Re: Guidance on individual packages requiring x86_64-v2 baseline ?

2024-06-19 Thread drago01
On Wednesday, June 19, 2024, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > On Wednesday, 19 June 2024 at 10:39, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 9:29 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > > wrote: > > > > > > On 19/06/2024 09:13, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > > If Fedor

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Pytorch Release (Self-Contained)

2024-01-11 Thread drago01
On Thursday, January 11, 2024, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > == Benefit to Fedora == > > This change will introduce PyTorch, a high demand machine learning > framework, to Fedora. PyTorch is widely used for tasks such as image > and speech recognition, natural language processing, and other > artifici

Re: Restricting automounting of uncommon filesystems?

2023-07-22 Thread drago01
On Saturday, July 22, 2023, Matthew Garrett wrote: > A discussion within Debian again brought up the problem that: > > 1) Automounting of removable media exposes the kernel to a lot of > untrusted input > 2) Kernel upstream are not terribly concerned with ensuring that kernel > filesystems are re

Re: Proposal: drop delta rpms (for real this time)

2023-02-24 Thread drago01
On Wednesday, February 22, 2023, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 06:18:23AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 3:48 PM Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > > > > I was asked to weigh in on https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7215 as a > > > priority. Last time we talked about

Re: Looking for advice - ffmpeg-free and wf-recorder

2022-12-18 Thread drago01
On Sunday, December 18, 2022, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 18/12/2022 06:18, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > >> Could Fedora ship a shim library that exposed the same API and used >> dlopen() internally? >> > > I doubt. Lawyers will treat this as a patents viol

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

2022-12-12 Thread drago01
On Monday, December 12, 2022, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 11/12/2022 20:53, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> There's a PR at >> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/linux-firmware/pull-request/9 , and >> Intel folks seem receptive to the idea of removing at leas

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

2022-12-09 Thread drago01
On Friday, December 9, 2022, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2022-12-09 at 12:04 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Richard W. M. Jones: > > > > > You only need network / wifi firmware blobs (although I'm sure they > > > are in themselves large) and then you can fetch anything else needed > > >

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

2022-12-08 Thread drago01
On Thursday, December 8, 2022, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Daniel P. Berrangé said: > > On Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 07:59:20PM +0100, drago01 wrote: > > > That would be very crazy, as you will have a degraded user experience > > > (laggy UI, wrong resolutio

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

2022-12-08 Thread drago01
On Thursday, December 8, 2022, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 07:59:20PM +0100, drago01 wrote: > > On Thursday, December 8, 2022, Adam Williamson < > adamw...@fedoraproject.org> > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2022-12-

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

2022-12-08 Thread drago01
On Thursday, December 8, 2022, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2022-12-08 at 12:58 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > I've done a few passes, dropping a bunch of older firmware upstream > > that are no longer supported in any stable kernel release, also a > > bunch of de-dupe and linking of fi

Re: Capstone (was: Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers)

2022-10-10 Thread drago01
On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 11:11 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 10:31:24AM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > capstone orphan, rebus, ret2libc 1 weeks > > ago > > [Affecting lots of packages] > > This is a disassembly library / framework used b

Re: OpenSSL and ECC patents (was Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1)

2022-09-29 Thread drago01
On Wednesday, September 28, 2022, Clemens Lang wrote: > Hi, > > Michael J Gruber wrote: > > Understanding is helped greatly by communication, though. Legal answers >> such as "We can not" do not further this understanding, and "We can not >> and we can not tell you why" is not much better, but t

Re: F37 proposal: Add -fno-omit-frame-pointer to default compilation flags (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-07-10 Thread drago01
On Sunday, July 10, 2022, Kevin Kofler via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > drago01 wrote: > > > On Sunday, July 10, 2022, Kevin Kofler via devel < > > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > >> drago01 wrote: > >> &

Re: F37 proposal: Add -fno-omit-frame-pointer to default compilation flags (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-07-10 Thread drago01
On Sunday, July 10, 2022, Kevin Kofler via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > drago01 wrote: > > One thing which seems to be completely missing in the conversation is how > > this affects battery life. Having lower performance, means the CPU has to > > do

Re: F37 proposal: Add -fno-omit-frame-pointer to default compilation flags (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-07-10 Thread drago01
One thing which seems to be completely missing in the conversation is how this affects battery life. Having lower performance, means the CPU has to do more work / be in a higher power state for a longer time frame. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fe

Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-28 Thread drago01
On Friday, May 27, 2022, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 26/05/2022 19:31, drago01 wrote: > >> But bundled libs and properly tested / certified vs dynamic linking and >> less testing / no certification. >> > > Bundled li

Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-26 Thread drago01
On Thursday, May 26, 2022, Ian Pilcher wrote: > On 5/26/22 10:40, drago01 wrote: > >> Why would we do that? Is the build process really more important than >> shipping tested software? >> > > For Fedora? Yes. > > Fedora includes lots of untested (in the fo

Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-26 Thread drago01
On Thursday, May 26, 2022, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > On 5/26/22 11:06, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > >> 2. Are there ways that a non-TCK compliant version could be distributed? >> > > I would suggest phrasing that slightly differently: the version being > distributed could very well be fully compliant

Re: Fedora minimum hardware requirements

2021-10-17 Thread drago01
On Monday, October 18, 2021, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > Is it worth paying hundreds of MBytes of installer space, and the new > 2 GB minimum RAM to simply install Fedora? I'm not saying "discard > anaconda". I'm saying "be aware of some very real reasons the > installer has gotten so huge". And k

Re: Fedora 34 90 second timeout in initrd / dbus ordering issue

2021-07-29 Thread drago01
On Thursday, July 29, 2021, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi Zbigniew, Justin, > > I assume you are familiar with $subject, also see e.g. : > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1976653 > > I have just come back from a week vacation and I see that this is > still not resolved, what is the curr

Re: SIMD-related package amd minimum supported instructions

2021-04-17 Thread drago01
On Friday, April 16, 2021, Robert-André Mauchin wrote: > Hello, > > I have a dependency that is a C++ library for SIMD (called highway). This > library requires SSE4 as its minimum required instruction set ("Supported > targets: SSE4, AVX2, AVX-512, NEON (ARMv7 and v8), WASM SIMD."). However > th

Re: F35 Change: "Fedora Linux" in /etc/os-release

2021-03-09 Thread drago01
On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Fedora_Linux_in_os-release > > == Summary == > > "Fedora" is the name of our project. Our general-purpose Linux > distribution is "Fedora Linux". Let's refer to it that way in the OS itself. > > == Owner == > >

Re: New memory tester application potentially to replace memtest86+: PCMemTest

2021-02-07 Thread drago01
On Sunday, February 7, 2021, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 2/7/21 10:07 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I discovered today that there's a new replacement for memtest86+ that >> appears to even have UEFI support called PCMemTest[0]. >> > > It can only be an alternative, not a replacement, s

Re: btrfs hash algorithm (should xxhash be the default?)

2021-02-01 Thread drago01
On Sunday, January 31, 2021, Matthew Miller wrote: > On my Intel i7 laptop, xxhash is a small but clear performance win over > crc32c: > > $ ./hash-speedtest 1000 > Block size: 4096 > Iterations: 1000 > Implementation: builtin > > NULL-NOP: cycles: 13725

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-08-28 Thread drago01
On Saturday, August 29, 2020, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Monday, August 10, 2020 9:52:42 AM MST Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 9:08 am, Michael Catanzaro > > wrote: > > > > > Zbigniew, do you agree that we should remove the script if and only > > > if it is generated by N

Re: Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal: Drop mod_php

2020-07-10 Thread drago01
On Saturday, July 11, 2020, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:43:59 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 9:38 PM John M. Harris Jr > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:31:08 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 9:26

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-07-10 Thread drago01
On Friday, July 10, 2020, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 26.06.2020 16:42, Ben Cotton wrote: > > ** transparent compression: significantly reduces write amplification, > > improves lifespan of storage hardware > > What can you say about this? https://arxiv.or

Re: Btrfs by default, the compression option

2020-07-09 Thread drago01
On Friday, July 10, 2020, Zachary Lym wrote: > > Yes, it's completely reasonable to not do it. It might seem like a big > > change on its own, but Btrfs has had native compression for 10+ years, > > and at least three years for most all of the workloads at Facebook. So > > it's quite safe. > > Bu

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread drago01
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, Justin Forbes wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:39 PM John M. Harris Jr > wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:22:00 AM MST Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 11:09, Michael Catanzaro > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 20

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-29 Thread drago01
On Monday, June 29, 2020, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Monday, June 29, 2020 9:26:09 AM MST Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 09:59:52AM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > > > > > We cannot include ZFS in Fedora for legal reasons. Additionally, ZFS > is > > > > not really intend

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-27 Thread drago01
On Saturday, June 27, 2020, Nicolas Mailhot via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Le samedi 27 juin 2020 à 10:47 +0200, Igor Raits a écrit : > > > > Do you run postgres, financial transactions and random blackouts on > > your laptop / workstation? If so, isn't it just for testing pur

Re: Has something changed with RPMS?

2020-06-01 Thread drago01
On Tuesday, June 2, 2020, Adam Williamson wrote: > On June 1, 2020 7:13:51 p.m. PDT, Richard Shaw > wrote: > >I've noticed lately when doing mock builds that it takes a lot longer > >to > >install all the dependencies. Especially large -devel packages with > >tons of > >small files (boost-devel,

Re: Proposal: Revise FESCo voting policy

2020-05-17 Thread drago01
On Thursday, May 14, 2020, Jared K. Smith wrote: > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 10:57 AM Kevin Kofler > wrote: > >> Abstaining means "I don't care", not "I feel uncomfortable with this >> change". >> > > I'm going to disagree with you here, specifically with regards to the "I > don't care" piece. Fr

Re: URGENT: users prompted to upgrade to F32

2020-02-16 Thread drago01
On Saturday, February 15, 2020, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 05:14:57PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-02-14 at 18:37 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Users are being prompted to upgrade to F32. Anyone who knows how to > fix > > > this, please

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-10 Thread drago01
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 8:25 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:09 AM Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > > > - facebook is working on making oomd something that just works for > > everyone, they are in the final rounds of canonicalizing the > > configuration so that it can just

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Enable fstrim.timer by default

2020-01-06 Thread drago01
On Monday, January 6, 2020, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 10:43 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableFSTrimTimer >> >> == Summary == >> Enabling fstrim.timer will cause fstrim.service to execute weekly, >> which in turn executes `/usr/sbin/fstrim

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-04 Thread drago01
On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 7:32 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 4:48 AM drago01 wrote: > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 4, 2020, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 2:33 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > >> w

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-04 Thread drago01
On Saturday, January 4, 2020, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 2:33 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > wrote: > > > > On 03.01.2020 22:27, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > and servers... > > > > Admins will be very happy when such user-space killer will kill for > > example PgSQL database server and

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-03 Thread drago01
On Friday, January 3, 2020, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:19 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableEarlyoom > > > > == Summary == > > Install earlyoom package, and enable it by default. This will cause > > the kernel oomkiller to trigger sooner,

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-07 Thread drago01
On Saturday, December 7, 2019, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 18:51 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > > After reading this thread I think this is a more serious problem than > just > > this package. I had "assumed" modules were just normal, so I didn't > > question them being installed

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Build Python 3 to statically link with libpython3.8.a for better performance

2019-11-09 Thread drago01
On Sunday, November 10, 2019, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: > > How is statically linked libpython hack? It's just a different way to do > > it, isn't it? > > It means you are shipping 2 copies of the Python interpreter, one > statically > linked into the python3 binary and one

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-16 Thread drago01
On Wednesday, October 16, 2019, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:05 AM John M. Harris Jr > wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 15, 2019 6:26:31 PM MST Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > given that we're talking about the need to migrate defaults > > > > To clarify, that has not b

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-09-10 Thread drago01
On Wednesday, September 11, 2019, John M. Harris Jr. wrote: > On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 12:41:14 PM MST Przemek Klosowski via devel > wrote: > > On 9/10/19 7:55 AM, vvs vvs wrote: > > > > > Did I? I thought that I've said that I'm using x86_64 kernel right now > and > > > that I have my memo

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: x86-64 micro-architecture update

2019-07-22 Thread drago01
On Monday, July 22, 2019, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/x86-64_micro-architecture_update > > == Summary == > Fedora currently uses the original K8 micro-architecture (without > 3DNow! and other AMD-specific parts) as the baseline for its > x86_64 architecture. This b

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Switch RPMs to zstd compression

2019-05-31 Thread drago01
On Thursday, May 30, 2019, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/30/19 1:56 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 8:40 AM Daniel Mach wrote: >> >>> >>> Dne 30. 05. 19 v 0:05 Neal Gompa napsal(a): >>> I'm pretty sure this would break DeltaRPMs, since none of the drpm software ha

Re: What does delaying F31 mean for packagers/users?

2018-11-27 Thread drago01
On Tuesday, November 27, 2018, Owen Taylor wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:51 AM Stephen Gallagher > wrote: > > As came up in another part of the earlier thread, I think this is an > > opportunity for Modularity. For those things like GNOME that want to > > rev mid-release, if they shipped t

Re: Proposal: delay F31 release to work out infrastructure and lifecycle challenges

2018-11-26 Thread drago01
On Monday, November 26, 2018, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 09:50:33AM -0500, Paul Frields wrote: > > Here's the summary from the page, which proposes we pause the release > > after F30 for these efforts: > > I know it was a big time-off holiday week in the US, but I expected a

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-14 Thread drago01
On Wednesday, November 14, 2018, Laura Abbott wrote: > On 11/14/18 5:29 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 12:32:14PM +0100, Adam Samalik wrote: >> >>> Do we have any user data about what "stability" means to users and on >>> what >>> different levels that can be achieved? Is

Re: Release criteria proposal: installing / removing software

2018-07-17 Thread drago01
On Wednesday, July 18, 2018, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 14:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> I instinctively like the non-split form here because, to me, it > >> emphasizes more clearly that "appropriately" applie

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

2018-06-14 Thread drago01
I simply forgot to vote this time - saw the announcement was busy with other things and then the elections where already over. Having a longer voting period would have helped but I am not sure if others simply missed it as well. ___ devel mailing list --

Re: Firefox "Looking Glass" fiasco

2017-12-22 Thread drago01
On Friday, December 22, 2017, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2017-12-22 at 07:01 -0500, Solomon Peachy wrote: > > > > Especially since Fedora's maintainers *already* compile it, including > > changing some of the defaults. What's a couple more? > > AIUI, Mozilla doesn't actually like downstrea

Re: Important: NSS + Firefox + Thunderbird + Seamonkey + Icecat + Xulrunner

2017-01-24 Thread drago01
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:44 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 01/21/2017 04:15 PM, Kai Engert wrote: >> On Sat, 2017-01-21 at 15:47 +0100, Christian Dersch wrote: > >> The current Firefox 50.x will go unsupported on Tuesday, replaced by Firefox >> 51. >> Usually new important security fixes are con

Re: Proposal: Rethink Fedora multilib support (Take Two!)

2017-01-06 Thread drago01
On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 01/06/2017 08:07 AM, drago01 wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Stephen Gallagher >> wrote: >>> On 01/06/2017 01:08 AM, drago01 wrote: >>>> >>>> Two suggestions were

Re: Proposal: Rethink Fedora multilib support (Take Two!)

2017-01-06 Thread drago01
On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 01/06/2017 01:08 AM, drago01 wrote: >> >> Two suggestions were raised as alternatives to the container approach: >> >> * Switch to using the Debian style of multi-arch layout, which instead of >

Re: Proposal: Rethink Fedora multilib support (Take Two!)

2017-01-05 Thread drago01
On Thursday, January 5, 2017, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 01/05/2017 11:03 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > # Overview > > > > For many years, Fedora has supported multilib by carrying > parallel-installable > > libraries in /usr/lib[64]. This was necessary for a very long time in > order to >

Re: Proposal: Rethink Fedora multilib support

2017-01-05 Thread drago01
On Thursday, January 5, 2017, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > # Overview > > For many years, Fedora has supported multilib by carrying > parallel-installable > libraries in /usr/lib[64]. This was necessary for a very long time in > order to > support 32-bit applications running on a 64-bit deployment.

Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

2016-12-09 Thread drago01
On Friday, December 9, 2016, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Dec 09, 2016 at 03:19:58PM -0500, langdon wrote: > > >Langdon is sitting right next to me right now and I'm going to tag him > > >in for more on Modularity. > [...] > > them. We can also decide when a "release" makes sense based on > >

Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

2016-12-08 Thread drago01
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 07:41:13PM +0100, drago01 wrote: >> Which problem are you trying to solve with those proposals? > > From my *other* other mail: > > * predictable calendar dates, to help with long-term planni

Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

2016-12-08 Thread drago01
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > Trying to make this idea a little more concrete. Here's two suggestions > for how it might work. These are strawman ideas -- please provide > alternates, poke holes, etc. And particularly from a QA and rel-eng > point of view. Both of these a

Re: Nautilus usability

2016-11-27 Thread drago01
On Monday, November 28, 2016, Py wrote: > > > > >>> Have you ever made Nautilus copy/move a huge directory tree and then > >>> started a similar task for other directories while Nautilus was > >still > >>> working on the first task? > >> > >> A directory containing 10,000 1MiB files moved to anot

Re: Plans for Node.js 6.x

2016-05-01 Thread drago01
On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 4:00 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > OK folks, it's Bad Decision Time. > > Today, Node.js 6.0 was released. This is a significant ABI-breaking release, > which means there is no guarantee that existing modules will work with it at > all.[1] > > Better still, Node.js 5.x is

Re: Firefox not working anymore over ssh?

2016-04-04 Thread drago01
On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Eric Griffith wrote: > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Michael Catanzaro > wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2016-04-04 at 14:19 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: >> > That seems to be a bit over-dramatic. gnome-initial-setup works fine. >> > The online accounts step will be affect

Re: Firefox not working anymore over ssh?

2016-04-03 Thread drago01
On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 23:14:14 +0200 > drago01 wrote: > >> No. This line does not tell you much. >> >> Easy way to check for DRi3 is to run "glxinfo|grep buffer_age" ... if >> you have to lines in

Re: Firefox not working anymore over ssh?

2016-04-02 Thread drago01
On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 09:20:00 +0200 > drago01 wrote: > >> This is not true. While the plan is to get stop using device specific >> ddx drivers >> you do not need modesetting for "new intel processors" the

Re: Firefox not working anymore over ssh?

2016-04-02 Thread drago01
On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 09:39:33 +0200, drago01 wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> > On 04/02/2016 12:20 AM, drago01 wrote: >> >> Also XWayland only supports DRI3; >> > >&

Re: Firefox not working anymore over ssh?

2016-04-02 Thread drago01
On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 04/02/2016 12:20 AM, drago01 wrote: >> >> Its not broken with Firefox or LibreOffice ... it can by design not work >> remotely. This issue has been fixed in xserver git by transparently >> fallback >&

Re: Firefox not working anymore over ssh?

2016-04-02 Thread drago01
On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 3:43 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, 2016-04-01 at 21:30 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: >> On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:22:31 +0200, Tim Landscheidt wrote: >> > Michael Catanzaro wrote: >> > > Then it was probably broken by this update: >> > >> > > https://bodhi.fedoraprojec

Re: 4.4 rebase coming to F23 soon

2016-02-24 Thread drago01
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > > > On 02/24/2016 05:22 PM, Laura Abbott wrote: >> >> On 02/18/2016 05:51 PM, Laura Abbott wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> 4.4.2 is currently building and should be in updates-testing soon. As >>> usual, >>> please test and give karma appr

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Fedora support for Vulkan

2016-02-17 Thread drago01
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Peter T. wrote: >> On Tue, 2016-02-16 at 11:34 -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> >> >> DRI3 is a prerequisite, yes. The F23 builds of the intel driver had it >> disabled until fairly recently, but this update should sort you out: >> >> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat

2016-01-11 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Jan Kurik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NewRpmDBFormat > > Change owner(s): > * Florian Festi < ffesti AT redhat DOT com > > > > Change format of the RPM Database from Berkeley

Re: Specs using %define

2016-01-02 Thread drago01
> bless (drago01) > ghex (dodji, drago01, kalev) -> fixed in rawhide. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Requesting provenpackager intervention

2015-12-08 Thread drago01
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Petr Stodulka wrote: > Hi folks, > > can any provenpackager change dependency in meld package for F22? There's > dependency on package > python-gobject (which doesn't exist) and there should be pygobject2 probably. > I already filled > bugzila for that https://bug

Re: RFC: switching from grubby to grub2-mkconfig

2015-12-06 Thread drago01
On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Sun, Dec 06, 2015 at 06:25:09PM +0100, drago01 wrote: >> >> Well mkconfig can produce a configuration that does not actually work >> >> when grub2 itself gets updated (in which case the bootloader does not >&g

Re: RFC: switching from grubby to grub2-mkconfig

2015-12-06 Thread drago01
On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 7:05 AM, drago01 wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:30 AM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >>> Since the old proposal to have the bootloader automatically enumerate >>> boot options never w

Re: RFC: switching from grubby to grub2-mkconfig

2015-12-06 Thread drago01
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:30 AM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > Since the old proposal to have the bootloader automatically enumerate > boot options never went anywhere, can we do the next best thing? > > Specifically, these days grub2-mkconfig appears to produce output > that's functionally identical

Re: wayland in rawhide

2015-11-25 Thread drago01
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2015-11-20 at 14:34 +, Ian Malone wrote: >> >> [1] Apparently middle mouse buttons are rare. I'm in an office > > This seems an odd assertion [...] Its not odd ... its plain wrong. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: Retire a package from Fedora i686 (not x86_64)

2015-11-08 Thread drago01
On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 08.11.2015 um 22:17 schrieb Rex Dieter: >> >> Felix Miata wrote: >> >>> For those without >>> SSE2, Plasma 5 is completely unusable, but OK with any of the lightweigh >> >> >> . >> >> Qt5 (Gui and Declarative) pretty much requires ss

Re: Retire a package from Fedora i686 (not x86_64)

2015-11-08 Thread drago01
On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 08.11.2015 um 09:47 schrieb drago01: >> >> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> >>> Am 07.11.2015 um 20:36 schrieb drago01: >>>> >>&g

Re: Retire a package from Fedora i686 (not x86_64)

2015-11-08 Thread drago01
On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 07.11.2015 um 20:36 schrieb drago01: >> >> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> >>> the point is compile a single application with new features won#t gain >

Re: Retire a package from Fedora i686 (not x86_64)

2015-11-07 Thread drago01
On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 07.11.2015 um 19:27 schrieb drago01: >> >> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> >>> maybe you did not get "not that i say Fedora should go ahead an

Re: Retire a package from Fedora i686 (not x86_64)

2015-11-07 Thread drago01
On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 07.11.2015 um 19:01 schrieb Kevin Kofler: >> >> Reindl Harald wrote: >>> >>> well, who's to say that we stay forever on a level of CPU >>> feature-support while there are instruction sets available for a whole >>> decade which improve p

Re: make unmaintained ??

2015-10-26 Thread drago01
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Oct 25, 2015 12:53, "Jan Kratochvil" wrote: >> >> On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 01:07:47 +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> > I built 4.1 for rawhide. If that checks out to be OK, I can push >> > an update for F23 also. >> >> I d

Re: Packaging of PlayOnLinux

2015-10-14 Thread drago01
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > - Original Message - >> Dne 14.10.2015 v 16:50 Bastien Nocera napsal(a): >> > If the application cannot work without downloading anything, or being >> > supplied >> > third-party (sometimes proprietary) applications, then it's cl

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-10-07)

2015-10-12 Thread drago01
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Bastien Nocera wrote: >> 2 distributions add slightly different versions of the same functionality >> -> incompatible > > I said that carrying more feature patches makes it "more likely" that > packages from other distros will work, not "100%

Re: F23 -> Rawhide upgrade fails to start GDM

2015-09-28 Thread drago01
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Richard Bradfield wrote: > > > On Mon, 28 Sep 2015, at 17:11, drago01 wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> > On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:37:58 +0100 >> > Richard Bradfield wrote: >> > >> >

Re: F23 -> Rawhide upgrade fails to start GDM

2015-09-28 Thread drago01
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:37:58 +0100 > Richard Bradfield wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> This may have been an insane proposition, so I'm asking here before I >> go near bugzilla. >> >> I installed a clean F23 beta machine, then used dnf system upgrad

Re: llvm 3.7 for rawhide and then f23

2015-09-24 Thread drago01
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Dave Johansen wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: >> >> On Sun, 2015-09-20 at 21:00 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: >> > On 9/20/15, David Airlie wrote: >> > > It's llvm, there is never a good time to upgrade it and no llvm >> > > release

Re: Disable PulseAudio flat volumes to prevent it from pushing volume level to max

2015-09-22 Thread drago01
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Owen Taylor wrote: > On Thu, 2015-09-17 at 23:26 +0200, Germano Massullo wrote: >> Il 17/09/2015 21:13, Andrew Lutomirski ha scritto: >> > >> > To clarify: did you get blasted by music or by video conference >> > sounds? If the music volume got louder, then it so

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-22 Thread drago01
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Matej Stuchlik wrote: > [...] > When it comes to python3, one way to shave off ~9MiB from python3-libs, and > possibly quite a bit more overall, would be to not install both optimized and > unoptimized bytecode, as we do now, but just the unoptimized one (the > p

Re: /var/log/dnf.log

2015-09-10 Thread drago01
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 10.09.2015 um 17:38 schrieb David Sommerseth: >> >> On 10/09/15 15:31, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> >>> what in the world is that garbage instead a clear and simple log as >>> /var/log/yum.log just listing installed, removed and updated pack

Re: Firefox addon signing

2015-08-26 Thread drago01
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Richard Z wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 03:12:25PM +0300, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: >> Their FAQ is constantly updated: >> >> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Addons/Extension_Signing#FAQ >> >> I'm not sure if there is a valid practical reason to refuse submitting the

Re: Firefox testing - offscreen surfaces and OMTC

2015-08-24 Thread drago01
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Martin Stransky wrote: > On 08/24/2015 09:43 AM, drago01 wrote: >> >> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Martin Stransky >> wrote: >>> >>> On 08/21/2015 08:28 PM, Thomas Daede wrote: >>>> >>>> >&g

Re: Firefox testing - offscreen surfaces and OMTC

2015-08-24 Thread drago01
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Martin Stransky wrote: > On 08/21/2015 08:28 PM, Thomas Daede wrote: >> >> I've been running nightly with this enabled for quite a while on Intel >> and it's been fine. >> >> Note that OMTC is required for e10s. > > > If you mean OMTC by "this" then you're right -

Re: Firefox testing - offscreen surfaces and OMTC

2015-08-21 Thread drago01
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Martin Stransky wrote: > Folks, > > I'd use some testing for new Firefox feature - offscreen surfaces [1]. It > may also fix crashes when OMTC is enabled [2]. Browser should be a bit > faster with those features on. > > How to test? > > - Install Firefox 40 on Fed

Re: Same comand names in /usr/bin and /usr/sbin

2015-08-16 Thread drago01
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 02:03:38PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> In general: encoding privilige policy into the API through binary >> paths is a really bad idea, as policy shouldn't be considered strict >> API (or to be more precise: i

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

2015-08-14 Thread drago01
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Wei-Lun Chao wrote: > Hi, > > Is there already any discussion about: > rename arch name "noarch" to "all" > rename arch name "x86_64" to "amd64" > rename package name "kernel-PAE" to "kernel" > and even rename package name "kernel" to "linux" Why? That doesn't sol

Re: Non responsive maintainer: Jaromír Cápík

2015-07-04 Thread drago01
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Upstream version of phatch is available and also a patch provided on > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1192867 but the assignee is > unresponsive. The patch has been attached less than a week ago ... -- devel mailing list de

Re: dnssec-trigger + GNOME + NetworkManager integration

2015-07-02 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 2:33 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 02.07.2015 um 02:30 schrieb Michael Catanzaro: >> >> On Wed, 2015-07-01 at 19:59 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: >>> >>> Principles are good and well. But how many times did you actually USE >>> that option you so reluctantly implemented? :) >

Re: FESCO Elections - June 2015 - Results

2015-06-29 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 29/06/15 12:00, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 3:50 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: >>> >>> Greetings, all! >>> >>> The elections for FESCo - June 2015 have concluded, and the results >>> are shown below. >>> >>> FESCo is electing 4 sea

Re: fedup for F23 and beyond

2015-06-07 Thread drago01
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > Uhh, this might be a stupid question, but what actually prevents us > from integrating the FedUp process into install media (that is, not > live images)? I mean, yeah, it's nice that we can do upgrades online, > but what about when the system we

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