Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-02-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 11:46:00 -0500 (EST) Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 04:44:19 -0500 (EST) Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote: I just had a quick IRC chat with DNF maintainer and he said we still wants to switch to

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-02-02 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 04:44:19 -0500 (EST) Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote: I just had a quick IRC chat with DNF maintainer and he said we still wants to switch to py3 for F22. Lovely. Perhaps we could get the dnf folks, anaconda, qa and fesco all

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 04:44:19 -0500 (EST) Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote: I just had a quick IRC chat with DNF maintainer and he said we still wants to switch to py3 for F22. Lovely. Perhaps we could get the dnf folks, anaconda, qa and fesco all together in one place to discuss

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-30 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - On Thu, 2015-01-29 at 08:56 -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: I'm regularly talking to some of Anaconda devs (mostly Vrata Podzimek) and they still think this is doable *without* introducing high number of regressions, that would be impossible to fix before F22

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-30 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - On 29 January 2015 at 07:39, Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:38 AM,

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-30 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:39:28 -0500 (EST) Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote: Not sure about it being the default, but we've been testing it in DevAssistant for dependency installation on Python 3 and never encountered any problems. I was also contacted

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-30 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 04:44 -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: - Original Message - On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:39:28 -0500 (EST) Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote: So if more minimal is minimal buildroot, then we can achieve that, since it only has python-libs because of gdb

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 29 January 2015 at 07:39, Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Miloslav Trmač m...@redhat.com wrote:

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:39:28 -0500 (EST) Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote: Not sure about it being the default, but we've been testing it in DevAssistant for dependency installation on Python 3 and never encountered any problems. I was also contacted by dnf maintainer with a question

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-29 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:09:08 -0500 (EST) Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, I just filed 2 bugs [A], [B] for the Python 3 switch [C] and I realized that I should probably follow the mass bug filing policy. As I've said previously, we've already

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-29 Thread Miloslav Trmač
So, at today's FESCo meeting there was a good deal of discussion about python as default: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-28/fesco.2015-01-28-18.02.log.html#l-41 in which we agreed defer this to F23, file bugs against rawhide after branch (+6,0,0) I really

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 08:06:04AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Miloslav Trmač m...@redhat.com wrote: (Speaking only for myself, not for all of FESCo; hoping others will chime in.) - What if Anaconda does make it? :) I don’t know. I'm skeptical that will

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-29 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:09:08AM -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: Some general notes: If your package depends on Python because of a Python script that has /usr/bin/python in hashbang, you need to change this to /usr/bin/python3. All Requires and BuildRequires

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-29 Thread Miloslav Trmač
(Speaking only for myself, not for all of FESCo; hoping others will chime in.) - What if Anaconda does make it? :) I don’t know. - What is enough? It's possible that two or three packages may be still unported even in F23 (and as for server livecd in F23, I think there will be few more). 2-3

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Miloslav Trmač m...@redhat.com wrote: (Speaking only for myself, not for all of FESCo; hoping others will chime in.) - What if Anaconda does make it? :) I don’t know. I'm skeptical that will happen. Even if it does, that alone is likely not enough to claim

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 05:28:37AM -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: - Original Message - On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:09:08AM -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: Some general notes: If your package depends on Python because of a Python script that has /usr/bin/python in hashbang, you need

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-29 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - So, at today's FESCo meeting there was a good deal of discussion about python as default: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-28/fesco.2015-01-28-18.02.log.html#l-41 in which we agreed defer this to F23, file bugs against rawhide

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-29 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Miloslav Trmač m...@redhat.com wrote: (Speaking only for myself, not for all of FESCo; hoping others will chime in.)

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-29 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Miloslav Trmač m...@redhat.com wrote: (Speaking only for myself, not for all of FESCo; hoping others will chime in.) - What if Anaconda does make it? :) I don’t know. I'm skeptical that will happen. Even if it does, that

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Miloslav Trmač m...@redhat.com wrote: (Speaking only for myself, not for all of FESCo; hoping others will chime in.) - What if Anaconda does make it? :)

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2015-01-29 at 08:56 -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: I'm regularly talking to some of Anaconda devs (mostly Vrata Podzimek) and they still think this is doable *without* introducing high number of regressions, that would be impossible to fix before F22 final. That doesn't seem to be

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-28 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On Wed, 28 Jan 2015, Dan Williams wrote: On Wed, 2015-01-28 at 11:09 -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: Hi, I just filed 2 bugs [A], [B] for the Python 3 switch [C] and I realized that I should probably follow the mass bug filing policy. As I've said previously, we've already had both Python 2 and

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:09:08 -0500 (EST) Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, I just filed 2 bugs [A], [B] for the Python 3 switch [C] and I realized that I should probably follow the mass bug filing policy. As I've said previously, we've already had both Python 2 and Python 3 on

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:09:08AM -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: Some general notes: If your package depends on Python because of a Python script that has /usr/bin/python in hashbang, you need to change this to /usr/bin/python3. All Requires and BuildRequires on Python extension modules have

Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-28 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
Hi, I just filed 2 bugs [A], [B] for the Python 3 switch [C] and I realized that I should probably follow the mass bug filing policy. As I've said previously, we've already had both Python 2 and Python 3 on LiveCDs for few releases, so it makes sense to move as much as possible to Python 3. My

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-28 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2015-01-28 at 11:09 -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: Hi, I just filed 2 bugs [A], [B] for the Python 3 switch [C] and I realized that I should probably follow the mass bug filing policy. As I've said previously, we've already had both Python 2 and Python 3 on LiveCDs for few releases,

Re: Filing Bugs for Python 3 Switch

2015-01-28 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 01/28/2015 06:08 PM, Dan Williams wrote: On Wed, 2015-01-28 at 11:09 -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: Hi, I just filed 2 bugs [A], [B] for the Python 3 switch [C] and I realized that I should probably follow the mass bug filing policy. As I've said previously, we've already had both Python 2