[Bug 1897339] perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker-7.54 is available

2020-11-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1897339

Jitka Plesnikova  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker-7.5
   ||4-1.fc34
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2020-11-13 06:58:25




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[Bug 1897339] perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker-7.54 is available

2020-11-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1897339

Jitka Plesnikova  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
 CC|ppi...@redhat.com   |
   Doc Type|--- |If docs needed, set a value




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Re: protect the builds from deletion

2020-11-12 Thread Dan Čermák
Hi Muneendra,

Muneendra Kumar M via devel  writes:

> Hi All,
> I got the below mail .
> Can anyone help me the steps to be done to protect the builds.

That build is not in any repository and thus koji tries to delete it to
free up some space. You can protect it by submitting it to a repository
(which you probably did with a later build, I often get these messages
too, when koji cleans up old intermediate builds that never made it into
the stable repository).


Cheers,

Dan

>
> Iam not able to find  the same from the below links on how to protect the
> builds.
>
>
> Regards,
> Muneendra.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Koji Build System [mailto:build...@fedoraproject.org]
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:15 AM
> To: muneen...@fedoraproject.org
> Subject: 1 build marked for deletion
>
> The following build(s) are unreferenced and have been marked for deletion.
> They will be held in the trashcan tag for a grace period.
> At the end of that period they will be deleted permanently. This garbage
> collection is a normal part of build system operation.
> Please see the following url for more information:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Koji/GarbageCollection
>
> Build: fctxpd-0.2-1.20200827gitccbaf3a.epel8.playground
> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1602106
>
> If you would like to protect any of these builds from deletion, please
> refer to the document linked above for instructions.
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protect the builds from deletion

2020-11-12 Thread Muneendra Kumar M via devel
Hi All,
I got the below mail .
Can anyone help me the steps to be done to protect the builds.

Iam not able to find  the same from the below links on how to protect the
builds.


Regards,
Muneendra.

-Original Message-
From: Koji Build System [mailto:build...@fedoraproject.org]
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:15 AM
To: muneen...@fedoraproject.org
Subject: 1 build marked for deletion

The following build(s) are unreferenced and have been marked for deletion.
They will be held in the trashcan tag for a grace period.
At the end of that period they will be deleted permanently. This garbage
collection is a normal part of build system operation.
Please see the following url for more information:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Koji/GarbageCollection

Build: fctxpd-0.2-1.20200827gitccbaf3a.epel8.playground
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1602106

If you would like to protect any of these builds from deletion, please
refer to the document linked above for instructions.


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[389-devel] 389 DS nightly 2020-11-13 - 94% PASS

2020-11-12 Thread vashirov
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/389ds/ci/nightly/2020/11/13/report-389-ds-base-2.0.1-20201113git7f241dc.fc32.x86_64.html
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Re: wlroots 0.12 update with soname change

2020-11-12 Thread Aleksei Bavshin

On 11/10/20 9:57 PM, Aleksei Bavshin wrote:

Greetings,

I'm planning to push wlroots 0.12.0 update into rawhide next week.
As usual, the update is ABI breaking and will change soname (6 -> 7). 
This time no source changes required for any of the packages; simple 
rebuild with release bump would be sufficient.


I will send an additional message once I figure out how to set up a 
side-tag and get new wlroots build published into it.


The side-tag is ready. You can build your packages with new wlroots 
using following command:




fedpkg build --target=f34-build-side-33997


Use 'koji wait-repo f34-build-side-33997' to wait for the build repo to 
be updated if you are building multiple dependent packages (which is 
likely relevant only for wayfire).



I'll request the side-tag merge in a week from the initial announcement 
or when all rebuilds are completed.



Affected packages (maintainer aliases in Bcc):
  - cage
  - gamescope
  - phoc
  - sway
  - wayfire

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Aleksei Bavshin




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[Bug 1829995] perl-Test-WWW-Mechanize for EL7

2020-11-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829995
Bug 1829995 depends on bug 1829997, which changed state.

Bug 1829997 Summary: perl-HTML-Lint for EL7
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829997

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA




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[Bug 1829997] perl-HTML-Lint for EL7

2020-11-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829997

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-HTML-Lint-2.32-7.el7.1
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Last Closed||2020-11-13 03:27:52



--- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2020-6bb32711f3 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 7 stable
repository.
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[Bug 1829982] perl-WWW-Mechanize for EL8

2020-11-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829982

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-WWW-Mechanize-1.97-1.e
   ||l8.1
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Last Closed||2020-11-13 03:02:53



--- Comment #9 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2020-2b1e3b5a9f has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 8 stable
repository.
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[Bug 1829977] perl-Test-WWW-Mechanize for EL8

2020-11-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829977
Bug 1829977 depends on bug 1829982, which changed state.

Bug 1829982 Summary: perl-WWW-Mechanize for EL8
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829982

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA




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[Bug 1829980] perl-Pod-Tests for EL8

2020-11-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829980

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Pod-Tests-1.20-6.el8
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Last Closed||2020-11-13 03:02:45



--- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2020-308192519b has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 8 stable
repository.
If problem still persists, please make note of it in this bug report.


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[Bug 1890587] EPEL8 Request: perl-App-Nopaste

2020-11-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1890587
Bug 1890587 depends on bug 1829982, which changed state.

Bug 1829982 Summary: perl-WWW-Mechanize for EL8
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829982

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA




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[Bug 1829981] perl-HTML-Lint for EL8

2020-11-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829981

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-HTML-Lint-2.32-7.el8
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Last Closed||2020-11-13 03:02:50



--- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2020-2fa5d057e8 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 8 stable
repository.
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[Bug 1829979] perl-Carp-Assert for EL8

2020-11-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829979
Bug 1829979 depends on bug 1829980, which changed state.

Bug 1829980 Summary: perl-Pod-Tests for EL8
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829980

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA




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[Bug 1829984] perl-HTTP-Response-Encoding for EL8

2020-11-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829984

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-HTTP-Response-Encoding
   ||-0.06-32.el8
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Last Closed||2020-11-13 03:02:47



--- Comment #7 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2020-afec362d3d has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 8 stable
repository.
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[Bug 1890604] EPEL8 Request: perl-WWW-Pastebin-PastebinCom-Create

2020-11-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1890604
Bug 1890604 depends on bug 1829982, which changed state.

Bug 1829982 Summary: perl-WWW-Mechanize for EL8
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829982

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA




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[Bug 1829977] perl-Test-WWW-Mechanize for EL8

2020-11-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829977
Bug 1829977 depends on bug 1829981, which changed state.

Bug 1829981 Summary: perl-HTML-Lint for EL8
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829981

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA




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[Bug 1829982] perl-WWW-Mechanize for EL8

2020-11-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829982
Bug 1829982 depends on bug 1829984, which changed state.

Bug 1829984 Summary: perl-HTTP-Response-Encoding for EL8
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829984

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA




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Conflicting build-ids in nekovm and haxe

2020-11-12 Thread Andy Li
Hi list,

Re. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1896901

Since haxe-4.1.3-4 and nekovm-2.3.0-4, both nekovm and haxe packages contains 
"/usr/lib/.build-id/b0/aed4ddf2d45372bcc79d5e95d2834f5045c09c".
The nekovm one is a symlink to "/usr/bin/neko". The haxe one to 
"/usr/bin/haxelib".
Both the neko and haxelib binaries are built with libneko, with a nearly 
identical main.c with the only difference of the present of neko bytecode 
embedded as a byte array (neko: the byte array is null; haxelib: the byte array 
is the haxelib neko bytecode).

I'm not sure how to resolve it.
Please advice.

Best regards,
Andy
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Fedora-Rawhide-20201112.n.0 compose check report

2020-11-12 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images:

Xfce raw-xz armhfp

Compose PASSES proposed Rawhide gating check!
All required tests passed

Failed openQA tests: 7/177 (x86_64), 14/115 (aarch64)

New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Rawhide-2020.n.0):

ID: 721492  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso apps_startstop
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721492
ID: 721546  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso support_server@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721546
ID: 721557  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso modularity_tests@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721557
ID: 721569  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso 
install_repository_nfsiso_variation@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721569
ID: 721716  Test: aarch64 universal install_with_swap@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721716

Old failures (same test failed in Fedora-Rawhide-2020.n.0):

ID: 721586  Test: aarch64 Server-raw_xz-raw.xz base_services_start@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721586
ID: 721632  Test: x86_64 universal install_cyrillic_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721632
ID: 721687  Test: aarch64 universal upgrade_2_server_domain_controller@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721687
ID: 721699  Test: aarch64 universal install_cyrillic_language@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721699
ID: 721712  Test: aarch64 universal upgrade_2_realmd_client@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721712
ID: 721736  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_printing
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721736
ID: 721737  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso apps_startstop
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721737
ID: 721739  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_notifications_postinstall
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721739
ID: 721744  Test: x86_64 universal support_server
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721744
ID: 721747  Test: x86_64 universal install_pxeboot@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721747
ID: 721750  Test: aarch64 universal support_server@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721750
ID: 721752  Test: aarch64 universal install_pxeboot@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721752
ID: 721754  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso install_vnc_server@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721754
ID: 721755  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso install_vnc_client@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721755
ID: 721756  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso install_vncconnect_client@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721756
ID: 721757  Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso install_vncconnect_server@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721757

Soft failed openQA tests: 6/177 (x86_64), 1/115 (aarch64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Rawhide-2020.n.0):

ID: 721438  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_vncconnect_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721438
ID: 721470  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_vnc_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721470
ID: 721483  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_printing
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721483
ID: 721484  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_update_graphical
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721484
ID: 721534  Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721534
ID: 721602  Test: aarch64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721602
ID: 721611  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_server_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721611

Passed openQA tests: 164/177 (x86_64), 100/115 (aarch64)

New passes (same test not passed in Fedora-Rawhide-2020.n.0):

ID: 721624  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_kde_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721624
ID: 721751  Test: aarch64 universal install_iscsi@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721751

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Workstation-live-iso 
install_default@uefi: 
1 services(s) added since previous compose: flatpak-system-helper.service
System load changed from 1.08 to 0.50
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/720479#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721480#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Workstation-live-iso 
install_default_upload: 
1 services(s) added since previous compose: fwupd.service
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/720480#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721481#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default@uefi: 
System load changed from 0.88 to 0.74
Previous test data: 

Re: Proposed updates to the FESCo updates policy document

2020-11-12 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> We have been over this. If anyone could untag anything they felt like it
> would make it much more difficult for everyone to integrate their
> changes with the rest of the collection.

That issue is simply not something we have observed at any time back when 
this untagging was still allowed. (And it was even possible as self-service 
without involving rel-eng at all, because the Rawhide tag used to be open 
before gating was introduced.) In the worst case, if some build(s) depends 
on the untagged build(s), the dependent build(s) can simply be untagged as 
well.

It is definitely possible to revert to a consistent state, because one such 
consistent state trivially exists: the one where *all* builds built after 
the untagged build get untagged as well. But the minimal set of builds to 
untag is typically much smaller, if it is even larger than a singleton (a 
set consisting only of the one build you want to untag to begin with). If 
the untagged package is a leaf package, the set is even guaranteed to be a 
singleton (but that is not even a necessary condition, only a sufficient 
condition).

Kevin Kofler
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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

2020-11-12 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Matthew Miller wrote:
> Well, except, it clearly *does* work that way. We have many
> lightly-maintained packages in practice.

Do we really? Which are those packages?

The one that keeps getting brought up is Tomcat, but I can tell you from my 
personal experience that the Fedora Tomcat package has always been working 
just fine (not only as a build dependency, but for its intended use as a web 
application server: I use it to locally test Java web applications).

> I think it's better to label them as such and find positive ways to
> encourage the collaboration I think we all agree is best, rather than the
> current state where we basically just pretend that everything is
> maintained with high attention.

I think that if a maintainer is not able to offer a package the attention 
they think it needs, they should ask for help, not mark the package as 
unsupported or hidden. That is how the collaborative approach is supposed to 
work.

Now, if no help shows up, that can only mean one of two things:
* either the package is actually working so well that no help is really
  needed,
* or nobody actually cares enough about the package to give it more
  attention.
In both cases, the package is working well enough for what is actually 
needed and there is no need to give it any special marking.

But the situation into which we want to get is that the help is not only 
requested by the maintainer, but that comaintainers actually sign up for it. 
But that requires upholding a cooperative environment. Privatizing build 
dependencies by marking them as "lightly maintained" achieves the exact 
opposite.

Kevin Kofler
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Re: Proposed updates to the FESCo updates policy document

2020-11-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 12:23:05AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > The one actual proposed change is to allow releng to untag builds that
> > have already gone out in rawhide composes. This was forbidden by the
> > existing policy.
> 
> Worded like in the above quote: Finally!
> 
> But when I see the actual wording in the proposed changes, I see that we go 
> from an undocumented policy to never untag packages in Rawhide (at least, 
> not documented anywhere in the current Update Policy – I think it was 
> decided in some FESCo meeting and never actually codified in the 
> documentation) to a documented policy to almost never untag packages in 
> Rawhide ("it will normally not be untagged"), only "in exceptional cases", 
> which is very open to interpretation.

Yep. IMHO it should still be a very rare thing. 
Perhaps we should come up with a list of the cases under which it would
happen, but I figured leaving it to releng would be ok. 

> Hence, I disagree with the wording in the new policy and still ask for the 
> "Rawhide must never go backwards in EVR" policy to be completely overturned, 
> not just softened with exceptions. There is simply no rationale for it, with 
> distro-sync being a thing, and considering that updates-testing, which is 
> supposed to be *more* stable than Rawhide, *can* actually go backwards in 
> EVR (and that's a good thing).

We have been over this. If anyone could untag anything they felt like it
would make it much more difficult for everyone to integrate their
changes with the rest of the collection. 

kevin


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Re: Lenovo portals for South America

2020-11-12 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 11:24:47 PM WET Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> This list is public, and archived by all sorts of different websites.
> So too late

Michael, everyone knows that the best way to keep a secret is to hide it in 
plain sight. :-)
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Re: Lenovo portals for South America

2020-11-12 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 05:24:47PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> >Please let me know if you have any problems with these. Interestingly
> >these don't seem to be limited to fedoraproject.org accounts in
> >the same
> >way as the US/Canada site does so *please* don't post these details on
> >public forums as if it gets abused it will get pulled down. (Maybe it
> >checks on checkout?)
> This list is public, and archived by all sorts of different
> websites. So too late

Mark has clarified that he means to please not share it beyond here. It is a
public list, but let's be honest, it's still pretty obscure. :)

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Re: Lenovo portals for South America

2020-11-12 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 3:18 pm, Mark Pearson  
wrote:

Please let me know if you have any problems with these. Interestingly
these don't seem to be limited to fedoraproject.org accounts in the 
same

way as the US/Canada site does so *please* don't post these details on
public forums as if it gets abused it will get pulled down. (Maybe it
checks on checkout?)


This list is public, and archived by all sorts of different websites. 
So too late


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Re: Proposed updates to the FESCo updates policy document

2020-11-12 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> The one actual proposed change is to allow releng to untag builds that
> have already gone out in rawhide composes. This was forbidden by the
> existing policy.

Worded like in the above quote: Finally!

But when I see the actual wording in the proposed changes, I see that we go 
from an undocumented policy to never untag packages in Rawhide (at least, 
not documented anywhere in the current Update Policy – I think it was 
decided in some FESCo meeting and never actually codified in the 
documentation) to a documented policy to almost never untag packages in 
Rawhide ("it will normally not be untagged"), only "in exceptional cases", 
which is very open to interpretation.

Hence, I disagree with the wording in the new policy and still ask for the 
"Rawhide must never go backwards in EVR" policy to be completely overturned, 
not just softened with exceptions. There is simply no rationale for it, with 
distro-sync being a thing, and considering that updates-testing, which is 
supposed to be *more* stable than Rawhide, *can* actually go backwards in 
EVR (and that's a good thing).

Kevin Kofler
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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

2020-11-12 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 12:07:29AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> I still believe that this concept is inherently incompatible with the idea 
> of a cooperative community distribution, and that bringing it up again and 
> again with minimally changed wording is not a constructive thing to do.
> 
> I can see why RHEL has a business case for having such "second-class 
> citizen" packages, but this is not how Fedora works or should work.

Well, except, it clearly *does* work that way. We have many
lightly-maintained packages in practice. I think it's better to label them
as such and find positive ways to encourage the collaboration I think we all
agree is best, rather than the current state where we basically just pretend
that everything is maintained with high attention.


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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

2020-11-12 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
David Cantrell wrote:
> * #2475 proposal: let's develop the idea of a new repo for
> lightly-maintained packages  (dcantrell, 15:16:41)

This suggestion keeps coming up again and again, but the repetition does not 
make it any more practical. A small handful individual maintainers wants to 
use some library/infrastructure package(s) for their package builds, but at 
the same time excuse themselves from actually maintaining those 
library/infrastructure package(s). This may be more convenient to the 
minority that gets to "lightly maintain" those packages, but at the cost of 
offloading technical debt to the entire remainder of the community, both the 
majority of maintainers (who would benefit from having the 
library/infrastructure package(s) fully maintained as a potential build 
and/or runtime dependency of their own package(s)) and the end users (who 
would benefit from having the library/infrastructure package(s) fully 
maintained to build local software, and in some cases, such as Tomcat, also 
to use them directly).

I still believe that this concept is inherently incompatible with the idea 
of a cooperative community distribution, and that bringing it up again and 
again with minimally changed wording is not a constructive thing to do.

I can see why RHEL has a business case for having such "second-class 
citizen" packages, but this is not how Fedora works or should work.

Kevin Kofler
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 34 Rawhide 20201112.n.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

2020-11-12 Thread rawhide
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event
for Fedora 34 Rawhide 20201112.n.0. Please help run some tests for this
nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly
release validation testing, see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan

Notable package version changes:
python-blivet - 20201107.n.1: python-blivet-3.3.1-1.fc34.src, 20201112.n.0: 
python-blivet-3.3.1-2.fc34.src

Test coverage information for the current release can be seen at:
https://www.happyassassin.net/testcase_stats/34

You can see all results, find testing instructions and image download
locations, and enter results on the Summary page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_34_Rawhide_20201112.n.0_Summary

The individual test result pages are:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_34_Rawhide_20201112.n.0_Installation
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_34_Rawhide_20201112.n.0_Base
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_34_Rawhide_20201112.n.0_Server
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_34_Rawhide_20201112.n.0_Cloud
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_34_Rawhide_20201112.n.0_Desktop
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_34_Rawhide_20201112.n.0_Security_Lab

Thank you for testing!
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Re: Proposed updates to the FESCo updates policy document

2020-11-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 05:40:08PM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote:
> Il 12/11/20 09:54, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek ha scritto:
> > On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 06:36:54PM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote:
> >> Il 11/11/20 16:56, Kevin Fenzi ha scritto:
> >>> Greetings.
> >>>
> >>> FESCo is looking to update the updates policy document that is here:
> >>>
> >>> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/
> >>>
> >>> For the most part the updates are not changing any policy, but simply
> >>> removing old/no longer accurate information (taskotron no longer exists,
> >>> bodhi is always enabled, etc) and trying to clarify things.
> >>>
> >>> The one actual proposed change is to allow releng to untag builds that
> >>> have already gone out in rawhide composes. This was forbidden by the
> >>> existing policy.
> >>>
> >>> You can see the PR with the changes:
> >>>
> >>> https://pagure.io/fesco/fesco-docs/pull-request/40
> >>>
> >>> and if you want to view the changed document:
> >>>
> >>> https://pagure.io/fork/kevin/fesco/fesco-docs/raw/updates-update/f/fesco/modules/ROOT/pages/Updates_Policy.adoc
> >>> (you may want to install a adoc viewing extension in your browser to
> >>> view it)
> >>>
> >>> Feedback welcome here or in the PR.
> >>>
> >>> FESCo is likely to look at this next week for approval.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> kevin
> >> Hi kevin,
> >>
> >> I've tried to summarize some of the aspects of the (updated) policy in
> >> an image [1], is that right? I don't fully understand the difference
> >> between the Beta during final freeze and Pre release...
> > I think you are splitting one "phase" into two: "beta" and "pre-release".
> > That should be just one phase called "pre-release". The "final freeze"
> > block is part of that one phase, similarly to how "beta freeze" block
> > is part of "pre-beta".
> >
> > I read the PR again, and it seems to me that the text matches my
> > description above, i.e.  it only has one phase.
> 
> Maybe it's because my limited English comprehension, but that doesn't 
> seem much clear to me.
> 
> In the PR I read:
> "
> 
> Beta to Pre Release
> This is the time between the Beta release and the Final freeze.
> 
> [...]
> 
> Pre release
> This is the time after the Final freeze.
> 
> "
> 
> I have uploaded the .svg to 
> https://mattia.fedorapeople.org/updates_policy.svg feel free to correct it!

Yeah, it's kind of complex there. 

"Pre release" is after 'go' at a 'go/no-go meeting'. At that point
updates _are_ pushed to stable, but they populate the updates repo, they
no longer are part of the base release packages. 

The document doesn't make that part very clear tho... it folds in the
above with the time before go... perhaps it could be clarified. 

I can try...

kevin


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[EPEL-devel] [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : EPEL Steering Committee

2020-11-12 Thread tdawson
Dear all,

You are kindly invited to the meeting:
   EPEL Steering Committee on 2020-11-13 from 21:00:00 to 22:00:00 UTC
   At fedora-meet...@irc.freenode.net

The meeting will be about:
This is the weekly EPEL Steering Committee Meeting.

A general agenda is the following:

#meetingname EPEL
#topic Intros
#topic Old Business
#topic EPEL-6
#topic EPEL-7
#topic EPEL-8
#topic Openfloor
#endmeeting




Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9722/

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Re: [ELN] gcc is going to be updated to gcc11 in the ELN buildroot ahead of Rawhide

2020-11-12 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
Hi, all,

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 2:27 PM Aleksandra Fedorova  wrote:
>
> Hi, all,
>
> this is the informational message, no action required.
>
> Upon agreement between gcc maintainers and ELN SIG we would like to
> switch ELN buildroot to use GCC11 ahead of Fedora Rawhide.
>
> Though ELN is defined as the buildroot where Fedora Rawhide code is
> rebuilt into EL-like environment, in the ELN proposal we also
> mentioned that ELN can be used to test certain buildroot-related
> features on the side so it doesn't block Fedora Rawhide development.
>
> We think that GCC11 is one such feature, where we can benefit from
> testing it first on a small subset of the Fedora content in a separate
> environment.
>
> We would like to invite everyone to join this effort.
>
> The work is currently tracked on Github:
> https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/8
>
> Once GCC11 is merged to the eln tag in koji, one would be able to use
> it via, for example, mock or container environment:
> quay.io/fedoraci/fedora:eln-x86_64
>
> For more info on ELN please refer to ELN Docs (as soon as I update
> them, which hopefully happens later today):
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/eln/
>
> --
> Aleksandra Fedorova
> bookwar at #fedora-devel and #fedora-ci

Small update on the topic:

GCC11 has not landed in the ELN buildroot yet.

After we tried the first mass rebuild of ELN packages in a sidetag,
several issues were found by gcc maintainers. Jeff has more info on
that, but afaiu one issue is related to glib2 and waits for the
upstream fix.

Once the issue is fixed we may try new ELN mass-rebuild in the
sidetag, before doing any real updates in the buildroot itself. Exact
timing is yet to be defined.

We will be running this mass rebuild with the lowest priority, so that
it won't get in the way of regular Fedora builds. (We had a
misconfiguration in the rebuild script, which caused the queue on the
build system before. This issue is now fixed)

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Re: Lenovo portals for South America

2020-11-12 Thread Qiyu Yan
While this mail list is public itself. I hope lenovo will check on checkout or 
they may see abuse someday.
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Re: patch applied without package maintainers' approve

2020-11-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2020-11-12 at 20:47 +0800, Honggang LI wrote:
> > 
> > In terms of "upstream" I'm not sure what you mean there, because
> 
> https://github.com/linux-rdma/rdma-core/blob/master/redhat/rdma-core.spec
> 
> It is the "upstream" spec file.

This kind of "oh, the *real* spec file is in another castle" approach
is just impractical for distributions. It's always a problem, but it's
*especially* a problem if the distribution spec file does not indicate
the existence of the "upstream" spec in any way. As is the case here.
You cannot expect another Fedora packager to look at
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/rdma-core/blob/master/f/rdma-core.spec
and know that there is an "upstream" of that file, because *nothing in
it tells them that there is*.

If you're going to have this kind of "upstream" spec file...well, I
wish you wouldn't. But if you do, *AT MINIMUM*, the "downstream" spec
files need to have a clear explanation that there is an "upstream" spec
file, with a justification as to why, and a link to it. At the very
top. Otherwise there is no chance any other Fedora packager is going to
find it.
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Lenovo portals for South America

2020-11-12 Thread Mark Pearson

Hi Fedora-ites,

I finally made some progress with getting some more portals setup for:

Argentina: www.lenovo.com/ar/linux
Chile: www.lenovo.com/cl/linux
Colombia: www.lenovo.com/co/linux
Mexico: www.lenovo.com/mx/linux
Peru: www.lenovo.com/pe/linux

Password: comunidad-linux

Please let me know if you have any problems with these. Interestingly 
these don't seem to be limited to fedoraproject.org accounts in the same 
way as the US/Canada site does so *please* don't post these details on 
public forums as if it gets abused it will get pulled down. (Maybe it 
checks on checkout?)


As a note - no Linux systems are available yet worldwide - still working 
on that one. I'll update when I get success there - it will happen 
eventually.


I am working on getting more portals setup, I'll update as that goes.

Let me know any questions
Thanks
Mark
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[Bug 1897339] New: perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker-7.54 is available

2020-11-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1897339

Bug ID: 1897339
   Summary: perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker-7.54 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: jples...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: jples...@redhat.com,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org, ppi...@redhat.com
  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Latest upstream release: 7.54
Current version/release in rawhide: 7.52-1.fc34
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/ExtUtils-MakeMaker/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/


More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring


Please keep in mind that with any upstream change, there may also be packaging
changes that need to be made. Specifically, please remember that it is your
responsibility to review the new version to ensure that the licensing is still
correct and that no non-free or legally problematic items have been added
upstream.


Based on the information from anitya:
https://release-monitoring.org/project/2867/


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libcap-ng update coming to rawhide

2020-11-12 Thread Steve Grubb
Hello,

A new version of libcap-ng is going to be released next week. Normally this 
isn't newsworthy, nor is this a soname version bump. But it is important to 
let the broader community know something about it. The behaviour of 
capng_apply is changing slightly.

In the past, capng_apply would silently eat errors when the bounding set 
could not be changed. In order to change the bounding set, you have to have 
CAP_SETPCAP. A developer reported an issue in github where their project 
needed to know that capng_apply was completely successful changing the 
bounding set. Meaning that they need an error returned. I didn't think too 
much of it and made the change.

Then one day I noticed that I could not update a package against Fedora's git 
or push a change. Looking into this, I found gnome-keyring was not working. 
[1]  I dug into the source code and found that it was trying to change the 
bounding set when it had partial capabilities. The fix is to simply verify 
that you have CAP_SETPCAP before attempting this.

I don't know of any other software that is affected. But I wanted to give 
everyone a heads up before I push it out. I always dogfood libraries I work 
on, so maybe this is the only issue.

Eventually libcap-ng needs to get pushed over to F33 because there is a 
problem with ambient capailities that the new release fixes. And speaking of 
ambient capabilities, the new version of libcap-ng contains a new library 
libdrop_ambient.so. You can use it with LD_PRELOAD to force an app to drop 
ambient capabilities leaving the other capabilities intact. All the work is 
done in the constructor, so no function calls are needed.

Best Regards,
-Steve

1 - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888978

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Re: Proposed updates to the FESCo updates policy document

2020-11-12 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 12/11/20 09:54, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek ha scritto:
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 06:36:54PM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote:
>> Il 11/11/20 16:56, Kevin Fenzi ha scritto:
>>> Greetings.
>>>
>>> FESCo is looking to update the updates policy document that is here:
>>>
>>> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/
>>>
>>> For the most part the updates are not changing any policy, but simply
>>> removing old/no longer accurate information (taskotron no longer exists,
>>> bodhi is always enabled, etc) and trying to clarify things.
>>>
>>> The one actual proposed change is to allow releng to untag builds that
>>> have already gone out in rawhide composes. This was forbidden by the
>>> existing policy.
>>>
>>> You can see the PR with the changes:
>>>
>>> https://pagure.io/fesco/fesco-docs/pull-request/40
>>>
>>> and if you want to view the changed document:
>>>
>>> https://pagure.io/fork/kevin/fesco/fesco-docs/raw/updates-update/f/fesco/modules/ROOT/pages/Updates_Policy.adoc
>>> (you may want to install a adoc viewing extension in your browser to
>>> view it)
>>>
>>> Feedback welcome here or in the PR.
>>>
>>> FESCo is likely to look at this next week for approval.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> kevin
>> Hi kevin,
>>
>> I've tried to summarize some of the aspects of the (updated) policy in
>> an image [1], is that right? I don't fully understand the difference
>> between the Beta during final freeze and Pre release...
> I think you are splitting one "phase" into two: "beta" and "pre-release".
> That should be just one phase called "pre-release". The "final freeze"
> block is part of that one phase, similarly to how "beta freeze" block
> is part of "pre-beta".
>
> I read the PR again, and it seems to me that the text matches my
> description above, i.e.  it only has one phase.

Maybe it's because my limited English comprehension, but that doesn't 
seem much clear to me.

In the PR I read:
"

Beta to Pre Release
This is the time between the Beta release and the Final freeze.

[...]

Pre release
This is the time after the Final freeze.

"

I have uploaded the .svg to 
https://mattia.fedorapeople.org/updates_policy.svg feel free to correct it!

Mattia


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Re: orphaning Taskotron-related packages

2020-11-12 Thread Kamil Paral
Note: The email subject should have said "retiring" instead of "orphaning".
There is little reason to orphan them, retiring is the right approach here.
Perhaps except for mongoquery, somebody else could be interested in
maintaining that, so that one should be orphaned instead.
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orphaning Taskotron-related packages

2020-11-12 Thread Kamil Paral
Hello,
our Taskotron-related repositories (with exceptions like resultsdb) have
been marked as EOL and archived more than half a year ago. I believe it's
time to also tidy up our rpm packages in Fedora.

Looking at our group ownership [1] I have identified the following rpms
which could be retired:
* libtaskotron - nothing depends on it
* taskotron-trigger - nothing depends on it
* python-mongoquery - only taskotron-trigger depends on it
* execdb - nothing depends on it

I think we could have a light discussion regarding libtaskotron. The git
repo is marked as EOL and therefore the package should go away. However,
it's easy to flip the git repo back to a live state and it's not that
trivial to bring back an rpm package. So we should at least briefly
consider whether there is anything in that repo that could be useful in
some of our other current efforts. When looking at the code [2], I think
there are a few modules that could be potentially useful elsewhere, like
koji_utils/bodhi_utils/rpm_utils, perhaps a method or two from
os_utils/file_utils, and a perhaps a few directives. The problem is that
the code is not currently designed to work as a standalone library, but as
a runner - it expects a config file present, it expects certain directories
present, etc. The directives are exceptionally horrible if you want to use
them just by importing and not through the runner. It would require a
fairly big rewrite. Also we could drop ca. 70%-80% of the current codebase
(the runner stuff and unuseful modules).

If Tim said he would like to use some of that code in his CI efforts, or
Josef et al. said they would use some of that for oraculum or packager
dashboard etc, we might not retire libtaskotron, but restructure it into
something more useful. I'd be fine helping with that. But, even if we
wanted to do that, I'd honestly consider leaving libtaskotron as it is, and
rather creating a new package instead, something like 'libfedoraqa' or
similar. And only the few useful modules would be transferred there. It
feels to me much cleaner than reusing the libtaskotron name but gutting it
heavily.

What are your thoughts? Do you see any near-term use of some of the
existing code in libtaskotron? Or any other mentioned packages? Or can we
just drop them and bring them back if we ever need them? (If we don't have
an immediate use, there is a high probability we won't ever need them
again).

Thanks,
Kamil

[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/group/qa-tools-sig
[2] https://pagure.io/taskotron/libtaskotron/blob/develop/f/libtaskotron
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Sundials-5.5.0+PETSc-3.14.1 updates on Rawhide

2020-11-12 Thread Antonio T. sagitter

Hi all.

Sundials-5.5.0 will be updated in seven days, at least, creating a side-tag.
Since Sundials and PETSc have package in common (python3-bout++), i will 
update PETSc to the release 3.14.1 with the Sundials side-tag.


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Re: Review request: mingw-zstd, mingw-minizip, mingw-python-psycopg2

2020-11-12 Thread Sandro Mani

On 12.11.20 15:38, Richard Shaw wrote:
Hopefully someone can get to them before me, I'm swamped with $DAYJOB, 
but if not, I'll see if I can find sometime within the next week or so.




Thanks Richard

Perhaps as a small encouragement: they packages are pretty trivial ;)

Sandro
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Re: Review request: mingw-zstd, mingw-minizip, mingw-python-psycopg2

2020-11-12 Thread Richard Shaw
Hopefully someone can get to them before me, I'm swamped with $DAYJOB, but
if not, I'll see if I can find sometime within the next week or so.

Thanks,
Richard
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systemd v247-rc2 (app.slice, oomd, udev rule changes, light deps)

2020-11-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Hi,

we're getting ready to push systemd 247-rc2 to rawhide. This is
currently blocked by selinux (see below), but I wanted to give a heads-up.
There's a number of changes which are interesting for Fedora:

- user units (under user@nnn.service) are segregated into app.slice,
  session.slice, background.slice. By itself this doesn't do much, but
  it'll allow e.g. kernel memory protections to be applied to session.slice,
  ensuring that gnome-shell remains responsive even with high memory
  contention. This change requires further changes from desktop environments
  to put appropriate units in the respective slices, so the changes in systemd
  are just the beginning of the process.

- systemd-oomd and oomctl are available, but should be considered "technical
  preview" (backwards-incompatible changes may still happen). oomd doesn't
  do anything without configuration, so for anyone interested in this, now
  is a good moment to experiment with policy settings and suggest some
  defaults to upstream.

- udev rules might need to be adjusted to handle new "bind" and "unbind"
  events emitted by the kernel. Despite multiple attempts, we couldn't
  find a way to handle this change in udev in a way that would preserve
  compatibility with existing rules. See the NEWS file [1] for details.

- some non-essential libraries are now loaded using dlopen().
  Dependencies in packages have been downgraded from "Requires" to
  "Recommends" (libpwquality, libqrencode, libxkbcommon, libidn2,
  libcryptsetup). This will result in smaller installation footprint,
  but users may need to explicitly install some dependencies. (This
  only matters where install_weak_deps=False, i.e. not on normal user
  installations.)

- nss-resolve now talks to systemd-resolved using a direct varlink
  connection, instead of a dbus connection through the system broker.
  This means that name resolution using resolved is available
  immediately after resolved is up, while previously it required
  dbus-broker.service to up, which happens relatively late.

There's a bunch of other changes too, see NEWS [1].

The new version is not built in rawhide yet because we're waiting for
the selinux policy update [2]. (The biggest problem is selinux policy
blocking the check if selinux is enabled ;)).

Builds are available in side tag f34-build-side-33917 [3].

[1] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/v247-rc2/NEWS
[2] https://github.com/fedora-selinux/selinux-policy/pull/464
[3] https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=55456626

Zbyszek
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[Bug 1895493] perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-X509-1.902 is available

2020-11-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1895493

Xavier Bachelot  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
   Assignee|wjhns...@hardakers.net  |xav...@bachelot.org
   Doc Type|--- |If docs needed, set a value
Last Closed||2020-11-12 14:01:43




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Re: patch applied without package maintainers' approve

2020-11-12 Thread Honggang LI
On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 03:17:47PM +, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > I'm one of package maintainers of rdma-core. There is a patch
> > applied without any maintainers' review/approve. I had sent two emails
> > to patch committer to ask him/her to push the change to upstream.
> > But never get response.
> 
> So someone pinged me on IRC about this, I never saw the emails because
> you replied to the git commit and I auto archive/mute all those emails
> because I get a LOT of them. You never tried other communication
> mechanisms that I'm aware of such are IRC.
> 
> Also note there is no packaging requirements to get approval from
> package maintainers.
> 
> > The patch maybe useful or fix something. But the divergence between
> > upstream and Fedora rawhide is what I don't want to see, because
> > such divergence is source of regression issues.
> 
> The addition of libpcap linking against libibverbs pulled in a whole
> of extra dependencies that aren't used by Workstation/Cloud or
> anything that doesn't have infinband. So this just splits it out to a
> smaller package, for a IB user they will see nothing different.

Split the package make sense. But you create a new sub-package with name
"libibverbs-core". I don't agree with the new name. The original
libibverbs package only includes the VERBs API library.

https://www.openfabrics.org/downloads/libibverbs/

In 2016, user-space drivers/providers, such as libmlx4, had been merged
libibverbs. We may should keep libibverbs only includes the VERBs API
library. And create a new sub-package as "libibverbs-providers".
I will discuss this with upstream.
 
> I don't see how a spec file change is a "regression", there's nothing

RHEL rdma-core builds are based on Fedora builds. Each time, when update
upstream rdma-core for RHEL, I will pull changes from Fedora repo if such
changes should be applied for RHEL too. The divergence between Fedora and
upstream makes my work complicated.

I just checked RHEL-9 nightly build, the libibverbs-core package already
in RHEL-9. I will have to handle this for RHEL-9.

> that will regress here, the rdma-core depends on the package and if
> anyone installs that they also get the new sub package, but if the
> general user doesn't have IB hardware, which is the vast majority of
> users even in the enterprise, they don't have to unnecessarily have
> extra stuff clogging up their system.
> 
> In terms of "upstream" I'm not sure what you mean there, because

https://github.com/linux-rdma/rdma-core/blob/master/redhat/rdma-core.spec

It is the "upstream" spec file.

> upstream of Fedora is generally tar files but do feel free to push the
> change upstream if you prefer that for managing stuff.

I will work with upstream to split the libibverbs package.

> 
> Peter
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Re: Timeshift for Fedora with BTRFS

2020-11-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 3:37 AM Willi Mutschler  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just recently joined the Fedora train and am very excited about it. As I am 
> a developer of timeshift-autosnap and timeshift-autosnap-apt, I wanted to 
> have the same functionality in Fedora 33. The idea is that when one runs a 
> dnf update or upgrade command, timeshift should automatically create a btrfs 
> snapshot. So basyically the same functionality of zsys in Ubuntu with ZFS, 
> but with Timeshift.
> The idea is, whether one likes it or not, Timeshift is quite popular in the 
> Linux user space (and gets mentions on the Linux podcasts all the time). 
> Having it work on Fedora with BTRFS would be quite an asset in my opinion, 
> and make btrfs more user-friendly (as users can see in a GUI that snapshots 
> happen instantenously). Anyways, Is there interest in the Fedora devel 
> community here or is the development actually going another direction?
>
> I am working on a fork of Timeshift (https://github.com/wmutschl/timeshift), 
> where currently I hardcoded the BTRFS subvolume layout of Fedora 33 into 
> Timeshift and it works as it should without renaming the subvolumes to @ and 
> @home (which is also possible).
> Now the next steps (in my opinion or maybe someone has better ideas) would be 
> to:
> 1. Make an interface inside Timeshift to set the names of the BTRFS 
> subvolumes and try to get it merged upstream.
> 2. Adapt timeshift-autosnap (or timeshift-autosnap-apt) for dnf (e.g. create 
> a dnf plugin similar to the snapper plugin) that makes automatic snapshots 
> before any DNF operation.
> 3. Add the autosnap functionality (of pacman, apt, and hopefully dnf) also 
> into Timeshift and get it merged upstream.
>
> Is that a feasible plan? Any feedback is very much appreciated!

This sounds very good! I don't particularly like the Ubuntu subvolume
layout (which is a subset of the openSUSE subvolume layout), so having
Timeshift adapted to support our layout (or even custom layouts in
general) would make this much better. :)

I expect that what you're trying to do should be feasible, especially
since it's been done before with Snapper (which unfortunately lacks a
GUI).



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Fedora-Cloud-31-20201112.0 compose check report

2020-11-12 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Passed openQA tests: 7/7 (x86_64), 7/7 (aarch64)
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Review request: mingw-zstd, mingw-minizip, mingw-python-psycopg2

2020-11-12 Thread Sandro Mani

Hi

I've posted some more review requests for mingw packages:

- mingw-zstd: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1897115
- mingw-minizip: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1897116
- mingw-python-psycopg2: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1896179

I'd need mingw-zstd and mingw-minizip in particular, as mingw-minizip is 
a new dependency for mingw-libspatialite, which i need to update for the 
mingw-proj update I'm working on.


Happy to review in exchange.

Thanks

Sandro
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[Bug 1891083] perl-Net-DNS-1.28 is available

2020-11-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1891083

Jitka Plesnikova  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 CC|caillon+fedoraproject@gmail |jples...@redhat.com
   |.com,   |
   |john.j5l...@gmail.com,  |
   |ka...@ucw.cz,   |
   |rhug...@redhat.com, |
   |rstr...@redhat.com, |
   |sandm...@redhat.com |
   Fixed In Version||perl-Net-DNS-1.28-1.fc34
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
   Assignee|pwout...@redhat.com |jples...@redhat.com
   Doc Type|--- |If docs needed, set a value
Last Closed||2020-11-12 10:43:52




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Re: Lightly-maintained packages (was: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11))

2020-11-12 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Miroslav Suchý [11/11/2020 18:05] :
>
> We already have "lightly-maintained packages" - it is called Copr projects.
> Do we need something in between?

The issue here is discoverabilty. If $PACKAGE is in a separate repository,
be it a 'lightly-maintained' repo or a copr, how do we go about
communicating to users wanting to install it that they need to activate
that repository and that the software they download from it may or may
not work?

Emmanuel
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Fedora-Cloud-32-20201112.0 compose check report

2020-11-12 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Soft failed openQA tests: 1/7 (x86_64), 1/7 (aarch64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-32-2020.0):

ID: 721144  Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721144
ID: 721151  Test: aarch64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/721151

Passed openQA tests: 6/7 (x86_64), 6/7 (aarch64)
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Re: Proposed updates to the FESCo updates policy document

2020-11-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 06:36:54PM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote:
> Il 11/11/20 16:56, Kevin Fenzi ha scritto:
> > Greetings.
> >
> > FESCo is looking to update the updates policy document that is here:
> >
> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/
> >
> > For the most part the updates are not changing any policy, but simply
> > removing old/no longer accurate information (taskotron no longer exists,
> > bodhi is always enabled, etc) and trying to clarify things.
> >
> > The one actual proposed change is to allow releng to untag builds that
> > have already gone out in rawhide composes. This was forbidden by the
> > existing policy.
> >
> > You can see the PR with the changes:
> >
> > https://pagure.io/fesco/fesco-docs/pull-request/40
> >
> > and if you want to view the changed document:
> >
> > https://pagure.io/fork/kevin/fesco/fesco-docs/raw/updates-update/f/fesco/modules/ROOT/pages/Updates_Policy.adoc
> > (you may want to install a adoc viewing extension in your browser to
> > view it)
> >
> > Feedback welcome here or in the PR.
> >
> > FESCo is likely to look at this next week for approval.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > kevin
> 
> Hi kevin,
> 
> I've tried to summarize some of the aspects of the (updated) policy in 
> an image [1], is that right? I don't fully understand the difference 
> between the Beta during final freeze and Pre release...

I think you are splitting one "phase" into two: "beta" and "pre-release".
That should be just one phase called "pre-release". The "final freeze"
block is part of that one phase, similarly to how "beta freeze" block
is part of "pre-beta".

I read the PR again, and it seems to me that the text matches my
description above, i.e.  it only has one phase.

> As a side note, it would be nice to have a link in 
> docs.fedoraproject.org main page to the fesco section, I currently can't 
> found and didn't know he existence of it before you posted the link ;-)
+1

> [1] https://pasteboard.co/JzTXVfv.png

That picture is great. It would be nice include it in the docs,
except that we'd need the "source" version (svg?).

Zbyszek
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Timeshift for Fedora with BTRFS

2020-11-12 Thread Willi Mutschler
Hi,

I just recently joined the Fedora train and am very excited about it. As I am a 
developer of timeshift-autosnap and timeshift-autosnap-apt, I wanted to have 
the same functionality in Fedora 33. The idea is that when one runs a dnf 
update or upgrade command, timeshift should automatically create a btrfs 
snapshot. So basyically the same functionality of zsys in Ubuntu with ZFS, but 
with Timeshift.
The idea is, whether one likes it or not, Timeshift is quite popular in the 
Linux user space (and gets mentions on the Linux podcasts all the time). Having 
it work on Fedora with BTRFS would be quite an asset in my opinion, and make 
btrfs more user-friendly (as users can see in a GUI that snapshots happen 
instantenously). Anyways, Is there interest in the Fedora devel community here 
or is the development actually going another direction?

I am working on a fork of Timeshift (https://github.com/wmutschl/timeshift), 
where currently I hardcoded the BTRFS subvolume layout of Fedora 33 into 
Timeshift and it works as it should without renaming the subvolumes to @ and 
@home (which is also possible). 
Now the next steps (in my opinion or maybe someone has better ideas) would be 
to:
1. Make an interface inside Timeshift to set the names of the BTRFS subvolumes 
and try to get it merged upstream.
2. Adapt timeshift-autosnap (or timeshift-autosnap-apt) for dnf (e.g. create a 
dnf plugin similar to the snapper plugin) that makes automatic snapshots before 
any DNF operation.
3. Add the autosnap functionality (of pacman, apt, and hopefully dnf) also into 
Timeshift and get it merged upstream.

Is that a feasible plan? Any feedback is very much appreciated!
Cheers,
Willi
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