Re: java-17-openjdk mass-rebuild for f36 in copr I

2021-11-30 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 11/30/21 01:53, Jiri Vanek wrote: On 11/29/21 15:01, Mat Booth wrote: On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 13:16, Jiri Vanek wrote: I would kindly ask you to search yourself in this list: https://github.com/judovana/FedoraSystemJdkBump/blob/main/scritps/fillCopr/exemplarResults/maintainers.jbump T

Re: F36 Change: Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI. (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-30 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 10:08:19AM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Tue, Nov 30 2021 at 10:57:37 AM -0500, Colin Walters > wrote: > > https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/commit/eb74f2ea3e9b453902315539e4f327481162c4f8 > > Should we be using this on other Fedora variants too...? At

Re: F36 Change: Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI. (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 22:39 +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 16:03 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11:13:19AM +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > I don't use sudo , and I'm against the use of sudo  , Fedora > > > tradition > > > do things as root . > > > > I

Re: Question for election candidates: do you support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on a proprietary software git forge?

2021-11-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Dec 1 2021 at 12:27:35 AM +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: How do people using this setup prevent people from submitting PR and issues to the Github mirror where they cannot be applied/fixed? For GNOME we just set up a bot that autocloses every PR. ___

Re: Question for election candidates: do you support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on a proprietary software git forge?

2021-11-30 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 12:27:35AM +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Michel Alexandre Salim [30/11/2021 15:22] : > > > > At the risk of straying off-topic, an approach I really like (which is > > in the spirit of Git being distributed) is to use an open source forge > > primarily, with GitHub only

Re: Question for election candidates: do you support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on a proprietary software git forge?

2021-11-30 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Michel Alexandre Salim [30/11/2021 15:22] : > > At the risk of straying off-topic, an approach I really like (which is > in the spirit of Git being distributed) is to use an open source forge > primarily, with GitHub only as backup. How do people using this setup prevent people from submitting P

Re: Question for election candidates: do you support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on a proprietary software git forge?

2021-11-30 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 03:58:09PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > Whenever this topic has come up, I've see lots of this, except people don't > say the first part out loud: "Of course _I_ use GitHub for most of my stuff, > because of all of the advantages — but Fedora, Fedora should never." We > ca

Re: F36 Change: Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI. (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-30 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 16:03 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11:13:19AM +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > I don't use sudo , and I'm against the use of sudo  , Fedora > > tradition > > do things as root . > > I hope we don't! Doing things with least required privilege is an > im

Re: Trying to take an orphaned package

2021-11-30 Thread Otto Urpelainen
Blaise Pabon kirjoitti 29.11.2021 klo 18.38: Hi Otto On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 7:17 AM Otto Urpelainen wrote: The first link is about other docs than the Package Maintainer Docs, with some critical comments from you about the use of Antora in docs.fp.o. The latter two are about Pagure. So if

Re: Onboarding package

2021-11-30 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 2:41 PM Otto Urpelainen wrote: > > Have you considered submitting a link to this to the Koji docs? A while > ago, I tried to set up a dev Koji environment just by following the > docs. Having a pointer to this would have been very useful. No, but that's a good idea! __

Re: F36 Change: Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI. (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11:13:19AM +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > I don't use sudo , and I'm against the use of sudo , Fedora tradition > do things as root . I hope we don't! Doing things with least required privilege is an important security principle, one which was actually pioneered here with th

Re: Onboarding package

2021-11-30 Thread Otto Urpelainen
Ken Dreyer kirjoitti 30.11.2021 klo 20.56: On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 2:33 PM Dan Čermák wrote: Maybe we can make a VM image (for KVM/qemu + VirtualBox) with a small set of Fedora infra, including Koji+Bodhi. How about a vagrant box or a docker-compose file :) However, I'm a little worried that

Re: Release 13.0.1-rc1 has been tagged

2021-11-30 Thread Tom Stellard
On 11/30/21 10:30, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:07:52PM -0800, Tom Stellard wrote: Hi, I've tagged 13.0.1-rc1. Testers can begin testing and uploading binaries. There is still time to submit fixes for the final 13.0.1. I'll give more details about timelines and how to do thi

Re: Onboarding package

2021-11-30 Thread Ahmed Almeleh
Could be useful for me to do too, I'm new to infra as an apprentice. On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 at 18:57, Ken Dreyer wrote: > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 2:33 PM Dan Čermák > wrote: > > > Maybe we can make a VM image (for KVM/qemu + VirtualBox) with a small > > > set of Fedora infra, including Koji+Bodhi.

Re: Onboarding package

2021-11-30 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 2:33 PM Dan Čermák wrote: > > Maybe we can make a VM image (for KVM/qemu + VirtualBox) with a small > > set of Fedora infra, including Koji+Bodhi. > > How about a vagrant box or a docker-compose file :) > > However, I'm a little worried that this might be too fat or not too

Re: Release 13.0.1-rc1 has been tagged

2021-11-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:07:52PM -0800, Tom Stellard wrote: > Hi, > > I've tagged 13.0.1-rc1. Testers can begin testing and uploading binaries. > > There is still time to submit fixes for the final 13.0.1. I'll give more > details about timelines and how to do this once the bugzilla migration

Re: F35 release retrospective

2021-11-30 Thread Ben Cotton
This is your reminder that the F35 release retrospective is open through 4 December. On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 3:56 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Now that we've released F35, I'd like to share the first semi-annual > release retrospective survey: > https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/23

Re: F36 Change: Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI. (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-30 Thread stan via devel
On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 12:49:24 +0100 Vít Ondruch wrote: > I think it would be more constructive if you enumerated pros/cons of > sudo to support your argument then the tradition. Not the original poster, but I find that I like the separation of roles into two. When I do things as root, I mentall

Re: F36 Change: Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI. (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Nov 30 2021 at 10:57:37 AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/commit/eb74f2ea3e9b453902315539e4f327481162c4f8 Should we be using this on other Fedora variants too...? At least for Workstation, where root is always locked? _

Re: Question for election candidates: do you support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on a proprietary software git forge?

2021-11-30 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > Also bear in mind you can't actually forbid source git repositories > on any platforms. > > Some maintainers already use source git repositories, they just don't > happen to be blessed by the Fedora project. If what Fedora offers > is kneecapped, the maintainers can ign

Re: F36 Change: Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI. (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021, at 9:49 AM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Ben Cotton said: >> Further, this change of defaults complements the default for root >> account. The redesign of root setup screen in Fedora 35 makes it clear >> that root should be left locked. > > So, not directly relate

Re: Question for election candidates: do you support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on a proprietary software git forge?

2021-11-30 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > It is more than just sysadmin time involved though. One of the most > compelling parts of GitLab is its CI framework and the free runners it > provides projects. Any kind of CI support should be considered nice-to-have and not a required feature of a git forge. You can

Re: Question for election candidates: do you support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on a proprietary software git forge?

2021-11-30 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > The second issue has been the general rule that Fedora systems run by > infrastructure use Fedora Linux or RHEL. Packaging up all the ruby > gems and various services needed is a large task and usually falls on > someone like Neal Gompa to try a stab at it. Even if it

Re: Question for election candidates: do you support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on a proprietary software git forge?

2021-11-30 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Matthew Miller wrote: > Nope! The Packit Service bot works just like a human packager and syncs > back changes other packagers have made. I do not see how that can work for things like conditionally-applied patches. Unless you just drop them into src-git as patches, which entirely defeats the po

Re: Question for election candidates: do you support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on a proprietary software git forge?

2021-11-30 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Michael Catanzaro wrote: > Hi, I have a question for the FESCo and Council candidates: do you > support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on > gitlab.com, which a proprietary software git forge? IMHO (as a non-candidate), it is sad that this question has to be asked at all: Fedora

Re: Question for election candidates: do you support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on a proprietary software git forge?

2021-11-30 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 04:22:42PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Mon, Nov 29 2021 at 04:42:18 PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: Nope! The Packit Service bot works just like a human packager and syncs back changes other packagers have made. Well that would be what I was missing. I guess th

Re: Question for election candidates: do you support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on a proprietary software git forge?

2021-11-30 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 03:25:29PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Mon, Nov 29 2021 at 03:15:24 PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: source-git is intended to be distributed and close to upstreams. Interesting. Why? What you and David are both saying seems so weird to me, I suddenly wonder if

Re: F36 Change: Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI. (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-30 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Ben Cotton said: > Further, this change of defaults complements the default for root > account. The redesign of root setup screen in Fedora 35 makes it clear > that root should be left locked. So, not directly related to the proposal, but jumping in here because it goes with the

Re: Question for election candidates: do you support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on a proprietary software git forge?

2021-11-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 12:06:13PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > Hi, I have a question for the FESCo and Council candidates: do you support > allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on gitlab.com, which a > proprietary software git forge? > > Fedora Council has already effectively st

Re: Fedora 35 Cloud image && virt-sysprep

2021-11-30 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
This seems like it was fairly comprehensively answered already: RHEL 8 doesn't support btrfs. However about XFS, we are in fact going to backport the two missing features (bigtime and inobtcnt) to RHEL 8. The bugs are unfortunately private but for reference they are: https://bugzilla.redhat.com

Re: Fedora 33 End Of Life

2021-11-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 11. 21 9:54, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 30. 11. 21 v 2:00 Maxwell G via devel napsal(a): On Monday, November 29, 2021 5:12:22 PM CST Neal Gompa wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:52 PM Justin Forbes wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Mohan Boddu wrote: Hello all, Fedora 33 will go en

Fedora-Rawhide-20211130.n.0 compose check report

2021-11-30 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Compose PASSES proposed Rawhide gating check! All required tests passed Failed openQA tests: 3/208 (x86_64), 5/142 (aarch64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20211129.n.0): ID: 1074237 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 base_update_cli@uefi U

Re: F36 Change: Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI. (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-30 Thread Vít Ondruch
I think it would be more constructive if you enumerated pros/cons of sudo to support your argument then the tradition. Vít Dne 30. 11. 21 v 12:13 Sérgio Basto napsal(a): I don't use sudo , and I'm against the use of sudo , Fedora tradition do things as root . On Mon, 2021-11-29 at 14:33 -

Re: F36 Change: Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI. (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-30 Thread Sérgio Basto
I don't use sudo , and I'm against the use of sudo , Fedora tradition do things as root . On Mon, 2021-11-29 at 14:33 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Users_are_admins_by_default_in_Anaconda > > = Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI = > >

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20211130.n.0 changes

2021-11-30 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20211129.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20211130.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 4 Dropped packages:8 Upgraded packages: 90 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 22.15 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: F36 Change: Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI. (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-30 Thread Vladimir Slavik
Hi Brandon, this applies to all variants that display the user screen. Looking at the profiles we have, that means Server, KDE, Kinoite, IoT. Where this does *not* apply is Workstation and Silverblue. I believe the anaconda repository has all the relevant profiles, so hopefully that list is comple

[Test-Announce] Fedora 36 Rawhide 20211130.n.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

2021-11-30 Thread rawhide
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora 36 Rawhide 20211130.n.0. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly release validation testing, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: java-17-openjdk mass-rebuild for f36 in copr I

2021-11-30 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 2:17 PM Jiri Vanek wrote: > I would kindly ask you to search yourself in this list: > https://github.com/judovana/FedoraSystemJdkBump/blob/main/scritps/fillCopr/exemplarResults/maintainers.jbump > If you are here, please check status of your package in > https://github.co

Fedora-Cloud-34-20211130.0 compose check report

2021-11-30 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-34-20211129.0): ID: 1074104 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

Re: Fedora 33 End Of Life

2021-11-30 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 8:55 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 30. 11. 21 v 2:00 Maxwell G via devel napsal(a): > > On Monday, November 29, 2021 5:12:22 PM CST Neal Gompa wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:52 PM Justin Forbes wrote: > >>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Mohan Boddu wrote: > >>>

Re: Question for election candidates: do you support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on a proprietary software git forge?

2021-11-30 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 03:25:29PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29 2021 at 03:15:24 PM -0500, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > source-git is intended to be > > distributed and close to upstreams. > > Interesting. Why? What you and David are both saying seems so weird to me, I > sudden

Re: How I test RPM Conditionals ? in shell command line

2021-11-30 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 11/29/21 15:48, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 29/11/2021 14:22, Jun Aruga wrote: You can use `%bcond_with foo` (foo is not set as "false") or `%bcond_without foo` (foo is set as "true") syntax. %bcond_with{,out} has very ugly reverse syntax. I recently got rid of them in all my packag

Re: Question for election candidates: do you support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on a proprietary software git forge?

2021-11-30 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 03:15:24PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 12:06:13PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > Hi, I have a question for the FESCo and Council candidates: do you > > support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on > > gitlab.com, which a propri

Re: sysusers scriptlets: what to do if upstream includes the config files?

2021-11-30 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 11/27/21 16:10, Neal Gompa wrote: On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 9:02 AM Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: Adam Williamson writes: [...] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/UsersAndGroups/#_dynamic_allocation say: "Create a .sysusers file with the user definition and add where us

Re: Fedora 33 End Of Life

2021-11-30 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 30. 11. 21 v 2:00 Maxwell G via devel napsal(a): On Monday, November 29, 2021 5:12:22 PM CST Neal Gompa wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:52 PM Justin Forbes wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Mohan Boddu wrote: Hello all, Fedora 33 will go end of life for updates and support on 30t

Re: java-17-openjdk mass-rebuild for f36 in copr I

2021-11-30 Thread Jiri Vanek
On 11/29/21 15:01, Mat Booth wrote: On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 13:16, Jiri Vanek wrote: I would kindly ask you to search yourself in this list: https://github.com/judovana/FedoraSystemJdkBump/blob/main/scritps/fillCopr/exemplarResults/maintainers.jbump This list contains dead/retired packages.

Re: java-17-openjdk mass-rebuild for f36 in copr I

2021-11-30 Thread Jiri Vanek
awesome ty! On 11/30/21 04:50, Jerry James wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:16 AM Jiri Vanek wrote: Thank you very much for your help, there are 107 failures, and 270 java packagers, but only 2 active members of java sig. Without your help, the JDK bump will be very hard. All of the packa

Fedora-Cloud-35-20211130.0 compose check report

2021-11-30 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-35-20211129.0): ID: 1074088 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op