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#topic #699 Proposal to remove the
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 08:07 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
Kevin Fenzi wrote on 27.02.2012 04:21:
#topic #810 Clarify our position on forks .fesco 810
It's just a statement that is asked for in the ticket, but nevertheless:
Shouldn't issues like this be discussed on this list first, so
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 08:14:13AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
Personally, my stance on this is that, provided that the forks are
properly renamed such that they will not conflict with other forks of
the same codebase, there's no reason to disallow them. As mentioned by
Toshio in the
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 08:14:13AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
Personally, my stance on this is that, provided that the forks are
properly renamed such that they will not conflict with other forks of
the same
Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) said:
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 08:14:13AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
Personally, my stance on this is that, provided that the forks are
properly renamed such that they will not
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#topic #799 Issues with maintainer
Kevin Fenzi wrote on 27.02.2012 04:21:
#topic #810 Clarify our position on forks .fesco 810
It's just a statement that is asked for in the ticket, but nevertheless:
Shouldn't issues like this be discussed on this list first, so FESCo
members can get a impression from the flamewar ^w discussion
Dne 23.1.2012 03:40, Cole Robinson napsal(a):
On 01/22/2012 07:44 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
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On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 08:27 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Since feature freeze is tomorrow, I'd like to see us finish all of them
Just to clarify, in case anyone just had a heart-attack, tomorrow is the
Feature Submission Deadline, *not* the Feature Freeze.
According to
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:33:21 -0500
Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 08:27 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Since feature freeze is tomorrow, I'd like to see us finish all of
them
Just to clarify, in case anyone just had a heart-attack, tomorrow is
the Feature
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:26:26 +0100
Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote:
Dne 23.1.2012 03:40, Cole Robinson napsal(a):
Hi Kevin,
I filed a feature page 2 Fridays ago that's been sitting in
ReadyForWrangler since:
Here is another feature which is belated ReadyForWrangler:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OpenStack_Essex
Rich.
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libguestfs lets you edit virtual machines. Supports shell scripting,
bindings from many
Here are two more in ReadyForWrangler state:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/firewalld-default
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/network-zones
Thanks,
Thomas
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 22:07:31 +0100
Thomas Woerner twoer...@redhat.com wrote:
Here are two more in ReadyForWrangler state:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/firewalld-default
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/network-zones
The _submission_ deadline is tomorrow. ;)
We will get
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#topic sponsor request - sdake
.fesco 724
=
On 01/22/2012 07:44 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
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2012/1/15 Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz:
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One more thing that may be added to the agenda if there is enough time left:
#topic #724 sponsor
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#topic #742 F17
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#topic #663 Late F16
On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 12:24 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) said:
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I thought the decision at
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* #531 Orphaned package ownership claiming clarification (sgallagh,
17:40:47)
* AGREED: Policy will change to If a package is in orphan state in
pkgdb, feel free to take it and revivie it, no re-review needed. If
it's depreciated, you must re-review and get admins to unblock it
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#topic #563 suggested policy: all daemons
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 02:21:36PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
I played briefly with jamming relro into ghc command line options, and
you can kind of do it (-optl-z -optlrelro -optlc-Wl,z,relro in
ghc-options), but it doesn't change much on its own. You do end up with
an executable with a
On 6/24/11 3:31 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
I don't think GHC generates C (it used to, a very long time ago). GHC
and OCaml contain code generators that generate machine code directly.
So this could require changes to the code generator, but at least for
RELRO it seems this is just a
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 05:16:12PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
and compiling it. In this case, -z relro on its own will not help: the
address of the 'exit' function isn't known until it's first called,
because function resolution is normally done lazily, and because the
'exit' symbol is not
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 03:57:58PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
* #563 suggested policy: all daemons must set RELRO and PIE flags
(ajax, 17:53:41)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/93 (nirik, 17:54:34)
* ACTION: nirik to come up with guidelines for next week (ajax,
* #607 F16Feature: Perl 5.14 (ajax, 18:09:12)
* AGREED: feature is approved (ajax, 18:12:27)
For the record the pending feature is about Trusted boot:
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/608
* AGREED: feature is tentatively declined pending demonstration that
it works without
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 03:57:58PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
* #563 suggested policy: all daemons must set RELRO and PIE flags
(ajax, 17:53:41)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/93 (nirik, 17:54:34)
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 09:54 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 03:57:58PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
* #563 suggested policy: all daemons must set RELRO and PIE flags
(ajax, 17:53:41)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/93 (nirik, 17:54:34)
* ACTION:
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#topic whenisgood followup
#topic systemd
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 21:56 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
As I say let's put the goal a bit higher and aim atleast for all those
service on the livecd
Any other goals/plans the sysvtosystemd features owners should be aware
of?
Stephen care to give us a heads up?
I've
On 06/15/2011 06:25 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
* Open Floor (nirik, 18:07:26)
* ACTION: sgallagh will collect base / core packages that need
conversion to systemd and we will try and get those done by alpha.
(nirik, 18:20:43)
Can I ask why FESCO decided to ignore the feature
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 18:58 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
On 06/15/2011 06:25 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
* Open Floor (nirik, 18:07:26)
* ACTION: sgallagh will collect base / core packages that need
conversion to systemd and we will try and get those done by alpha.
(nirik,
On 06/15/2011 07:42 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 18:58 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
On 06/15/2011 06:25 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
* Open Floor (nirik, 18:07:26)
* ACTION: sgallagh will collect base / core packages that need
conversion to systemd and we will
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#topic #563 suggested policy: all daemons must
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
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On 06/08/2011 03:59 PM, Josef Bacik wrote:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
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#topic #563 suggested policy: all daemons must
Messaggio originale
Da: Peter Robinson
Inviato: 01/06/2011, 22:41
A: Development discussions related to Fedora
Oggetto: Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2011-06-01)
On 1 Jun 2011 19:44, Josef Bacik jo...@toxicpanda.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 04:15:59PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
I will be unable to attend tomorrow but I have concerns of making btrfs
default without a well tested fsck. I'm aware one is due soon but I don't
believe 3-4 months is enough time to test it well enough. On 2.6.38.x I
still get
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 04:15:59PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
I will be unable to attend tomorrow but I have concerns of making btrfs
default without a well tested fsck. I'm aware one is due soon but I don't
believe
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 12:44:46PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Josef Bacik jo...@toxicpanda.com said:
These sort of issues are my priority and I've spent the last 2 months
specifically working on the kvm performance differences between ext4
and btrfs. Now we're not on par
Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com said:
Maybe I'm not understanding your question correctly, but a filesystem
is more general than LVM. You can create directories corresponding to
your current VGs and files for your LVs, with the advantage that you
can nest directories
I will be unable to attend tomorrow but I have concerns of making btrfs
default without a well tested fsck. I'm aware one is due soon but I don't
believe 3-4 months is enough time to test it well enough. On 2.6.38.x I
still get regular kernel abrt crashes on resume. Is it even marked stable in
the
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
I will be unable to attend tomorrow but I have concerns of making btrfs
default without a well tested fsck. I'm aware one is due soon but I don't
believe 3-4 months is enough time to test it well enough. On 2.6.38.x I
On 1 Jun 2011 19:44, Josef Bacik jo...@toxicpanda.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com
wrote:
I will be unable to attend tomorrow but I have concerns of making btrfs
default without a well tested fsck. I'm aware one is due soon but I
don't
believe
Peter Robinson wrote:
Yes. Well at least I've submitted them using abrt to wherever is sends
the kernel crash dumps. Not done a manual separate bug though.
If you add the BZ#s here or CC Josef on them I'm sure he'd be glad to help.
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#topic #563 suggested policy: all daemons must
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#topic #515 Investigate a features repo for
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#topic #515 Investigate a features repo for
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#topic #515 Investigate a features repo for
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2011-04-27)
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#topic #515 Investigate a features repo for
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#topic #515 Investigate a features repo for
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#topic #515 Investigate a features repo for
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#topic #515 Investigate a features repo for
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#topic #516 Updates policy
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#topic #516 Updates policy
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#topic #516 Updates policy
Hi,
2011/2/22 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com:
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:55:26 +0100
Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
...snip...
#544 List of services that may start by default
.fesco 544
Please post a log after the meeting
I always do. ;)
Note that I wasn't sure if we are even going to discuss that this week,
as
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#topic #516 Updates policy
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:14:46 +0100
Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote:
Make sense, I try to find some spare time to look on it. Not feeling
well today so...
No hurry. :)
But my first dumb question is - what's the current state of stable
updates policy? Is it implemented already as
On 01/11/2011 08:59 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
#topic #515 Investigate a features repo for stable releases
.fesco 515
I think this is a good direction to take for those that want more
*Bleeding edge/Next release* stuff on a stable release as in having
technology preview/feature repos.
What I
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:59:08 -0700
Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
...snip...
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e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
the open
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#508 improve the general standard of packagers/maintainers in the distribution.
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/508
#515
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
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This meeting will have newly elected Fesco Members as well as outgoing
On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 11:38:05AM -0500, Steven Parrish wrote:
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this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco,
e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
the open floor topic.
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 01:18:54AM -0500, Genes MailLists wrote:
On 11/25/2010 01:13 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
http://oswatershed.org/
Hmm some interesting data there and some looks wrong to me:
I see openssh at 5.5p1 not 5.0p1. but some like apache ours is lagging
by quite a bit
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
Adam Jackson (a...@redhat.com) said:
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 13:05 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
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On 11/22/2010 09:44 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
On 11/22/2010 04:21 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi,
On 11/22/2010 12:59 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
It seems like what you want is actually not to have three releases at a
time at all but to have one and update it constantly. And I actually
On 11/22/2010 01:23 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
On 11/22/2010 09:44 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
... rolling releases ...
Interesting website - may be useful in thinking about the release
cycle ... or not :-)
http://oswatershed.org/
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On 11/25/2010 01:13 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
On 11/22/2010 01:23 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
On 11/22/2010 09:44 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
... rolling releases ...
Interesting website - may be useful in thinking about the release
cycle ... or not :-)
http://oswatershed.org/
Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 10:21 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
So taking for example the much much discussed KDE rebases. I think that
doing a KDE rebase for Fedora #+1 is a no brainer, for Fedora # is fine
as long as it is properly tested and for Fedora #-1 KDE should NOT be
Till Maas wrote:
It is totally annoying and time consuming to hit fixed bugs again, just
because the update has not been pushed from testing to stable. I cannot
really imagine that I am the only one experiencing this ever and ever
again. E.g. just today when I wanted to debug f-e-k on the F14
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 18:32 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Note that Fedora #-2 does not fit into this view for things at all,
Fedora #-2 is meant to allow people to skip a Fedora release. But in
practice I think this works out badly, because a relatively new Fedora
release like Fedora 14
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 18:30UTC (1:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
= Followups =
#topic Updates policy
#351 Create a policy for updates - status report on implementation
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/351
On 11/23/10 12:16 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:39:02AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
On 11/22/2010 11:18 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
They said that they install a Fedora for testing
purposes when it first comes out and enjoy the rapid pace of bugfixes as
they test the
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 13:05 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 18:30UTC (1:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
I'm not going to be able to make this, I'll be on the road for
Thanksgiving.
- ajax
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Adam Jackson (a...@redhat.com) said:
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 13:05 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 18:30UTC (1:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
I'm not going to be able to make this, I'll be
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:39, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
On 11/22/2010 11:18 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
They said that they install a Fedora for testing
purposes when it first comes out and enjoy the rapid pace of bugfixes as
they test the software in their environment. Then,
Hi,
On 11/22/2010 12:59 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 23:04 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
In short: Want higher-quality updates for previous releases? Then push
version upgrades wherever possible (even and especially for libraries, as
long as they're ABI-compatible or can be
On 21 November 2010 18:10, Adam Williamson awilliam redhat.com wrote:
If I were a KDE user running F12 I'd feel very
unsafe knowing someone was happily pushing updates of the entire
environment who did not even have a running F12 machine.
I am such a user and I have no such feeling :-) but
Adam Williamson wrote:
But the fact remains that *right now*, this is what Fedora is. I think
that it makes sense to commit to being whatever we are fully. Right now,
we're a stable release distribution; we should work to make those
releases properly stable, to actually be what we represent
On 11/22/2010 04:21 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi,
On 11/22/2010 12:59 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
It seems like what you want is actually not to have three releases at a
time at all but to have one and update it constantly. And I actually
rather suspect that would be a model that would work
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 14:13 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
I DON'T want to get an upgrade such as the one from KDE 3 to 4, the one from
Amarok 1 to 2, the one from KDevelop 3 to 4, the one from GNOME 2 to 3 etc.
as a regular update! Those are what new releases are for! (And there's your
clear
On 11/22/2010 09:44 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
repo.
* Whenever we move a bunch of packages from staging to
stable we raise the minor number to M.(n+1). Larger
changes may require major number bump if deemed
appropriate (e.g.
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 13:23 -0500, Genes MailLists wrote:
* A major version should be imposed every 6 months if it
has not for some reason.
Why? Your idea of tying version bumps to actual changes in the product
rather than an arbitrary timeline is an interesting one,
On 11/22/2010 01:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 13:23 -0500, Genes MailLists wrote:
* A major version should be imposed every 6 months if it
has not for some reason.
Why? Your idea of tying version bumps to actual changes in the product
rather
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