[OT] Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-02 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sex, 2016-07-01 at 21:40 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Bruno Wolff III said: > > > > On Sat, Jul 02, 2016 at 00:48:14 +0200, > >  Michael Scherer wrote: > > > > > > So that's rather fast to explain. Libero.it use this SPF record: > > Isn't SPF tied to the envelope sender addr

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-02 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:54 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > To keep this off-list as much as possible, the rant is here: > > http://reiisi.blogspot.com/2016/07/to-gil-tim-fedora-et-al.html > > (The blame lies elsewhere. I wish I had the network and social cred to > get a real movement started, away from t

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Bruno Wolff III said: > On Sat, Jul 02, 2016 at 00:48:14 +0200, > Michael Scherer wrote: > >So that's rather fast to explain. Libero.it use this SPF record: > > Isn't SPF tied to the envelope sender address and not the From: > header? Yes. Like I said earlier, the problem is

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jul 02, 2016 at 00:48:14 +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: So that's rather fast to explain. Libero.it use this SPF record: Isn't SPF tied to the envelope sender address and not the From: header? The messages do have an envelope sender address for the list, so I don't think SPF should b

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Michael Scherer
On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 05:02:58PM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, 2016-07-01 at 16:19 -0400, Dan Book wrote: > > Nobody is blocking you. But aside from this one instance I went > > digging > > through my spam folder, I do not see your messages, and I suspect > > many > > others do not ei

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread gil
Il 02/07/2016 00:02, Michael Catanzaro ha scritto: P.S. gil, keep in mind that we're not going to see your replies. I can not care less. better that way -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, 2016-07-01 at 16:19 -0400, Dan Book wrote: >> Nobody is blocking you. But aside from this one instance I went >> digging >> through my spam folder, I do not see your messages, and I suspect >> many >> others do not either. Communic

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2016-07-01 at 16:19 -0400, Dan Book wrote: > Nobody is blocking you. But aside from this one instance I went > digging > through my spam folder, I do not see your messages, and I suspect > many > others do not either. Communication doesn't work if you can't reach > the > audience, quite lit

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread gil
Il 01/07/2016 22:19, Dan Book ha scritto: Nobody is blocking you. But aside from this one instance I went digging through my spam folder, I do not see your messages, and I suspect many others do not either. Communication doesn't work if you can't reach the audience, quite literally in this ca

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Dan Book
> > repeat my self for last time: is not a my problem. > if you want block another time my fedora account, please, > take a seat > regards > .g > Nobody is blocking you. But aside from this one instance I went digging through my spam folder, I do not see your messages, and I suspect many others do

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Corey 'linuxmodder' Sheldon
Inline replies. On 07/01/2016 05:12 PM, gil wrote: > > > > Il 01/07/2016 18:41, Jeffrey Ollie ha scritto: >> Gil, you don't seem to realize that this isn't *our* spam problem, >> it's *yours*. It's pretty much guaranteed that all of your email sent >> to the Fedora mailing lists ends up in the sp

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread gil
Il 01/07/2016 18:41, Jeffrey Ollie ha scritto: Gil, you don't seem to realize that this isn't *our* spam problem, it's *yours*. It's pretty much guaranteed that all of your email sent to the Fedora mailing lists ends up in the spam folder of people that use GMail. There are probably many othe

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:42 AM, gil wrote: > Il 01/07/2016 01:54, Joel Rees ha scritto: > > To keep this off-list as much as possible, the rant is here: > http://reiisi.blogspot.com/2016/07/to-gil-tim-fedora-et-al.html > > (The blame lies elsewhere. I wish I had the network and social cred to > g

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread gil
Il 01/07/2016 01:54, Joel Rees ha scritto: To keep this off-list as much as possible, the rant is here: http://reiisi.blogspot.com/2016/07/to-gil-tim-fedora-et-al.html (The blame lies elsewhere. I wish I had the network and social cred to get a real movement started, away from the current fac

[OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-06-30 Thread Joel Rees
To keep this off-list as much as possible, the rant is here: http://reiisi.blogspot.com/2016/07/to-gil-tim-fedora-et-al.html (The blame lies elsewhere. I wish I had the network and social cred to get a real movement started, away from the current faceless CA system and towards a different identit