TC5 Live Desktop burned to actual media is not EFI bootable on MBP41. The only
option for the media is Windows. I'm not sure if this regression occurred in
TC4 or TC5.
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Some feedback from a succefull installation of F17 TC4 on a Macbook Air 13
(Model number A1369). Unfortunately the TC5 didn't boot. For TC4 we had to
change label grub option to LIVE in order to boot. Is this a typo?
Anaconda worked just fine and installation was completed succefully. Only
thing
On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 09:07 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
TC5 Live Desktop burned to actual media is not EFI bootable on MBP41.
The only option for the media is Windows. I'm not sure if this
regression occurred in TC4 or TC5.
As noted in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810104 , this
EFI install from DVD forgets previous EFI boot
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=809963#c7
As far as sharing the same /boot/efi directory between installs, we don't
support that -- a new copy of the grub.efi binary is written as well as a
new
grub.conf.
In a
On May 10, 2012, at 10:52 PM, John Reiser wrote:
On 05/10/2012 09:34 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On May 10, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I'd say almost certainly yes. AIUI on any EFI system there's only ever a
reason to have _one_ EFI system partition.
mactel-boot in effect
On Apr 29, 2012, at 6:20 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 01:53:19PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
New problem is that the successfully installed system (from LiveCD ISO
burned to DVD-RW media), upon reboot, does not eject the disc, rather
it boots from it not the HDD.
Is this a bug? If so I'll file it.
When performing Replace Existing installation types, the 200MB HFS+ partition
used for /boot/efi is not replaced. Instead, a new one is created each time.
So if I perform five (5) Replace Existing installation types after the first
Fedora install, I end up
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 15:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
Is this a bug? If so I'll file it.
When performing Replace Existing installation types, the 200MB HFS+ partition
used for /boot/efi is not replaced. Instead, a new one is created each time.
So if I perform five (5) Replace Existing
On May 10, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I'd say almost certainly yes. AIUI on any EFI system there's only ever a
reason to have _one_ EFI system partition.
mactel-boot in effect creates an HFS+ /boot/efi partition, and does not use the
existing FAT32 EFI System partition. So
On 05/10/2012 09:34 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On May 10, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I'd say almost certainly yes. AIUI on any EFI system there's only ever a
reason to have _one_ EFI system partition.
mactel-boot in effect creates an HFS+ /boot/efi partition, and does not use
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 01:53:19PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
New problem is that the successfully installed system (from LiveCD ISO
burned to DVD-RW media), upon reboot, does not eject the disc, rather
it boots from it not the HDD. When I reboot with option key at the
startup chime, I'm
On Apr 29, 2012, at 6:20 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 01:53:19PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
New problem is that the successfully installed system (from LiveCD ISO
burned to DVD-RW media), upon reboot, does not eject the disc, rather
it boots from it not the HDD.
On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
So, long story short - we'll be very interested in reports of
success/failure with TC2 (which should show up tonight or tomorrow)
DVD ISO burned to DVD-RW media: Boots EFI mode, with nouveau, with X, just fine
off media as the LiveCD
On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:58 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
There was an error installing the bootloader. The system may not be
bootable. System is in fact not bootable. Filed a bug with anaconda logs:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817225
Could be false alarm due to me unchecking
Dual boot Mac OS 10.7 + F17, MBP4,1.
Failure after partitioning/lvm/filesystem creation, and before copying live
image beings. Error message:
ext4 filesystem check failure on /dev/mapper/vg_f17s-lv_root:
File system errors left uncorrected.
remainder snipped
This is a 1 fail for 1 attempt,
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 02:11:06AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
Problem: Flakey reboot and poweroffs. CSM boot and installs were
lightening fast with previous FC17 builds. EFI boot reboots, after
executing command, result in a 1-2 minute hang. I can switch consoles,
but they are unresponsive
On Apr 28, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
This is a Radeon? We're doing something wrong in the DisplayPort setup,
and I'm trying to hunt it down - it seems to affect most modern Macs
with Radeons.
Yes, both Radeon and Intel Graphics are on that mDP port.
As for this:
On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
File system errors left uncorrected, failure to install along side Mac OS,
Mactel boot
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817262
This problem is not occurring when using the LiveCD ISO burned to DVD-RW media.
It's only occurring
On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:53 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
File system errors left uncorrected, failure to install along side Mac OS,
Mactel boot
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817262
I have updated this bug. Does not occur with
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:34 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 22:31 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
(Note: *DO NOT* run the installer that is on this image. You'll probably
end up with a broken grub. Should be fixed soon)
I've put a test image up at
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 22:31 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
(Note: *DO NOT* run the installer that is on this image. You'll probably
end up with a broken grub. Should be fixed soon)
I've put a test image up at
http://mjg59.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-Mac-EFI-test.iso - this should work
if
I get an md5 error when I try to make a live usb with fedora's
live-usb creator. Anyone else seen this?
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On Apr 24, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 07:08:39PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Apr 24, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Ok, I'll have to look at the CD issue. Can you report the initramfs
problem?
Yes. What component?
Put it against
On 04/24/2012 10:20 PM, John Reiser wrote:
Choosing the Windows logo gets a VGA-like display (black with white
character-cell text):
1.
2.
3.
Select CD-ROM Boot Type :
and there is no response to console keyboard. So FAIL again.
Even though this disc is wrong for that machine, so
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 01:39:20AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Ok, I'll have to look at the CD issue. Can you report the initramfs
problem?
Figured out the CD problem, I'll push a fix to git. Looking at the
initramfs problem now.
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(Note: *DO NOT* run the installer that is on this image. You'll probably
end up with a broken grub. Should be fixed soon)
I've put a test image up at
http://mjg59.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-Mac-EFI-test.iso - this should work
if burned to a CD or dded to a USB stick. Insert, hold down alt, select
Ok, once hitch with this. Due to an error on my part it's possible that
the Fedora logo option may not work. In that case, plesae try one of the
other EFI Boot options.
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On Apr 24, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
(Note: *DO NOT* run the installer that is on this image. You'll probably
end up with a broken grub. Should be fixed soon)
I've put a test image up at
http://mjg59.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-Mac-EFI-test.iso - this should work
if burned
Ok, I'll have to look at the CD issue. Can you report the initramfs
problem?
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On Apr 24, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Ok, I'll have to look at the CD issue. Can you report the initramfs
problem?
Yes. What component?
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On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 07:08:39PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Apr 24, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Ok, I'll have to look at the CD issue. Can you report the initramfs
problem?
Yes. What component?
Put it against the kernel for now, and we'll see if we can figure out
http://mjg59.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-Mac-EFI-test.iso
On Apple Macmini1,1 Intel Core Duo [i686 only] booted with DVD in builtin
drive and Alt held down: I get one EFI Boot with Fedora logo, and one
Windows with platter logo (and two harddrive logos, corresponding to
pre-existing resident OS).
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 07:20:00PM -0700, John Reiser wrote:
Booting with C key held down [no Shift; should force default CD/DVD choice]
gives the same as choosing Windows logo from booting with Alt held down.
FAIL the third time.
Which component should I file for bugzilla?
Ah, sorry, I
On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Yes. I'm mostly working on the netinst isos, and right now if you take
that and dd it onto a USB stick, then insert that and hold down alt on
boot, you'll get a Mac install. Unfortunately, alpha ended up getting
built with a grub that
Thanks for all your testing! It certainly seems like Fedora has quite a way
to go before it is possible to install on clean macs.
Have you done any testing using refit, or is this all with vanilla apple
efi?
On Mar 13, 2012 10:06 AM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:
On Feb 28,
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 03:06:31AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
EFI Boot= Grub prompt, no menu
Can you type root and see what it says, followed by findiso and then
root?
EFI Boot= Grub menu, loads from stick for ~45 seconds then reboots machine
That'll be a kernel bug of some description...
On Mar 13, 2012, at 7:10 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 03:06:31AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
EFI Boot= Grub prompt, no menu
Can you type root and see what it says, followed by findiso and then
root?
USB stick:
grub root
(hd0,2,a): Filesystem type unknown,
Detail version of previous post's in-line summary results.
Burned to DVD
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Four additional CD/DVD icon options labeled as: Windows, EFI Boot, EFI Boot,
EFI Boot
*2nd EFI Boot option has a custom Fedora logo icon, not generic CD/DVD icon.
1. Windows=
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 02:02:50PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Mar 13, 2012, at 7:10 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 03:06:31AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
EFI Boot= Grub prompt, no menu
Can you type root and see what it says, followed by findiso and then
On Mar 13, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
You pointed out that CSM installs don't work - the partition table is
entirely inappropriate for them. We're not planning on fixing that.
CSM boot from install media does work. CSM installations don't reboot
successfully, without manual
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 02:26:03PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
CSM boot from install media does work. CSM installations don't reboot
successfully, without manual creation of a hybrid MBR.
Yes, and support for handling and managing hybrid MBRs is difficult.
Apple can manage it by simply
On Mar 13, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Yes, and support for handling and managing hybrid MBRs is difficult.
Apple can manage it by simply constraining it to a very simple case.
Create more partitions and disk utility stops wanting to be your friend.
Trying to handle hybrid
On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Yes. I'm mostly working on the netinst isos, and right now if you take
that and dd it onto a USB stick, then insert that and hold down alt on
boot, you'll get a Mac install.
OK so color me extremely confused. Starting with a zero'd USB
Has there been any more tests getting F17 to boot on macs, with or without
refit? I would love to test, but if macs are not any target hardware for
fedora it would be pretty pointless.
/Andreas
On Dec 27, 2011 4:09 AM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:
On Dec 26, 2011, at 5:55 PM,
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 05:57:38PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
Has there been any more tests getting F17 to boot on macs, with or without
refit? I would love to test, but if macs are not any target hardware for
fedora it would be pretty pointless.
Yes, F17's current media should be pretty
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 05:22:22PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 05:57:38PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
Has there been any more tests getting F17 to boot on macs, with or without
refit? I would love to test, but if macs are not any target hardware for
fedora it would
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 17:57 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
Has there been any more tests getting F17 to boot on macs, with or
without refit? I would love to test, but if macs are not any target
hardware for fedora it would be pretty pointless.
I didn't really manage to make time to get anywhere
On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Chris Murphy is pretty active testing various things in regards to Mac
booting, and I've been meaning to get in touch and ask if he's taken a
look at F17 Alpha.
I just downloaded the LiveCD, installed it in VM so I can use the latest
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 12:23 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Chris Murphy is pretty active testing various things in regards to Mac
booting, and I've been meaning to get in touch and ask if he's taken a
look at F17 Alpha.
I just
Den 28 februari 2012 18:22 skrev Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org:
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 05:57:38PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
Has there been any more tests getting F17 to boot on macs, with or without
refit? I would love to test, but if macs are not any target hardware for
fedora it
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:34:22PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
Den 28 februari 2012 18:22 skrev Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org:
Yes, F17's current media should be pretty close to working.
Is this on native/basic Apple EFI, not reFit?
Yes. I'm mostly working on the netinst isos, and
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 19:53 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:34:22PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
Den 28 februari 2012 18:22 skrev Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org:
Yes, F17's current media should be pretty close to working.
Is this on native/basic Apple
On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Yes. I'm mostly working on the netinst isos, and right now if you take
that and dd it onto a USB stick, then insert that and hold down alt on
boot, you'll get a Mac install.
1.
Prior attempt, I mentioned at the very bottom of the email, easy to miss, was a
Macbook Pro 4,1 (2008) model.
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Attempt 2 with different hardware: Apple Macbook Pro 8,2 (2011).
1.
Starting with a USB stick produced with the following:
Starting with a USB stick produced with the following:
http://mirrors.yocum.org/fedora/releases/test/17-Alpha/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-17-Alpha-x86_64-netinst.iso
dd if=Fedora-17-Alpha-x86_64-netinst.iso of=/dev/rdisk1
I'm not sure if this is expected or not, but I make the following
On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
Starting with a USB stick produced with the following:
http://mirrors.yocum.org/fedora/releases/test/17-Alpha/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-17-Alpha-x86_64-netinst.iso
dd if=Fedora-17-Alpha-x86_64-netinst.iso of=/dev/rdisk1
I'm not sure if
Chris,
I got really frustrated with triple boot on Max OS X Lion. At one point I
had it working on snow leopard pretty well. After many frustrating hours spent
trying to get it setup I sold my MBA on eBay then bought a hp dm1 4050. The HP
is much faster and now I can boot Linux and windows
On Dec 26, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Todd V Orvieto wrote:
Chris,
I got really frustrated with triple boot on Max OS X Lion. At one point I
had it working on snow leopard pretty well.
A possible problem with Lion is not technically with Lion itself. When 10.7 is
installed, there is an additional
Responding to my own email on various boot behaviors, with some
editorialization.
EFI vs CSM-BIOS:
EFI boot produces highly variable results between Apple models, while CSM-BIOS
boot is very consistent between Apple models.
Windows 7 will not boot in UEFI mode on Apple hardware. I have
First post. I stumbled across this subject while performing an unrelated search.
I have found EFI booting Apple hardware is problematic on the two models I've
tested. I think these are kernel related problems that would need to be sorted
out to get a full boot and startup to a GUI login.
Volume 2
CSM-BIOS boot notes:
Apple hardware tested:
mbp41 = MacBookPro 4,1 (2008), Nvidia Geforce8600M GT.
mbp82 = MacBookPro 8,2 (2011), Intel HD Graphics 3000 and AMD Radeon HD 6750M.
All notes based on booting with the Apple-EFI option-key startup menu to choose
how to boot, not rEFIt.
2011/12/6 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com:
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:08 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
install of F16 on Macs. It does not seem to matter if you use boot
loaders such as reFit and Bootcamp or remove MacOS
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 20:32 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
It seems like the boot procedure has changed quite a bit from F15 to
F16, and not just the GRUB2 change. I am sure these were changed for
the best of reasons, but it is very frustrating to not be able to use
F16 on hardware that
On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 17:54 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 06:19:27PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
Yes, and the question becomes, can we make this easier in F17?
Yes, we can do EFI installs.
We could also blacklist all Apples to use MS-DOS partitions if you do a
BIOS
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 10:49:39AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 17:54 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 06:19:27PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
Yes, and the question becomes, can we make this easier in F17?
Yes, we can do EFI installs.
We
On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 19:16 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 10:49:39AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 17:54 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 06:19:27PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
Yes, and the question becomes, can we
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:08 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
install of F16 on Macs. It does not seem to matter if you use boot
loaders such as reFit and Bootcamp or remove MacOS completely and try
to boot. Apparently, if you
2011/12/2 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com:
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 21:39 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:21:49PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
We explicitly don't support native EFI installs on Macs, at the request
of the anaconda team, as Apple's EFI
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 06:19:27PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
Yes, and the question becomes, can we make this easier in F17?
Yes, we can do EFI installs.
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As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
install of F16 on Macs. It does not seem to matter if you use boot
loaders such as reFit and Bootcamp or remove MacOS completely and try
to boot. Apparently, if you somehow (how to use it is not very clear
from the Common F16
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:08 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
install of F16 on Macs.
I'm not entirely sure that's correct. We had several reports of
successful EFI installs of F16 in the relevant bug reports at RC stage.
What are
2011/12/2 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com:
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:08 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
install of F16 on Macs.
I'm not entirely sure that's correct. We had several reports of
successful EFI installs of F16
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 19:48 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
2011/12/2 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com:
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:08 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
install of F16 on Macs.
I'm not entirely sure that's
On 12/02/2011 10:20 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:08 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
install of F16 on Macs.
I'm not entirely sure that's correct. We had several reports of
successful EFI installs of F16
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 11:54 -0800, John Reiser wrote:
On 12/02/2011 10:20 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:08 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
install of F16 on Macs.
I'm not entirely sure that's
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 11:54 -0800, John Reiser wrote:
On 12/02/2011 10:20 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:08 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
install of F16 on Macs.
I'm not entirely sure that's
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:21:49PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
We explicitly don't support native EFI installs on Macs, at the request
of the anaconda team, as Apple's EFI implementation is hideous. Having
said that, I'm pretty sure at least a few people reported success on
Macs with the
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 21:39 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:21:49PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
We explicitly don't support native EFI installs on Macs, at the request
of the anaconda team, as Apple's EFI implementation is hideous. Having
said that, I'm pretty
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