On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:53:49 -0400
Brandon Lozza bran...@pwnage.ca wrote:
It would be nice to list it somewhere as an exception, to avoid
panics :)
Well, I personally do not want to say:
Hey, anytime you like down the
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Gerald Henriksen ghenr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:26:46 -0400, you wrote:
I can't tell people Fedora is the best if it's not carrying the latest
upstream KDE, its just not possible. I'm constantly recruiting new
users. I'm in regular contact with
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Gerald Henriksen ghenr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 13:41:38 +0200, you wrote:
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:53:49 -0400
Brandon Lozza bran...@pwnage.ca wrote:
It would be nice to list
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote:
Andrea Musuruane wrote:
Why xulrunner has been built against this and pushed to stable?
Because Firefox/Thunderbird maintainers have the ability to
Push-To-Stable regardless of what the Fedora package policies say.
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:05 AM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Thomas Janssen
thom...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
rant
My security fix build was rejected going to stable directly, because
it could break anything (freeciv game), so i expect critical packages
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Thomas Janssen
thom...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
File a ticket with FESCo. We should have *all* packages go trough
updates-testing, regardless of who's the maintainer or what's
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Thomas Janssen
thom...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hi,
i tested today why stfl FTBFS. I found out that it doesn't installs a
file into /usr/lib.. but lib/..
That happens just for the ruby part of stfl, the perl parts getting
installed into /usr/lib.. just fine
Hi,
i tested today why stfl FTBFS. I found out that it doesn't installs a
file into /usr/lib.. but lib/..
That happens just for the ruby part of stfl, the perl parts getting
installed into /usr/lib.. just fine.
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=2450778name=build.log
I checked
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote:
Thomas Janssen thom...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
What previous niche?
We had a distro that was pretty general purpose, worked for servers and
desktops and even laptops. We had a predictable schedule.
We had new
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
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Hash: SHA1
On 08/28/2010 09:25 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Jesse Keating wrote:
The cynic in me would expect that the people who want something different
than the fire hose we have now
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Manuel Escudero jmlev...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi! I've been working in a project called Hermes (For more information
refer to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Hermes) The idea is to build a Feed
Parser
customizable by the user that notifies when there are important
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:53 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 01:37 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Adam Williamson wrote:
As several people have pointed out, there's a fundamental inconsistency
in your position - you can't simultaneously claim that lots of
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Joachim Backes
joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote:
Hi,
I have the impression that the DVBT-USB stick mentioned in the subject line
is not supported by F14. After plugging in, I got an error msg: missing
firmware file in /lib/firmware:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Thomas Janssen wrote:
I'm part of the KDE SIG. I will apply today for proventester to become
the KDE proventester.
Actually, Rex Dieter already started the application process, so you'll
probably become a KDE
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Nicolas Mailhot
nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
Le jeudi 12 août 2010 à 13:51 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III a écrit :
I guess I'm just saying that, if we had the developer time to do it, it
would be super nice if we could get the pre-F15 rawhide is useless bit
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
On Mon, 02.08.10 17:01, Mike Prispan (fr.p...@gmail.com) wrote:
Hi all,
maybe I'm wrong (I guess I am), but is PulseAudio really dead? What lead me
to this conclusion? Well look at this:
* Fedora has 201
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Gérard Milmeister g...@bluewin.ch wrote:
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 10:13 +0800, Chen Lei wrote:
Hi FESCo,
Can we orphan his packages now? I'd like to take scons, I don't think
waiting more time will be helpful.
Hi,
I am still alive.
I had always hoped to find
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Thomas Janssen wrote:
You have to accept the maintainers decision to not update it yet? What
do you think will happen if everyone builds the wishes he has and
breaks a lot of stuff with it? Anarchy? We have processes
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Thomas Janssen wrote:
I'm sorry, i can't agree with you here. Being more aggressive, putting
pressure on whatever just to have the latest versions of all the
software around in rawhide, sounds to me like we would go
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Dan Horák d...@danny.cz wrote:
Kevin Kofler píše v Pá 02. 07. 2010 v 04:06 +0200:
Dan Horák wrote:
I will rebuild wxGTK without the internal crash handler for the the
devel/F14 branch so we can use ABRT to report crashes from wxGTK-based
apps. This will
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Peter Czanik pcza...@fang.fa.gau.hu wrote:
2010-07-02 03:18 keltezéssel, Kevin Kofler írta:
Dave Airlie wrote:
So I've noticed maintainers of packages in Fedora seem to have a concept
of ownership, and I'm wondering if we could remove that word from usage
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Julian Aloofi
julian.fedorali...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I have a pretty simple question:
Is there a way to subscribe to certain packages in bodhi so that I get
a notification via mail whenever updates are queued for it or pushes
happen? That would be
Hi folks,
todays yum update spit out some errors and warnings not too hard to fix:
Warning in file
/usr/share/applications/gnome-nautilus-folder-handler.desktop: usage
of MIME type x-directory/gnome-default-handler is discouraged
(x-directory is an old media type that should be replaced with a
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Michel Alexandre Salim
michael.silva...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I'm orphaning google-gadgets -- there are trivial crashing bugs (like
Miro before it switched away from xulrunner, the
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Camilo Mesias cam...@mesias.co.uk wrote:
Hi,
You can either run
dbus_send --print-reply --system \
--dest=org.freedesktop.NetworkManager \
/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager \
org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.wake
or run
service
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
thomasj:BADURL:glob2-0.9.4.4.tar.gz:glob2
Thanks, fixed in cvs.
--
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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 22:47 -0500, Garrett Holmstrom wrote:
Fedora only has one branched, yet unreleased release at a time. Can we
recycle the same tag(s) for every release instead of creating new ones
every time?
We
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:14 AM, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Thankfully all the giant flamewars and new policies didn't make anyone
think twice about the users, as we already have 140 updates with a
combined size of _over_ 750MB on x86_64, biggest 5 are:
6.2M
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net wrote:
On 05/11/2010 01:14 AM, James Antill wrote:
Thankfully all the giant flamewars and new policies didn't make anyone
think twice about the users, as we already have 140 updates with a
combined size of _over_ 750MB on x86_64,
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Gilboa Davara gilb...@gmail.com wrote:
If we, as a -community- project, want to remain relevant, it is time to
decide who we are and what is our goal.
Agreed. The who we are is easy answered, we're RHs *playground*. That
is what everyone, not completely new to
2010/5/3 Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se:
Thomas Janssen wrote:
Good question about on or off by default. To make sense it should be
on by default.
NO! Popcon may have its uses, and I actually have it enabled on my Debian
boxes, but it *must* be strictly opt-in. If it were
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 10:03:34PM +0200, Thomas Janssen wrote:
- Helps to decide if a package can be easily removed from Fedora
(upstream dead, no users left, good bye is no problem)
Sounds like another tool to beat
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Rudolf Kastl che...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/5/4 Thomas Spura toms...@fedoraproject.org:
Am Montag, den 03.05.2010, 22:37 -0400 schrieb Orcan Ogetbil:
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Orcan Ogetbil said:
Sorry if i answer that
2010/5/4 Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se:
Thomas Janssen wrote:
Well, i wouldn't call a software that counts serverside downloads of
FOSS software and gives based on that downloads/installations, a
popularity suggestion in packagekit, spyware.
There's nothing at all that gets sent
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote:
Thomas Janssen wrote:
Maybe i'm wrong and nothing is decided, but why don't we do something
then and get the data we need to decide the*right* direction in the
first place?
Because the important people of Fedora have
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at said:
Matthew Garrett wrote:
snip
Can we PLEASE not rehash all of this again?
Generally agreed.
Maybe the reason you lost votes is that a lot of people just don't
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 07:34:28PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Why should we not call the GNOME spin, and the GNOME desktop in general, by
its name? GNOME is just A desktop, it's NOT the desktop.
It's the desktop with
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Jeff Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Thomas Janssen
thom...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
- Superb information for us packagers if and how much (of course not
the correct value) users use the software i package
It may or may
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Rafał Psota rafal...@gmail.com wrote:
cssed -- CSS editor and validator
diffpdf -- PDF files comparator
geekcode -- Geek Code generator
glob2 -- An innovative RTS game
metacafe-dl -- Command-line program to download videos from metacafe.com
ranpwd -- A
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Rafał Psota rafal...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/4/29 Thomas Janssen thom...@fedoraproject.org:
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Rafał Psota rafal...@gmail.com wrote:
cssed -- CSS editor and validator
diffpdf -- PDF files comparator
geekcode -- Geek Code generator
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Robin 'cheese' Lee
chees...@hotmail.com wrote:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/gentoo
If the owner takes no count of this package, I would like to co-maintain it.
My FAS account is 'cheeselee'.
Thank you!
You added yourself already to the
2010/4/26 Chen Lei supercy...@163.com:
On 2010-04-26 21:35:53，Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote：
I had started[1] this process weeks ago. He rebuilt easytag a few days
after my initial e-mail but for an unrelated bug report. He has not
responded to my direct e-mails or bug reports or
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes:
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:03:28 -0400,
Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
Wouldn't it be sensible to approach the Mozilla folk about getting them
to relax their requirements so that sane
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Thomas Janssen
thom...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes:
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:03:28 -0400,
Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
Wouldn't it be sensible
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote:
On 04/23/2010 09:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 04/23/2010 09:03 AM, Martin Stransky wrote:
Hi,
we're patching mozilla packages only for really critical issues because
of mozilla trademarks. We can't put any patch
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Johan Cwiklinski maili...@x-tnd.be wrote:
Hello
I've not used kftpgrabber for a long long time ; and I wish to orphan it.
I've just taken a look at upstream and even if the latest stable version
came in 2007 ; according to
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Athmane Madjoudj athma...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm against making a mess of PATH with a crapload of symlinks.
If this were to happen, it should happen at a bashrc alias level, and even
then I'm still against it.
i agree, also the proposed commands are too long
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Matt McCutchen m...@mattmccutchen.net wrote:
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 15:53 +0200, Thomas Janssen wrote:
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Juha Tuomala juha.tuom...@iki.fi wrote:
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010, Ryan Rix wrote:
On Mon 12 April 2010 6:40:59 am Juha Tuomala
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Juha Tuomala juha.tuom...@iki.fi wrote:
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010, Ryan Rix wrote:
On Mon 12 April 2010 6:40:59 am Juha Tuomala wrote:
I recall, that the earlier version had some level of Akonadi support
as well, so in theory, would it be possible to revert the
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Julian Sikorski beleg...@gmail.com wrote:
W dniu 03.04.2010 20:52, Felix Kaechele pisze:
I talked to him on IRC three days ago and he accepted one of my bugs I
filed at morituri's (a cd ripping tool of his, best there is) bugtracker.
Maybe ping him on IRC. His
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello!
I just found that some folks submitted some interesting packages for the
review. Not all of them are in good shape, though.
* wow-oss (Fedora Games SIG members, please take care of it)
* iTunes (nice, Qt-based
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Simon Wesp
cassmod...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Am Dienstag, den 16.03.2010, 22:11 +0100 schrieb Thomas Janssen:
Hi,
As-Salāmu `Alaykum
im orphaning:
e_dbus
ecore
edje
eet
efreet
embryo
emotion
epeg
epsilon
evas
ewl
libeina
and I will also orphan
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Karsten Hopp kars...@redhat.com wrote:
Am 22.03.2010 12:05, schrieb Till Maas:
Hiyas,
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 04:45:25PM +0800, Chen Lei wrote:
The privoxy current in F12 is a beta version and had a lot of bugs.
See
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net wrote:
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 03/18/2010 02:01 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote:
Warren Togami wrote:
I am orphaning the following packages. Two look pretty important for
someone else to save.
NEWLY ORPHANED PACKAGES
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote:
Dne 14.3.2010 19:29, Kevin Kofler napsal(a):
Nonsense. There ARE users who want this kind of updates. Please don't
generalize your own opinion to ALL users in that way. no is a strong word!
And yes, these are users who have
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:20:09 -0700
Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 14:14 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
#355 Let rel-eng untag embryo from F-13 because it breaks the chain
and upgrade path
Does
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 21:48 +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote:
Why, do you think, should just a single user change to Fedora, away
from Ubuntu or any other Distro? Because we're blue?
If the only reason to choose Fedora
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 16:05 -0600, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
I'd expect people that want 100% Free to use gNewSense. I'm not sure how
you define more ammeniable to new contributors, so that's harder to
address. Still, I
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Thomas Janssen
thom...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 16:05 -0600, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
I'd expect people that want 100% Free to use gNewSense. I'm not sure how
you
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 00:52 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Jesse Keating wrote:
Fundamental point of view difference. You take the point of view of
push everything all the time /unless/ there is a good enough reason not
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/03/10 19:27, Adam Williamson wrote:
--snipped--
Bringing it back to dialup.
Fedora liveCD 500-700mb
CentOS DVD 3.5GB app.
Fedora 1, CentOS 0
In my experience, many users with restricted bandwidth actually
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/12/2010 04:36 PM, Thomas Janssen wrote:
And i disagree here. People like that have to face that Fedora or any
similar distro isn't for them.
I don't see why you want to continue pushing off users instead
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/03/10 11:33, Thomas Janssen wrote:
-snipped--
If I can be indulged.
it's because i can't believe that dial-up-land user are really that
stubborn
It's not the endusers fault,
they have bad infracture.
Oh, so
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/03/10 11:56, Thomas Janssen wrote:
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/03/10 11:33, Thomas Janssen wrote:
-snipped--
If I can be indulged.
it's because i can't believe
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/12/2010 05:03 PM, Thomas Janssen wrote:
I wasn't answering the ABI stability part. But the people-in-dial-up-land
part.
It is interconnected in my argument and doesn't make sense to debate in
parts. If you
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/03/10 12:12, Thomas Janssen wrote:
--sniped--
Oh, so it's our fault?
It's just life, in all it's forms.
Exactly. And if i live in an area where i cant have everything, i
can't choose everything.
Bringing
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:32 PM, John J. McDonough wb8...@arrl.net wrote:
Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at said:
If the infrastructure sucks where you live, what needs to happen
is that the infrastructure needs to improve, not that the whole
world
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) said:
Also thanks for packaging that immediately -- what about installing it
by default? It's a tiny package and we really do want our users to
provide feedback.
I do not mind, if
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Sven Lankes s...@lank.es wrote:
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:59:29PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Before being added to updates, the package must receive a net karma of
+3 in Bodhi.
[...]
It is the expectation of Fesco that the majority of updates should
Hi,
what kind of karma threshold is set for the kernel?
The page in bodhi says it has a karma of 9, but if you count it, it's
13+ and 10-
And the kernel got -5 since it's pushed to stable. Shouldn't that one
stay out of stable for now?
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:36:18PM +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote:
Hi,
what kind of karma threshold is set for the kernel?
The page in bodhi says it has a karma of 9, but if you count it, it's
13+ and 10-
And the kernel got -5
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote:
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 12:34:03PM -0500, Will Woods wrote:
Adam's poll results are valid *only* for Fedora users who:
a) Are members of the Fedora forum,
b) Enthusiasts/power-users to the degree that they would notice a
2010/3/7 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
2010/3/6 Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com:
The numbers 11, 12 should only indicate the core
components revision number .
I'm not convinced to this philosophy. I have used a few Linux distros
in past 11 years, and this is something new to me...
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 3:13 AM, Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 03/07/2010 07:17 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
Then make it 3 months, 4 months... Leave it in testing forever if you
get too many complaints. But make it available
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 2:53 AM, Debarshi Ray debarshi@gmail.com wrote:
Again I say updates-testing! Leaving php-5.3 in testing on F-11 for
a couple months will warn the users what is coming up and gives them
plenty of time to adapt.
If you have a large codebase two months is barely
2010/3/7 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
2010/3/7 Thomas Janssen thom...@fedoraproject.org:
2010/3/7 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
2010/3/6 Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com:
The numbers 11, 12 should only indicate the core
components revision number .
I'm not convinced
2010/3/7 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
2010/3/7 Thomas Janssen thom...@fedoraproject.org:
Why are you trying to change the Face and Character of Fedora instead
of using what fits your needs (your own mentioned RHEL/CentOS)?
RHEL5/CentOS5 is outdated for my needs.
I had two ways:
1
Dear readers.
The last two weeks have had a few big, very hot discussed threads. I
personally was a few times way too much involved with my feelings and
i suspect a few others here as well.
As the subject says it clearly, i love Fedora. I love it as it is. It
is leading edge, i can have latest
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
I thought to myself yesterday, 'what this long and fractious thread
about update policy *really* needs is some unscientific and
controversial numbers'. =) So, I ran a forum poll! Everyone loves those,
right?
Here it
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/05/2010 02:06 PM, Sven Lankes wrote:
Maybe it isn't written down as a policy but in my mind it's a big part
of the four foundations. Unless we want to make them freedom friends
frozen frustration in the future ...
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/05/2010 03:55 PM, Thomas Janssen wrote:
I read about regressions all the time in KDE releases, over and over
again. What's a regression you Rahul have faced and can you provide a
BZ as well?
A while back a kde
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/05/2010 04:33 PM, Thomas Janssen wrote:
So you filed a bug. I will search for it. So you stop'd using it, BUT
you faced more problems like that. Now that's interesting. Or is it
that you blow into the same horn
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Thomas Janssen
thom...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Rajeesh K Nambiar
rajeeshknamb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/05/2010 10:16 AM, Rajeesh K Nambiar wrote:
Does
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote:
On 03/05/2010 10:25 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote:
I can see the need and agree that maybe not every big push needs to go
to N-1 releases. But not pushing 4.x.x relases to the currently
stable N release is just plain wrong
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 11:25 +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote:
I read about regressions all the time in KDE releases, over and over
again. What's a regression you Rahul have faced and can you provide a
BZ as well?
(snip
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 05:10:41PM +, Andrew Haley wrote:
On 03/05/2010 03:25 PM, Thomas Janssen wrote:
So i (and others who think like me), have no reason to use Fedora
over one of the other mainstream Distros
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Juha Tuomala juha.tuom...@iki.fi wrote:
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Kevin Kofler wrote:
current stable release nor support an official backports repo, an unofficial
one will no doubt spring up, or an existing unofficial repo will pick up
that role (for KDE, kde-redhat
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Thomas Janssen wrote:
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Juha Tuomala juha.tuom...@iki.fi wrote:
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Kevin Kofler wrote:
current stable release nor support an official backports repo
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thursday 04 March 2010 15:30:43 Juha Tuomala wrote:
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Kevin Kofler wrote:
current stable release nor support an official backports repo, an
unofficial one will no doubt spring up, or an existing
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 21:07 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, Jesse Keating wrote:
Ok... removing deprecated uses is a questionable at best update, but
here is the kicker. The perl in F11 is
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote:
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 09:07:29PM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, Jesse Keating wrote:
Ok... removing deprecated uses is a questionable at best update, but
here is the kicker. The perl in F11 is
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Rakesh Pandit rakesh.pan...@gmail.com wrote:
On 3 March 2010 16:23, Thomas Janssen wrote:
[..]
BUT, Fedora was my choice BECAUSE i get/got the latest and greatest.
Even without running rawhide/factory/cooker.
[..]
Well, update to latest release (every 6
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Mathieu Bridon
boche...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 13:51, Thomas Janssen thom...@fedoraproject.org
wrote:
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Mathieu Bridon
boche...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 13:33, Thomas Janssen thom
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
Once upon a time, Thomas Janssen thom...@fedoraproject.org said:
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
My own personal opinion is that stable updates should only fix serious
issues
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
Once upon a time, Thomas Janssen thom...@fedoraproject.org said:
If you want RHEL, use it.
People keep saying this, as if the opposite of updates every day is
release every 3 years. Those are two extremes
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 16:08 +0100, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
So why we can't use it as our advantage and fill this gap?
We could very well fill that gap with rapid release cycles (every 6
months) and updates for those
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
Thomas Janssen (thom...@fedoraproject.org) said:
When there's no policy, and the user has to guess whether or not they
need to do this for every package on their system, however, you have
a mess.
Well, except
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 01:16:43PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
I would like to collect feedback on this issue. If you want to disable
direct stable pushes, why? Could there be a less radical solution to that
problem
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 03:57:11PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 03:48:15PM +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote:
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Aaron Faanes dafr...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree
2010/2/21 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com:
Just for kicks, the current
Upgrade from 12+updates to 13+updates+testing
broken deps look like below. While several may be due to dead packages
that have been removed in 13, some are likely due to violated upgrade
paths and bad/missing
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