Re: Upcoming Fedora 14 Linux Release

2010-08-16 Thread M A Young
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Kevin Kofler wrote:

 ...
 So I'd suggest to use a
 currently supported Fedora release (12 or 13) with the unofficial Dom0
 kernel RPMs out there (built for F12, I don't know if they work on F13).

The kernel seems to work okay on F13 and even F14, though I haven't tested 
it extensively.

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Upcoming Fedora 14 Linux Release

2010-08-15 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) of Singapore
Dear All,

May I know whether the upcoming F14 release will include support for Xen 
pv-ops Dom0 kernel?

Thank you very much.

Yours sincerely,

Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Citizenship: Singapore Citizen/Singaporean
Facebook account:http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10750083982
Location: Bedok Reservoir Road, Singapore 470103
My Open Letter (Plea for Medical Help/Assistance) to World Leaders:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-August/380213.html


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Re: Upcoming Fedora 14 Linux Release

2010-08-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 22:07:47 +0800
Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) of Singapore
space.time.unive...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All,
 
 May I know whether the upcoming F14 release will include support for
 Xen pv-ops Dom0 kernel?
 
 Thank you very much.

No, I don't think so. 

There is an experemental dom0 kernel available however from: 
http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/myoung/dom0-kernel/

There's a feature: 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XenPvopsDom0
which is NOT in f14. 

You may want to mail myo...@fedoraproject.org directly for more
details. 

kevin


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Re: Upcoming Fedora 14 Linux Release

2010-08-15 Thread M A Young
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) of Singapore wrote:

 May I know whether the upcoming F14 release will include support for Xen 
 pv-ops Dom0 kernel?

No. The Fedora policy isn't to include dom0 support until it makes it into 
the upstream kernel. Some pieces have made it into 2.6.36 pre-rc but more 
are required before dom0 will work. It might be in f15 if 2.6.37 is out in 
time and if dom0 support is in it, though f16 or later is more likely.

Note that in the f14 and rawhide xen package xm and possibly xend 
are currently broken due to python 2.6-2.7 changes in xmlrpc.

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Re: Upcoming Fedora 14 Linux Release

2010-08-15 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) of Singapore
Dear M A Young,

Thank you for your prompt reply and updates.

I will stick to Fedora 11 at the moment until Fedora 16 or later.

Thank you very much.

Yours sincerely,

Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Citizenship: Singapore Citizen/Singaporean
Facebook account:http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10750083982
Location: Bedok Reservoir Road, Singapore 470103
My Open Letter (Plea for Medical Help/Assistance) to World Leaders:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-August/380213.html




On 08/16/2010 05:14 AM, M A Young wrote:
 On Sun, 15 Aug 2010, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) of Singapore wrote:


 May I know whether the upcoming F14 release will include support for Xen
 pv-ops Dom0 kernel?
  
 No. The Fedora policy isn't to include dom0 support until it makes it into
 the upstream kernel. Some pieces have made it into 2.6.36 pre-rc but more
 are required before dom0 will work. It might be in f15 if 2.6.37 is out in
 time and if dom0 support is in it, though f16 or later is more likely.

 Note that in the f14 and rawhide xen package xm and possibly xend
 are currently broken due to python 2.6-2.7 changes in xmlrpc.

   Michael Young


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Re: Upcoming Fedora 14 Linux Release

2010-08-15 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) of Singapore
Dear Kevin Fenzi,

Michael Young has already replied.

Thank you very much.

Yours sincerely,

Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Citizenship: Singapore Citizen/Singaporean
Facebook account:http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10750083982
Location: Bedok Reservoir Road, Singapore 470103
My Open Letter (Plea for Medical Help/Assistance) to World Leaders:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-August/380213.html



On 08/16/2010 04:29 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 22:07:47 +0800
 Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) of Singapore
 space.time.unive...@gmail.com  wrote:


 Dear All,

 May I know whether the upcoming F14 release will include support for
 Xen pv-ops Dom0 kernel?

 Thank you very much.
  
 No, I don't think so.

 There is an experemental dom0 kernel available however from:
 http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/myoung/dom0-kernel/

 There's a feature:
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XenPvopsDom0
 which is NOT in f14.

 You may want to mail myo...@fedoraproject.org directly for more
 details.

 kevin


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Re: Upcoming Fedora 14 Linux Release

2010-08-15 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) of Singapore wrote:
 I will stick to Fedora 11 at the moment until Fedora 16 or later.

Uh, Fedora 11 is not supported anymore and it also never had a Xen Dom0 
kernel, pvops or otherwise. The last Fedora release to ship a Xen Dom0 
kernel was Fedora 8, and that was from the old Xen codebase which was 
rejected upstream. The Fedora kernel team stopped shipping the classic Xen 
at that point because they didn't want to spend their time porting non-
upstream patchsets to the current upstream kernel (and in fact F8's kernel-
xen lagged significantly behind the main kernel). Xen pvops DomU support was 
ready for F9, but Dom0 support is taking its time to get upstreamed (and the 
Fedora kernel team does not want to use non-upstream patchsets for the same 
reasons they stopped shipping classic Xen). So I'd suggest to use a 
currently supported Fedora release (12 or 13) with the unofficial Dom0 
kernel RPMs out there (built for F12, I don't know if they work on F13).

Kevin Kofler

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Re: Upcoming Fedora 14 Linux Release

2010-08-15 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) of Singapore
Dear Kevin Kofler,

You may wish to check out my Youtube videos at 
http://www.youtube.com/user/enmingteo for my Xen pv-ops Dom0 kernels and 
also VGA passthrough which were implemented in my Fedora 11 x86_64 home 
multimedia desktop tower system (at the time of this writing, there are 
20 uploaded videos in my Youtube account).

You may also wish to read my open letter for details on how I managed to 
get Xen pv-ops dom0 kernels installed into Fedora 11 (extremely 
technical). You will have to dig through my postings at the Xen-devel 
mailing list from July 2009 to November 2009.

Please click the following internet link for my open letter.

http://lists.mcs.anl.gov/pipermail/mpich-discuss/2010-August/007693.html

Yours sincerely,

Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Citizenship: Singapore Citizen/Singaporean
Facebook account:http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10750083982
Location: Bedok Reservoir Road, Singapore 470103
My Open Letter (Plea for Medical Help/Assistance) to World Leaders:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-August/380213.html




On 08/16/2010 11:43 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) of Singapore wrote:

 I will stick to Fedora 11 at the moment until Fedora 16 or later.
  
 Uh, Fedora 11 is not supported anymore and it also never had a Xen Dom0
 kernel, pvops or otherwise. The last Fedora release to ship a Xen Dom0
 kernel was Fedora 8, and that was from the old Xen codebase which was
 rejected upstream. The Fedora kernel team stopped shipping the classic Xen
 at that point because they didn't want to spend their time porting non-
 upstream patchsets to the current upstream kernel (and in fact F8's kernel-
 xen lagged significantly behind the main kernel). Xen pvops DomU support was
 ready for F9, but Dom0 support is taking its time to get upstreamed (and the
 Fedora kernel team does not want to use non-upstream patchsets for the same
 reasons they stopped shipping classic Xen). So I'd suggest to use a
 currently supported Fedora release (12 or 13) with the unofficial Dom0
 kernel RPMs out there (built for F12, I don't know if they work on F13).

  Kevin Kofler



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