Re: pdfbox and batik (was: Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?)

2019-11-25 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 12:31 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > As an example of the sorry state of the Java SIG, pdfbox and batik were > orphaned 2 weeks ago, but those are dependencies of fop, which is a > dependency of publican, which is used by appstream to build documentation, > and half of the

pdfbox and batik (was: Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?)

2019-11-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
As an example of the sorry state of the Java SIG, pdfbox and batik were orphaned 2 weeks ago, but those are dependencies of fop, which is a dependency of publican, which is used by appstream to build documentation, and half of the distribution (including the entire KF5 stack, through extra-

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-19 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 4:54 PM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 09:17, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > > > On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 21:08:02 -0800, you wrote: > > > > >On 11/18/19 7:29 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > >> I can't speak for everyone, but at least my experience was that it

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-19 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 09:17, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 21:08:02 -0800, you wrote: > > >On 11/18/19 7:29 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> I can't speak for everyone, but at least my experience was that it was > >> functionally impossible to discover how to package Java stuff. In a

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-19 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 21:08:02 -0800, you wrote: >On 11/18/19 7:29 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: >> I can't speak for everyone, but at least my experience was that it was >> functionally impossible to discover how to package Java stuff. In a >> lifetime (and a job) ago, I was much more engaged in the Java

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-18 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/18/19 7:29 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 9:34 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/18/19 3:40 PM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:37:39 +0100, you wrote: Fabio Valentini wrote: Or is it time for a "tabula rasa" and restart the SIG? IMHO, yes. Kick out the 1

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-18 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 9:34 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 11/18/19 3:40 PM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:37:39 +0100, you wrote: > > > >> Fabio Valentini wrote: > >>> Or is it time for a "tabula rasa" and restart the SIG? > >> > >> IMHO, yes. Kick out the 1 or 2 Modularity

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-18 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/18/19 3:40 PM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:37:39 +0100, you wrote: Fabio Valentini wrote: Or is it time for a "tabula rasa" and restart the SIG? IMHO, yes. Kick out the 1 or 2 Modularity fundamentalists that form the current remains of the Java SIG and create a new

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-18 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Mon, 2019-11-18 at 18:40 -0500, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:37:39 +0100, you wrote: > > > Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > Or is it time for a "tabula rasa" and restart the SIG? > > > > IMHO, yes. Kick out the 1 or 2 Modularity fundamentalists that form > > the > > current

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-18 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Gerald Henriksen" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 6:40:54 PM > Subject: Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG? > > On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:37:39 +010

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-18 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:37:39 +0100, you wrote: >Fabio Valentini wrote: >> Or is it time for a "tabula rasa" and restart the SIG? > >IMHO, yes. Kick out the 1 or 2 Modularity fundamentalists that form the >current remains of the Java SIG and create a new Java SIG from scratch that >actually

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-18 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Mon, 2019-11-18 at 13:37 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Or is it time for a "tabula rasa" and restart the SIG? > > IMHO, yes. Kick out the 1 or 2 Modularity fundamentalists that form > the > current remains of the Java SIG and create a new Java SIG from > scratch that

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-18 Thread Kevin Kofler
Fabio Valentini wrote: > Or is it time for a "tabula rasa" and restart the SIG? IMHO, yes. Kick out the 1 or 2 Modularity fundamentalists that form the current remains of the Java SIG and create a new Java SIG from scratch that actually cares about packaging Java properly in and for