Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2022-09-20)
On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 02:47:21AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Miro Hrončok wrote: > >* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/JdkInTreeLibsAndStdclibStatic > > was submitted as an Fedora 37 update after it was deferred to Fedora > > 38. We need to decide what to do. (mhroncok, 17:02:38) > [snip] > >* AGREED: The update may be shipped after Fedora 37 Beta release, > > before the Fedora 37 Final Freeze. (+7,0,-0) (mhroncok, 17:12:48) > > This makes a farce of the whole Change process. I do not see why a Change > that was deferred to the next release can now be rushed in post Beta during > a feature freeze period where only release-critical bugs should be fixed. The impact was deemed to be small, (at least by me, I can't speak for the rest of fesco) Also QA was ok with it since any impacts should show up in final testing. > (And in the particular case of this Change, I also do not see why it was > approved at all, be it for Fedora 37, 38, or some future version, for the > reasons that were already stated by me and others when the Change was pre- > announced for discussion. The feedback on the mailing list was entirely > negative, the only people in favor were the submitters.) Not that the discussion was about all the changes/phases openjdk maintainers wanted to make. ( ie, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MoveFedoraJDKsToBecomePortableJDKs ) This is just the first part and it had reasonable amount of support. ( https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/JdkInTreeLibsAndStdclibStatic ) kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2022-09-20)
Miro Hrončok wrote: >* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/JdkInTreeLibsAndStdclibStatic > was submitted as an Fedora 37 update after it was deferred to Fedora > 38. We need to decide what to do. (mhroncok, 17:02:38) [snip] >* AGREED: The update may be shipped after Fedora 37 Beta release, > before the Fedora 37 Final Freeze. (+7,0,-0) (mhroncok, 17:12:48) This makes a farce of the whole Change process. I do not see why a Change that was deferred to the next release can now be rushed in post Beta during a feature freeze period where only release-critical bugs should be fixed. (And in the particular case of this Change, I also do not see why it was approved at all, be it for Fedora 37, 38, or some future version, for the reasons that were already stated by me and others when the Change was pre- announced for discussion. The feedback on the mailing list was entirely negative, the only people in favor were the submitters.) Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2022-09-20)
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2022-09-20) === Meeting started by mhroncok at 17:00:17 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2022-09-20/fesco.2022-09-20-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary --- * init process (mhroncok, 17:00:27) * #2859 F37 incomplete Changes: 100% complete deadline (mhroncok, 17:02:20) * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/JdkInTreeLibsAndStdclibStatic was submitted as an Fedora 37 update after it was deferred to Fedora 38. We need to decide what to do. (mhroncok, 17:02:38) * LINK: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-19a88d07b6 2 weeks ago (mhroncok, 17:11:19) * LINK: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Java (zbyszek, 17:12:32) * AGREED: The update may be shipped after Fedora 37 Beta release, before the Fedora 37 Final Freeze. (+7,0,-0) (mhroncok, 17:12:48) * Next week's chair (mhroncok, 17:16:44) * ACTION: zbyszek will chair next meeting (mhroncok, 17:17:53) * Open Floor (mhroncok, 17:18:03) Meeting ended at 17:20:21 UTC. Action Items * zbyszek will chair next meeting Action Items, by person --- * zbyszek * zbyszek will chair next meeting * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * mhroncok (40) * jvanek (33) * zodbot (14) * nirik (7) * adamw (7) * zbyszek (6) * sgallagh (4) * salimma (3) * mhayden (2) * Eighth_Doctor (2) * music[m] (2) * kalev (2) * decathorpe (0) * dcantrell (0) * music (0) * Conan_Kudo (0) * Pharaoh_Atem (0) * Son_Goku (0) * King_InuYasha (0) * Sir_Gallantmon (0) -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
