Re: problems using the measure activity.

2008-02-10 Thread david
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> however when we attempted to demo the measure activity we just could not >>> figure out how to make it work. we

Re: problems using the measure activity.

2008-02-10 Thread david
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> however when we attempted to demo the measure activity we just could not >> figure out how to make it work. we got it working three times over the >> weekend (among a

Re: problems using the measure activity.

2008-02-10 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > however when we attempted to demo the measure activity we just could not > figure out how to make it work. we got it working three times over the > weekend (among a dozen or more tries). > > we has laptops with the 650 bui

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread david
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > "Walter Bender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> [...] >> Chris Ball provided Richard with some power readings from our newly >> enhanced power tinderbox running a C2 (mass production) laptop. [...] >> The top auto-suspend power-draw breakdown: >> >>

Re: problems using the measure activity.

2008-02-10 Thread david
obviously I meant the distance utility not the measure (scope) utility. David Lang On Sun, 10 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:06:48 -0800 (PST) > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: devel@lists.laptop.org > Subject: problems using the measure activity. > > several of us

problems using the measure activity.

2008-02-10 Thread david
several of us took our XO laptops to the SCALE conferance this weekend. We got a LOT of attention (you couldn't walk down the hallway with one without people asking about them, I stepped out of a class at the afternoon break on friday and didn't make it down to the registration desk for 5 hours

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Richard A. Smith
Hal Murray wrote: > How long does it take to turn the radio on and off? (I'm assuming the EC can > do it without help from the main CPU.) It can, but only when the CPU is off. Turning off the WLAN turns of 3.3V and will crash the machine if things are not in suspend. The EC can also put the

Re: WiFi power conservation

2008-02-10 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Sun, Feb 10, 2008, John Gilmore wrote: > Second, simply add a GUI control to turn off the Mesh part of the WiFi > entirely. This would save significant power (Mesh is transmitting all > the time; an ordinary WiFi connection isn't). It would also allow the > ordinary WiFi to go into ordinary 8

Re: WiFi power conservation

2008-02-10 Thread John Gilmore
> > > Has the following idea already come up? How about just turning off > > > the wlan entirely during suspend, if the machine has reason to > > > believe that its contribution to mesh connectivity is negligible? We can do better, without losing any functionality in school deployments. Fi

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Richard A. Smith
Jameson "Chema" Quinn wrote: > re: turn off the network when not contributing > I second this idea, if it can be implemented. > > Separate from suspended battery life, there is sleep life (I have to say > I still think these words are backwards. Suspend = automatic, screen on, > sleep= power bu

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Richard A. Smith
Chris Ball wrote: >> The good news is that the 2W total matches what olpc-logbat reports >> as being the average for a 4.5 hour uninterrupted suspend session >> so measured matches reality. The bad news is that this works out >> to only about 8.5 hours of battery life with no waku

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Hal Murray
> > Has the following idea already come up? How about just turning off > > the wlan entirely during suspend, if the machine has reason to > > believe that its contribution to mesh connectivity is negligible? > Michail should answer this, but it sounds to me like an interesting > idea with s

Re: Keyboard layout (is: SOLVED?)

2008-02-10 Thread James
On 9 Feb 2008, at 10:36, James wrote: > Following the first 4 instructions at > > I have managed to set my G1G1 XO laptop to accept input in > Amharic. That's the good news. > > The bad news is that I can no longer switch back to a US keyboard. On

Re: Keyboard layout (is: connect from console)

2008-02-10 Thread James
On 10 Feb 2008, at 18:12, Bennett Todd wrote: 2008-02-10T22:39:53 James: /sbin/iwconfig eth0 essid linksys /sbin/iwconfig eth0 key C55999D652 /usr/sbin/olpc-update 656 ... but the virtual console complained: Could not download update contents file from: rsync://updates.laptop.org/bui

Re: Keyboard layout (is: connect from console)

2008-02-10 Thread Bennett Todd
2008-02-10T22:39:53 James: >/sbin/iwconfig eth0 essid linksys >/sbin/iwconfig eth0 key C55999D652 >/usr/sbin/olpc-update 656 > > ... but the virtual console complained: > >Could not download update contents file from: >rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-656/contents >I don't

Re: age appropriate development

2008-02-10 Thread Mel Chua
Kent, Have you tried the library mailing list? (lists.laptop.org/listinfo/library) It tends to have more education-related discussion along with people with instructional design & education backgrounds that might be able to fill you in on what's been done so far with age-related categorizations. C

Re: Keyboard layout (is: connect from console)

2008-02-10 Thread James
On 9 Feb 2008, at 16:50, Walter Bender wrote: > If you can still boot and get to the console, you should be able to > both configure your network and do an update. > > Are you familiar with the iwconfig command? > It is in /sbin > > olpc-update lives in the /usr/sbin directory, which should be in y

age appropriate development

2008-02-10 Thread Kent Loobey
I don't know where to post this. I have spent the last little while reading articles and papers on the web on child development. I am interested in developing activities for early childhood learning. If the OLPC XO-1s are aimed at 6 to 12 year olds then I am interested in the 6-7-8 year end o

[Announce] Updated translations pushed

2008-02-10 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hello all, I have just finished checking (with msgfmt --check) all the po files for the activities and modules which are translated via Pootle, and mass pushed the updated files into dev.laptop.org git. Please do a git pull, and test - if the build happens successfully, please release a new pack

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Jameson "Chema" Quinn
re: turn off the network when not contributing I second this idea, if it can be implemented. Separate from suspended battery life, there is sleep life (I have to say I still think these words are backwards. Suspend = automatic, screen on, sleep= power button or close case, screen off; right?). On

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Hi, Chris - On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 01:44:15PM -0500, Chris Ball wrote: > [...] >> Has the following idea already come up? How about just turning off >> the wlan entirely during suspend, if the machine has reason to >> believe that its contribution to mesh connectivity is negligible?

New joyride build 1673

2008-02-10 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1673 Changes in build 1673 from build: 1670 Size delta: 0.00M -Journal 85 +Journal 86 --- Changes for Journal 86 from 85 --- + #5017 Translate the dates in the list view. -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.la

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Frank, > Has the following idea already come up? How about just turning off > the wlan entirely during suspend, if the machine has reason to > believe that its contribution to mesh connectivity is negligible? Michail should answer this, but it sounds to me like an interesting idea wi

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, > The good news is that the 2W total matches what olpc-logbat reports > as being the average for a 4.5 hour uninterrupted suspend session > so measured matches reality. The bad news is that this works out > to only about 8.5 hours of battery life with no wakups. My own perspectiv

Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-02-09)

2008-02-10 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
"Walter Bender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] > Chris Ball provided Richard with some power readings from our newly > enhanced power tinderbox running a C2 (mass production) laptop. [...] > The top auto-suspend power-draw breakdown: > > WLAN: 734 mW > backlight:362 mW > memory: 239

Re: Keyboard layout: switching from Amharic <> US

2008-02-10 Thread Simon Schampijer
James wrote: > On 9 Feb 2008, at 14:04, Walter Bender wrote: >> it is likely just a (simple) matter of checking your i18n-related >> files. > Hi Walter, > > Thanks for jumping in. > > With Simon Schampijer's help, I have restored the i18n and keyboard > file to (what I believe is) their initi

Re: Installing Sugar on Fedora 7

2008-02-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 17:00 -0500, Yifan Sun wrote: > Hello, I’m new to the list so I don’t know if this is the appropriate > place to ask, but I’m having some difficulties installing the Sugar > emulator on Fedora 7. I’m trying to use jhbuild, but I keep running > into a transaction check error: >

Re: Updating translations for release...

2008-02-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 08:23 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > On Feb 9, 2008 10:49 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 22:38 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > > > > 1) Can the activities be updated by you updating the packages, or will > > > > this require work b