Re: The semiannual "Transaction failed: Signature verification failed." exercise

2024-02-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 06:03:59PM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > That won't do it. We need mock to update it's config at exactly the same > moment a successfull rawhide compose completes and mirrors to whatever > mirror you are hitting. ;( > > We make keys a year ahead now. The f42 key is in fedora

The semiannual "Transaction failed: Signature verification failed." exercise

2024-02-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
It's this time of the year again: Running transaction Importing PGP key 0xA15B79CC: Userid : "Fedora (40) " Fingerprint: 115DF9AEF857853EE8445D0A0727707EA15B79CC From : file:///usr/share/distribution-gpg-keys/fedora/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-40-primary The key was successfully imported. Imp

Re: Package review ticket status change after approval

2024-02-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 06:47:21PM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > That said, I'd like to make a request and maybe make all reviewers aware > of a feature which was implemented some time ago. I've noticed many > reviewers change the ticket status from ASSIGNED to POST when they flag > the

Re: Introduction

2024-02-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Feb 04, 2024 at 11:07:43PM +, Luis Correia wrote: > Hi, I'm a long time Fedora user and used to help develop the Ralink > Wireless driver (rt2x00) that's been present in the kernel for a long time. > > I'm now entering the process of helping maintain the mixxx package over at > rpmfusi

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Feb 04, 2024 at 03:55:42AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > I can, though, speak for myself, and I am frankly surprised that you are > offended by the tone of my messages. Kevin, thank you for the way you're participating in this thread. Your civil tone and patience and writing abou

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Feb 05, 2024 at 10:34:13AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: > > And even before that, things were already only limping along. That was > > happening for over a decade and in that timeframe *nobody* has wanted > > to step up and work on it. Wayland is the future because otherwise we > > have no

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-01 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Feb 01, 2024 at 07:51:59AM +, Neal Gompa wrote: [snip] > My position as the KDE SIG lead based on discussions within the SIG is > that re-introducing these packages in the main distribution would > destroy the main point of our efforts: driving KDE Plasma Wayland to > be the best and mo

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-01 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 09:27:52PM -, Alessandro Astone wrote: > I can support that. > > But am I supposed to ignore the fact that kkofler is already bullying the KDE > SIG into not breaking that one other package they maintain that occasionally > breaks on kde updates? See example: > https

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-01-31 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 08:45:37AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > One additional point I forgot to address: the initial concern was that > the KDE SIG would be implicitly responsible for maintaining these > packages if they are included in the main repository. From a purely > technical perspecti

Re: Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-01-31 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 01:48:08PM -0800, kevin wrote: > If Adam's summary is understood by all the involved parties, then I > don't think there would be a problem allowing the packages in. > Everyone involved should just try and not place undue burdens on others. > If there's a flood of reports or

Re: Mounting USB Storage devices with "sync" option ?

2024-01-31 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 06:43:00AM -, Abyss Ether via devel wrote: > I created a simple PoC udev rule to mount USB Storage devices with the "sync > option. > Available here : > https://github.com/larina3315/personal-stuff/blob/main/linux/10-usb-storage.rules > > Currently, USB Storage device

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-01-29)

2024-01-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Logs and minutes: https://zbyszek.fedorapeople.org/fesco-2024-01-29.2024-01-29-19.30.log.html https://zbyszek.fedorapeople.org/fesco-2024-01-29.2024-01-29-19.30.log.txt https://zbyszek.fedorapeople.org/fesco-2024-01-29.2024-01-29-19.30.minutes.html https://zbyszek.fedorapeople.org/fesco-2024-01-29.

Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2024-01-29)

2024-01-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Monday at 19:30 UTC in #meeting:fedoraproject.org on Matrix. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2024-01-29 19:30 UTC' Links to all issues to be d

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2024-01-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 02:48:19PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 03:25:02PM +0100, Sandro wrote: > > On 24-01-2024 17:38, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > Dear maintainers. > > > > > > Based on the current fail to bui

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2024-01-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 05:38:59PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > infinipath-psm honli I think this project should be retired. The upstream repo has been archives with a message that Intel no longer supports this project. I'll rebuild mpich without this dependency. Zbyszek --

Re: Self Introduction: Neftali Yagua

2024-01-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 04:26:50AM +, Neftalí Yagua wrote: > Dear Community! > > My name is Neftalí Yagua, a Software Engineer from Venezuela since 2004, > I'm worked with Linux since 1997, my beginnings with RHEL have been with > RedHat, but I have been using Fedora for about 10 years, and I

Re: Self Introduction: Jacek Migacz

2024-01-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 08:46:08PM +0100, Jacek Migacz wrote: > Dear Community! > > My name is Jacek Migacz; a software engineer from Poland. > I'm currently maintaining curl and emacs on Red Hat Enterprise Linux. > I am eager to learn from the collective wisdom of the community and > contribute i

Re: Staled PRs at https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/

2024-01-25 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 08:07:03AM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > During my work on SPDX migration I filed hundreds of pull request and as > part of that work I always check if there is already open PRs for a package. > > It surprised me how many packages has open PR. I understand when there is >

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2024-01-25 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 03:25:02PM +0100, Sandro wrote: > On 24-01-2024 17:38, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Dear maintainers. > > > > Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following > > packages > > should be retired from Fedora 40 approximately one week before branching. > > >

Re: Lost KDC for FEDORAPROJECT.ORG realm

2024-01-23 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:08:45AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote: > Hello, > > I had to change my /etc/krb5.conf do to > some realm changes... and now when I > to a kinit to FEDORAPROJECT.ORG it > hangs for a while then errors with > > kinit: Cannot contact any KDC for realm 'FEDORAPROJECT.ORG' whi

Re: Mass change of LicenseRef-KDE-Accepted-* licenses

2024-01-23 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:52:16AM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > KDE project uses LicenseRef-KDE-Accepted-* licenses. This was discussed > > here and here. The consensus is that upstream license > > LicenseRef-KDE-Accepted-GPL should be replaced in Fedora by GPL-2.0-only OR > > GPL-3.0-only. And

Re: Proposal: Eliminate buildroot overrides

2024-01-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 07:39:52PM +0100, blinxen wrote: > > I am unaware of any remaining use cases for buildroot overrides that are > not covered by side tags > > One use case that I sometimes encounter is requiring a newer version for a > dependency, > that is submitted to Bodhi with a side-tag

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 Change Proposal: Unify /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (System-Wide)

2024-01-09 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 03:51:26PM +0100, Sjoerd Mullender wrote: > On 08/01/2024 14.41, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 10:02:55AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 7:54 PM Aoife Moloney > > > > wrote: &

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 Change Proposal: Unify /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (System-Wide)

2024-01-09 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 02:34:05PM +0100, Petr Pisar wrote: > V Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 09:42:41PM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > napsal(a): > > On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 03:26:45PM +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 1:37 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejews

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 Change Proposal: Unify /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (System-Wide)

2024-01-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 03:26:45PM +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 1:37 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jan 07, 2024 at 03:47:25PM +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 7:54 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: &g

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 Change Proposal: Unify /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (System-Wide)

2024-01-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Jan 07, 2024 at 04:58:23AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Aoife Moloney wrote: > >> == Summary == > >> The `/usr/sbin` directory becomes a symlink to `bin`, which means > >> paths like `/usr/bin/foo` and `/usr/sbin/foo` point to the same place. > >>

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 Change Proposal: Unify /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (System-Wide)

2024-01-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 10:02:55AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 7:54 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > > > > Wiki -> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Unify_bin_and_sbin > > > > > I agree unifying the *programs* to a single directory makes sense. But I > fail to se

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 Change Proposal: Unify /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (System-Wide)

2024-01-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Jan 07, 2024 at 03:47:25PM +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 7:54 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > > Wiki -> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Unify_bin_and_sbin > > > > I do not see as part of the plan a process to > go through all Fedora packages and identifying

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 Change Proposal: Unify /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (System-Wide)

2024-01-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 08:14:49AM +0100, Petr Pisar wrote: > V Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:20:11AM +0100, Vít Ondruch napsal(a): > > > > Dne 20. 12. 23 v 20:53 Aoife Moloney napsal(a): > > > ** Adjust `%_sbindir` in `/usr/lib/rpm/macros` (part of `rpm` > > > package). Packages will be updated automat

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 Change Proposal: Unify /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (System-Wide)

2024-01-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 06:15:13PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 06:58:37PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Aoife Moloney: > > > > > == Detailed Description == > > > The split between `/bin` and `/sbin` is not useful, and also unused. > > > > Programs in /usr/bin h

Re: Planning to update to podofo-0.10.1 + review request for podofo-compat for legacy 0.9.x library

2024-01-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jan 05, 2024 at 05:17:32PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Fri, Jan 05, 2024 at 06:13:58PM +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: > > > > On 05.01.24 17:57, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 04:44:36PM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzej

Re: Planning to update to podofo-0.10.1 + review request for podofo-compat for legacy 0.9.x library

2024-01-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jan 05, 2024 at 06:13:58PM +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: > > On 05.01.24 17:57, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 04:44:36PM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 11:56:56PM +0200, Sandro M

Re: Planning to update to podofo-0.10.1 + review request for podofo-compat for legacy 0.9.x library

2024-01-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 04:44:36PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 11:56:56PM +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: > > Hi > > > > I'm planning to update to podofo-0.10.1 in rawhide. I did a series of test > > builds here [1], according to w

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 Architecture (System-Wide)

2024-01-03 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Dec 30, 2023 at 08:27:46AM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Il 28/12/23 18:25, Robert Marcano via devel ha scritto: > > On 12/28/23 12:58 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > >> Once upon a time, Aoife Moloney said: > >>> Systemd will be modified to insert the additional directories into the > >

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 Architecture (System-Wide)

2024-01-02 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 03:20:45PM -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said: > > But building packages is just one thing. Those packages would need > > to be distributed, causing additional load on mirrors and archives. > > Our mirrors

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 Architecture (System-Wide)

2023-12-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 12:23:23PM -, Jonny Heggheim wrote: > How much waste is it to recompile all the packages? > > The whole proposal sounds like a big hack from beginning to the end. > Fragile setup with $PATH, complicated SPEC files, complicate the %build part. I disagree that the setup

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 Architecture (System-Wide)

2023-12-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 05:07:09PM +, Barry Scott wrote: > > > > On 28 Dec 2023, at 16:58, Chris Adams wrote: > > > > Anything that depends on PATH entries is IMHO doomed to failure. > > There are way too many things that explicitly set PATH to "known" > > values (for good and bad reasons)

Re: Planning to update to podofo-0.10.1 + review request for podofo-compat for legacy 0.9.x library

2023-12-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 11:56:56PM +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: > Hi > > I'm planning to update to podofo-0.10.1 in rawhide. I did a series of test > builds here [1], according to which scribus, vfrnav and pdfsign currently do > not support podofo-0.10.x. To keep these functional, I've prepared a > p

Re: Building the boot.iso with dnf5

2023-12-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Dec 09, 2023 at 07:04:03PM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 09. 12. 23 v 12:57 Peter Robinson napsal(a): > > It was my understanding the switch to dnf5 was delayed until F-41 so I > > don't think we should be using it for this either until it's the > > default in Fedora as well. > > It w

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 12:53:00PM -0500, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > We could just have an /etc tree like we see now but in /usr/share/etc > > > (or /usr/etc, but then I get IRIX nightmares) and your local overrides > > > exist in /etc. Things like fstab will probably just have to always be > >

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 09:09:33AM -0500, David Both wrote: > > I think I understand the immediate goal here, but I am still confused. > What is the objective of achieving this "boot with empty /etc"? What > does it accomplish? What problem does it solve? Is it a solution for a > small use case su

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-11 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 09:58:04AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > > >> No, it would be the other way round. We might have a > >> /usr/share/glibc/services which contains :include: /etc/services > >> somewhere in it. > >

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-09 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 07:25:08PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > > > On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:23:08PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> * Stephen Gallagher: > >> > >> > That being said, there are files like /etc/n

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-09 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 12:14:09PM -0500, Steve Grubb wrote: > On Friday, December 8, 2023 11:57:55 AM EST Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2023-12-08 at 11:49 -0500, Steve Grubb wrote: > > > On Friday, December 8, 2023 11:23:29 AM EST Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > >

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-09 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
I'm not entirely sure if you're just doing Friday trolling or if you're serious. I'll reply for real, apologies if this was meant as a joke. On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 12:59:22PM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek writes: > > There is a long-term

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 08:20:25PM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > Lennart Poettering writes: > > That said, I would certainly enjoy more if glibc would natively > > fallback to /usr/lib/glibc/nsswitch.conf or something like that if > > /etc/nsswitch.conf does not exist. > > glibc has an internal defa

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:23:08PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Stephen Gallagher: > > > That being said, there are files like /etc/nsswitch.conf, /etc/pam.d/* > > and /etc/fstab which are both API *and* sometimes see manual updates. > > These are some of the cases that are going to make getti

Re: goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 10:25:34AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 9:58 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > There is a long-term goal of moving packaged files out of /etc, so that > > only actual local configur

goal: booting with an empty /etc

2023-12-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Hi, There is a long-term goal of moving packaged files out of /etc, so that only actual local configuration remains in /etc. This has some advantages: - Local configuration, i.e. the result of local administrative actions, is nicely split from static configuration that is part of package payloa

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-12-07)

2023-12-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-12-07/fesco.2023-12-07-17.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-12-07/fesco.2023-12-07-17.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-12-07/fesco.2023-12-07-17.00.lo

Schedule for Thursday's FESCo Meeting (2023-07-7)

2023-12-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Thursday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-2 on irc.libera.chat. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2023-12-07 17:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be

Re: Live usb stuck at grub

2023-12-02 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 09:16:31PM -, Ryan Bach via devel wrote: > https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/Workstation/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-Rawhide-20231201.n.0.iso > > This is a bug no? It has been that way for quite some time now. With no detai

Re: Proven to be sickened

2023-12-02 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 03:41:54PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: [snip] > If there isn't anything wrong with the work of the other maintainer, > then I guess I don't understand. They did something in an honest > attempt to save you the trouble and because of unfortunate timing they > didn't a

Schedule for Thursday's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-30)

2023-11-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Thursday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-2 on irc.libera.chat. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2023-11-30 17:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be

Re: Packaging guidelines - dynamic allocation of users and groups

2023-11-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 07:38:25PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 7:26 PM Michal Schorm wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 12:54 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > Yeah, there are no guidelines for this case because it didn&#x

Re: Packaging guidelines - dynamic allocation of users and groups

2023-11-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 08:04:11PM +0100, Michal Schorm wrote: > I maintain the packages 'mariadb' and 'community-mysql'. > Sub-packages of each of them need the user 'mysql' to be present prior > installation. > Both manually create the user in the %pre section. > > I found out a different system

Re: packaging of nix

2023-11-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 04:25:57AM -, Pratham Patel wrote: > Hi! > > At the moment, it's not possible to build a NixOS image that adheres to FHS. > Therefore, we can either > > 1. Add the FHS support to NixOS, which makes the whole thing about using > NixOS moot. BUT, maybe we can hack our

Re: packaging of nix

2023-11-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Thank you all for the replies and interest. It'd be great to have many co-maintainers. I think the best (only?) way to do this is to add people after the package has gone through review and been approved. On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 07:58:18AM +, Piotr Szubiakowski wrote: > Hey! > > I would be

packaging of nix

2023-11-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Hi! I'm looking for co-maintainers for nix. We had a plan to add support for nix to mkosi, but it has been put on ice (*), so my main motivation and use-case went away. But I prepared a package for nix, i.e. the big binary that is used to build and manage NixOS systems (**). The compilation and p

Re: Possible deprecation/removal of Initial Setup from Fedora

2023-11-23 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 01:53:14PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 08:07:06AM -0800, Davide Cavalca wrote: > > On 2023-11-21 04:34, Jiri Konecny wrote: > > > Is Anaconda Initial Setup important for your project or workflow? What > > > functionality is absolutely necessary for

Re: Groff: Revert the mapping of special characters for UTF-8 devices introduced in 1.23.0 version

2023-11-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 02:52:23PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 23:41 +0100, Lukas Javorsky wrote: > > > > > > I think an upstream only wants to adhere to the language specification > > > (groff_char(7)). These small differences became prominent with the advent > > > of >

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-16)

2023-11-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
#info This meeting is cancelled because of lack of quorum. #info Next meeting will be in two weeks (because of Thanksgiving in U.S.) #action zbyszek will chair the next meeting Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-11-16/fesco.2023-11-16-17.00.html Minutes (text): http

Schedule for Thursday's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-16)

2023-11-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Thursday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-2 on irc.libera.chat. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2023-11-16 17:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-09)

2023-11-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 01:28:31AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Neal Gompa wrote: > > * AGREED: Fedora explicitly declines to support the LSB 5.0 or > > earlier. Packagers will remove any information that implies > > otherwise. No implementation of an LSB package may expressly state > > o

Re: /usr/bin/pterm conflicts

2023-11-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 08:05:13AM -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote: > prrte 3.0 introduces /usr/bin/pterm which conflicts with putty. Issues: > > https://github.com/openpmix/prrte/issues/1836 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2247407 > > If anyone has any constructive comments, it would

Re: Groff: Revert the mapping of special characters for UTF-8 devices introduced in 1.23.0 version

2023-11-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 12:36:19PM +0100, Lukas Javorsky wrote: > we've decided to align with the Debian decision and revert this change I read the article on LWN and parts of the Debian discussion, and I think this is the right decision. Zbyszek ___ de

Re: goffice-0.10.46 no longer builds on i686

2023-11-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Nov 04, 2023 at 05:01:15PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Sat, Nov 04, 2023 at 03:38:55PM +0100, Julian Sikorski wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I tried to update goffice to 0.10.46 and gnumeric to 1.12.46 today. > > After pushing the changes, it turned out that it no longer builds on > >

Re: DNF5: Checking signatures of packages installed out of a repository?

2023-11-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 09:58:10AM -0400, Christopher wrote: > On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 5:39 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 10:49:36AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 11:05:33AM -0400, Christopher wrote: &

Re: DNF5: Checking signatures of packages installed out of a repository?

2023-11-01 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 10:49:36AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 11:05:33AM -0400, Christopher wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 7:50 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > > FWIW, from what I can recall, yum used to check all packages, but this > > > resulted in tons of people com

Re: Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #3

2023-10-25 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 04:55:57PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > 6. distribution - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242759 - NEW: anyone at > all to come up with a genius fix, otherwise we'll likely have to > document this Happy to oblige ;--] Zbyszek ___

Re: Canceled: FESCo Meeting (2023-10-12)

2023-10-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 03:04:44PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Thu, Oct 12, 2023, 14:58 Major Hayden wrote: > > > Hello there, > > > > I'm not able to find any items in the FESCo Pagure queue that need > > discussion today, so I'll cancel this week's meeting and we can regroup > > next wee

Re: 16 packages still need a Python 3.12 rebuild, final freeze in 6 days

2023-09-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 11:56:01AM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Hello packagers, > here is the list of packages that still need a Python 3.12 rebuild for Fedora > 39+. > zbyszekpython-igor I retired it now in f39 and rawhide. The first attempt failed halfway because I didn't have a valid tok

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-09-21)

2023-09-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 02:21:38PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 12:55 PM Ian McInerney via devel > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 7:50 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > >> > >> Minutes:

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

2023-09-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 10:43:05AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2233281#c3 > > This probably answers my question. So heads up to others. > > Dne 22. 09. 23 v 10:39 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): > > Was this implemented in past days? I am asking because this FTB

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-09-21)

2023-09-21 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-09-21/fesco.2023-09-21-17.03.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-09-21/fesco.2023-09-21-17.03.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-09-21/fesco.2

Schedule for Thursday's FESCo Meeting (2023-09-21)

2023-09-21 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Note: this announcement is very late, I know. But we didn't assign any chair for this meeting, so setting of the agenda slipped through the cracks. Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Thursday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-2 on irc.libera.chat. To convert

Re: Potential changes to systemd RPM macros

2023-09-11 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 08:34:59AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 06:06:45AM -0400, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 07:15:42AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > > %systemd_postun_wi

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F38 to F39

2023-09-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
I'm getting: Transaction failed: Rpm transaction failed. - file /usr/lib64/libnode.so.115 from install of nodejs-libs-1:20.5.1-1.fc39.x86_64 conflicts with file from package nodejs20-libs-1:20.5.1-1.fc38.x86_64 - file /usr/bin/node-20 from install of nodejs-1:20.5.1-1.fc39.x86_64 conflicts

question about dnf5 upgrade output

2023-09-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
I'm testing the upgrade to F39, and I see the following: Installing group/module packages: tlwg-waree-fontsnoarch 0.7.3-9.fc39 fedora 250.3 KiB replacing thai-scalable-fonts-common noarch 0.7.3-5.fc38 18.6 KiB replacing thai-scalable-waree-fonts noarch

Re: PDC replacement proposal

2023-09-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Sep 04, 2023 at 04:51:22PM +0200, Tomas Hrcka wrote: > Hello all, it took us a few years but we are finally getting rid of the PDC > project. Thanks to the ARC research we identified use cases in our tooling > and proposed solution. > > The essential functionalities currently provided by P

Re: SPDX Statistics - Passenger pigeon edition

2023-09-02 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Sep 02, 2023 at 02:39:14AM -0700, Tom Stellard wrote: > Hi, > > What does this message mean: > > "python-lit warning: valid as old and new and no changelong entry, please > check" The License string is valid as both the old-style Fedora license and a SPDX expression, and the tooling did

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-08-24)

2023-08-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-08-24/fesco.2023-08-24-17.04.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-08-24/fesco.2023-08-24-17.04.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-08-24/fesco.2023-08-24-17.04.lo

F40 Change Proposal: Restructure Kubernetes Packages

2023-08-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
== Summary == New or revised (sub)package names are proposed for Kubernetes packages in Fedora. The new names will better align Kubernetes with current usage as documented upstream and improve alignment of package content with current Fedora practices and standards. See https://discussion.fedorap

F40 Change Proposal: SQLAlchemy 2

2023-08-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
== Summary == The python-sqlalchemy package is upgraded to major version 2. A compatibility package python-sqlalchemy1.4 is added to the distribution to cater for software which doesn’t yet use the new API, this can be installed side-by-side. Other packages using SQLAlchemy are identified and, if n

Schedule for Thursday's FESCo Meeting (2023-08-24)

2023-08-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Thursday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-2 on irc.libera.chat. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2023-08-24 17:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be

Non-Schedule for Thursday's FESCo Meeting (2023-08-17)

2023-08-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
There is nothing with the 'meeting' tag, so I'm cancelling the meeting. I'll chair the next meeting. = Discussed and Voted in the Ticket = #3038 New (clarified) voting rules for FESCo https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3038 APPROVED (+7,0,0) The new text is here: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3038#com

mkosi v15

2023-08-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Hi, we've released mkosi 15 (and 15.1 a few hours later ;)) and 15.1 has been built in F39 and rawhide. It is a major rewrite of the codebase, so various regressions and problems are likely. Please report packaging issues in bugzilla, and all other things upstream on github. Zbyszek

Re: Potential changes to systemd RPM macros

2023-08-09 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 06:06:45AM -0400, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 07:15:42AM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > %systemd_postun_with_restart, so adding %systemd_postun_with_reload > > > or something along those lines doesn&

Re: How to: correctly use sysusers.d?

2023-08-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 10:56:19PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > I have a draft sysusers.d config file here: > https://github.com/decathorpe/ntpd-rs-rpms/blob/main/ntpd-rs/ntpd-rs.sysusers > > This looks similar to existing files in /usr/lib/sysusers.d/, but the > %sysusers_create_compat scriptl

Re: zlib-ng as a compat replacement for zlib

2023-08-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 04:45:36PM +0100, Neal Gompa wrote: > I think it'd be worth us moving to zlib-ng as the sole zlib provider. +1. zlib-ng is already widely used, so if it has issues, then we'd have a major problem. So we're not really saving much by having two implementations. One library is

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

2023-07-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 02:24:46PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > jblas zbyszek > xml-maven-plugin mbooth, mizdebsk I built those two now. Zbyszek ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedorapro

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

2023-07-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 05:39:20PM +0900, Mamoru TASAKA wrote: > > nom-tam-fits  gil, lupinix, zbyszek Thanks! > > telepathy-qt  jgrulich, jreznik, kde-sig, > > rdieter > > Rescued these 2 packages (fixed FTBFS). > Regards, > Mamoru __

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

2023-07-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 11:44:09AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 06:45:41PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Should I open a releng ticket to include this package in the next mass > > rebuild? > > I suppose we could rebuild it, I don't think that would matter any? > Or would i

Re: Fedora 39 Mass Rebuild

2023-07-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 06:51:36PM +0800, Jens-Ulrik Petersen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 5:56 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < > zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > > > I submitted > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3043 Change: Migrate NetworkManager ifcfg > &

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-07-27)

2023-07-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 09:10:36AM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: > V Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 11:03:46AM -0700, Tom Stellard napsal(a): > > * #3039 RFC: Roadmap for DNF5 in Fedora 39 / invoking the Contingency > > Mechanism (tstellar, 17:04:33) > > * AGREED: APPROVED(+7,0,-0) The switch to DNF5 will be

Re: Macros in side-tag

2023-07-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 04:19:05PM +0200, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > > > Am 26.07.23 um 13:46 schrieb Vít Ondruch: > > > I think that Perl folks are using something aka %perl_bootstrap. Not > > sure if this is just for historic reasons and they could eventually > > migrate to regular bootstrap meth

Re: Flock CFP: Language SIGs discussion

2023-07-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 01:39:47PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 8:23 AM Jens-Ulrik Petersen > wrote: > > > > I have submitted a Flock proposal to have a common discussion session for > > (modern) Language SIGs. I think for this to be successful we need > > representati

Re: Macros in side-tag

2023-07-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 03:45:32PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 26. 07. 23 v 13:13 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 12:30:00PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Koji has grown new functionali

Re: Macros in side-tag

2023-07-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 12:30:00PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Hi, > > Koji has grown new functionality to enable setting macros in side-tag: > > https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11254 > > I have asked FeSCo to approve to use them: > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3046 > > My immediate use case

Re: Fedora 39 Mass Rebuild

2023-07-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 05:24:20PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 3:58 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > > As far as I can tell, the toolchain proposal was announced on the devel / > > devel-announce lists on July 7 but never submitted to FESCo for a vote. > > Looks like the pr

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