Re: Help needed triaging build failures without distutils

2022-10-19 Thread Elliott Sales de Andrade
On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 5:28 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Hey Pythonistas. > > The Python standard library distutils module will be removed from Python 3.12+ > > https://peps.python.org/pep-0632/ > > As preparatory work, we build all python packages in a Copr repository with > Python 3.11 sans

[EPEL-devel] What to do about an incompatible update I approved

2022-10-19 Thread Dave Dykstra via epel-devel
Hello all, It is been pointed out to me that I pushed out an update of a package to EPEL that did not follow the incompatible upgrades policy: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/epel/epel-policy-incompatible-upgrades/ That's because I wasn't aware of the policy until it was pointed out to me

Re: Replacing GNOME Disks with Blivet GUI in comps' admin-tools?

2022-10-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2022-10-19 at 14:29 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 9:37 AM Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > > On Sun, Oct 09, 2022 at 05:17:29AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > > IMHO, we need a proper solution for the general comps issue rather than > > > that > > >

Re: c99-port branches in dist-git

2022-10-19 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 19. 10. 22 17:24, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 01:49:33PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:31 AM Florian Weimer wrote: I'm going to push a branch to dist-git for very few packages (so far gcc and redhat-rpm-config) which will be used

Re: Replacing GNOME Disks with Blivet GUI in comps' admin-tools?

2022-10-19 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 9:37 AM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 09, 2022 at 05:17:29AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > IMHO, we need a proper solution for the general comps issue rather than that > > half-baked compromise that does not really improve the situation. KDE Plasma > > I

Re: Review requests: mingw-python-pip, mingw-python-wheel, mingw-pyproject-rpm-macros

2022-10-19 Thread Sandro Mani
Hi Based on the discussion in #2134021 (mingw-pyproject-rpm-macros review), I've abbandoned the pyproject approach and instead switched to python-build + python-installer. For this, I'd need the following new packages reviewed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2136235 -

Reminder: F37 Final G/No-Go meeting Thursday

2022-10-19 Thread Ben Cotton
The Fedora Linux 37 Final Go/No-Go[1] meeting is scheduled for Thursday 20 October at 1700 UTC in #fedora-meeting. At this time, we will determine the status of the F37 Final for the 25 October target date #1[2]. For more information about the Go/No-Go meeting, see the wiki[3]. Currently, we have

[Test-Announce] Reminder: F37 Final G/No-Go meeting Thursday

2022-10-19 Thread Ben Cotton
The Fedora Linux 37 Final Go/No-Go[1] meeting is scheduled for Thursday 20 October at 1700 UTC in #fedora-meeting. At this time, we will determine the status of the F37 Final for the 25 October target date #1[2]. For more information about the Go/No-Go meeting, see the wiki[3]. Currently, we have

[Bug 2136209] Please branch and build perl-JSON-XS for epel 9

2022-10-19 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2136209 Paul Howarth changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |NOTABUG Doc Type|---

Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Sandro
On 19-10-2022 14:51, Stephen Smoogen wrote: On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 at 05:09, Sandro wrote: On 19-10-2022 10:31, Neal Gompa wrote: On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 4:01 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel We don't have a "main mirror" for that to work. dl.fedoraproject.org would be what this would aim at

Re: Server critical path definition proposal

2022-10-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2022-10-19 at 07:13 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > Hello Adam, > > Adam Williamson [2022-10-18 10:37 -0700]: > > that would define a critical path for Server. That would mean updates > > containing any of those packages or their dependencies would be > > 'critical path' updates, meaning they

Re: c99-port branches in dist-git

2022-10-19 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 01:49:33PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:31 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > I'm going to push a branch to dist-git for very few packages (so far gcc > > and redhat-rpm-config) which will be used by COPR builds to port Fedora > > to C99 and

[Bug 2136209] New: Please branch and build perl-JSON-XS for epel 9

2022-10-19 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2136209 Bug ID: 2136209 Summary: Please branch and build perl-JSON-XS for epel 9 Product: Fedora EPEL Version: epel9 Status: NEW Component: perl-JSON-XS Assignee:

Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 1:47 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 19/10/2022 14:14, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > IOW, the impact of AES on server peformance will vary depending > > on CPU models, NIC models / network switches and whether other > > workloads are competing for CPU time.

Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 9:33 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 4:01 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > wrote: > > > > On 19/10/2022 09:48, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > Sure but as mentioned it's public data, and the modification, and I > > > covered that in my reply, would be picked up

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20221019.n.0 changes

2022-10-19 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20221016.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20221019.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 12 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 177 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 31.15 MiB Size of dropped packages:0

Fedora 37 compose report: 20221019.n.0 changes

2022-10-19 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-37-20221018.n.0 NEW: Fedora-37-20221019.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:3 Dropped images: 1 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 0 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:0 B Size of upgraded

Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 at 05:09, Sandro wrote: > On 19-10-2022 10:31, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 4:01 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > > > We don't have a "main mirror" for that to work. > > dl.fedoraproject.org would be what this would aim at but we would probably have to change

Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Vitaly Zaitsev said: > On 19/10/2022 09:33, Peter Robinson wrote: > >Why are they insecure? This is public open data, not banking data, > >where the data being downloaded is verifiable by the rpm signatures > >and signing keys. > > ISPs or anyone on the the same network can

Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 19/10/2022 14:14, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: IOW, the impact of AES on server peformance will vary depending on CPU models, NIC models / network switches and whether other workloads are competing for CPU time. Admins need to decide what tradeoffs are important to them. In future, modern web

Re: F38 proposal: Modernize Live Media (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Oct 18, 2022, at 4:35 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ModernizeLiveMedia Just for reference, today Fedora CoreOS uses a different implementation of this:

Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 01:56:47PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 19/10/2022 10:31, Neal Gompa wrote: > > HTTPS does not help with that. It's just a transport protocol. > > It will. All requests will be encrypted. ISP will only see server's > IP-address and its hostname (only if SNI

Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 19/10/2022 10:31, Neal Gompa wrote: HTTPS does not help with that. It's just a transport protocol. It will. All requests will be encrypted. ISP will only see server's IP-address and its hostname (only if SNI is enabled). Not in any meaningful way, and in most cases HTTPS makes mirrors

Re: c99-port branches in dist-git

2022-10-19 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:31 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > I'm going to push a branch to dist-git for very few packages (so far gcc > and redhat-rpm-config) which will be used by COPR builds to port Fedora > to C99 and later language standards. So you only plan to trigger COPR builds from these

Re: Running Zuul CI on the packages belonging to @python-packagers-sig

2022-10-19 Thread Karolina Surma
On 10/19/22 04:33, Maxwell G wrote: > Hi Karolina, > > Thank you for working on this! I have also found Zuul useful, but I > don't always remember to enable it for my packages. I have two > suggestions 1) It looks like some other lines were rearranged as part > of this change. Would it be

Re: musings on rust packaging [was Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)]

2022-10-19 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:25 AM Matthew Miller wrote: > > I _very much_ appreciate all the work you and the other Rust SIG folks > (Igor and Zbyszek in particular but I'm sure others as well!) have put into > packaging rust apps and crates and all of the systems around that. I'll respond

Re: F38 proposal: Modernize Live Media (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Frank R Dana Jr.
> With > {{package|livesys-scripts}}, those scripts have been simplified and > turned into systemd services that activate only in live environments. Just to confirm, will live-media-only these systemd services all be contained within a package (either livesys-scripts, or some other RPM), and

Re: F38 proposal: Modernize Live Media (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Michael J Gruber
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 10:43 PM Ben Cotton > > Neal, Matt, what is the rationale for enabling persistence for the default > boot option? I have mixed opinions about this. One of the benefits of a > Live image, as we use it today, is that it's always the same/fresh. If I > use it and then

[Bug 2127708] perl-Inline-Python-0.57 is available

2022-10-19 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2127708 --- Comment #9 from Fedora Update System --- FEDORA-2022-c2e0731168 has been pushed to the Fedora 35 testing repository. Soon you'll be able to install the update with the following command: `sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing

[Bug 2127708] perl-Inline-Python-0.57 is available

2022-10-19 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2127708 --- Comment #8 from Fedora Update System --- FEDORA-2022-de087ddbf2 has been pushed to the Fedora 36 testing repository. Soon you'll be able to install the update with the following command: `sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing

Re: F38 proposal: Modernize Live Media (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 09:22:23AM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > I don't think that persistence by default is a good idea, because > modern USB-flash drives are very unreliable and don't have a > wear-cell balancer, so it will wear out very quickly for some > frequently modified files.

[EPEL-devel] EPEL7 repo error for distribution-gpg-keys?

2022-10-19 Thread Nick Howitt via epel-devel
On a server I don't use very often, I am trying to update mock-core-configs with yum and I am seeing: Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package mock-core-configs.noarch 0:36.9-1.el7 will be updated ---> Package mock-core-configs.noarch 0:36.13-1.el7 will be an update

[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 7 updates-testing report

2022-10-19 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 7 Security updates need testing: Age URL 3 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2022-473e5052db ckeditor-4.20.0-1.el7 3 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2022-576e858e93 php-Smarty-3.1.47-1.el7 3

c99-port branches in dist-git

2022-10-19 Thread Florian Weimer
I'm going to push a branch to dist-git for very few packages (so far gcc and redhat-rpm-config) which will be used by COPR builds to port Fedora to C99 and later language standards. GCC 14 is expected to reject certain constructs that were removed from C in C99: * implicit function

[Bug 2127708] perl-Inline-Python-0.57 is available

2022-10-19 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2127708 --- Comment #7 from Fedora Update System --- FEDORA-EPEL-2022-b76026f9a4 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 8 testing repository. You can provide feedback for this update here:

Amazon mirrors [was Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)]

2022-10-19 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 10:50:19AM +0200, Sandro wrote: > >We don't have a "main mirror" for that to work. > > So, this has been looked into already? It definitely sounds like it > could help in sparsely served parts of the world at a reasonable > cost. Yes. I think this is basically just a

musings on rust packaging [was Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)]

2022-10-19 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 03:46:49PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > The dependency on LLVM is not even the worst issue in my eyes. LLVM is also > > used by other core projects, e.g., mesa, these days. > > > > The worst issue I see with Rust is the way libraries are "packaged", which > > just

[Bug 2135882] perl-Feed-Find-0.13 is available

2022-10-19 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2135882 Jitka Plesnikova changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version||perl-Feed-Find-0.13-1.fc38

Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Sandro
On 19-10-2022 10:31, Neal Gompa wrote: On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 4:01 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 19/10/2022 09:48, Peter Robinson wrote: Sure but as mentioned it's public data, and the modification, and I covered that in my reply, would be picked up by the other mechanisms. They

Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 4:01 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 19/10/2022 09:48, Peter Robinson wrote: > > Sure but as mentioned it's public data, and the modification, and I > > covered that in my reply, would be picked up by the other mechanisms. > > They can collect a lot of sensitive

[Bug 2127708] perl-Inline-Python-0.57 is available

2022-10-19 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2127708 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA --- Comment #6 from

[Bug 2132841] perl-HTTP-Message-6.42 is available

2022-10-19 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2132841 --- Comment #7 from Michal Josef Spacek --- In 6.42 was fixed issue in https://github.com/libwww-perl/HTTP-Message/issues/187) Prepared fix with dependencies: https://github.com/libwww-perl/HTTP-Message/pull/188 -- You are receiving this

Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 19/10/2022 09:48, Peter Robinson wrote: Sure but as mentioned it's public data, and the modification, and I covered that in my reply, would be picked up by the other mechanisms. They can collect a lot of sensitive information: your IP, Fedora version, packages version, etc. This can help

Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 8:40 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 19/10/2022 09:33, Peter Robinson wrote: > > Why are they insecure? This is public open data, not banking data, > > where the data being downloaded is verifiable by the rpm signatures > > and signing keys. > > ISPs or anyone on

Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 19/10/2022 09:33, Peter Robinson wrote: Why are they insecure? This is public open data, not banking data, where the data being downloaded is verifiable by the rpm signatures and signing keys. ISPs or anyone on the the same network can view, intercept or even modify HTTP/rsync traffic.

Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 8:17 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 13/10/2022 15:46, Neal Gompa wrote: > > Also, a ton of Fedora mirrors still don't use HTTPS for various reasons. > > I think such insecure mirrors should be removed from metalink. Why are they insecure? This is public open

Re: F38 proposal: Modernize Live Media (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 18/10/2022 22:35, Ben Cotton wrote: There should be new options for resetting the persistent overlay and booting with no persistence. The default options should boot with persistence and setup of persistence should work. I don't think that persistence by default is a good idea, because

Re: F38 proposal: Modernize Live Media (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 2:57 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 10:43 PM Ben Cotton wrote: >> >> There should be new options for resetting the persistent overlay and >> booting with no persistence. The default options should boot with >> persistence and setup of persistence should

[Bug 2135882] perl-Feed-Find-0.13 is available

2022-10-19 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2135882 Jitka Plesnikova changed: What|Removed |Added CC|jples...@redhat.com,|

Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 13/10/2022 15:46, Neal Gompa wrote: Also, a ton of Fedora mirrors still don't use HTTPS for various reasons. I think such insecure mirrors should be removed from metalink. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___ devel mailing

http[s] mirrors [was Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)]

2022-10-19 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 03:57:41PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Also, a ton of Fedora mirrors still don't use HTTPS for various reasons. > I would say that those mirrors ought to be kicked out of the mirror list > immediately. There are also a lot of rsync mirrors. I don't think any

Re: F38 proposal: Modernize Live Media (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-19 Thread Kamil Paral
On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 10:43 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > There should be new options for resetting the persistent overlay and > booting with no persistence. The default options should boot with > persistence and setup of persistence should work. > Neal, Matt, what is the rationale for enabling

[Bug 2133215] perl-Finance-Quote-1.53 is available

2022-10-19 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2133215 --- Comment #15 from Fedora Update System --- FEDORA-2022-1e8ddf3408 has been pushed to the Fedora 36 stable repository. If problem still persists, please make note of it in this bug report. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are