Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-19 Thread alekcejk
Reindl Harald wrote: > with VMware-Workstation and VMware-ESXi with ntp configured in the > guests there is no time difference at all and i am working day > and night with vrtualization and full power managment active I assume that you didn't have my problem with wrong CPU frequency in /proc/cpui

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.10.2011 14:17, schrieb alekc...@googlemail.com: > Vratislav Podzimek wrote: > >> On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 22:40 +0300, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote: >>> Frequency scaling have negative effects for me >>> so I need to have it disabled in BIOS. >> What negative effects does frequency scaling h

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-18 Thread alekcejk
Josh Boyer wrote: > Chrony is in Fedora, so I'm not entirely sure what you mean there. I mean other systems (even not Linux-based) that may run in virtual machines. > >> The real solution can be adding kernel parameter like cpufreq=disable >> that can disable using built-in cpufreq modules. > >

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-18 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 4:52 PM, wrote: > > Thanks, I will try makestep directive with F16 kernel. > This is workaround may work or may not because chrony not always available. > For example chrony can be not installed on Live images (not from Fedora) or > other systems which don't have chrony.

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-18 Thread alekcejk
Adam Jackson wrote: > 4.2.27 makestep > --- > > Normally chronyd will cause the system to gradually correct any time > offset, by slowing down or speeding up the clock as required. In > certain situations, the system clock may be so far adrift that this > slewing process would take a

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-18 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 22:02 +0300, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote: > Both ntpd and chrony can't synchronize time in VM's because of large offset. False. From chrony.txt: --- 4.2.27 makestep --- Normally chronyd will cause the system to gradually correct any time offset, by slowing

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-18 Thread alekcejk
Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 18:57 +0300, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote: > >> Changing governor can't help me, I need frequency scaling completely >> disabled. > > Have you filed a bug for the problem which frequency scaling causes for > you (system time going out of whack)?

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 18:57 +0300, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote: > Changing governor can't help me, I need frequency scaling completely disabled. Have you filed a bug for the problem which frequency scaling causes for you (system time going out of whack)? Have you tried alternative workarounds

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-18 Thread alekcejk
Marcos Felipe Rasia de Mello wrote: > Let's hope the CPU modaliases stuff get done some day. > > Marcos As workaround now I can use in F16 kernel from F15. But when F15 will be EOL no more kernel updates will be available and using old kernels forever is not good idea. Is there any chance that

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-18 Thread Marcos Felipe Rasia de Mello
2011/10/18 : > Changing governor can't help me, I need frequency scaling completely disabled. > cpupower.service starts cpupower which can't set frequency > which I set in BIOS (slightly overclocked). > This is cpufreq modules problem because frequency which > I set is not in range which can be de

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-18 Thread alekcejk
Marcos Mello wrote: > googlemail.com> writes: >> >> Kernel don't have parameter which can disable using cpufreq built-in modules. >> This is the main problem because it makes using frequency scaling >> unconditional. >> > > Here's what I use. I hope it can help you. > > - Install kernel-tool

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-18 Thread Marcos Mello
googlemail.com> writes: > > Kernel don't have parameter which can disable using cpufreq built-in modules. > This is the main problem because it makes using frequency scaling > unconditional. > Here's what I use. I hope it can help you. - Install kernel-tools package - Start/enable cpupower.se

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-18 Thread alekcejk
Vratislav Podzimek wrote: > On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 22:40 +0300, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote: >> Frequency scaling have negative effects for me >> so I need to have it disabled in BIOS. > What negative effects does frequency scaling have for you when using > governor performance? > > -- > Vratisl

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-18 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 07:57 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 12:49 +0200, Vratislav Podzimek wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 22:40 +0300, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote: > > > Frequency scaling have negative effects for me > > > so I need to have it disabled in BIOS. > > What negati

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-18 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 12:49 +0200, Vratislav Podzimek wrote: > On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 22:40 +0300, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote: > > Frequency scaling have negative effects for me > > so I need to have it disabled in BIOS. > What negative effects does frequency scaling have for you when using > gov

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-18 Thread alekcejk
Petr Sabata wrote: > The right thing to do is to fix the kernel logic, not to bring back the > userspace initscript hacks we used to have. > > Maybe there is a kernel argument to disable cpufreq stack completely for users > who really don't want it (i.e. you)? ... Kernel don't have parameter whi

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-18 Thread Vratislav Podzimek
On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 22:40 +0300, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote: > Frequency scaling have negative effects for me > so I need to have it disabled in BIOS. What negative effects does frequency scaling have for you when using governor performance? -- Vratislav Podzimek > > I think that this is no

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-18 Thread Petr Sabata
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 09:54:53PM +0300, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote: > Hi, > > The purpose of this bug was to provide native systemd script for cpuspeed in > Fedora 16 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713572 > > But instead of adding systemd script which should load cpufreq modu

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-17 Thread alekcejk
Frequency scaling have negative effects for me so I need to have it disabled in BIOS. I think that this is not BIOS option broken but broken kernel with built-in cpufreq modules. If hardware supports disabling frequency scaling then should be possibility to do this. BIOS have such possibility, Fed

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-17 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 21:54 +0300, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote: > But this assumption was wrong for my system which have BIOS option > for disabling CPU frequency scaling (SpeedStep). > > If SpeedStep is enabled in BIOS then kernel uses acpi-cpufreq built-in module > but if I will disable frequ

Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-17 Thread alekcejk
Hi, The purpose of this bug was to provide native systemd script for cpuspeed in Fedora 16 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713572 But instead of adding systemd script which should load cpufreq modules other solution was provided - cpufreq modules was compiled as built-in in Fedora 16