Re: Use of a package?

2012-10-10 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 11:51:56AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On 10/09/2012 11:07 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 01:29:04PM -0400, Eric H. Christensen wrote: Well, if I don't know *if* it's being used I certainly can't ask the

Use of a package?

2012-10-09 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is there any way to determine if anyone is using a particular package in Fedora or EPEL? - -Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQdFEmAAoJEIB2q94CS7PRVBQQAIeimbvI3ncSQaeOQ/va8hhY

Re: Use of a package?

2012-10-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 12:30:30 -0400 Eric H. Christensen spa...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Is there any way to determine if anyone is using a particular package in Fedora or EPEL? Ask them? ;) If you mean any kind of automated way, then no, not really. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: Use of a package?

2012-10-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 12:30:30 -0400, Eric H. Christensen spa...@fedoraproject.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is there any way to determine if anyone is using a particular package in Fedora or EPEL? As a first shot, you might see if there are been bugs filed or

Re: Use of a package?

2012-10-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 12:30:30PM -0400, Eric H. Christensen wrote: Is there any way to determine if anyone is using a particular package in Fedora or EPEL? Yes, for certain values of using. You can set up the audit subsystem to log whenever a command is executed, and then follow back from

Re: Use of a package?

2012-10-09 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 10:36:16AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 12:30:30 -0400 Eric H. Christensen spa...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Is there any way to determine if anyone is using a particular package in Fedora or EPEL?

Re: Use of a package?

2012-10-09 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 12:51:26PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 12:30:30PM -0400, Eric H. Christensen wrote: Is there any way to determine if anyone is using a particular package in Fedora or EPEL? Yes, for certain

Re: Use of a package?

2012-10-09 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 01:29:04PM -0400, Eric H. Christensen wrote: I'd be nice if there was a way for the client to report what packages they have installed (voluntarily, opt-in of course) Debian have a nice system called popcon which essentially does this. You voluntarily install the package

Re: Use of a package?

2012-10-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 01:29:04PM -0400, Eric H. Christensen wrote: Well, if I don't know *if* it's being used I certainly can't ask the unknown masses. :) I was just looking at some of the packages I recently adopted and noted that many of them seem to have dead or dying upstream. That isn't

Re: Use of a package?

2012-10-09 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 11:51:56AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On 10/09/2012 11:07 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 01:29:04PM -0400, Eric H. Christensen wrote: Well, if I don't know *if* it's being used I certainly can't ask the unknown masses. :) I was just looking at some

Re: Use of a package?

2012-10-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 12:11:30PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: That doesn't distinguish between atime of launching or reading the library vs accessing it to back it up or prelink, or...? We could turn off prelink. :) -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁

Re: Use of a package?

2012-10-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 12:28:02PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: Does that distinguish between atime of launching the application or reading the library into another application vs accessing it to back it up, prelink it, or any other systemic read unrelated to the package itself? I don't think

Re: Use of a package?

2012-10-09 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 12:28:02PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: Perhaps some invalid data is better than no data at all. Okay, that made me laugh more than it should have. Can I use that in the future? - -Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: Use of a package?

2012-10-09 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 01:31:41PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On 10/09/2012 01:01 PM, Eric H. Christensen wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 12:28:02PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: Perhaps some invalid data is better than no data at all. Okay, that

Re: Use of a package?

2012-10-09 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 01:43:35PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On 10/09/2012 01:41 PM, Eric H. Christensen wrote: I license the above content under the WTFPL. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:WTFPL That seems to be an open source