On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 15:09, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
On Tue, 04.10.11 19:38, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote:
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 15:53 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote:
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:32 PM, JB jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me append The Blame
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 15:28, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
On Tue, 04.10.11 19:40, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote:
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 16:55 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote:
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:32 PM, JB jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote:
13837ms
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 22:26, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
On Wed, 19.10.11 13:43, Richard Shaw (hobbes1...@gmail.com) wrote:
It looks like I'll be taking over mythtv packaging for RPM Fusion and
I noticed it still only uses a sysv init script.
In the sysv script it sets
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 23:20, Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
On 19/10/11 21:48, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Lennart Poettering
mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
You should manage acess control
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 23:35, Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Kay Sievers kay.siev...@vrfy.org wrote:
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 23:20, Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
On 19/10
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:46, Harald Hoyer harald.ho...@gmail.com wrote:
4.6. /usr/lib : Libraries for programming and packages
4.6.1. Purpose
/usr/lib includes object files and libraries. ^[22] On some systems, it
may also include internal binaries that are not intended to be executed
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:51, David Tardon dtar...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:38:15AM +0200, Michal Hlavinka wrote:
On 10/27/2011 10:34 AM, Harald Hoyer wrote:
That would also mean that libreoffice (using /usr/lib*/libreoffice)
should have all binaries there? I guess not.
2011/11/9 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com:
On 11/09/2011 05:49 AM, Ian Kent wrote:
That only leaves this relevant sections from that quick look that needs
some work and remains questionable if that should be handled in unit
file et all...
# Check misc device
if [ -n
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz wrote:
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de
wrote:
which syslog does not: for example per-service rate limits,
False. http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/imuxsock.html, There is input rate
limiting
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Konstantin Ryabitsev
i...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Lennart Poettering
mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
Can journalctl send the logs via logwatch?
Not sure I can parse this, but IIUC you are wondering whether logwatch
is compatible
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Konstantin Ryabitsev
i...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Kay Sievers k...@vrfy.org wrote:
So, in other words, all our existing log analysis tools have to be
modified if they are to be of any use in Fedora 18?
What part of Run
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Additionally, it _would_ be cool for log monitoring and analysis tools to
gain journald support, so that users of those tools can take advantage of
all the features Lennart lists. If we could have some of those in
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Konstantin Ryabitsev
i...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de
wrote:
I am not generally against adding time-based rotation, but really, this
is much less of a necessity than other things the journal
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 21:44 +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Konstantin Ryabitsev
i...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de
wrote:
I am
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 10:58:45AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
Like to me rsyslog since the journal is an integrated part of systemd.
Leaving aside the merits or otherwise of the journal, why does it need
to
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Lennart Poettering
mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
On Wed, 23.01.13 18:04, Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) wrote:
FedUp is in fact yum-upgrade as well, but in dracut environment (aka off-line
upgrade). Some devels say that offline upgrade is only way. But
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 07:59:07PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
The udevd service has a long history of providing predicatable names for
block devices and others. For
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:07 AM, John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote:
On 01/23/2013 02:49 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
Just looking at 'lspci' will in most
cases tell you what the name of the network interface will be.
This is not true for my machines, which I built
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote:
On 01/23/2013 05:29 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
What udev does here is the only sensible thing to do, if there is no
authoritative information from the firmware about that, we don't make
assumptions, we use the reasonable
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
But I guess we simply have a different definition of a user here. Your
definition is probably closer to what the page calls admins, which is
covered by the next lines
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:
how I should do the old command udevadm: control --reload-rules ?
is correct : systemctl restart udev.service ?
I don't find any in documentation that guarantee this .
BTW in F18: udev.service change the name to
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz wrote:
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote:
= Features/SystemdHardwareDatabase =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdHardwareDatabase
Feature owner(s): Kay Sievers kay at redhat dot
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said:
The hwdb is drop-in directory based, which means:
- additionally installed data overwrites shipped data
- stuff with the same file name in /etc/ disables stuff in /usr/lib/
Users
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
G.Wolfe Woodbury (redwo...@gmail.com) said:
The kernel nowadays comes with built-in support for the vast majority of
all common storage hardware anyway, because AHCI is pretty universally
established. Outside of
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said:
Realistically, it's new textual files, replacing old textual files, which
are then compiled into a binary file. I'm not sure why there's the
intermediate step of a second textual
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Gerd Hoffmann kra...@redhat.com wrote:
On 01/30/13 01:08, Kay Sievers wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said:
Realistically, it's new textual files, replacing old textual files, which
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Gerd Hoffmann kra...@redhat.com wrote:
On 01/30/13 11:55, Kay Sievers wrote:
Hi,
Still looks pointless.
You convert the old-format into new-format, then compile new-format into
the database. It's not obvious why you don't go straight from
old-format
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 02:54, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
On Fri, 29.04.11 17:46, Greg KH (g...@kroah.com) wrote:
I think /srv actually makes a lot of sense. Probably not so much on the
desktop, but the boundaries are blurry, and I see no reason to set
things up
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 21:45, Adam Miller
maxamill...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 09:16:13PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
SNIP
Hmm? Which ones in fedora can't? Are you suggesting we are shipping
software that cannot be modified? If so, please explain which one that
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 21:59, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de writes:
On Mon, 18.07.11 15:34, Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) wrote:
Well, if they didn't need fixed before, they'll certainly need fixed
when you make them start keeping their configuration
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 23:20, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Hmm? Which ones in fedora can't? Are you suggesting we are shipping
software that cannot be modified? If so, please explain which one that
is, since we need to remove it from
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 23:27, David Michael fedora@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
Right, but that then causes 'last one wins' behavior among multiple DMs.
I suppose we could use alternatives for this, as much as I dislike it.
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 18:21, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
Kay Sievers (kay.siev...@vrfy.org) said:
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 23:27, David Michael fedora@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com
wrote:
Right, but that then causes
We merged the upstream udev repository entirely into the systemd
repository. There is no standalone upstream udev project anymore.
The version of systemd which includes udev has landed in rawhide a
couple of days ago. Fedora 18 will not have a udev.rpm, no libudev.rpm
and no libudev-devel.rpm.
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com wrote:
2012/8/3 Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de:
On Wed, 01.08.12 15:28, Tom Callaway (tcall...@redhat.com) wrote:
A new section on Macros has been added to the Packaging Guidelines,
covering Packaging of Additional
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 14:01, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
On Wed, 14.12.11 12:25, Andrew Price (anpr...@redhat.com) wrote:
From the systemd.mount(5) man page:
Mount units may either be configured via unit files, or via /etc/fstab
This makes me wonder - to what extent
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 23:36, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 14:23 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 14:10 +0100, Harald Hoyer wrote:
Hello Testers and rawhide Users,
Fedora 17 will locate the entire base operating system in /usr. The
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 14:10, Harald Hoyer har...@redhat.com wrote:
Hello Testers and rawhide Users,
Fedora 17 will locate the entire base operating system in /usr. The
directories
/bin, /sbin, /lib, /lib64 will only be symlinks:
/bin → /usr/bin
/sbin → /usr/sbin
/lib → /usr/lib
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:25, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/02/12 18:47, Kay Sievers wrote:
The former dracut ‘usrmove’ module has been renamed to ‘convertfs’. We
need to carry that option for quite some time through future releases
Does this mean that ‘convertfs
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 13:51, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
On Mon, 20.02.12 13:32, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mail...@laposte.net) wrote:
Le Lun 20 février 2012 13:02, Lennart Poettering a écrit :
Something similar applies to udev rules and similar almost code bits.
But
On Feb 20, 2012 6:25 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote:
This sounds like the unit files belong in %{_libdir} now? However, that
would mean that they can't go into noarch packages. So we probably need
to
know a little more about just how architecture dependent these unit files
can
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 20:42, Nicolas Mailhot
nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
Le Lun 20 février 2012 18:50, Kay Sievers a écrit :
On Feb 20, 2012 6:25 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote:
Udev rules and systemd units belong to the installed daemon. This daemon
can only exist
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 20:18, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:30:11PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Mon, 20.02.12 09:25, Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) wrote:
This sounds like the unit files belong in %{_libdir} now? However, that
would
2012/2/20 Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz:
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Kay Sievers kay.siev...@vrfy.org wrote:
The general rule for $libdir is that it is reserved for shared objects
and their directly associated files like pkgconfig files.
No, that's not at all what the FHS says
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 21:25, Nicolas Mailhot
nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
Le Lun 20 février 2012 21:20, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
Le Lun 20 février 2012 21:07, Kay Sievers a écrit :
I couldn't disagree more.
/usr/share in our general understanding not to be used for
package-private
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 17:21, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote:
Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be
honest - it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user
POV.
Just disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/config.
Which is exactly the use model of /etc we
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Scott Schmit i.g...@comcast.net wrote:
Current:
em1 - enp2s0
That is expected, and actually the right thing to do. Udev cannot
apply such it looks like it is embedded heuristics for very
practical technical reasons. There is no reliable information about
that
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com wrote:
We
will need a method to enable/disable on a per-vendor basis as we
added to RHEL in the udev rules that invoke (or don't) biosdevname.
The suggestion of linking in (or not) rules files won't work for a
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com wrote:
I am concerned about the naming convention at installtime. The
current proposal removes biosdevname from comps @core as mandatory,
and I presume would also remove it from the anaconda install
environment as well. This
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:
Hi, OK but we don't have any command to trigger only /dev/vboxusb/* ?
You are not supposed to trigger changes for hardware on the running
system, *ever*. Package scripts are package scripts, not magic system
administration
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Andy Gospodarek agosp...@redhat.com wrote:
I'd like to see kernel driver work to be sure every multi-port driver
with the same PCI b/d/b/f sets dev_id. That isn't necessarily true
today, which makes it hard to trust. biosdevname needs this too,
until
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Andy Gospodarek agosp...@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 10:19:14AM -0600, Matt Domsch wrote:
drivers/net/ethernet/mellanox/mlx4/en_netdev.c: dev-dev_id = port - 1;
drivers/net/ethernet/sfc/siena.c: efx-net_dev-dev_id =
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Michal Schmidt mschm...@redhat.com wrote:
On 03/04/2013 04:01 PM, Matt Domsch wrote:
drivers/net/ethernet/sfc/siena.c: efx-net_dev-dev_id =
EFX_OWORD_FIELD(reg, FRF_CZ_CS_PORT_NUM) - 1;
I think sfc does not really *need* to set dev_id.
Yes, these are
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:28 PM, narendr...@dell.com wrote:
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On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Michal Schmidt mschm...@redhat.com wrote:
On 05/23/2013 11:46 AM, Sergio Belkin wrote:
I've found the following in Fedora 18
[root@mpinode02 sergio]# LANG=C ls /run/udev/rules.d
ls: cannot access /run/udev/rules.d: No such file or directory
I haven't found
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz wrote:
rsyslog has facilities to read from journal, send the full data in
text, receive and read it back, and even write it back to journal at
the destination. (Full disclosure I haven't actually tried such a
chain up, and I
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com wrote:
On 2014-04-07, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
On Mon, 07.04.14 15:00, Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) wrote:
* PrivateDevices=yes and PrivateNetwork=yes For Long-Running Services
URL:
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
And calling /usr/libexec Fedora-only is of course kind of
funny.
libexec is Fedora-only, no other major distro used it, not even LSB
allowed it.
It makes no sense to ever have that, and the rest of the world
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 05.05.2014 21:45, schrieb Kay Sievers:
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org
wrote:
And calling /usr/libexec Fedora-only is of course kind of
funny.
libexec is Fedora-only
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote:
= Proposed System Wide Change: Systemd Package Split =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SystemdPackageSplit
Change owner(s): Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl
Split systemd-units out of the main
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote:
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 04:41:53AM +, Peter Robinson wrote:
I agree on the systemd-filesystem side of things, the binaries sounds
like it would be better described as systemd-utils with a provides for
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