Re: grub, grubby, btrfs, was: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE ...

2016-10-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 1:53 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: >> 4. An issue with using syslinux's format, as well as the original >> bootloader spec format, and a major source of disagreement, is the >> assumption that the kernel and initrd are on the same file system as >> the

Re: grub, grubby, btrfs, was: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE ...

2016-10-11 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > > ... and have a fixed grub2.cfg which basically has the command to parse > > the syslinux config file? > > > > OK so there are a few things: > > 1. The information needed to present boot options, the "menu entries", > are a separate thing from the bootloader specific configuration file

Re: grub, grubby, btrfs, was: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE ...

2016-10-10 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 2:17 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Hi, > >> > Adam, the only other distro that has serious alternate architecture >> > support, >> > AFAIK, is Debian. How do they handle grub2 + non-x86? Likewise, the >> > alternate architectures that we support, how do

Re: grub, grubby, btrfs, was: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE ...

2016-10-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 10:17:56AM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Hmm, uboot can use extlinux-style config files, and I recently noticed > grub2 has a command to parse syslinux config files too. Have not tried > to use that though. It does?! > So possibly we can settle on syslinux syntax for

Re: grub, grubby, btrfs, was: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE ...

2016-10-10 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > > Adam, the only other distro that has serious alternate architecture support, > > AFAIK, is Debian. How do they handle grub2 + non-x86? Likewise, the > > alternate architectures that we support, how do we handle their bootloaders? > > Are they grub-based? Ext/Syslinux based? Grub-legacy?

Re: grub, grubby, btrfs, was: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE ...

2016-10-09 Thread Peter Robinson
>> My recollection is grubby was going to get a rethink, but I don't know >> the scope. There are test cases built-into grubby that are considered >> valuable, I'm not sure about the rest. Gene found the code difficult. >> I think the main issue is, whether grubby or something else, it needs >> to

Re: grub, grubby, btrfs, was: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE ...

2016-10-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 5:24 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Chris Murphy

Re: grub, grubby, btrfs, was: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE ...

2016-10-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chris Murphy wrote: > My recollection is grubby was going to get a rethink, but I don't know > the scope. There are test cases built-into grubby that are considered > valuable, I'm not sure about the rest. Gene found the code difficult. > I think the main issue is, whether grubby or something

Re: grub, grubby, btrfs, was: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE ...

2016-10-08 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> Changed this subject to match the other one I changed, so if

Re: grub, grubby, btrfs, was: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE ...

2016-10-07 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Changed this subject to match the other one I changed, so if I'm doing >> it wrong at least I'm consistent! >> >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at

Re: grub, grubby, btrfs, was: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE ...

2016-10-07 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > Changed this subject to match the other one I changed, so if I'm doing > it wrong at least I'm consistent! > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> So, I think we would need to get

grub, grubby, btrfs, was: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE ...

2016-10-07 Thread Chris Murphy
Changed this subject to match the other one I changed, so if I'm doing it wrong at least I'm consistent! On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 00:18:21 -0400 > Eric Griffith wrote: > >> I'm just thinking out loud here,

grub, grubby, btrfs, was: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE ...

2016-10-07 Thread Chris Murphy
This probably should have its own thread but I'm just changing the subject. On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Eric Griffith wrote: > I'm just thinking out loud here, but, given that rpm-ostree does not use > grubby, and we do have the Bootloader Spec, and no other distro