A bit late, but still this thread has been slightly getting on my
nerves...
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:44:40 +0100
Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 11:35:08AM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
I am sure display manager can easily grow a button to say something
along the lines of: change
Hi,
just a few minutes ago I received a mail from FAS (I've double checked
that the info inside is correct and that it indeed came from fedora
infra machines) informing me of a user requesting a membership in one
of the groups I have sponsor status in. That wouldn't be surprising
were it not for
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 10:42 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
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On 07/30/2010 02:13 AM, Martin Sourada wrote:
Ok, so trying to update a package (libass) I've noticed a tiny problem:
the fedpkg switch-branch does not seem to set up proper tracking
Hi,
I've been wondering what's up with webkitgtk maintainership. It's pretty
important gnome desktop component but it looks rather neglected. Last
update on stable branches of fedora was done by rahul who even isn't in
the commit acl's on webkitgtk and since then there where three upstream
bugfix
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 09:28 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
What we really need
is someone who would take care about all WebKit implementations in Fedora
and it's nearly full time job :-) Or even better - someone realizes that
shipping X nearly standalone webkits on Y toolkits is just a
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 09:43 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-01 at 09:24 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
Hi,
I've been wondering what's up with webkitgtk maintainership. It's pretty
important gnome desktop component but it looks rather neglected. Last
update on stable
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 05:40 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Neal Becker wrote:
OK, got mercurial updated for devel, apparantly OK. Now try to update
f13:
[snip a bunch of git tribulations]
It's quite telling that the git workflow is so arcane and exotic that even
the maintainer of another
On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 17:33 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 09:18 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 05:01 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
Is this hidden somewhere, missing or not included any longer? I can't
seem to find it at all.
Parts of it will
On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 13:47 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 22:36 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 17:33 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 09:18 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 05:01 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 14:09 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
The new personalisation panel will only allow you to change background
and screensaver. Changing themes/fonts of all kinds for accessibility
purposes will be in the a11y panel (should already be in master
upstream).
Interesting design
On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 18:11 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
There is already WebKit page on Wiki [1] but I'd
like to use this one as the entry point for users, not for more concrete
technical discussion. So I created another page under SIGs category [2] (is
there any policy for creation of
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 17:17 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Friday, August 13, 2010 05:09:17 pm Kevin Kofler wrote:
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
Then we have to push broken updates, policy says so and it's ok, so let's
do it
:(
A policy requiring us to push something broken is
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 20:17 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Martin Sourada wrote:
I wonder why I get the impression that the only ones who strongly oppose
this change are you folks from KDE SIG... Are you doing things
differently from anyone else in fedora - the rest of us are either more
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 20:14 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Martin Sourada wrote:
I wonder why I get the impression that the only ones who strongly oppose
this change are you folks from KDE SIG... Are you doing things
differently from anyone else in fedora - the rest of us are either more
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 10:32 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Martin Sourada wrote:
There are also bazillion distributions out there who are on the bleeding
edge.
But none that have the current stuff without blatant breakage as updates to
the stable releases, and ship the exciting
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 19:14 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Martin Sourada wrote:
Seeing your mail, you more or less agree with this. So why exactly are
you against the policy explicitly requiring either positive karma or
some minimal time in testing (setting aside some current shrotcommings
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 19:05 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Martin Sourada wrote:
I still remember the epic fail of having KDE 4.0 in stable fedora
* I still think the KDE 4.0.3 we shipped in F9 wasn't that bad. We fixed all
the showstoppers before F9 was released, and were also quick to ship
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 23:03 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote:
Hi, all.
As the primary maintainer of Fedora's WebKitGTK+ stack, allow me first
to apologize for my lack of diligence here. Let me simply say that I
know now that almost maxing-out one's unit counts for a semester,
double-majoring, and
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 12:41 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 08/27/2010 10:44 AM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
1. I noticed that one can no longer (with v8-2) turn off the computer by
clicking the
'turn off computer' button in KDE. I figured out, with help of recent
threads, that one
On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 12:20 +, Rawhide Report wrote:
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entangle-0.1.0-7.fc14.x86_64 requires libmozjs.so()(64bit)
ethos-0.2.2-7.fc15.i686 requires libmozjs.so
ethos-0.2.2-7.fc15.x86_64 requires libmozjs.so()(64bit)
snip
gjs-0.7.1-3.fc14.i686 requires
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 10:32 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:59:21 +0300
Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro wrote:
On 09/02/2010 03:07 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
On 09/01/2010 07:59 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
So? Is there any way to use youtube on Fedora?
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 10:00 +0200, Haïkel Guémar wrote:
You can set the init process in grub.conf, just append to the kernel
line the following:
real_init=/bin/systemd
Forgive the probably dumb question, but why real_init? I was using
init=/sbin/upstart
back in the days when systemd was
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 09:57 +0200, Martin Stransky wrote:
On 09/30/2010 08:54 PM, Sven Lankes wrote:
2. The combination of the Mozilla Trademark issue combined with the
strict handling of patches by (corporate|distro)-maintainers (I don't
think that this is a RH/Fedora issue - same
Hi all,
as required by the licensing guidelines [1] I announce hereby a license
change in gtk-murrine-engine in version 0.98.1 and newer to
dual-licensing LGPLv2.1 and LGPLv3 from GPLv2+. Since the change is to
more permissive licenses, AFAIK nothing in fedora uses
gtk-murrine-engine directly and
Hi Dan,
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:52:03 -0800
Dan Mashal wrote:
Lets all listen to Miami because she did a great job with anaconda 18
UI design, knows more than Linus, Alan Cox and is absolutely right on
everything!
Now, as much as I strongly disagree with the UI changes anaconda made
in
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:27:42 -0500
Máirín Duffy wrote:
On Mon 28 Jan 2013 02:17:29 PM EST, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Going away isn't the correct phrase. The UI of Fallback Mode is
going to transition to a new feature called Classic Mode. It's an
official feature of Gnome 3.8.
Hi Marina,
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:14:41 +0100
Marina Latini wrote:
Hi all,
I'm an Ambassador and this proposal is confusing me.
We have LibreOffice in our repositories; I think that bring back
Apache OpenOffice generates only confusion between users, not freedom
of choice.
The confusion
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:43:58 +
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
On 01/31/2013 12:28 PM, Martin Sourada wrote:
Hi Marina,
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:14:41 +0100
Marina Latini wrote:
Hi all,
I'm an Ambassador and this proposal is confusing me.
We have LibreOffice in our repositories
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:06:17 +0100
Marina Latini wrote:
Maybe a power user is able to understand the main differences between
LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice but, what about newbie users?
If they can install their preferred suite on Windows why not on
GNU/Linux? People would be more confused
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:36:57 -0500
Bill Nottingham wrote:
Martin Sourada (martin.sour...@gmail.com) said:
I'm an Ambassador and this proposal is confusing me.
We have LibreOffice in our repositories; I think that bring back
Apache OpenOffice generates only confusion between users
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 09:38:19 +0100
Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 09:34 +0100, Robert Mayr wrote:
2013/2/1 Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com
Yes, defaults needs to be sensible and usable and for many
people
that's what
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 20:37:50 +0200
Reindl Harald wrote:
who is using mc on a full featured desktop?
typically it is used where you do not have a fat graphical filemanager
Point me to such graphical filemanager. I fail to see even a decent gui
alternative to mc under linux. MC *is* typically
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:59:55 +0200
Vít Ondruch wrote:
Dne 22.9.2013 10:32, Martin Sourada napsal(a):
Point me to such graphical filemanager. I fail to see even a decent
gui alternative to mc under linux.
You can try Double Commander if you like.
I'd expect much less wasted space
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 11:18 -0500, Eric Sparks Christensen wrote:
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:04, Patrick MONNERAT p...@datasphere.ch wrote:
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 17:48 +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
You need to do patch on top of source tree container
mycoolpkg-5.3/
/Makefile
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 17:17 -0500, Eric Sparks Christensen wrote:
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On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 11:18 -0500, Eric Sparks Christensen wrote:
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:19:49 +
Rawhide Report wrote:
nautilus-2.91.8-2.fc15
--
* Mon Jan 31 2011 Cosimo Cecchi cosi...@redhat.com - 2.91.8-2
- Update selinux patch
* Mon Jan 31 2011 Cosimo Cecchi cosi...@redhat.com - 2.91.8-1
- Update to 2.91.8
Does not update:
Hi,
libass's license changed from GPLv2+ to ISC, which is more
permissive, since 0.9.12. No ABI/API changes, only fixes/improvements
so I'm going to push it to all releases.
Regards,
Martin
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I used preupgrade for the first time and had a similar experience, but
nothing one cannot fix...
1. Prepared the preupgrade process (f16-f17)
2. reboot and start upgrade
3. upgrade gets stuck on some package (IIRC it was something lisp
related). No CPU or HDD usage for about half an hour
4. got
Hi Adam,
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:39:38 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sat, 2012-06-09 at 16:11 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
I used preupgrade for the first time and had a similar experience,
but nothing one cannot fix...
1. Prepared the preupgrade process (f16-f17)
2. reboot
Hi all,
I've just fixed (yes, I know I'm late) gxine build. GXine video player
isn't exactly speedily developed piece of software (last hg commit is 5
months old) and it isn't exactly stable either... I, as the main
maintainer, have too little time to be able to fix crasher bugs,
and I am also
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:44:16 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
drago01 wrote:
Because some people that can actually use it (i.e I never
accidentally click when trying to move the mouse; maybe you just
have a crappy touchpad?).
On my notebook, touchpad tapping is off of course. I have this
Hi Adam,
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:54:07 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:
When lots of people who clearly aren't complete idiots tell you
something happens to them, it's probably best just to accept that it
does, because arguing that you can't possibly see how it could
possibly happen to them is
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:39:27 +0200
Till Maas wrote:
This has already manifested for me with the slow keys feature that GDM
enables and makes one believe that the keyboard died.
Yes, this happened to me once as well... I was really bewildered as to
what to do. But I think with tapping it's the
On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 18:21:43 -0600
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 17:46:45 +,
Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
leonidas-backgrounds-11.0.0-2.fc12
This one just had an extra newline in the sources file and I have
started new builds for f17 and f18. I push
Hi,
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 00:24 +, Matthias Clasen wrote:
Author: mclasen
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/gnome-desktop/F-13
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv10490
Modified Files:
gnome-desktop.spec sources
Log Message:
2.30.0
snip
# Make sure to update
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 10:29 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 09:51:53PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
The patents for the former expired but apparently some fonts look
worse with it so we decided to disable it.
(I have been running with it enabled for years and for me stuff
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 12:37 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi All,
A new libebml version (1.0.0) is coming to a rawhide near you. This
version properly bumps the soname as already should have been done
with the 0.8.0 release.
So all packages using libebml will need to be rebuild:
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 13:39 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 12:37 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
So summarizing:
libmatroska
mkvtoolnix
vlc-core
Need to be rebuild.
I'll be updating also libmatroska to 1.0.0 as soon as this build is
available and as it contains
On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 09:57 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
On 07/28/2010 01:08 AM, Mike McGrath wrote:
On 07/27/2010 10:53 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Are we skipping Firefox 4 for Fedora 14? Beta 2 has been released
recently and I am wondering if we can go with it if it fits into the
Hi all,
As some of you might know, we (the Fedora Design Team) would like to
have first wallpapers available in Alpha release. So I've prepared a
package with them (pretty much reusing spec file from previous releases)
which is now awaiting a review:
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 20:55 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
snip
Without the help of many others, this project would never have gotten
done. Folks helped out with Koji modifications, with fedpkg
contributions, with repeated testing of attempted conversions, with
logic checking of my plans, of
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 17:17 +0800, Chen Lei wrote:
2010/7/30 Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com:
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 20:55 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
snip
Without the help of many others, this project would never have gotten
done. Folks helped out with Koji modifications
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 11:20 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 17:17 +0800, Chen Lei wrote:
2010/7/30 Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com:
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 20:55 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
snip
Without the help of many others, this project would never have
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 09:49 +0100, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
Excellent news! Thanks for all the work.
One thing I've never got around to working out how to do in git which
is different from previous is dealing with branches. Where previously
it was as simple as changing directories to
On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 23:20 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 07:03 +0200, David Tardon wrote:
And while Thunderbird 3 was included due to the slow development pace of
the upstream (we used to have a very old Tb 2), Firefox 4 comes with at
least a killer feature,
On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 08:35:43 +0100
Kevin Kofler wrote:
PPS: Oh, and this:
The /usr/bin/soffice alias is still a problem since (in the Fedora
packages) it would conflict between LibreOffice and Apache
OpenOffice: it is recommended to fix it in the LibreOffice packages
too, at least using
On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 08:34:03 +0100
Kevin Kofler wrote:
I wrote:
Sandro Mani wrote:
Can't we simply re-organize the fedoraproject website in such way
that the download button points to something similar to the
current More options page, maybe with a small description for
each desktop
On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 06:36:23 +0100
Kevin Kofler wrote:
Eric Smith wrote:
On 01/28/2013 08:47 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
I think switching the desktop that has been our default for over 10
years and 18 releases requires just a bit more research and reason
than that. ~m
I don't
On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 14:31:11 +
James Hogarth wrote:
Might I suggest focusing on packaging 3.4.1 for rawhide and dealing
with the issues surrounding conflicts and if that gies well consider
the 4.0 release (or whatever lines up then) for F20?
That's mostly how I understand the proposal. The
On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 16:34:18 +0100
Jan Kratochvil wrote:
Still I believe it is probably true as I doubt Fedora QA tests
compatibility with old hosts.
Fedora QA AFAIK tests on their own hardware only + virtual machines. I
don't know about kernel upstream QA/devs though.
I'm running F18 on a
On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:53:20 -0800
Adam Williamson wrote:
You're a new Linux user, you go to our download page, and instead of a
simple big green Download button, it starts asking you questions about
what 'desktop environment' you want? What the hell is this crap?
Well, than with the current
On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:58:22 +0800
Mathieu Bridon wrote:
But your statement was even less backed by data. ;)
I was assuming the case of newcomers doing the switch by themselves,
coming from Windows (supposedly pre Win8), in rare cases from Mac OS X.
My data is generally known -- just look over
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 22:07:02 +
Debarshi Ray wrote:
So do we have multiple kernels in Fedora? We offer .deb variants of
Fedora?
Let me say one thing: if you're going by examples, go with proper ones.
There is vast difference of work needed to support two kernels and work
needed to support
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 20:50:11 +
Debarshi Ray wrote:
It is irrelevant whether it is a daemon or a GUI application.
No, it is not. To stay with pulseaudio -- when you're playing a song,
it's not exactly easy to tell if it goes to your headphones through
alsa, oss, openal, pulseaudio, or a
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 20:45:30 +0100
Stijn Hoop wrote:
But I will keep objecting to the single-sided argument that there is
no GNOME 2 user that likes GNOME 3. I fully support those who have
tried and rejected the new stuff -- as long as they don't impose their
opinion on me :-)
I don't think
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 01:37:03 +0100
drago01 wrote:
I can't recall that many stability bugs getting reported against GNOME
3.0 ... so [citation needed].
Well the fallback mode being a poor man's excuse was partly the case why
the people couldn't stay with gnome. Loads of features weren't
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 18:21:00 -0700
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Could we move this to a gnome/desktop list?
The subject of the thread has been decided...
I don't think it's providing much value to the Fedora devel community
anymore.
Ah, yes, my apologies. I would rather end this off topic
Hi Kevin,
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 11:09:15 +0100
Kevin Kofler wrote:
There are several factors which bias this poll:
* GNOME 3 is the default in Fedora, so of course more Fedora users
will be using it, merely due to the fact that it is the default.
* Some people actually left Fedora over GNOME
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:31:42 -0800
Adam Williamson wrote:
Kevin, you work on a desktop which sufficiently represents your
views. I think we're all aware that if we want fifteen thousand
settings in the control panel, we can run KDE. Do you really believe
you're going to convince the GNOME
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:13:08 -0800
Adam Williamson wrote:
On 09/02/13 01:03 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Last I checked, GDM also hid that feature so well that many users
missed it. In fact, unless this changed recently, when you input
your user name, the option is NOT shown, it only appears
Hi all,
WRT subject: before I go to file a bug report I want to make sure I'm
not exploiting something unsupported in rpmbuild.
In a couple of rpms (for which we're also upstream and I'm managing
them, so it's fairly easy for me to workaround the issue) I have
license saved in file with space,
On 02/16/2013 01:21 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
I've seen Panu commenting on it before, so I've searched a bit:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-January/176565.html
Thanks, I didn't read the whole thread back then :-/
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:06:44 +0200
Panu Matilainen
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 02:31:24 -0800
Dan Mashal wrote:
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Heiko Adams heiko.ad...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
I'd request to remove the echo-icon-theme package from Fedora for
several reasons:
- it's missing support for xdg folders
- there's no noteable
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 02:49:25 -0800
Dan Mashal wrote:
It'd probably be in your best interest to close any 4+ year old trac
tickets and reply to whatever bugs you have open then.
Good suggestion. It needs some cleaning, even though most of the bugs
are tracking RFEs created by me back in the day
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:53:18 +0100
Heiko Adams wrote:
Am 24.02.2013 11:47, schrieb Martin Sourada:
If that makes you happy, Heiko, it wouldn't be much of a problem
for me to add a couple of symlinks to work-around the issue with
xdg-folders. I don't see a terrible need for them
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:19:43 +0100
Bill Nottingham wrote:
snip
Removing: notification-daemon
clementine requires notification-daemon = 0.7.6-2.fc19
gnome-session requires notification-daemon = 0.7.6-2.fc19
guake requires notification-daemon = 0.7.6-2.fc19
Hi,
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 10:58:22 +0200
Xavier Bachelot wrote:
Hi,
On 01/05/2012 08:56 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
The following packages currently depend on xine-lib:
* gxine
* (k9copy – already in RPM Fusion, not affected)
* kaffeine (my package, the reason why I maintain xine-lib in
V Mon, 13 Apr 2015 21:20:49 +0100
Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com napsáno:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 02:17:14PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 17:49:45 +0100,
Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
Anyway, here is the BZ:
Hi,
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 17:06:20 +0800
Suse Shi wrote:
thanks,
I tried to build pkgs manually,
yes the desktop-background may not be a must option for EL, (I think we
can just safely ignore it when hit dep. warning.)
I compiled the package into 4 RPMs, just install the
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