Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-28 Thread Kamil Paral
Miloslav Trmač wrote: I can't really see who is the expected user of ~/.local/bin . From my POV the whole point of ~/.local is to store data that is hidden from users - it is application data, not user data. I am. I'm using that for years and I'm very happy that bin/ doesn't clutter my

AutoQA 0.6 released

2011-08-05 Thread Kamil Paral
Please read: https://kparal.wordpress.com/2011/08/05/autoqa-0-6-released/ Kamil -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Autodetecting insufficiently hardened builds (was: New hardened build support (coming) in F16)

2011-08-10 Thread Kamil Paral
Matthew Garrett wrote: Unless the checking is part of autoqa this simply isn't sufficient. There's a huge benefit to implementing it in the way that's easiest for maintainers. The earlier a problem is detected, the cheaper it is to fix. If I have understood AutoQA right, it gets

Re: openssh: no pre-release sanity check? [Re: ssh-to-rawhide hangs

2011-09-12 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 01:02:26AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 08:56 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I thought AutoQA was going to do this, but it's been disappointing. I haven't read the whole thread, but I also feel the rate of AutoQA development is slow.

Re: Responsibility for rebuilding dependent components, was: F-16 Branched report: 20110920 changes

2011-09-23 Thread Kamil Paral
Am I right in saying that AutoQA is basically mired in the muck and going nowhere at the moment? -- Doug Ledford dledf...@redhat.com Our progress is very slow at the moment, correct. We will happily welcome some help. We don't have many tasks that you could do in a free afternoon, however.

Re: systemd, disabling cryptsetup device

2011-11-28 Thread Kamil Paral
Hi everyone! Is there a way of forcing systemd not to mount an encrypted partition when booting the system? I have one encrypted partition (on LVM) on my laptop, which I do not want to have mounted automatically. I'm mounting it only when I need it with a simple script. With F15, masking

Re: Ask Fedora

2011-11-28 Thread Kamil Paral
Dear Rahul, I'm a community moderator at Ask Ubuntu. And I was talking to some people about what mistakes we think Ask Fedora and Ask Debian have made, so I thought I'd give you some feedback. That is great feedback. All of those proposals are very reasonable. -- devel mailing

Re: systemd, disabling cryptsetup device

2011-11-28 Thread Kamil Paral
my kernel options: ro root=/dev/mapper/vg_nb-lv_root rd_LVM_LV=vg_nb/lv_root rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM You want to use rd.luks.uuid kernel option. See man dracut.kernel. rd_NO_LUKS (or rd.luks=0) disables LUKS detection entirely. I believe this is not about initrd... Jan

[Test-Announce] OpenSCAP Test Day - Thursday 2010-08-26

2010-08-25 Thread Kamil Paral
Greetings, An OpenSCAP Test Day is coming up tomorrow - Thursday 26th August: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-08-26_OpenSCAP OpenSCAP is a tool for maintaining the security of systems, such as automatically verifying the presence of patches, checking system security configuration

[Test-Announce] 2010-08-26 OpenSCAP Test Day report

2010-08-30 Thread Kamil Paral
this upcoming Fedora 14 feature. See you on the next test day, Kamil Paral [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-08-26_OpenSCAP ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

[Test-Announce] OpenLDAP/NSS Test Day - Thursday 2010-10-14

2010-10-08 Thread Kamil Paral
Dear Fedora Comunity, We would like to draw your attention to forthcoming Fedora Test Day focused on OpenLDAP [1] with TLS encryption. The crypto implementation for TLS/SSL was recently changed from OpenSSL to Mozilla Network Security Services (MozNSS). And there are 88 packages depending on

[Test-Announce] OpenLDAP/NSS Test Day - Thursday 2010-10-14 - recap

2010-10-15 Thread Kamil Paral
Hello, thanks everyone for participation in OpenLDAP/NSS Test Day [1]. The participation was little low, but it was somehow expected, because this was a non-trivial topic. Anyway, a few bugs were discovered (and other stuff was confirmed to work ok): 641946 - slapd init script gets stuck in an

Re: Rolling release model philosophy (was Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID)))

2012-11-05 Thread Kamil Paral
The entire QA team (and the entire anaconda team, for that matter) is currently spending virtually all its time trying to help bash the new anaconda into something vaguely resembling shape for a fairly arbitrary release deadline, so we can ship something called 'the Fedora 18 stable

Re: Rolling release model philosophy (was Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID)))

2012-11-05 Thread Kamil Paral
* A release for general users with low volume of security fixes and important bug fixes. ** Bug fixes would be pushed monthly and QA would be performed on this monthly batch of updates. Some packages need more than bug fix updates (unless you are taking a very broad view of what a bug is).

Re: Rolling release model philosophy (was Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID)))

2012-11-05 Thread Kamil Paral
This tool is still not going to be able to do magic and there will be config things that still need to be redone. Third party repos will still be an issue. It's a clean installation, I don't think it needs any magic. Also third-party repos are not a problem, we just ignore them and

[Test-Announce] 2012-11-07 @ 17:00 UTC - F18 Beta Blocker Bug Review #7

2012-11-07 Thread Kamil Paral
# F18 Beta Blocker Review meeting #7 # Date: 2012-11-07 # Time: 17:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net Note: The UTC time was changed. If your country switched from summer time to winter time the last weekend, your local time of the meeting should stay the same. Keeping with what

Re: Fedora Minimal Core SIG -- please join if you're interested

2012-11-09 Thread Kamil Paral
So, here's a proposal for a semi-informal group linking different stakeholders interested in curating the @core package selection: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Minimal_Core I wonder whether Core is a good word for Fedora Minimal installation SIG. Because currently the minimal

Re: Fedora Minimal Core SIG -- please join if you're interested

2012-11-12 Thread Kamil Paral
I wonder whether Core is a good word for Fedora Minimal installation SIG. Because currently the minimal installation uses @base yum group. @core group is included always, whether you want it or not. If you really want to have a_core_ system, you must use kickstart like this:

Re: Blocker Bug Voting and Conversation

2012-12-04 Thread Kamil Paral
Affected Voters: - Do you vote on blocker status in bug comments? If necessary, but I don't like it much. In my experience the discussion in the meeting is often very helpful to understand the nature of the bug, and it can shift my opinion substantially. Also I don't like spamming bugzilla

Re: Blocker Bug Voting and Conversation

2012-12-05 Thread Kamil Paral
Is it the meeting itself which you find helpful or the discussion and information during the review meetings? Could you see asynchronous conversation (exact method TBD) being as useful? The discussion is very helpful. It can be asynchronous, of course. It won't be as efficient, but that's a

Re: Detecting soname bumps

2012-12-06 Thread Kamil Paral
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 23:24 -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi wrote: IMO if a maintainer of a shared lib package goes as far as submitting a koji build without noticing a soname bump in it, the

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-08 Thread Kamil Paral
Here's what our policies say: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#All_patches_should_have_an_upstream_bug_link_or_comment All patches should have an upstream bug link or comment All patches in Fedora spec files SHOULD have a comment above them about their upstream

[Test-Announce] Fedora 13 Alpha TC Validation Test (Thu 02-11 to Wed 02-17)

2010-02-10 Thread Kamil Paral
- Forwarded Message - From: He Rui r...@redhat.com To: test list t...@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:12:57 AM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Fedora 13 Alpha TC Validation Test (Thu 02-11 to Wed 02-17) Greetings,

QA's Package update policy proposal

2010-03-09 Thread Kamil Paral
Hello, I have been (together with the QA team) working on a 'Package update policy' proposal. Because Matthew Garrett yesterday presented his own proposal regarding this topic, we decided to also present our proposal, albeit still unfinished. The proposal is here:

Re: QA's Package update policy proposal

2010-03-10 Thread Kamil Paral
- Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: There actually already *is* a review point prior to moving to -updates, but it's currently owned by rel-eng and is not highly publicized, and very little gets rejected. It is there, though: rel-eng explained this earlier in the threads, and

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-12 Thread Kamil Paral
- Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 12:21 -0600, Matt Domsch wrote: Paul: Jesse Keating provided a draft policy for what updates should be done. Board will take this into consideration, if necessary, in another round of discussions (not this meeting).

[Test-Announce] ABRT Test Day - Thursday 2010-04-01

2010-03-31 Thread Kamil Paral
Yes, it’s here again, the April Fools’ Day [1]! If you don’t have your own plans already, let me propose one for you – participate on the ABRT test day! ABRT is a tool that helps reporting program crashes with a few simple mouse clicks. It is a significant part of Fedora operating system and its

[Test-Announce] 2010-04-01 ABRT Test Day report

2010-04-06 Thread Kamil Paral
This is a post-event review of the ABRT test day [1]. Thank you everyone who contributed to ABRT testing. Unfortunately there weren't many attendants, probably because it was really close to Easter holidays. But still there were some bugs discovered, the list is here (and I'm sure even more bugs

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Alpha Test Compose 5 (TC5) Available Now!

2013-09-09 Thread Kamil Paral
I might be a little confused now. Yesterday, or Friday I did sudo fedup-cli --network 19 and I got F20, and I'm up on F20 at the moment. That is highly unlikely, that would indicate a bug in fedup. Are you sure you used 19 and that you really are on 20? Now am I to do a ...--network

[Test-Announce] Fwd: Fedora 20 Alpha Change freeze

2013-09-09 Thread Kamil Paral
A bit late, but forwarding here anyway. - Forwarded Message - From: Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us To: devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 7:24:40 AM Subject: Fedora 20 Alpha Change freeze -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, as

Re: Dracut HostOnly or ConfigurationOnly?

2013-09-09 Thread Kamil Paral
On 09/06/2013 10:15 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: Can this not be done automatically? If the system fails to boot because of significant hardware changes, it's an obvious option to regenerate initramfs. I can't image a normal user go to the rescue mode and run dracut --regenerate-all. Not

Re: Dracut HostOnly or ConfigurationOnly?

2013-09-16 Thread Kamil Paral
On 09/09/2013 11:48 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: On 09/06/2013 10:15 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: Can this not be done automatically? If the system fails to boot because of significant hardware changes, it's an obvious option to regenerate initramfs. I can't image a normal user go to the rescue

Re: AutoQA ??? (was: Re: Building and submitting updates for Fedora 20)

2013-10-07 Thread Kamil Paral
Right, Tim fixed the issue and updates in Bodhi should once again receive comments regarding depcheck and upgradepath checks. There's an opt-in support for rpmlint/rpmguard checks for every package built (the emails are sent to their maintainers), but I'm not clear whether this opt-in support

Re: Code Hosting, Development Tools and Open Source

2013-10-15 Thread Kamil Paral
I've been kicking this idea around for a bit and have chatted a little with people on IRC but as we're looking to start up development on taskbot, I want to have a larger discussion on two issues: where do we host code and what do we want to use for dev support tools (issue tracking, code

Re: Code Hosting, Development Tools and Open Source

2013-10-16 Thread Kamil Paral
With the conversation we've been having and the persona developments, I propose the following: - create FAS groups for git-taskbot-core and git-taskbot-tasks which will control access to the git repos What will git-taskbot-tasks be used to? I thought we were going to have decentralized

Re: Taskbot: TAP vs Subunit

2013-10-31 Thread Kamil Paral
= TAP = TAP is not unittest-specific, and is human-readable plaintext format. It also has just PASS/FAIL logic, but there is a possibility to add YAML 'metadata' to any result (since TAP v. 13). The real issue with TAP is Python support. There is a TAP-consumer library created as an

autoqa rpmlint crashes

2013-11-04 Thread Kamil Paral
A lot of autoqa rpmlint jobs crash lately. Just to let you know, this is a problem in rpmlint and I reported it here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1026328 ___ qa-devel mailing list qa-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Test-Announce] Printing Test Day today (Tuesday 2013-11-05)

2013-11-05 Thread Kamil Paral
The Printing Test Day for Fedora 20 is today. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-11-05_Printing This test day is for testing all aspects of printing, including setting up the printer, sharing printers on the network, and printing jobs. The changes in Fedora 20 are relatively minor:

[Test-Announce] Power Management Test Day today (2013-11-14)

2013-11-14 Thread Kamil Paral
Forwarding an invite from Jan Scotka: Hi, There is planned Power Management testday today. If you are interested to see capabilities of your machine or measure power consumption please join us, you will see what your HW know. Everybody with various HW configuration welcomed (Old New Obscure

Re: ecryptfs alternatives

2013-12-18 Thread Kamil Paral
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:33:34PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: The beauty of ecryptfs is that I can encrypt one dir - not whole file system. What's the concern with encrypting the whole filesystem? It's better for you because you leave significant personal information all over the

Re: Taskotron (was: Re: Unannounced ABI change without soname bump in libevdev-0.6 in Rawhide (and F19 and F20...) breaks GNOME, probably other consumers)

2014-01-06 Thread Kamil Paral
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 07:52:04PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: No. There's a bad one, which is AutoQA. The problem with it is it's more or less considered obsolete now as far as new development goes; the devs are working on Taskotron to replace it, but I don't believe it's ready for

Re: RFC: Taskotron task description format

2014-01-07 Thread Kamil Paral
I've finally read it as well :) Comments below. At the moment, that task yaml file for rpmlint [1] looks like: dependencies: - rpmlint - libtaskbot input: args: envr,arch These arguments are provided by the event trigger, right? So, the event trigger offers a set

AutoQA will be providing comments for Fedora updates really soon...

2011-03-21 Thread Kamil Paral
If you're a Fedora package maintainer, you will be surely interested in this topic. AutoQA [1] is a framework for automatic test execution written for Fedora needs. It is developed by Fedora QA [2] team. We have finally reached the state where we can experimentally share some tests results

[Test-Announce] ABRT Retrace Server Test Day today (2011-03-31)

2011-03-31 Thread Kamil Paral
Fedora QA holds Test Day regarding ABRT 2 and Retrace Server on March 31: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-03-31_ABRT_Retrace_Server This test day will focus on Retrace Server feature [1] in Fedora 15 as well as ABRT 2.0. Refreshed and bright new test cases are prepared for your

AutoQA vs Bodhi – round 2

2011-04-11 Thread Kamil Paral
As you probably noticed not so long ago we announced [1] that AutoQA [2] would be sending comments to Bodhi [3] and inform package maintainers about the results of important test cases (depcheck and ugpradepath). We enabled the functionality and disabled it again very soon due to a number of

Re: AutoQA: distro congestion?

2011-04-18 Thread Kamil Paral
Hi, I built two sets of security updates for f13/f14/f15 and autoqa rejected the f13/f14 packages. It looks like autoqa is waiting for the packages to be properly pushed to fN+1 stable before green-lighting the matching package for fN. I suppose you're talking about upgradepath test.

Re: AutoQA: distro congestion?

2011-04-18 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 04:35 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: I built two sets of security updates for f13/f14/f15 and autoqa rejected the f13/f14 packages. It looks like autoqa is waiting for the packages to be properly pushed to fN+1 stable before green-lighting the matching package

Re: AutoQA: distro congestion?

2011-04-18 Thread Kamil Paral
I've created a short blogpost about this issue: http://kparal.wordpress.com/2011/04/18/autoqa-upgradepath-vs-updates-to-multiple-fedora-releases/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: AutoQA upgrade path failure makes no sense to me

2011-04-27 Thread Kamil Paral
Here is the update: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libguestfs-1.6.2-1.fc13.7 Here's the failed test result: http://autoqa.fedoraproject.org/results/87921-autotest/qa03.c.fedoraproject.org/upgradepath/results/output.log This is pretty confusing. Why does it mention other

Re: Avoiding conditioning ignorance towards AutoQA

2011-04-27 Thread Kamil Paral
Hi fellow Fedorans. Recently, AutoQA has been introduced to catch typical problems early in the update process. In general, I appreciate that effort, but currently I find myself in a phase of conditioning ignorance towards AutoQA, essentially because it is drowning me in irrelevant

Re: Avoiding conditioning ignorance towards AutoQA

2011-04-28 Thread Kamil Paral
Keeping the current way will just make me (and possibly others) add filters to throw away messages from AutoQA. Please be aware of how much contributor time you waste by making them hope through useless (because the tests have passed and no information is gained) mails. I realize you want

AutoQA 0.4.7 released

2011-04-29 Thread Kamil Paral
Please read: http://kparal.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/autoqa-0-4-7-released/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

AutoQA 0.5.0 released

2011-06-29 Thread Kamil Paral
AutoQA 0.5.0 has just been released and deployed. Package maintainers will see some notable changes. Please read the whole description here: http://kparal.wordpress.com/2011/06/29/autoqa-0-5-0-released/ Comments welcome. Kamil -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Broken upgrade path(s) detected for: yaml-cpp

2012-04-19 Thread Kamil Paral
Today I've followed instructions from http://jlaska.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/fedora-package-maintainers-want-test-results/ is that right? I've run: autoqa-optin UpTools F-15 Tell me if I'm wrong That is correct if you want to receive rpmlint/rpmguard test output for every new build.

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-19 Thread Kamil Paral
However in the meantime for F17, is the installer Easter egg hunt still on? It's way too obscure presently. I did some minor tweaks, posted the code here: https://github.com/kparal/InstallFedoraButton and prepared a patch for fedora-live-desktop.ks. I want to post the patch to

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-19 Thread Kamil Paral
I did some minor tweaks, posted the code here: https://github.com/kparal/InstallFedoraButton and prepared a patch for fedora-live-desktop.ks. I want to post the patch to anaconda-devel this week. What do you thing about moving the icon to the left? This has already been raised in

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-20 Thread Kamil Paral
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 16:24 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: That is obscure UI design, and therefore doesn't resolve the current UI obscurity. So I see very little efficacy in the idea. To contribute something positive here, I went ahead and implemented the 'oscurity'. See attached. I

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-27 Thread Kamil Paral
There seems to be at least some consensus that: * The notification, unless permanent, is not an ideal solution here because once it goes away, the user is in the same situation of confusion as to how to install the Live Image to disk. * The extension as proposed is not an ideal solution

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-27 Thread Kamil Paral
but they don't push on any other solutions. A link from the http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora page directly to http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Quick_Start_Guide/Fedora_Live_Desktop.html ? I've spent 5 minutes looking for that direct link and I haven't

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-05-03 Thread Kamil Paral
I'd also suggest merely indefinite article a instead of any. Simper for translation. How are the translations going to be handled, Kalev? How do you get it into spin-kickstarts? Is there enough time to set up project in transifex (or whatever is Fedora using) and have this translated before

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-05-04 Thread Kamil Paral
Hi all, Yesterday night I noticed an IRC conversation on #fedora-desktop about this, and suggested that an actual window would be a lot better than a notification. Kalev, Matthias and the people there agreed with me, so I went ahead and wrote some code that does just that [1].

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-05-04 Thread Kamil Paral
Is there enough time to set up project in transifex (or whatever is Fedora using) and have this translated before F17 release? Perhaps we can. Not sure if there's enough time for that. What's the use case for translations? I'll note that there's no way to select the language in the

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-05-09 Thread Kamil Paral
On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 10:31 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: Cosimo, can you please make sure the whole window can be closed easily just by pressing the Escape key? That will help really help those of us who run LiveCDs many times per day, and it will not hurt other people in any way

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-05-09 Thread Kamil Paral
The one complaint I still have is that the window is really huge. I mean, it's taking up, what, 80% of the desktop real estate? That is just perfect, it's the welcome screen. It should receive complete attention. In Ubuntu there are even no panels/widgets shown until you make the selection.

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-05-16 Thread Kamil Paral
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 04:51 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: Cosimo, can you please also make sure that the Close button gets keyboard focus automatically after I click on Try Fedora? I now fixed this here [1], but it will need to be applied to the copy of that code that lives in anaconda now

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-04 Thread Kamil Paral
I'd like to brought to wider attention the bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693180 What's the matter? If you install wine, it brings as a dependency wine-tahoma font, that is then included in system wide fonts list. This causes the font to be used by applications like

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-05 Thread Kamil Paral
Andreas wrote: Hi, first I would like to point out that I am totally open for a discussion about this. IMO bugzilla is just not the right place for it. Thanks, that's great. Chris wrote: Well, no they don't. They are requesting the font Microsoft calls Tahoma, not a Wine-provided

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-06 Thread Kamil Paral
We could of course aim for a dual-solution: Let wine-tahoma-fonts put the fonts in the wine font dir (mandatory for wine) and add a wine-tahoma-fonts-system package (names suggestions welcome) which also puts the fonts in the system wide font path (optional). I believe this would be the best

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-11 Thread Kamil Paral
Andreas Bierfert wrote: We could of course aim for a dual-solution: Let wine-tahoma-fonts put the fonts in the wine font dir (mandatory for wine) and add a wine-tahoma-fonts-system package (names suggestions welcome) which also puts the fonts in the system wide font path (optional).

swapping disk with UEFI hardware - a dead end?

2012-06-28 Thread Kamil Paral
If you are knowledgeable about UEFI, I'll welcome your advice. This is the issue I encountered: 1. I enabled UEFI mode in BIOS in Lenovo X220 (more exactly I set UEFI as the preferred method). 2. I installed Fedora 17. 3. Fedora item appeared in BIOS in Boot order and also in the boot manager

Re: swapping disk with UEFI hardware - a dead end?

2012-06-28 Thread Kamil Paral
Having sent that mail it became obvious that what's happened is that your new x220 board doesn't have the efi boot variable set. Some machines allow you to boot from a file, in which case it'll be /efi/fedora/grubx64.efi . If your firmware doesn't have that, you'll need to boot some

Re: Use AutoQA to track changes in provides and requires?

2012-08-01 Thread Kamil Paral
Just an idea I had and wanted to float it out to the group... I think it would be nice to get an informational (obviously, not a blocking type check) to get changes in the requires or provides of a package. It would be a hassle to check it manually but I hope it would be fairly easy to

Re: Use AutoQA to track changes in provides and requires?

2012-08-02 Thread Kamil Paral
On Wed, 2012-08-01 at 11:17 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com wrote: Something like this? [1] [2] Yup! Something a lot like that! I did look over the AutoQA wiki before posting but didn't know enough about rpmguard to know

Re: bohdi AutoQA: depcheck test FAILED

2012-08-21 Thread Kamil Paral
hi, i need help, because the AutoQA DepCheck fails on the package speed-dreams,but the package was pushed anyway. AutoQA DepCheck log: http://autoqa.fedoraproject.org/results/418027-autotest/virt04.qa/depcheck/results/speed-dreams-2.1.0-1.html the problem was already discussed on

Re: bohdi AutoQA: depcheck test FAILED

2012-08-22 Thread Kamil Paral
Following this track: if I look into the build log for the 64-bit f17 build [1], it seems that the package doesn't require anything but the libenet-1.3.3(64-bit). So; in my simple eyes, this looks like AutoQA doesn't really understand the situation if it says it needs the 32-bit

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Alpha Test Compose 6 (TC6) Available Now!

2012-09-09 Thread Kamil Paral
As per the Fedora 18 schedule [1], Fedora 18 Alpha Test Compose 6 (TC6) is now available for testing. Please note that Live images are mislabeled (contain 'TC5' in their name), but they are TC6 content. ___ test-announce mailing list

Re: Results of a test mass rebuild of rawhide/x86_64 with gcc-4.7.0-0.1.fc17

2012-01-04 Thread Kamil Paral
Thanks for the pointers. By running this command, I have signed up for iwhd-related notifications in F-16 and rawhide: ssh fedorapeople.org autoqa-optin iwhd devel F-16 With this command you will subscribe for rpmlint and rpmguard test results for every new build [1]. Depcheck and

Re: RATS: now in production

2012-02-21 Thread Kamil Paral
On 02/21/2012 10:48 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: the rats_install test runs an entirely automated test of the Fedora installer daily, against the daily installer composes provided by release engineering. It provides detailed logs and pinpoints where failure occurs if the installation

Re: F17 x86_64 composes

2012-03-05 Thread Kamil Paral
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:37:50 -0600 Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net wrote: Noticed that x86_64 tree is still NOT installable, as in no boot.iso or anything. Is this going to remain that way for awhile? Well, it's going to stay that way until the bug that prevents it working is fixed.

[Test-Announce] Test Day 2012-03-15: GNOME Shell and Extensions

2012-03-12 Thread Kamil Paral
There will be a GNOME Shell and Extensions Test Day on Thursday! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-15_Gnome_Shell_and_Extensions Here's an introduction from Vitezslav Humpa, who's in charge of this event from QA perspective: While Fedora 17 Test Day cycle is starting to take

Re: Depcheck failed?

2012-03-26 Thread Kamil Paral
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote: Darn... I was hoping that wouldn't bite me :) I'm assuming I can ignore the error though? Or does it need to be fixed? Fix.  :( Which

[Test-Announce] Test Day 2012-03-29: GNOME Shell Software Rendering

2012-03-27 Thread Kamil Paral
There will be a GNOME Shell Software Rendering Test Day on Thursday! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-29_Gnome_Shell_Software_Rendering Here's an introduction from Vitezslav Humpa, who's in charge of this event from QA perspective: This week brings a second installment of Fedora

Re: Dependencies on Bodhi Updates

2012-04-02 Thread Kamil Paral
So I really see two options for improving these situations: 1) https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/663 I opened this ticket two months ago (to silence). The idea would be to add the ability for bodhi updates to mark other updates as a dependency, so that in the example above, Firefox could

Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Kamil Paral
I was quite depressed how hard it can be for a layman to find a way to install Fedora from LiveCD environment. If you don't recognize the icon in Gnome Shell Overview mode, it can give you quite some work to find it. Since OSS philosophy is if you don't like it, fix it, I did. In the last two

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Kamil Paral
On Apr 3, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: You can see it here: http://kparal.fedorapeople.org/misc/InstallFedoraButton.png What do you think? Better than default? How about Install Fedora since it could be installed to SSD or iSCSI etc. I pull that string from default anaconda

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Kamil Paral
So, we decided for F16 that we don't want to add extensions like that to the shell that we ship on the live cd. It should be the default experience. Can't be 100% default, because installer is a slightly different use case, isn't it. For the 'make installing obvious' problem, what we

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Kamil Paral
To summarize, I see two major paths: a) Make installer launcher more visible: e.g. http://kparal.fedorapeople.org/misc/InstallFedoraButton.png -or- b) Use a proxy window asking which use case is relevant for you: e.g. http://i.imgur.com/I26vS.png Both approaches are fine in my view and

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Kamil Paral
Actually... would it make sense to force a notification event about the install option on live CD login? It pops up for a few seconds in the message tray telling you this media can be used for a full install..and then the message lives in the message tray until dismissed. That is a good

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-04 Thread Kamil Paral
That is a good idea that can be probably implemented very easily. However, what is the benefit over a persistent button in the top panel? I believe its adequately provides a solution to meet all constraints so far expressed in this discussion. 1) Notice on login with buttons! 2)

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-06 Thread Kamil Paral
The discussion died off, so I'll sum it up: * Almost everyone agreed that current situation is highly unsatisfactory. * We have several ideas how to remedy it, which include: top bar button, notification and welcome screen. * We have just a single implementation, which is the top bar button.

Re: size of F17 install DVD

2012-04-09 Thread Kamil Paral
nonamedotc nonamedotc at gmail.com writes: Could someone please tell me why the install DVD for F17 is smaller than that for earlier releases. The install DVD is 2.3 GB whereas the one for F16, for example, is 3.5 GB. Thanks. AFAIK no one has completely figured this out yet. I

Re: Dependencies on Bodhi Updates

2012-04-18 Thread Kamil Paral
Having this implemented manually would be great. In the future I'd like to replace it with automatic process managed by AutoQA. AutoQA would say Bodhi this update can be only pushed together with this other update, because the first one depends on the second one. The maintainer wouldn't

Re: Broken upgrade path(s) detected for: yaml-cpp

2012-04-18 Thread Kamil Paral
In addition, I had fixed the script to properly support updates-testing repositories eons ago (should not compare fn-1-updates-testing with fn- updates), but my patch (attached) was never merged because the script was to be obsoleted by AutoQA anyway according to Jesse Keating. AutoQA

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-18 Thread Kamil Paral
One angle on this that didn't get pointed out, I guess because anaconda team apparently isn't reading, is that at least one person on the anaconda team - I forget who - hates liveinst with a passion and has been proposing forever to kill it and replace it with a choice on the live image boot

Re: Preupgrade F12-F13 error

2010-05-13 Thread Kamil Paral
- Clovis Tristao clo...@agr.unicamp.br wrote: How do I increase size the boot partition, with LVM? My partition: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda1 190M 39M 142M 22% /boot Can anyone help? Thanks a lot, Clóvis I think the easiest

Re: No video play back after upgrading from F12 to F13

2010-06-10 Thread Kamil Paral
- Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 13:18 +0800, Luming Yu wrote: Hi there, After yum upgrade from f12 to f13, I see the video play back stop working (play back window is black and the progress bar seems to be always at 0) with banshee and totem.

gathering useful statistics for Package Maintainers

2010-07-20 Thread Kamil Paral
Hello, we would like to help Package Maintainers to increase public participation in their activities. We believe that an important step in achieving that is in rewarding the most active participants with fame in different top tens, ladders and charts. Therefore we would like to extend the

Re: Most buggy packages

2013-02-25 Thread Kamil Paral
Hi, since we opened the question of the most buggy applications I would like to introduce you the Fedora crash statistics generated from ABRT reports. It actually doesn't show the most buggy applications, but the number of crashes per application encountered by users in some period of

Re: Most buggy packages

2013-02-25 Thread Kamil Paral
Are you going to let bugzilla maintainers know somehow? I would assume that once the crash count surpasses a certain threshold, you could add a comment to the bugzilla report: This has crashed for 100 users, see [FAF URL] for details. This has crashed for 1000 users, see [FAF URL] for

Re: Fedora 19 schedule's new home plans

2013-03-01 Thread Kamil Paral
Dne 1.3.2013 14:09, Jaroslav Reznik napsal(a): Hi all! (and sorry for post to sooo many lists) As we already have a final schedule (for a three weeks now) and we're getting closer to release windmills - I'd like to make the schedule easy to use for everyone (and that means for me too),

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