM on a desktop/laptop that
is hibernated? I know what I'd want to happen. > > See the other section
of this thread; The VM hypervisor handles this,
> not the client s
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:24 PM Tomasz Torcz wrote:
>
> > You like gmail […]
>
> Using GMail (both legacy and Inbox) as a representation of email
> workflow and ergonomy is not fair. Gmail as a client is abysmal.
> No threading, no coloring of different level of citation, no integrated
> GPG
Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 12:38 -0400, tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote:
...
>> No, but Android Mail sucks in very many ways. Replying by webmail.
>> Anyone know of a good Android email client?
>
> K9 Mail is the best, paired with OpenKeychain I can even do encrypted
> email usi
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:40 AM Simo Sorce wrote:
> You need to read the entire thread in context, including subsequent
> responses. I realize that can be difficult on a mailing list, with
> all the top-posting, conversation snippets, etc.
We have been doing that. The features touted for Di
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 03:02:52PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 11:51 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:40 AM Simo Sorce wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 11:02 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:55 AM Samuel Sieb wrot
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:03 PM Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 11:51 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:40 AM Simo Sorce wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 11:02 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:55 AM Samuel Sieb
> wrote:
> >
On 10/18/18 6:02 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote:
>
>
> On 10/18/2018 07:58 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:27 PM Dusty Mabe wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> For BZ1206936 [1] we started adding resume= kernel command line by
>>> default [2] in fedora installs. This is causing issues for ostree
On 10/09/2018 04:06 PM, Anderson, Charles R wrote:
> One click is too much for my terminal email client via SSH on my
> phone. My email client already supports filtering into separate
> mailboxes for each list and also supports threads shown in a
> hierarchy. If Fedora lists go away in favor of
On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 11:51 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:40 AM Simo Sorce wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 11:02 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:55 AM Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 10/17/18 8:52 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > > > >
On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 12:38 -0400, tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote:
> > tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote:
> > > Â Stephen Gallagher said:
> > > > Â I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into
> > >
> > > hibernation, though. ...
> > > What happens when the "server" is a (K)VM on
On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 16:21 +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 05:16:19PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> > tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote:
> > > Stephen Gallagher said:
> > > > I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation,
> > > > though. ...
>
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:40 AM Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 11:02 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:55 AM Samuel Sieb wrote:
> >
> > > On 10/17/18 8:52 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > > > Again, I use gmail and things look perfectly fine for me.
> > >
> > > T
On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 11:02 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:55 AM Samuel Sieb wrote:
>
> > On 10/17/18 8:52 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > > Again, I use gmail and things look perfectly fine for me.
> >
> > That's because gmail only shows the HTML part.
> >
>
> Ah... so
On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 13:14 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 05:00:32PM +, Anderson, Charles R wrote:
> > How do I start a thread on Discourse from email? We should start this
> > discussion over there so we can experience it ourselves.
>
> So, yeah, that's a thing: we cu
Release status of Fedora 29 Final is NO-GO.
Due to open blocker bugs, Fedora 29 Final was declared "No-Go". The
Final release will change to the "Target #1" date (October 30)[1].
For more information, please check the minutes[2] from the F29 Final
Go/No-Go meeting.
The next Go/No-Go meeting[3] w
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20181017.n.0
NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20181018.n.0
= SUMMARY =
Added images:0
Dropped images: 0
Added packages: 1
Dropped packages:10
Upgraded packages: 43
Downgraded packages: 0
Size of added packages: 14.53 KiB
Size of dropped packages
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 6:08 PM Fedora Branched Report
wrote:
>
> OLD: Fedora-29-20181016.n.0
> NEW: Fedora-29-20181017.n.0
>
> = SUMMARY =
> Added images:1
> Dropped images: 4
> Added packages: 0
> Dropped packages:0
> Upgraded packages: 3
> Downgraded packages: 0
> tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote:
>> Â Stephen Gallagher said:
>> >Â I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into
>> hibernation, though. ...
>> What happens when the "server" is a (K)VM on a desktop/laptop that is
>> hibernated? I know what I'd want to happen.
>
> When I suspend my
Stephen Gallagher said:
>> What happens when the "server" is a (K)VM on a desktop/laptop that is
>> hibernated? I know what I'd want to happen.
>
> See the other section of this thread; The VM hypervisor handles this,> not
> the client system (by default).I did see it, but I don't understand. I
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:21 PM Rex Dieter wrote:
>
> Steam is currently available from rpmfusion, fwiw/fyi/ymmv :
> https://pkgs.rpmfusion.org/cgit/nonfree/steam.git/
It is, and as usual, thanks to the rpmfusion folks! The reason why I
tried this outside of Fedora first is that steam is part of
On 10/18/2018 11:21 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 05:16:19PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote:
Stephen Gallagher said:
I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation, though.
...
What happens when the "server" is
On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 11:30 AM Ben Cotton wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1 for the Fedora 29
> Final Release Readiness meeting. This meeting will be held on Thursday,
> 2018-10-18 at 19:00 UTC.
>
> We will meet to make sure we are coordinated and ready fo
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 05:16:19PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote:
> > Stephen Gallagher said:
> > > I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation,
> > >though. ...
> > What happens when the "server" is a (K)VM on a desktop/laptop that is
Dridi Boukelmoune wrote:
...
> Even if the above was solved, the way Proton is built is a clear no-no
> for Fedora because of bundling and a messy build system that requires
> an internet access.
>
> Steam second.
Steam is currently available from rpmfusion, fwiw/fyi/ymmv :
https://pkgs.rpmfusio
tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote:
> Stephen Gallagher said:
> > I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation,
> >though. ...
> What happens when the "server" is a (K)VM on a desktop/laptop that is
> hibernated? I know what I'd want to happen.
When I suspend my Fedora
Hello,
Following the discussion on raising the fileno limit to make Steam
Proton [1] work well on Fedora I was wondering if anyone managed to
build it and document it somewhere. I believe someone did it since
they reported completely stable compatibility [2] on Fedora 28 but
couldn't find build in
On 10/17/18 4:27 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 02:54:23PM -0400, John Florian wrote:
With things like reddit or LWN, you get to read it
over and over and over again if you really want to see whats new now.
https://lwn.net/Comments/unread will show you comments posted
aftery
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 9:35 AM tonynel...@georgeanelson.com
wrote:
>
> Stephen Gallagher said:
>
> > I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation,
> > though. ...
>
> What happens when the "server" is a (K)VM on a desktop/laptop that is
> hibernated? I know what I'd want
Bruno said:> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 14:48:52 -0400,
"tonynel...@georgeanelson.com" wrote:
>>> ... For html only messages you would either need to reject them or rewrite
>>> them, both of which have issues.
>>I've used elinks to do that in an email forum I wrote. It worked better than
>>doing
Stephen Gallagher said:
> I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation, though.
>...
What happens when the "server" is a (K)VM on a desktop/laptop that is
hibernated? I know what I'd want to happen.
___Ton
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:33 AM Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 01:39:30PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > I cannot *ever* recommend, in good conscious, moving to Discourse for
> > Fedora development discussions.
> >
> > However, I think it's fantastic for user support, as those are
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 01:41:21PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > There might be some use for it for VMs
> > Doesn't the hypervisor do that itself for VMs?
> You have a choice, but most people do use hypervisor save/restore. It
> is rare to see guest S3/S5 save/restore used in VMs.
Oka
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:51:57AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Do, 18.10.18 11:34, Kamil Paral (kpa...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> > > We merged the PR that bumps RLIMIT_NOFILE to 256K into systemd
> > > upstream yesterday. It should trickle into Fedora and the other
> > > distros as soon as
On 10/18/2018 07:58 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:27 PM Dusty Mabe wrote:
>>
>>
>> For BZ1206936 [1] we started adding resume= kernel command line by
>> default [2] in fedora installs. This is causing issues for ostree
>> based systems, which I haven't fully investiga
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 08:32:56AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 8:29 AM Matthew Miller
> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 07:58:33AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > > I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation,
> > > though. Does thi
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 8:29 AM Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 07:58:33AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation,
> > though. Does this just direct the kernel where that should go if
> > hibernation is requested, o
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 01:39:30PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> I cannot *ever* recommend, in good conscious, moving to Discourse for
> Fedora development discussions.
>
> However, I think it's fantastic for user support, as those are much
> more context free, incidental, and so on. I've wished for
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:29:33AM -0400, Ben Rosser wrote:
> I am not saying switching to Discourse is a *bad* idea. I am saying
> that I, at least, would like to see a more serious proposal than
> simply "just do it because it's better". That might require switching
> one list over and seeing how
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 07:58:33AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> I can't see anyone putting a Server or Atomic Host into hibernation,
> though. Does this just direct the kernel where that should go if
> hibernation is requested, or does it reserve space or something for
> it?
There might be so
Hello,
Would someone like to please swap reviews? I'd like to get
libneurosim[1] reviewed since it's needed for other NeuroFedora
packages. This one is also built with and without MPI support, so the
spec is slightly longer than normal.
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1638968
--
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:53:51PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> These are important times for Fedora and I'm excited for the future!
> I will continue to participate as I can and I'm looking forward to
> seeing the directions we take as a project and as a distribution. It
> has been an honor to b
On 18/10/2018 12:58, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:27 PM Dusty Mabe wrote:
For BZ1206936 [1] we started adding resume= kernel command line by
default [2] in fedora installs. This is causing issues for ostree
based systems, which I haven't fully investigated yet, but figur
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:27 PM Dusty Mabe wrote:
>
>
> For BZ1206936 [1] we started adding resume= kernel command line by
> default [2] in fedora installs. This is causing issues for ostree
> based systems, which I haven't fully investigated yet, but figured
> I would ask the question:
>
> Is re
On Do, 18.10.18 11:34, Kamil Paral (kpa...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > We merged the PR that bumps RLIMIT_NOFILE to 256K into systemd
> > upstream yesterday. It should trickle into Fedora and the other
> > distros as soon as we do the next release.
> >
> > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/10244
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 9:48 AM Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Mi, 17.10.18 20:35, Zebediah Figura (z.figur...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> > I do not, no. That number came up pretty early in testing, and I think we
> > ended up leaving the limit at ~1M while testing other applications. On
> the
> > oth
On Mi, 17.10.18 20:35, Zebediah Figura (z.figur...@gmail.com) wrote:
> I do not, no. That number came up pretty early in testing, and I think we
> ended up leaving the limit at ~1M while testing other applications. On the
> other hand, I know many users in the wild have used ~200k values, and I
>
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