Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-09 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/09/2014 03:56 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Jan 7, 2014 4:53 AM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com mailto:frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:28:59 +0100 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: look like it starts to happen again:

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-09 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/09/2014 04:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 09.01.2014 16:03, schrieb Jiri Moskovcak: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1049310 After asking on the bugzilla it seems that ales would like people who want this change to cc themselves on the bug report. If the cc reaches 40

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-09 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/09/2014 04:40 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 09.01.2014 16:37, schrieb Jiri Moskovcak: On 01/09/2014 04:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 09.01.2014 16:03, schrieb Jiri Moskovcak: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1049310 After asking on the bugzilla it seems that ales would

Re: ABRT in the comps group 'standard'

2013-12-06 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/06/2013 02:06 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 12/06/2013 12:51 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 6.12.2013 12:39, Miroslav Suchý napsal(a): On 12/06/2013 12:14 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: I would say that abrt should not be installed et all unless user has agreed to it at install

Re: ABRT in the comps group 'standard'

2013-12-06 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/06/2013 02:08 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 12/06/2013 01:05 PM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: On 12/06/2013 01:59 PM, Václav Pavlín wrote: I think abrt serves as good source of info in case of unexpected crashes, which is quite important to have stable system. So although being puzzled

Re: ABRT in the comps group 'standard'

2013-12-06 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/06/2013 02:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/06/2013 12:14 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 12/06/2013 09:56 AM, Jakub Filak wrote: Hello, I'd like to add abrt-cli package to the comps group 'standard'. The package pulls core ABRT functionality for catching C/C++ crashes, uncaught

Re: ABRT in the comps group 'standard'

2013-12-06 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/06/2013 02:34 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/06/2013 02:14 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 12/06/2013 02:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/06/2013 12:14 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 12/06/2013 09:56 AM, Jakub Filak wrote: Hello, I'd like to add abrt-cli package to the comps

Re: ABRT in the comps group 'standard'

2013-12-06 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/06/2013 04:07 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/06/2013 02:45 PM, Michal Toman wrote: On 06.12.2013 14:34, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/06/2013 02:14 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: ABRT does not send *any* information unless you agree to do it. Not even the anonymous reports. It is true

Re: Core file location and abrt

2013-11-11 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 11/11/2013 09:50 PM, Braden McDaniel wrote: [I sent this to the users list a little while ago, but got no takers. Hopefully I'll have better luck here.] I'd like to ensure core files go to a local partition rather than the default location ($HOME), which is network-mounted in my case.

Re: Software management: Call for RFEs results!

2013-10-17 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 10/17/2013 09:15 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 17.10.2013 01:15, Kevin Kofler napsal(a): Vít Ondruch wrote: Sorry, this has nothing to do with FPC yet. RPM/YUM/DNF should first provide reasonable support. For example this issue [1] could take us closer as a first approximation. Vít [1]

Re: Red Hat and Fedora Working Groups

2013-10-08 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 10/05/2013 05:34 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 10/04/2013 06:23 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 03:14:27PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Why should the community participate in this when it turns out that the the whole WG and the next proposal is nothing but an

ABRT is filling private bugs

2013-09-26 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
Hi, as some of you already noticed ABRT started filling a private bugs which are only readable by reporter and assigned developer. This is an unfortunate UX design together with [1][2]. Fixing those two bugzillas should help, but there will always be a possibility that user will create a

Re: abrt Bugzilla summary

2013-09-17 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 09/16/2013 11:47 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:08:02 -0400 (EDT) Jakub Filak jfi...@redhat.com wrote: I wonder if someday it would make sense to customize this per user? Possibly too much complexity... kevin ABRT provides per component customization.

packaging java unix sockets library

2013-06-19 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
Hi, I recently run into situation where I need to use unix socket in java program. Fro obvious reasons JAVA doesn't support it out of the box, so I have to use 3rd party library. After some googling I came to conclusion that there is no such library in Fedora which is quite a surprise for me

Re: packaging java unix sockets library

2013-06-19 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 06/19/2013 10:03 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: - Original Message - Hi, I recently run into situation where I need to use unix socket in java program. Fro obvious reasons JAVA doesn't support it out of the box, so I have to use 3rd party library. After some googling I came to conclusion

Re: unable to run abrt

2013-03-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 03/04/2013 06:14 AM, Dan Mashal wrote: On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Christopher Meng cicku...@gmail.com wrote: 在 2013-3-4 AM7:30,Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com写道: I understand but is this happening on 18? I know it's happening on rawhide for sure. Yes. F17 F18 Rawhide. I'll

Re: another abrt problem

2013-03-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 03/04/2013 01:17 PM, Neal Becker wrote: Is it possible to use abrt as intended and still be able to get core dumps from non-fedora binaries (e.g., my own code)? Right now, all core dumps are redirected to abrt. We need a way to be able to use gdb to debug core dumps. I know we can turn off

Re: another abrt problem

2013-03-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 03/04/2013 01:28 PM, Neal Becker wrote: Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 03/04/2013 01:17 PM, Neal Becker wrote: Is it possible to use abrt as intended and still be able to get core dumps from non-fedora binaries (e.g., my own code)? Right now, all core dumps are redirected to abrt. We need

Re: another abrt problem

2013-03-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 03/04/2013 01:37 PM, Neal Becker wrote: Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 03/04/2013 01:28 PM, Neal Becker wrote: Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 03/04/2013 01:17 PM, Neal Becker wrote: Is it possible to use abrt as intended and still be able to get core dumps from non-fedora binaries (e.g., my own

Re: Most buggy packages

2013-02-26 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 02/26/2013 04:25 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Jiri Moskovcak jmosk...@redhat.com mailto:jmosk...@redhat.com wrote: - yes, the naming is a bit unfair, the stats are not meant to point fingers or blame some package for being unstable, it's meant

Re: Most buggy packages

2013-02-25 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 02/25/2013 12:53 PM, Kamil Paral wrote: Hi, since we opened the question of the most buggy applications I would like to introduce you the Fedora crash statistics generated from ABRT reports. It actually doesn't show the most buggy applications, but the number of crashes per application

Re: Abrt (was Re: Most buggy packages)

2013-02-21 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 02/20/2013 05:21 PM, Tom Tromey wrote: David == David Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com writes: David In particular, for scripting languages, David it's most useful to be able to extract the script-level backtrace from David the C-level stack (i.e. what was the Python code doing?) FWIW we're

Re: Abrt (was Re: Most buggy packages)

2013-02-20 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
and we would appreciate any help with this matter. Regards, Jirka On 02/20/2013 02:09 AM, Dave Jones wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:10:38PM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: So if you want to hack this into a tool for use on kernel bugs, go for it. ...and please integrate with abrt

Re: Abrt (was Re: Most buggy packages)

2013-02-19 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 02/19/2013 10:06 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On 19/02/13 10:38 AM, David Malcolm wrote: On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 11:43 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 07:13:27AM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: I have a script that automates some of the workload of reassigning the component

Re: kmod-nvidia-3.6.10?

2012-12-19 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/19/2012 03:51 PM, Charlie Bennett wrote: Hi All - Are there plans to promote the kmod-nvidia packages for 3.6.10 on F17 from testing to updates? - not sure if this is the right ml, kmod-nvidia is definitely not in the official Fedora repos, it's in rpmfusion --Jirka Thanks,

Re: Recent ABRT changes in F-17

2012-09-11 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 09/10/2012 04:55 PM, Jerry James wrote: Evolution crashed on takeoff this morning. I tried to report the bug with ABRT, and was surprised when it automatically contacted the retrace server without asking me what to do first. I've already got huge piles of debuginfo packages installed, so it

Re: How to proceed with MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-24 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 05/24/2012 11:07 AM, Alexander Larsson wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 11:22 +0300, Yanko Kaneti wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 09:35 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 09:28:16 +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: However, the whole thing is useless unless we agree that we want to

Re: How to proceed with MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-24 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 05/24/2012 11:24 AM, Alexander Larsson wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 11:17 +0200, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 05/24/2012 11:07 AM, Alexander Larsson wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 11:22 +0300, Yanko Kaneti wrote: The duplication of effort less so IMHO, as different people are doing the work

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-09 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 05/09/2012 01:51 PM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 01:44:03PM +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: I'm not proposing that we drop the existing backtraces with full debug info, but (appart from the other places where backtraces are also useful) I'd like it if ABRT could somehow

Re: /var/crash/* disappear after reboot

2012-04-11 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 04/10/2012 03:09 PM, Vivek Goyal wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:17:37AM +0200, Michal Toman wrote: On 2012/10/04 09:48, Cong Wang wrote: On 04/09/2012 05:32 PM, Dave Young wrote: On 04/09/2012 04:55 PM, Nikola Pajkovsky wrote: From kdump side of view, the vmcore should be there

Re: Mass deduplication and reassignment of ABRT bugs

2012-03-21 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 03/21/2012 02:32 PM, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 08:08:13AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Miroslav Lichvar wrote: We don't try to deduplicate python bugs yet. (only by the abrt_hash field in bugzilla) Every dupe bug has the same abrt_hash in the Whiteboard:

Re: Heads up: bumping libnl to v3 in rawhide/F17 soon

2011-11-09 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 11/09/2011 12:08 AM, Dan Williams wrote: On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 22:21 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 11/08/2011 06:10 PM, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, At some point here I'm going to bump libnl to version 3 in rawhide. The libnl 1.1 we use today is way out of date and we want version 3

Re: How to find out download URL for a given package through code ?

2011-11-09 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 11/10/2011 06:43 AM, Parag N(पराग़) wrote: Hi, On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Kushal Daskushal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am trying to find the best suitable way to get download URL for any given package ? Say, someone wants to find out download URL for

Re: Heads up: bumping libnl to v3 in rawhide/F17 soon

2011-11-08 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 11/08/2011 06:10 PM, Dan Williams wrote: Hi, At some point here I'm going to bump libnl to version 3 in rawhide. The libnl 1.1 we use today is way out of date and we want version 3 for the enhanced capabilities like bonding, bridging, vlan, etc. This *does* - does it mean NM in F17 will

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-13 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 10/13/2011 09:45 AM, Callum Lerwick wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote: Length beats out larger character set, which is nicely illustrated by the XKCD cartoon http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/password_strength.png Be careful, that xkcd

New retrace-server is up'n'running

2011-10-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
Hi, the new retrace server HW is finally set up and running. Since it has the same name as the old one (retrace.fedoraproject.org) no special configuration is needed, it *should* just work. pros: - support for F16 (so we can use it on liveCD (need to fix: 742609)) - support for rawhide (testers

Re: Abrt does not work in F16

2011-09-15 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 09/15/2011 09:29 PM, Andreas Tunek wrote: Hi Fedora! Currently, the abrt reporting program does not seem to work for me, when I try to submit to bugzilla I get Essential file 'duphash' is missing, can't continue.. (exited with 1) Is this a known problem or is there anything wrong on my

Re: Broken abrt/ libreport dependencies

2011-07-21 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 07/21/2011 07:32 PM, Joshua C. wrote: The nightly builds for f16 are broken for the last 4-5 days because of the abrt and libreport packages and the error is: DEBUG util.py:247: Package abrt-plugin-bugzilla is obsoleted by libreport-plugin-bugzilla, but obsoleting package does not provide

Re: Broken abrt/ libreport dependencies

2011-07-21 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 07/21/2011 07:59 PM, Joshua C. wrote: 2011/7/21 Jiri Moskovcakjmosk...@redhat.com: On 07/21/2011 07:32 PM, Joshua C. wrote: The nightly builds for f16 are broken for the last 4-5 days because of the abrt and libreport packages and the error is: DEBUG util.py:247: Package

Re: [HEADS-UP] replacing report with libreport

2011-07-01 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 07/01/2011 04:04 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 06/30/2011 08:26 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Well, updates-testing is 'you get to keep both halves' territory. wasn't it stable that broke things (sealert stopped working for example after a stable update) - and then something from updates

Re: [HEADS-UP] replacing report with libreport

2011-06-30 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 06/29/2011 06:44 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 13:11 +0200, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 06/29/2011 12:18 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 06/29/2011 03:20 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: Hi! I'm going to replace the report library with the new libreport. Today I plan to replace

Re: [HEADS-UP] replacing report with libreport

2011-06-30 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 06/30/2011 07:37 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 06/30/2011 12:16 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Jiri Moskovcakjmosk...@redhat.com wrote: - I was afraid, that it would be against some Fedora policy ;) Then just the rawhide.. Okay if this isn't coming to F15, can

[HEADS-UP] replacing report with libreport

2011-06-29 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
Hi! I'm going to replace the report library with the new libreport. Today I plan to replace it in rawhide and if it goes smoothly I'd like to replace it in F15 as well. pros: - libreport is written in C (report is in python), so it's easier to write bindings for other languages - it's API

Re: [HEADS-UP] replacing report with libreport

2011-06-29 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 06/29/2011 12:18 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 06/29/2011 03:20 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: Hi! I'm going to replace the report library with the new libreport. Today I plan to replace it in rawhide and if it goes smoothly I'd like to replace it in F15 as well. Why in Fedora 15? There seems

Re: [HEADS-UP] replacing report with libreport

2011-06-29 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 06/29/2011 01:16 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/29/2011 05:50 AM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: Hi! I'm going to replace the report library with the new libreport. Today I plan to replace it in rawhide and if it goes smoothly I'd like to replace

Re: abrt finding closed bugs

2011-05-28 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 05/28/2011 07:48 AM, Braden McDaniel wrote: From abrt: Logging into Bugzilla at https://bugzilla.redhat.com Checking for duplicates Bug is already reported: 701604 Logging out Status: CLOSED INSUFFICIENT_DATA

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 03/30/2011 02:04 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 03/30/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya, I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a directory /run in the root directory. Most likely you'll sooner or later stumble over it, so here's an explanation what

Re: ACTION REQUIRED: Important hanges to Fedora translation workflow

2011-03-03 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
When I was migrating ABRT to transifex.net I hit a problem with tx push, so to ease the life of others who may hit the same problem here is my story: 1. created the project 2. created the resource by uploading the abrt.pot 3. outsource the project to Fedora Project 4. try to $ tx push -t 5. got

Re: ABRT bugs for EOL products

2011-02-23 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 02/23/2011 05:11 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: I just got an ABRT bug for a Fedora 12 package [1]. Can we prevent bugs being filed for EOL products? Who needs to handle this? Is this a known issue? Thanks! - Orion [1] - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679584 There is not

Re: NetworkManager doesn't start on boot

2011-02-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/31/2011 08:22 AM, Braden McDaniel wrote: I've recently set up a virtual machine running rawhide and I've noticed that NetworkManager never seems to start on boot; I must always start it manually. As far as I can tell, it is configured to start on boot. Is there something about the

Re: abrt wishlist

2010-12-22 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/22/2010 11:29 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 09.12.10 10:51, Adam Jackson (a...@redhat.com) wrote: Here's some of my pet irritations with abrt. Feel free to add your own, but please keep the gratuitous me tooing to a minimum. Here is my feature request: I want some kind of

Re: RetraceServer security [Re: abrt wishlist]

2010-12-14 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/14/2010 03:51 AM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 17:10:49 +0100, David Malcolm wrote: Another gratuitous me too, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Features/RetraceServer Detailed description: [...] User sends the coredump [...] Do you intend to make it default

Re: abrt wishlist

2010-12-14 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/14/2010 02:54 PM, Karel Klic wrote: - Separating machine-generated content from human-generated content is valuable for the developer. The two require different mental processes to handle. I have a much stronger guarantee that the abrt bug contains facts, but I also know there's no

Re: abrt wishlist

2010-12-14 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/14/2010 05:14 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: On Tuesday, December 14, 2010 03:19:32 pm Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 12/14/2010 02:54 PM, Karel Klic wrote: - Separating machine-generated content from human-generated content is valuable for the developer. The two require different mental

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-13 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/13/2010 01:14 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: On Thursday, December 09, 2010 06:24:15 pm Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 12/09/2010 06:11 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 17:36 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: so, can we call the RFE: attach backtrace even when dupe is found

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-13 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/13/2010 02:17 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 12/13/2010 01:14 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: On Thursday, December 09, 2010 06:24:15 pm Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 12/09/2010 06:11 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 17:36 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: so, can we call the RFE: attach

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-13 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/13/2010 05:43 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jiri Moskovcak wrote: This is not a first time when in see this idea and was already answered - we're the distro and we're responsible for the packages, filling all bugs to the upstream will make more harm then good - e.g. crash caused by our patch

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-12 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/12/2010 06:10 AM, Dave Jones wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 02:11:27AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Dave Jones wrote: On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:45:10PM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: The problem here is that some maintainers doesn't want ABRT reports

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-11 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/11/2010 02:55 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: drago01 wrote: Well ABRT should stop filing bugs in bugzilla, it does not scale PERIOD. IMHO it should file bugs in the upstream bug tracker (even if that tracker is not Bugzilla, so it'd have to learn as many different bug tracker APIs as

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-11 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/11/2010 02:05 AM, Dave Jones wrote: On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:51:39AM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: The problem is entirely cosmetic. No data is harmed, the program exits after that, it's just a child thread and the main process don't communicate the exit quite right

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-11 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/11/2010 03:55 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 12/11/2010 06:45 AM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: If ABRT can tell that the backtrace is same as something previously reported then there is no big harm, as it would only add the reporter to CC and won't be generating much noise.. The problem here

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-10 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/09/2010 08:57 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 14:53 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: On 12/09/2010 12:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 12:08 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 12/09/2010 09:59 AM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: Just a wild idea - ABRT

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-10 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/09/2010 08:57 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:53:20 -0500 Przemek Klosowskiprzemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote: On 12/09/2010 12:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 12:08 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 12/09/2010 09:59 AM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: Just

Re: abrt wishlist

2010-12-10 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/10/2010 09:24 AM, Michal Hlavinka wrote: Adding my whishlist 1) /etc/abrt/conf.d/ directory - like httpd ones. So I can drop there configuration for my packages. For example when dovecot crashes, I'd like to see doveconf -n output - I can promise the /etc/abrt/conf.d/ only for

Re: abrt wishlist

2010-12-10 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/10/2010 04:27 PM, gia...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Jiri Moskovcakjmosk...@redhat.com wrote: Gathering the RFEs at: https://fedorahosted.org/abrt/wiki/Wishlist Is it true report plugins are written in C++ ? if so, I'd love to RFE python wrapper to the plugins API

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-09 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/09/2010 10:55 AM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 12/09/2010 10:38 AM, Tomas Mraz wrote: 18:53:17ajax i've heard a modest amount of complaints that abrt is doing more harm than good 18:53:53ajax along multiple axes, but in particular it's simply too much data for apps like firefox

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-09 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/09/2010 01:08 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 12/09/2010 09:59 AM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: Just a wild idea - ABRT detects the dupes even locally so we can make ABRT to allow reporting the bug to bz only if it happened more then once (or some other threshold):) Dont we loose hard

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-09 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/09/2010 02:04 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/09/2010 01:27 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 12/09/2010 01:08 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 12/09/2010 09:59 AM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: Just a wild idea - ABRT detects the dupes even locally so we can make ABRT to allow reporting the bug

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-09 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/09/2010 03:52 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/09/2010 02:59 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 12/09/2010 02:04 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/09/2010 01:27 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 12/09/2010 01:08 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 12/09/2010 09:59 AM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: Just

Re: abrt wishlist

2010-12-09 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
Gathering the RFEs at: https://fedorahosted.org/abrt/wiki/Wishlist On 12/09/2010 04:51 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: Here's some of my pet irritations with abrt. Feel free to add your own, but please keep the gratuitous me tooing to a minimum. 1) The generated reports contain far too little

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-09 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/09/2010 05:31 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Jeu 9 décembre 2010 15:52, Ralf Corsepius a écrit : It has never done so for me (on fedora 13 + fedora 14). ABRT always instructs me to run debuginfo-install, which will fail for obvious reasons in a normal user environment and thus requires

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-09 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/09/2010 06:11 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 17:36 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: so, can we call the RFE: attach backtrace even when dupe is found ? or, cooler, 'attach backtrace even when dupe is found *if current backtrace is better than any already attached

Re: abrt wishlist

2010-12-09 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/09/2010 06:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 17:20 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: 4) Reporting to bugzilla without being able to scrape the bz username and password out of the firefox credential store is just cruel. - added as: share bz credential with other apps

Re: abrt wishlist

2010-12-09 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/09/2010 07:46 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 17:20 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: 2) I really dislike that local trace generation and retrace server are discussed as though they're the only options. If nothing else, for many non-trivial apps where abrt is potentially

Re: orphaning licq

2010-11-29 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 11/27/2010 12:15 AM, François Cami wrote: On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Jiri Moskovcakjmosk...@redhat.com wrote: I'm no longer interested in this package, so I'm going to orphan in it. IMHO there is not much users anyway, so how about removing it entirely? I'd like to take it if you

orphaning licq

2010-11-26 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
I'm no longer interested in this package, so I'm going to orphan in it. IMHO there is not much users anyway, so how about removing it entirely? Jirka -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-08 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 11/06/2010 02:53 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 11/05/2010 09:46 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 17:56:51 +0100, Ralf wrote: ABRT It doesn't tell the user that core dumps without reproducer are worthless in most cases but blindly sends out reports Parts of the Fedora user

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
Hi, some possitive news from me first: We have a new backtrace parser which should be able to find the duplicates much better (tested on every known dupes reported by ABRT so far) so at least the number of dupes should lower once this out (we're having some troubles with SELinux so it didn't

Re: ABRT opt-out? (Re: bugzilla bugzappers?)

2010-11-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 11/04/2010 03:38 PM, Sven Lankes wrote: On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: [Opt-out for ABRT-Reports] How would you do that? A popup in ABRT that reads Sorry, but the maintainer of this package has decided to not accept any

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 11/04/2010 06:56 PM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: On 17:54 Thu 04 Nov , Frank Murphy wrote: On 04/11/10 17:51, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: This is the problem we have with java-1.6.0-openjdk, except it's magnified by the fact that the user could be running *ANYTHING* on the JVM. So

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 11/04/2010 07:26 PM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: On 19:06 Thu 04 Nov , Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 11/04/2010 06:56 PM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: On 17:54 Thu 04 Nov , Frank Murphy wrote: On 04/11/10 17:51, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: This is the problem we have with java-1.6.0

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 11/04/2010 10:49 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: 2010/11/4 Orcan Ogetbil : Maybe it is time to discuss the usefulness of ABRT to Fedora. I think that it is a great idea for commercial products such as RHEL, but it obviously did not fit Fedora

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 11/04/2010 11:22 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 11/04/2010 10:49 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: 2010/11/4 Orcan Ogetbil : Maybe it is time to discuss the usefulness of ABRT to Fedora. I think

Re: [F14] abtr-gui UI should include debug-info package button

2010-09-21 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 09/20/2010 02:40 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 01:05 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: I have recently switched from F13 to F14 using preupgrade. abtr-gui UI seems to be good but misses button to manually install debug-info of package similar to KDE 4.5 crash report. Will

Re: abrt-1.1.13-1 does not allow bugzilla?!?

2010-08-17 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 08/17/2010 02:42 PM, Neal Becker wrote: abrt-1.1.13-1.fc13.x86_64 The only choice is 'log', no bugzilla! Why? Can you please run: rpm -qa | grep abrt to check if you have installed all the required packages? Or you can try to install: $ yum install abrt-desktop which should pull-in

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-05 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 08/04/2010 02:54 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 04.08.10 02:40, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: On Wed, 04.08.10 00:10, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: Small addition. When I was referring to rawhide I meant both F-14 and the new rawhide. i.e.

Re: ABRT unusable again

2010-02-12 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 02/12/2010 03:15 AM, Nils Philippsen wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 15:48 +0100, Denys Vlasenko wrote: On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 10:53 +, Leigh Scott wrote: IMO ABRT isn't that useful as a lot of the reports don't include steps to reproduce (I just close the bugs after a month if they don't

Re: ABRT unusable again

2010-02-10 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 02/10/2010 10:42 AM, Till Maas wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:23:48AM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: I think I did catch it (if ABRT was running), but ordinary users can't see other user's crashes (the command from this bz has to be run under root) unless root doesn't change

Re: ABRT unusable again

2010-02-09 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 02/09/2010 04:17 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 14:16 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: because I guess they would just sit there until bugzapping period. or they get killed due to the release for which they were filed going EOL. That's what I meant :) J. -- devel mailing

Re: ABRT unusable again

2010-02-08 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 02/08/2010 05:36 PM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: Michael Schwendtmschwe...@gmail.com writes: I believe ABRT shouldn't file a bug report unless it is filled in properly. Yeah, some of us have pointed out that before. I'm happy about every detailed backtrace I get, but I would be even more

Re: abrtd not running: applet complains

2010-01-31 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/31/2010 12:46 PM, nodata wrote: On 28/01/10 12:18, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 01/27/2010 10:57 PM, nodata wrote: On 27/01/10 09:29, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 01/26/2010 10:02 PM, nodata wrote: Hi, When I disable abrtd, I get a tray applet complaining about this. Is there any precedent

Re: abrt not working in current Rawhide?

2010-01-29 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/28/2010 11:52 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 10:21 -0500, Neil Horman wrote: C'mon do we really need to make this into a fight? The reason why I didn't implement it is that it would be temporary anyway and thus doesn't worth the work, because it's not just that 10 lines

Re: abrtd not running: applet complains

2010-01-28 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/27/2010 10:57 PM, nodata wrote: On 27/01/10 09:29, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 01/26/2010 10:02 PM, nodata wrote: Hi, When I disable abrtd, I get a tray applet complaining about this. Is there any precedent for this? I have bluetooth disabled, but I don't get a complaint for that.. Filed

Re: abrt not working in current Rawhide?

2010-01-28 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/28/2010 01:02 PM, Neil Horman wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:55:47AM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 01/28/2010 02:03 AM, Neil Horman wrote: On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:46:33PM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: Unfortunately it doesn't because of this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com

Re: abrt not working in current Rawhide?

2010-01-28 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/28/2010 03:25 PM, Neil Horman wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 01:17:08PM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 01/28/2010 01:02 PM, Neil Horman wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:55:47AM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 01/28/2010 02:03 AM, Neil Horman wrote: On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:46:33PM

Re: abrtd not running: applet complains

2010-01-27 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/26/2010 10:02 PM, nodata wrote: Hi, When I disable abrtd, I get a tray applet complaining about this. Is there any precedent for this? I have bluetooth disabled, but I don't get a complaint for that.. Filed bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=557866 This seems like you

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/18/2010 12:58 AM, Tom Lane wrote: Tony Nelsontonynel...@georgeanelson.com writes: On 10-01-17 12:32:17, Mail Lists wrote: Someone else asked this earlier - but why do users need the debug-info packages - only the debugger looking at the tracebacks needs this. So seems installing the

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/18/2010 01:28 PM, Thomas Moschny wrote: 2010/1/18 Jiri Moskovcakjmosk...@redhat.com: Plus abrt should run `rpm -V' on any rpm involved in the transaction (=if user does not have replaced the binary by some non-rpm make install). ABRT used to do this (and still can, it's just disabled),

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-18 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/18/2010 02:18 PM, James Antill wrote: On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 11:19 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: Currently ABRT can at least run `rpm -qf MAIN_EXECUTABLE ALL_GDB_INFO_SHARED_DISPLAYED LIBRARIES FILENAMES' and report these nvrs in the Bugzilla bugreport before such build-id - nvr server

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-17 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 01/16/2010 04:01 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: I know that APRT is still very young technology, but after 2 months it's time for a interim conclusion. For me the conclusions are: Pro: * abrt is a help for developers: I received one positive feedback from a developer: The

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