free usb8388.bin

2008-02-14 Thread Albert Cahalan
We have free firmware now: git clone git://dev.laptop.org/users/albert/usb8388 I admit that it has some... bugs. The mesh doesn't work. Power management doesn't work. Heck, it won't send/receive packets and it knows nothing of this USB thing. However, we have a blinkenlight. Ship it! BTW, what

wiki page for control-panel

2008-02-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, I found out that we have two wiki pages for the control panel. The first I created initially and has the more detailed information. The second one seems to be linked by the Support FAQ. Can we decide to use only one page? How do we handle such a case - is there a person taking care of

Re: RPM packages for Sugar and activities and LiveCD

2008-02-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Alexander Todorov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I apologize if that's been asked before. I couldn't find RPM packages for Sugar or activities except a few made for personal use and hosted on the Internet. My intention is to create rpm package for

Re: wiki page for control-panel

2008-02-14 Thread Samuel Klein
Simon, This happens. Please merge them yourself where possible -- or add {{merge}} to the top of the pages to help others find and merge them. I redirected the newer page to the older and copied its contents onto the old talk page. SJ On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL

Re: RPM packages for Sugar and activities and LiveCD

2008-02-14 Thread Alexander Todorov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Alexander Todorov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I apologize if that's been asked before. I couldn't find RPM packages for Sugar or activities except a few made for personal

Re: RPM packages for Sugar and activities and LiveCD

2008-02-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Alexander Todorov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool, I've added some comments there. Can you please create a list of all packages/activities so we can keep track which of them have rpms and which don't? Commented on the ticket about that. If you feel like

Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-14 Thread Morgan Collett
We're testing patches to Presence Service to not start salut (or stop it) for a while to give gabble a chance to connect to the schoolserver. However, Daf came across what was a very minor problem which becomes more serious in light of this change. Many activities are calling PS

Re: New update.1 build 692

2008-02-14 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Thursday 14 February 2008, Build Announcer v2 wrote: http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build692 Changes in build 692 from build: 691 This is an intrim build. some more updates were approved at the end of me putting together this build. Dennis signature.asc

hosting request: Gadget

2008-02-14 Thread Dafydd Harries
1. Project name : Gadget 2. Existing website, if any : 3. One-line description : Jabber server extension for activity indexing 4. Longer description : Gadget provides an index of Sugar activities and : their participants so that Sugar instances

hosting request: Cerebro

2008-02-14 Thread Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
1. Project name : Cerebro 2. Existing website, if any : http://cerebro.mit.edu 3. One-line description : Provide scalable presence information 4. Longer description : Cerebro will be a plugin to the Presence Service. :

Re: Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-14 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 16:58 +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: We're testing patches to Presence Service to not start salut (or stop it) for a while to give gabble a chance to connect to the schoolserver. (a) Touch all these activities now and port them to the newer cleaner API offered by PS/Sugar

Re: Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-14 Thread Ricardo Carrano
(e) make salut less chatty during this period (instead of stopping it). But I don't know if this is possible or how to do it. So it maybe not a valid suggestion. But ... I think we have a time sensitive problem. Salut clogs the network if there are many XOs running it. So, if you think of a

Re: free usb8388.bin

2008-02-14 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:24 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, what is killing my blinkenlight? I realize that it wouldn't do to hang the boot forever because of some missing firmware features,

Re: Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-14 Thread Morgan Collett
Jim Gettys wrote: On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 16:58 +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: However, during the period when we stop salut to let gabble try to connect, this call fails as there is no running plugin in PS. If an activity is launched during this time (and there's no particular UI to show this

Re: Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-14 Thread Morgan Collett
John Watlington wrote: On Feb 14, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Jim Gettys wrote: Let me ask a different question: what happens to activities already running which are running shared? Are they going to fail? Presumably, yes It sounds like any activity trying to share until either gable connect

Re: free usb8388.bin

2008-02-14 Thread Richard Smith
Then it seems that something shuts off the wireless chip. Random guesses are that the driver and/or NetworkManager asks the EC to cut the power. You can't cut power to the WLAN while running the CPU or you lose +3.3 and your system crashes. The driver does however tell the EC to reset the

Re: Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-14 Thread Morgan Collett
Morgan Collett wrote: Many activities are calling PS get_preferred_connection() to interact directly with the appropriate Telepathy Connection Manager, which was required in the past before we expanded Presence Service's management of setting up channels for activities. However, during the

Re: Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-14 Thread Ricardo Carrano
I am not sure I was clear. I meant: maybe it is not necessary to turn it (salut) off _while_ trying to connect to gabble. If connected to gabble, then stop salut. Wouldn't this simplify matters? On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (e) make salut less chatty

Re: Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-14 Thread Ricardo Carrano
John, I am sure 20 laptops will melt down a channel currently. But in this case, the 20 are already turned on and running salut, right? My point is: If you turn on one laptop running salut (it is the only one turned on for a while) can it connect to a school server (even while running salut)? If

Re: Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-14 Thread John Watlington
Ricardo, That is the current situation, and the chatter generated by Salut multiplied by mesh multicast really does prevent laptops from connecting through gabble. We did a recent test here where 20 laptops really melted down a single channel. wad On Feb 14, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Ricardo

Re: Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-14 Thread Jim Gettys
You may be correct; the one other issue we have to look at carefully is Avahi (Salut's) behavior after resume. It is likely that all timeouts have expired, and that as soon as you resume a system, it may be immediately doing mdns traffic. If everyone opens up at the same time, you'd have

Open Simulator with Physics Engine

2008-02-14 Thread Edward Cherlin
Has anybody looked at this for the XO? http://opensimulator.org/wiki/PhysicsEngines The physics is not very realistic yet. Presumably we could manage simple statics and dynamics, with graphs of position, velocity, and acceleration. I would like to have a simulation engine available for

Read ETexts Activity

2008-02-14 Thread James Simmons
1. Project name : Read ETexts Activity 2. Existing website, if any : None 3. One-line description : A simple Python Activity for reading Gutenberg etexts 4. Longer description : This will be a fairly trivial activity that allows : paging through

Fwd: [bytesforall_readers] SPEAKER

2008-02-14 Thread Edward Cherlin
Reposted here with permission. FYI. -- Forwarded message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 6:54 AM Subject: [bytesforall_readers] SPEAKER To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone: I run a Free Webinar System using Elluminate http://www.elluminate.com and I can

Re: Read ETexts Activity

2008-02-14 Thread James Simmons
Edward, I was not planning on anything so fancy. Basically, I was frustrated that I had a device that would be wonderfully suited to reading Gutenberg etexts and no suitable program to do it with. I have written such an Activity and am putting the finishing touches on it. As I see it, the

Re: Open Simulator with Physics Engine

2008-02-14 Thread Joshua Minor
I have played with PyODE, but not on the XO. http:// pyode.sourceforge.net/ I suspect that the XO would not be able to handle a realistic 3D simulation with a large number of objects. This is partially due to the lack of GL for rendering. Simpler things, like wireframe rendering, 2D

Re: Read ETexts Activity

2008-02-14 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 1:39 PM, James Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edward, I was not planning on anything so fancy. Not a problem. Others can pick up where you have left off. Basically, I was frustrated that I had a device that would be wonderfully suited to reading Gutenberg

New joyride build 1696

2008-02-14 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1696 Changes in build 1696 from build: 1695 Size delta: 0.00M -python-jinja 1.2-1 +python-jinja 1.2-2.fc7 --- Changes for python-jinja 1.2-2.fc7 from 1.2-1 --- + make spec comply with fedora packaging guidelines + build in mock

Re: Read ETexts Activity

2008-02-14 Thread James Simmons
Edward Cherlin wrote: Have you added your hard-won knowledge to the Wiki pages on Sugar and Sugarizing? To be truthful, I'm a little leery of editing Wiki pages. I'm afraid I'm going to mess up somebody else's hard work. We use a Wiki at the office but there is an implied ownership for

Re: Open Simulator with Physics Engine

2008-02-14 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Joshua Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have played with PyODE, but not on the XO. http:// pyode.sourceforge.net/ I suspect that the XO would not be able to handle a realistic 3D simulation with a large number of objects. This is partially due to the

Re: Open Simulator with Physics Engine

2008-02-14 Thread Kim Hawtin
Edward Cherlin wrote: Has anybody looked at this for the XO? http://opensimulator.org/wiki/PhysicsEngines The physics is not very realistic yet. Presumably we could manage simple statics and dynamics, with graphs of position, velocity, and acceleration. I would like to have a

hackathon/mini-Jam in Boston, Sat. 2/16

2008-02-14 Thread Yifan
The Olin College OLPC chapter, on the wiki at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Olin_university_chapter/, is hosting a min-jam in the Boston area this weekend. we will be running it at Olin, about 40 minutes outside of Boston/Cambridge [in Needham, MA], and we'd love to have local contributors [hardware,

Turn off mesh (g1g1)?

2008-02-14 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
After a few days, I'm only able to connect to my WPA AP about 10% of the time. I've just updated to latest joyride, but same symptoms. It frequently re-asks me for the password too. From looking at the logs (not that I know what's going on) I'm wondering if the DHCP and network up/down of

Offer of help for Amharic

2008-02-14 Thread James
Hello everyone, Now that I have got Amharic working on my G1G1 XO, I spent some time today with a couple of Ethiopian friends, looking at the Amharic keyboard input and display. They encountered a number of issues both with the keyboard layout and with the way the characters were

Re: [Server-devel] back up script for the XO's?

2008-02-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 4:42 AM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was supposed to work on that, but am overwhelmed with other tasks at this time. Somebody else may already be working on this as well. A very old/early set of scripts is at:

Re: Offer of help for Amharic

2008-02-14 Thread Walter Bender
In the short term, there is not much we can do about the physical layout of the keyboard. But getting the rest of the Amharic input issues sorted out would be very helpful. A first step would be to start a collector ticket in Trac for all the open issues. regards. -walter On 2/14/08, James