State of Update.1 on March 20, 2008

2008-03-21 Thread Michael Stone
Folks, First, thanks are due to gdesmott, morgs, cscott, dwmw2, daf, walter, wad, mstone, and Blaketh for contributing helpful updates to our U.1 bugs. If your name isn't on this list: shame on you! Update a bug! Next, we're blocked on testing results for: Packages

Re: Google Summer of Code and OLPC

2008-03-21 Thread Charles Merriam
No problem. Wiki now has a link. -- Charles On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Roberto Fagá [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try One Laptop Per Child :) http://code.google.com/soc/olpc/about.html Ooops! I'm a tired

Re: State of Update.1 on March 20, 2008

2008-03-21 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 7:39 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #6170 ???uwog(shared write crashes) #6407 ???marco (Write crashes when sharing and add an image) #6407 is probably a dup of #6170. #6170 should be PKG. uwog is going to build rpms. Marco

Re: State of Update.1 on March 20, 2008

2008-03-21 Thread Sjoerd Simons
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 02:39:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: #6575 TSTcollabora (chat receives message but can't send anymore) This one is fixed in the latest salut packages. Please ensure that you test that too :) (See http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6728) Sjoerd -- Life is the

Re: State of Update.1 on March 20, 2008

2008-03-21 Thread Walter Bender
#5841 should really be fixed. The console in Spanish is hobbled without it. If we don't have an eloquent way to do it up stream today, let's target that for Update.2, but fork the patch today. If we can get 701 signed for testing out the door today, we can get 600 teachers test it for us next

Sharing behavior in the core Read activity

2008-03-21 Thread James Simmons
I am trying to give Read Etexts the same sharing behavior that core Read has, using mostly the same code. Until this week I didn't have a good way to test sharing, but I have set up multiple instances of sugar-jhbuild on one of my computers so now I can test sharing. My sugar installation is

Re: State of Update.1 on March 20, 2008

2008-03-21 Thread Michael Stone
Sjoerd, This one is fixed in the latest salut packages. Please ensure that you test that too :) (See http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6728) My TST designator means that the bug requires testing _in a release candidate build_. It's helpful and encouraging to know that the new salut package is

Re: State of Update.1 on March 20, 2008

2008-03-21 Thread Michael Stone
Bernie reported on Wednesday that new demands on his time make it impossible for him to commit to closing bugs on our accelerated timelines. However, it looks like a fairly simple packaging change is required. Either Dennis or I should be able to take care of it. We'll see who wins the race. :)

Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference

2008-03-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Mitch Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that Update.2 should be about 3 things: 3) Performance 2) Performance 1) Performance Mechanisms to achieve those performance goals are worthy candidates for a talk! --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ )

Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference

2008-03-21 Thread Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
I sense that this is gonna be a looong thread C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Mitch Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that Update.2 should be about 3 things: 3) Performance 2) Performance 1) Performance Mechanisms to achieve those

Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference

2008-03-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Is still the plan for Update.2 to be about the most urgent needs from the deployments? Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference

2008-03-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is still the plan for Update.2 to be about the most urgent needs from the deployments? Perhaps I wrote the call for papers too narrowly. Certainly every stable release will continue to include fixes for pressing

Re: Switching between Arabic and French

2008-03-21 Thread Arjun Sarwal
One other comment, just a nit really: it surprised me that the mapping of I216 to [ISO_Next_Group, ISO_Prev_Group] was put into each of the main language files rather than once in the option file and then reflected in the rules as needed. This wasn't true for group mappings on my Ubuntu Linux

Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference

2008-03-21 Thread NoiseEHC
Could somebody answer these questions? 1. What is the status of zlib - lzo transition in jffs2? 2. What is the status of the new X architecture? (The name is DRM but I am not sure.) 3. What is the status of the shared page python stuff? Will the reference count problem will be solved in Python

Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference

2008-03-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 6:50 PM, NoiseEHC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could somebody answer these questions? 1. What is the status of zlib - lzo transition in jffs2? 2. What is the status of the new X architecture? (The name is DRM but I am not sure.) 3. What is the status of the shared page

Project Hosting request: ISIS

2008-03-21 Thread Roberto Fagá
1. Project name : Incredibly Simple Interactive Storytelling 2. Existing website, if any : http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ISIS 3. One-line description : ISIS is a platform to develop interactive stories. 4. Longer description : ISIS is a platform to allow

Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference

2008-03-21 Thread NoiseEHC
It is the problem that every page will be modified (and so copied) if it contains a reference count so the metadata effectively cannot be shared. http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2007-September/006617.html Also mentioned in (point 9.)

Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference

2008-03-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hmm, yesterday I executed free after launching some activities and got this results: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-March/004650.html Am I very wrong to think that we can save 3.6MB per python activity instance? Tomeu On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 7:21 PM, NoiseEHC [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Sharing behavior in the core Read activity

2008-03-21 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi James, Another thing I remember reading is that if two kids share an activity and one has an older version of the activity than the other, the older version gets updated so they both have the newer version. This doesn't seem to be happening. I have two test machines, one running

Interest in GSOC 2008

2008-03-21 Thread Alex Escalona
Hi, I am writing to express interest in the GSoC 2008 mentorship offered by the One Laptop Per Child association. I am a first-year graduate student in computer science at the Illinois Institute of Technology's MSCS program. My disciplinary interests include general topics in the broad field of

Re: Interest in GSOC 2008

2008-03-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/3/21 Alex Escalona [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I am writing to express interest in the GSoC 2008 mentorship offered by the One Laptop Per Child association. I am a first-year graduate student in computer science at the Illinois Institute of Technology's MSCS program. My disciplinary

Re: Interest in GSOC 2008

2008-03-21 Thread Alex Escalona
Thanks for the reply, Tomeu. I will be sure to contribute to the topics to the best of my ability. I'm looking forward to the meeting, as well as to helping advance OLPC's mission, however possible. Best, Alex On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/3/21

New joyride build 1788

2008-03-21 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1788 Changes in build 1788 from build: 1784 Size delta: 0.27M -eject 2.1.5-6.fc7 +eject 2.1.5-7.fc7 -espeak 1.31-4.fc7 +espeak 1.31-5.fc7 -gtk2 2.10.14-3.fc7 +gtk2 2.10.14-4.fc7 -krb5-libs 1.6.1-8.fc7 +krb5-libs 1.6.1-9.fc7 -libdhcp

New faster build 1788

2008-03-21 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1788 Changes in build 1788 from build: 1785 Size delta: 0.39M -eject 2.1.5-6.fc7 +eject 2.1.5-7.fc7 -espeak 1.31-4.fc7 +espeak 1.31-5.fc7 -gtk2 2.10.14-3.fc7 +gtk2 2.10.14-4.fc7 -krb5-libs 1.6.1-8.fc7 +krb5-libs 1.6.1-9.fc7 -libdhcp

New update.1 build 701

2008-03-21 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build701 Changes in build 701 from build: 700 Size delta: -0.13M -telepathy-salut 0.2.2-5.olpc2 +telepathy-salut 0.2.3-1.olpc2 -kbd 1.12-22.fc7 +kbd 1.12-23.olpc2 -sugar-presence-service 0.75.2-1.olpc2 +sugar-presence-service

Maintaining Activity Packs

2008-03-21 Thread Michael Stone
Dear devel, While drafting release notes for Update.1 RC2 (signed update.1-699), we realized that we need a good story about what we want the ecosystem of activity and library packs (for use with the customization key [1]) to be. The rough sense emerging from the folks I've interviewed so far

Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference

2008-03-21 Thread Bryan Berry
Mitch Bradley wrote: I think that Update.2 should be about 3 things: 3) Performance 2) Performance 1) Performance I second that. Update.2 should be about optimizing Sugar and its dependencies, not adding new features. My 2 cents. -- Bryan W. Berry Systems Engineer OLE Nepal,

Re: Maintaining Activity Packs

2008-03-21 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Stone wrote: | * to the extent that we are able, we should record the compatibility | matrix between builds and activities Once upon a time, there was going to be a build called First Release to Service, and its number was to be 1.

Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference

2008-03-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is still the plan for Update.2 to be about the most urgent needs from the deployments? Scott - what's the release naming scheme? What will the bugfix release post update.1 be called, versus the next feature release?

Re: New faster build 1788

2008-03-21 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
Build Announcer v2 wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1788 Hi folks; I missed something along the line -- what's the difference between the faster stream and joyride? I guess I can switch from one stream to the other? thx, -- Gary Oberbrunner

New joyride build 1789

2008-03-21 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1789 Changes in build 1789 from build: 1788 Size delta: 0.00M -bootfw q2d14-1.olpc2.unsigned +bootfw q2d14a-1.olpc2.unsigned -kbd 1.12-22.fc7 +kbd 1.12-23.olpc2 --- Changes for bootfw q2d14a-1.olpc2.unsigned from q2d14-1.olpc2.unsigned

Summer of Code update, meeting tomorrow 2100 UTC

2008-03-21 Thread Samuel Klein
Dear all, We are participating in Google Summer of Code again this year, and now accepting applications from mentors. We are holding the first of a series of quick discussions about SoC tomorrow (saturday) at 2100 UTC / 1700 EST in #olpc. Please join us to share advice to share from SoC's past,

Re: [sugar] Summer of Code update, meeting tomorrow 2100 UTC

2008-03-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: of quick discussions about SoC tomorrow (saturday) at 2100 UTC / 1700 EST in #olpc. Please join us to share advice to share from SoC's past, find out Fantastic - I will be there to discuss XS stuff :-) cheers, m --

Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference

2008-03-21 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
On 22.03.2008 00:30, John R.Hogerhuis wrote: I'd agree with Mitch. Performance, or for us, UI responsiveness, the most visible and painful issue being start up time of applications is paramount. My 4-year old, with no cushy performant computer experience, loses interest in the 10 seconds+ it

New faster build 1789

2008-03-21 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1789 Changes in build 1789 from build: 1788 Size delta: 0.00M -bootfw q2d14-1.olpc2.unsigned +bootfw q2d14a-1.olpc2.unsigned -kbd 1.12-22.fc7 +kbd 1.12-23.olpc2 --- Changes for bootfw q2d14a-1.olpc2.unsigned from q2d14-1.olpc2.unsigned

Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference

2008-03-21 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
On 22.03.2008 02:09, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if Windows runs faster ... once somebody has a child-friendly UI for Windows You are going from if to when with absolutely no support from

Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! Update.2 Mini-Conference

2008-03-21 Thread david
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, John R.Hogerhuis wrote: I'd agree with Mitch. Performance, or for us, UI responsiveness, the most visible and painful issue being start up time of applications is paramount. My 4-year old, with no cushy performant computer experience, loses interest in the 10 seconds+

New update.1 build 702

2008-03-21 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build702 Changes in build 702 from build: 701 Size delta: -0.14M -kbd 1.12-23.olpc2 +kbd 1.12-24.olpc2 --- Changes for kbd 1.12-24.olpc2 from 1.12-23.olpc2 --- + get the proper files. a wget of the the url resulted in a html file +

JS-Python Communication using PyXPCom

2008-03-21 Thread Manusheel Gupta
FYI Regards, Manu Manusheel Gupta Technical Consultant and Adviser One Laptop Per Child Inc. http://laptop.org -- Forwarded message -- From: Luke Closs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 1:27 AM Subject: Re: hello To: Joshua McKenty [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

1789 - sugar does not boot

2008-03-21 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Once upon a time my OLPC laptop (G1G1) was reliable. No longer. I've been dual-booting it, by installing a recent Joyride build plus a recent Update.1 build. But the most recent Joyride builds do not boot for me: The symptom seen most often is that the circle of dots gets drawn, then the

Re: Sharing behavior in the core Read activity

2008-03-21 Thread John Watlington
It is a known problem that the Read activity doesn't automatically store a copy of the shared document in the Journal. Read has bigger problems. I haven't been able to get it to share the document properly in test after test. wad On Mar 21, 2008, at 10:54 AM, James Simmons wrote: I am

Re: [Server-devel] via epia not supported in iso?

2008-03-21 Thread Marten Vijn
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/OLPC_XS_161.iso is not there jet.. Marten On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 03:30 -0400, John Watlington wrote: OK, so it is something to do with the kernel we are using, which is from upgrades, not the released one. I just noticed that we have both i586 and i686

Re: [Server-devel] automation in build system

2008-03-21 Thread Marten Vijn
On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 21:52 +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: It is now. Sorry, we need more automation in our build system... wad If you get the chance later, it would be great to send out a Build-Announcer email for each new build like there is for the XO images. and somethink like a

Re: [Server-devel] via epia not supported in iso?

2008-03-21 Thread Marten Vijn
On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 10:23 -0400, John Watlington wrote: It is now. Sorry, we need more automation in our build system... ack testing.. C3: uncompressing linux OK, booting kernel - and halts there i686: is booting... kind regards, Marten wad On Mar 21, 2008, at 4:28 AM, Marten

Re: [Server-devel] Web-based Management Interface for the XS

2008-03-21 Thread crosvera
bryan wrote: If you do intend to build a web-based interface from scratch, can you use a pretty language like Python or Ruby to do it? Perl and PHP make my eyes bleed. Both Django (Python) and Ruby on Rails seem like great frameworks for rapid development. What is wrong with php?, there are

[Server-devel] Fwd: [sugar] Summer of Code update, meeting tomorrow 2100 UTC

2008-03-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
-- Forwarded message -- From: Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:48 PM Subject: [sugar] Summer of Code update, meeting tomorrow 2100 UTC To: OLPC Development [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sugar Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear all, We are