On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 09:07 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> TC5 Live Desktop burned to actual media is not EFI bootable on MBP41.
> The only option for the media is "Windows". I'm not sure if this
> regression occurred in TC4 or TC5.
As noted in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810104 , th
Some feedback from a succefull installation of F17 TC4 on a Macbook Air 13"
(Model number A1369). Unfortunately the TC5 didn't boot. For TC4 we had to
change label grub option to LIVE in order to boot. Is this a typo?
Anaconda worked just fine and installation was completed succefully. Only
thing
TC5 Live Desktop burned to actual media is not EFI bootable on MBP41. The only
option for the media is "Windows". I'm not sure if this regression occurred in
TC4 or TC5.
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On May 10, 2012, at 10:52 PM, John Reiser wrote:
> On 05/10/2012 09:34 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On May 10, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
>>> I'd say almost certainly yes. AIUI on any EFI system there's only ever a
>>> reason to have _one_ EFI system partition.
>
>> mactel-boot in
> "EFI install from DVD forgets previous EFI boot"
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=809963#c7
> "As far as sharing the same /boot/efi directory between installs, we don't
> support that -- a new copy of the grub.efi binary is written as well as a
> new
> grub.conf."
>
I
On 05/10/2012 09:34 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On May 10, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> I'd say almost certainly yes. AIUI on any EFI system there's only ever a
>> reason to have _one_ EFI system partition.
> mactel-boot in effect creates an HFS+ /boot/efi partition, and does not use
On May 10, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> I'd say almost certainly yes. AIUI on any EFI system there's only ever a
> reason to have _one_ EFI system partition.
mactel-boot in effect creates an HFS+ /boot/efi partition, and does not use the
existing FAT32 EFI System partition. So the
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 15:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Is this a bug? If so I'll file it.
>
> When performing Replace Existing installation types, the 200MB HFS+ partition
> used for /boot/efi is not replaced. Instead, a new one is created each time.
>
> So if I perform five (5) Replace Existi
Is this a bug? If so I'll file it.
When performing Replace Existing installation types, the 200MB HFS+ partition
used for /boot/efi is not replaced. Instead, a new one is created each time.
So if I perform five (5) Replace Existing installation types after the first
Fedora install, I end up wi
On Apr 29, 2012, at 6:20 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 01:53:19PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>> New problem is that the successfully installed system (from LiveCD ISO
>> burned to DVD-RW media), upon reboot, does not eject the disc, rather
>> it boots from it not the H
On Apr 29, 2012, at 6:20 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 01:53:19PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>> New problem is that the successfully installed system (from LiveCD ISO
>> burned to DVD-RW media), upon reboot, does not eject the disc, rather
>> it boots from it not the H
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 01:53:19PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> New problem is that the successfully installed system (from LiveCD ISO
> burned to DVD-RW media), upon reboot, does not eject the disc, rather
> it boots from it not the HDD. When I reboot with option key at the
> startup chime, I'
On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:53 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>> File system errors left uncorrected, failure to install along side Mac OS,
>> Mactel boot
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817262
I have updated this bug. Does not occur w
On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> File system errors left uncorrected, failure to install along side Mac OS,
> Mactel boot
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817262
This problem is not occurring when using the LiveCD ISO burned to DVD-RW media.
It's only occurring w
On Apr 28, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> This is a Radeon? We're doing something wrong in the DisplayPort setup,
> and I'm trying to hunt it down - it seems to affect most modern Macs
> with Radeons.
Yes, both Radeon and Intel Graphics are on that mDP port.
As for this:
> https:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 02:11:06AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Problem: Flakey reboot and poweroffs. CSM boot and installs were
> lightening fast with previous FC17 builds. EFI boot reboots, after
> executing command, result in a 1-2 minute hang. I can switch consoles,
> but they are unrespons
Dual boot Mac OS 10.7 + F17, MBP4,1.
Failure after partitioning/lvm/filesystem creation, and before copying live
image beings. Error message:
"ext4 filesystem check failure on /dev/mapper/vg_f17s-lv_root:
File system errors left uncorrected.
"
This is a 1 fail for 1 attempt, with this configur
On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:58 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> "There was an error installing the bootloader. The system may not be
> bootable." System is in fact not bootable. Filed a bug with anaconda logs:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817225
Could be false alarm due to me unchecki
On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> So, long story short - we'll be very interested in reports of
> success/failure with TC2 (which should show up tonight or tomorrow)
DVD ISO burned to DVD-RW media: Boots EFI mode, with nouveau, with X, just fine
off media as the LiveCD cas
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:34 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 22:31 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > (Note: *DO NOT* run the installer that is on this image. You'll probably
> > end up with a broken grub. Should be fixed soon)
> >
> > I've put a test image up at
> > http://mj
I get an md5 error when I try to make a live usb with fedora's
live-usb creator. Anyone else seen this?
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On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 22:31 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> (Note: *DO NOT* run the installer that is on this image. You'll probably
> end up with a broken grub. Should be fixed soon)
>
> I've put a test image up at
> http://mjg59.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-Mac-EFI-test.iso - this should work
> if
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 01:39:20AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Ok, I'll have to look at the CD issue. Can you report the initramfs
> problem?
Figured out the CD problem, I'll push a fix to git. Looking at the
initramfs problem now.
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On 04/24/2012 10:20 PM, John Reiser wrote:
Choosing the Windows logo gets a VGA-like display (black with white
character-cell text):
1.
2.
3.
Select CD-ROM Boot Type :
and there is no response to console keyboard. So FAIL again.
Even though this disc is wrong for that machine, so th
On Apr 24, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 07:08:39PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 24, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, I'll have to look at the CD issue. Can you report the initramfs
>>> problem?
>>
>> Yes. What component?
>
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 07:20:00PM -0700, John Reiser wrote:
> Booting with C key held down [no Shift; should force "default" CD/DVD choice]
> gives the same as choosing Windows logo from booting with Alt held down.
> FAIL the third time.
>
> Which component should I file for bugzilla?
Ah, sorry
> http://mjg59.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-Mac-EFI-test.iso
On Apple Macmini1,1 Intel Core Duo [i686 only] booted with DVD in builtin
drive and Alt held down: I get one EFI Boot with Fedora logo, and one
Windows with platter logo (and two harddrive logos, corresponding to
pre-existing resident OS).
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 07:08:39PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On Apr 24, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>
> > Ok, I'll have to look at the CD issue. Can you report the initramfs
> > problem?
>
> Yes. What component?
Put it against the kernel for now, and we'll see if we can figur
On Apr 24, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Ok, I'll have to look at the CD issue. Can you report the initramfs
> problem?
Yes. What component?
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Ok, I'll have to look at the CD issue. Can you report the initramfs
problem?
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On Apr 24, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> (Note: *DO NOT* run the installer that is on this image. You'll probably
> end up with a broken grub. Should be fixed soon)
>
> I've put a test image up at
> http://mjg59.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-Mac-EFI-test.iso - this should work
> if bur
Ok, once hitch with this. Due to an error on my part it's possible that
the Fedora logo option may not work. In that case, plesae try one of the
other "EFI Boot" options.
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(Note: *DO NOT* run the installer that is on this image. You'll probably
end up with a broken grub. Should be fixed soon)
I've put a test image up at
http://mjg59.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-Mac-EFI-test.iso - this should work
if burned to a CD or dded to a USB stick. Insert, hold down alt, select
On Mar 13, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Yes, and support for handling and managing hybrid MBRs is difficult.
> Apple can manage it by simply constraining it to a very simple case.
> Create more partitions and disk utility stops wanting to be your friend.
> Trying to handle hybrid
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 02:26:03PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> CSM boot from install media does work. CSM installations don't reboot
> successfully, without manual creation of a hybrid MBR.
Yes, and support for handling and managing hybrid MBRs is difficult.
Apple can manage it by simply const
On Mar 13, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>
> You pointed out that CSM installs don't work - the partition table is
> entirely inappropriate for them. We're not planning on fixing that.
CSM boot from install media does work. CSM installations don't reboot
successfully, without manu
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 02:02:50PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Mar 13, 2012, at 7:10 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 03:06:31AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> >> EFI Boot= Grub prompt, no menu
> >
> > Can you type "root" and see what it says, followed by "findiso"
Detail version of previous post's in-line summary results.
Burned to DVD
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Four additional CD/DVD icon options labeled as: Windows, EFI Boot, EFI Boot,
EFI Boot
*2nd EFI Boot option has a custom Fedora logo icon, not generic CD/DVD icon.
1. Windows= Boot
On Mar 13, 2012, at 7:10 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 03:06:31AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>> EFI Boot= Grub prompt, no menu
>
> Can you type "root" and see what it says, followed by "findiso" and then
> "root"?
USB stick:
grub> root
(hd0,2,a): Filesystem type unkn
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 03:06:31AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> EFI Boot= Grub prompt, no menu
Can you type "root" and see what it says, followed by "findiso" and then
"root"?
> EFI Boot= Grub menu, loads from stick for ~45 seconds then reboots machine
That'll be a kernel bug of some descripti
Thanks for all your testing! It certainly seems like Fedora has quite a way
to go before it is possible to install on "clean" macs.
Have you done any testing using refit, or is this all with vanilla apple
efi?
On Mar 13, 2012 10:06 AM, "Chris Murphy" wrote:
>
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:53 PM, M
On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Yes. I'm mostly working on the netinst isos, and right now if you take
> that and dd it onto a USB stick, then insert that and hold down alt on
> boot, you'll get a Mac install. Unfortunately, alpha ended up getting
> built with a grub that
On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Yes. I'm mostly working on the netinst isos, and right now if you take
> that and dd it onto a USB stick, then insert that and hold down alt on
> boot, you'll get a Mac install.
OK so color me extremely confused. Starting with a zero'd USB
On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> Starting with a USB stick produced with the following:
>> http://mirrors.yocum.org/fedora/releases/test/17-Alpha/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-17-Alpha-x86_64-netinst.iso
>>
>> dd if=Fedora-17-Alpha-x86_64-netinst.iso of=/dev/rdisk1
>
> I'm not
>
> Starting with a USB stick produced with the following:
> http://mirrors.yocum.org/fedora/releases/test/17-Alpha/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-17-Alpha-x86_64-netinst.iso
>
> dd if=Fedora-17-Alpha-x86_64-netinst.iso of=/dev/rdisk1
I'm not sure if this is expected or not, but I make the following o
Prior attempt, I mentioned at the very bottom of the email, easy to miss, was a
Macbook Pro 4,1 (2008) model.
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Attempt 2 with different hardware: Apple Macbook Pro 8,2 (2011).
1.
Starting with a USB stick produced with the following:
http://mirrors.yocum.org/fedora/releases/test
On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>
> Yes. I'm mostly working on the netinst isos, and right now if you take
> that and dd it onto a USB stick, then insert that and hold down alt on
> boot, you'll get a Mac install.
1.
http://mirrors.yocum.org/fedora/releases/test/17-Alpha/
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 19:53 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:34:22PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> > Den 28 februari 2012 18:22 skrev Matthew Garrett :
> > > Yes, F17's current media should be pretty close to working.
> > >
> >
> > Is this on native/basic Apple EFI, not r
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:34:22PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> Den 28 februari 2012 18:22 skrev Matthew Garrett :
> > Yes, F17's current media should be pretty close to working.
> >
>
> Is this on native/basic Apple EFI, not reFit?
Yes. I'm mostly working on the netinst isos, and right now if y
Den 28 februari 2012 18:22 skrev Matthew Garrett :
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 05:57:38PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
>> Has there been any more tests getting F17 to boot on macs, with or without
>> refit? I would love to test, but if macs are not any target hardware for
>> fedora it would be pretty
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 12:23 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >
> > Chris Murphy is pretty active testing various things in regards to Mac
> > booting, and I've been meaning to get in touch and ask if he's taken a
> > look at F17 Alpha.
>
> I j
On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> Chris Murphy is pretty active testing various things in regards to Mac
> booting, and I've been meaning to get in touch and ask if he's taken a
> look at F17 Alpha.
I just downloaded the LiveCD, installed it in VM so I can use the latest
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 17:57 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> Has there been any more tests getting F17 to boot on macs, with or
> without refit? I would love to test, but if macs are not any target
> hardware for fedora it would be pretty pointless.
I didn't really manage to make time to get anywhere
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 05:22:22PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 05:57:38PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> > Has there been any more tests getting F17 to boot on macs, with or without
> > refit? I would love to test, but if macs are not any target hardware for
> > fedora it
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 05:57:38PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> Has there been any more tests getting F17 to boot on macs, with or without
> refit? I would love to test, but if macs are not any target hardware for
> fedora it would be pretty pointless.
Yes, F17's current media should be pretty cl
Has there been any more tests getting F17 to boot on macs, with or without
refit? I would love to test, but if macs are not any target hardware for
fedora it would be pretty pointless.
/Andreas
On Dec 27, 2011 4:09 AM, "Chris Murphy" wrote:
>
> On Dec 26, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Todd V Orvieto wrote:
On Dec 26, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Todd V Orvieto wrote:
> Chris,
> I got really frustrated with triple boot on Max OS X Lion. At one point I
> had it working on snow leopard pretty well.
A possible problem with Lion is not technically with Lion itself. When 10.7 is
installed, there is an addition
Chris,
I got really frustrated with triple boot on Max OS X Lion. At one point I
had it working on snow leopard pretty well. After many frustrating hours spent
trying to get it setup I sold my MBA on eBay then bought a hp dm1 4050. The HP
is much faster and now I can boot Linux and windows m
Responding to my own email on various boot behaviors, with some
editorialization.
EFI vs CSM-BIOS:
EFI boot produces highly variable results between Apple models, while CSM-BIOS
boot is very consistent between Apple models.
Windows 7 will not boot in UEFI mode on Apple hardware. I have searche
Volume 2
CSM-BIOS boot notes:
Apple hardware tested:
mbp41 = MacBookPro 4,1 (2008), Nvidia Geforce8600M GT.
mbp82 = MacBookPro 8,2 (2011), Intel HD Graphics 3000 and AMD Radeon HD 6750M.
All notes based on booting with the Apple-EFI option-key startup menu to choose
how to boot, not rEFIt.
1.
First post. I stumbled across this subject while performing an unrelated search.
I have found EFI booting Apple hardware is problematic on the two models I've
tested. I think these are kernel related problems that would need to be sorted
out to get a full boot and startup to a GUI login. CSM-BIO
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 20:32 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> >> It seems like the boot procedure has changed quite a bit from F15 to
> >> F16, and not just the GRUB2 change. I am sure these were changed for
> >> the best of reasons, but it is very frustrating to not be able to use
> >> F16 on hardwar
2011/12/6 Adam Williamson :
> On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:08 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
>> As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
>> install of F16 on Macs. It does not seem to matter if you use boot
>> loaders such as reFit and Bootcamp or remove MacOS completely and t
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:08 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
> install of F16 on Macs. It does not seem to matter if you use boot
> loaders such as reFit and Bootcamp or remove MacOS completely and try
> to boot. Apparently, if you
On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 19:16 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 10:49:39AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 17:54 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > > On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 06:19:27PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes, and the question become
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 10:49:39AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 17:54 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 06:19:27PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, and the question becomes, can we make this easier in F17?
> >
> > Yes, we can do EFI insta
On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 17:54 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 06:19:27PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
>
> > Yes, and the question becomes, can we make this easier in F17?
>
> Yes, we can do EFI installs.
We could also blacklist all Apples to use MS-DOS partitions if you do a
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 06:19:27PM +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> Yes, and the question becomes, can we make this easier in F17?
Yes, we can do EFI installs.
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2011/12/2 Adam Williamson :
> On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 21:39 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:21:49PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> > We explicitly don't support native EFI installs on Macs, at the request
>> > of the anaconda team, as Apple's EFI implementation is hideou
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 21:39 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:21:49PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > We explicitly don't support native EFI installs on Macs, at the request
> > of the anaconda team, as Apple's EFI implementation is hideous. Having
> > said that, I'm pret
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:21:49PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> We explicitly don't support native EFI installs on Macs, at the request
> of the anaconda team, as Apple's EFI implementation is hideous. Having
> said that, I'm pretty sure at least a few people reported success on
> Macs with the
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 11:54 -0800, John Reiser wrote:
> On 12/02/2011 10:20 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:08 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> >> As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
> >> install of F16 on Macs.
>
> > I'm not entirely sure tha
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 11:54 -0800, John Reiser wrote:
> On 12/02/2011 10:20 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:08 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> >> As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
> >> install of F16 on Macs.
>
> > I'm not entirely sure tha
On 12/02/2011 10:20 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:08 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
>> As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
>> install of F16 on Macs.
> I'm not entirely sure that's correct. We had several reports of
> successful EFI installs o
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 19:48 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> 2011/12/2 Adam Williamson :
> > On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:08 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> >> As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
> >> install of F16 on Macs.
> >
> > I'm not entirely sure that's correct. We
2011/12/2 Adam Williamson :
> On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:08 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
>> As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
>> install of F16 on Macs.
>
> I'm not entirely sure that's correct. We had several reports of
> successful EFI installs of F16 in the relev
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:08 +0100, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
> install of F16 on Macs.
I'm not entirely sure that's correct. We had several reports of
successful EFI installs of F16 in the relevant bug reports at RC stage.
What ar
As you all might know, it is currently impossible to boot the default
install of F16 on Macs. It does not seem to matter if you use boot
loaders such as reFit and Bootcamp or remove MacOS completely and try
to boot. Apparently, if you somehow (how to use it is not very clear
from the "Common F16 bu
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