On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Sayamindu,
Great work, thanks for taking up the gauntlet on this!
One question for you, how much lead time do you need to do the translations?
Basically, there are two separate problems here, and we should not
be solving them together. One is that the latest release may not be
the greatest - because of bugfix releases. I agree with Eben's proposal
of minor version numbers as a (totally optional) solution; as long as
the
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Version (activity_version) is just some sortable entity to be agreed
In other words, let us do the same thing that rpm and dpkg do.
It gives
Le mardi 15 juillet 2008 à 19:39 -0400, Ricardo Carrano a écrit :
Hey!
Hi,
I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511.
Following instructions in:
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html
Fetching the rpms from:
:(
No network after loading this build.
-walter
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2165
Changes in build 2165 from build: 2163
Size delta: 0.00M
-kernel
Here is a workaround: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7514#comment:7
Tomeu
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:(
No network after loading this build.
-walter
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The range on our Pootle server is from 0% translated (Aymara, for
example) to 99% for German. Spanish, the most used, is at 69%, but
almost all
David, just tried what Dennis suggested and it just worked:
yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
Please git it a try yourself and if it works, could you update the
wiki page and give some feedback on the trac tickets you mentioned?
Remember that this is in joyride, so perhaps different advice
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 11:47 +0200, riccardo wrote:
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 05:01 -0400, Greg Smith wrote:
description?
It would be useful to see a comparison of build 656 v 703 v 708 v
latest
joyride. That's a lot so just 703 (last release image) vs latest
Joyride
would the top
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2169
Changes in build 2169 from build: 2165
Size delta: 0.00M
-sugar-update-control 0.2-1
+sugar-update-control 0.3-1
--- Changes for sugar-update-control 0.3-1 from 0.2-1 ---
+ Support editing/reordering activity groups.
--
+1 on Gary's comments! Hysterical and spot on. Please keep them coming
and let me know if I can help you with your project participation.
This is an important discussion about version numbers. The most
important part will be coming to a working assumption (albeit temporary
and subject to
Hi Sayamindu and Localization Leads,
Thanks for following up on this.
I put string freeze for translation in the the Release Process at:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Process_Home#String_Freeze
I don't know that the exact dates in the process will hold, but its a
start. There are a couple
Hello everyone,
It looks like F-9 ships xkeyboard-config-1.2, while the latest version
(version 1.3) has quite a few OLPC specific fixes and enhancements. In
such a situation do we backport the fixes to xkeyboard-config-1.2 and
ship the F-9 RPM, or do we create a new package with
Hi Brian, Michael, et al,
Thanks for the notes.
On this:
* What build should you be testing / providing packages for?
8.2 stream has some divergence
http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/8.2-joyride.html
I'm still not sure which image to spend my time on and QA is asking the
same.
Can you pick
Absence of dissent does not mean agreement. It often means some people
are just tired of the topic and will find the topic frustrating to chime
in on; I know this to be true for some of us.
I must say I'm tired of us changing our naming scheme again and again.
We've gone from build numbers, to
Hi,
I'd like to have some files I uploaded at d.l.o accessible for downloads
for anybody so that I can include links to them in reports send to the
ml.
How to do it ? ;)
thanks,
riccardo
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On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:19 PM, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to have some files I uploaded at d.l.o accessible for downloads
for anybody so that I can include links to them in reports send to the
ml.
How to do it ? ;)
thanks,
riccardo
Put the files in
Hi,
Problem: switching between activities is noticeably too slow.
Test-case: the test consist of starting Chat and Write and switching
between them for a sensible amount of time. All tests were run on a xo.
Switching was automated by patching sugar-shell to call
shell.activate_next_activity() or
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 20:21 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:19 PM, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to have some files I uploaded at d.l.o accessible for downloads
for anybody so that I can include links to them in reports send to the
ml.
How
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:04 AM, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
(so that it never ends up in the journal) every 1100. The 1100ms value
was chosen after some testing as the minimum value (or very near to it)
at which both activities are able to completely redraw their windows on
switching
David Leeming wrote:
The cp command gave a string of complaints that the source and destination
files are the same file. I am therefore unsure if it worked successfully
as per the comment below on the wiki page. However after a reboot the
touchpad still works...
If you omit the -a in the
Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 09:31 -0300, Ricardo Carrano a écrit :
I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511.
Following instructions in:
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html
Fetching the rpms from:
Guillaume,
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Guillaume Desmottes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 09:31 -0300, Ricardo Carrano a écrit :
I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511.
Following instructions in:
So today I had a meeting with Christopher Aillon, the maintainer of all
things Mozilla in Fedora, and it helped greatly to shape my understanding
of the issues around xulrunner for OLPC and/or Sugar and/or Fedora.
My proposed goal is to maintain a xulrunner package in Fedora that meets
the
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:10:56AM -0400, Greg Smith wrote:
Who can gather the consensus and take responsibility for updating the
wiki if needed?
No one can, yet, because there's a real argument going on between the
people who have to live with the versioning scheme on the infrastructure
and
We will also need to enable pyxpcom in the fedora firefox for Browse to work.
Marco
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So today I had a meeting with Christopher Aillon, the maintainer of all
things Mozilla in Fedora, and it helped greatly to shape my
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:43 -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
3. These dependencies will be coming back someday in the upstream, when
Mozilla makes these hard dependencies instead of soft dependencies.
Are you saying that, in future, it will not be possible to compile a
xulrunner without
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the status. I wasn't asking if we have agreement. I was
asking who will update the incorrect documentation when/if we have
something new to say.
You seem to know the state of affairs, can you update this wiki link
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles so it does
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 01:16:51PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote:
*** Salient quotes: Each activity.info file must have a
activity_version key. The version is a single positive integer.
Larger versions are considered newer. The value assigned to this key
should be considered opaque to the activity;
Daniel,
It is quiet possible we'll want to pick up gnomevfs2 as a basic library
in a future release (think about the OLPCfs method of accessing the
journal). We didn't want the old gnomevfs library since that pulled in
the old bonobo horror as a dependency. I'm not familiar with libgnome,
and
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Daniel,
It is quiet possible we'll want to pick up gnomevfs2 as a basic library
in a future release (think about the OLPCfs method of accessing the
journal). We didn't want the old gnomevfs library since that pulled in
the
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 13:44 -0400, Jim Gettys wrote:
Daniel,
It is quiet possible we'll want to pick up gnomevfs2 as a basic library
in a future release (think about the OLPCfs method of accessing the
journal). We didn't want the old gnomevfs library since that pulled in
the old bonobo
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 13:44 -0400, Jim Gettys wrote:
Daniel,
It is quiet possible we'll want to pick up gnomevfs2 as a basic library
in a future release (think about the OLPCfs method of accessing the
journal). We didn't
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 19:48 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Daniel,
It is quiet possible we'll want to pick up gnomevfs2 as a basic library
in a future release (think about the OLPCfs method of accessing the
Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is an important discussion about version numbers.
Not that I want to put heat in here, I just thought you might just be
interested in this:
http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Kernel_Release_Numbering_Redux
Quoting Linus:
I have to say that I personally
Hi All,
I have a priority request from the field to not lose any saved data.
I believe we already do that except in the case of a crash or freeze
of activities (no crashes is another request :-). Is that right?
I heard we may have implemented some interim saving feature since 656.
Does anyone
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
I have a priority request from the field to not lose any saved data.
I believe we already do that except in the case of a crash or freeze
of activities (no crashes is another request :-). Is that right?
Yep.
I
Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:49:44 +0530, Shikhar Bhushan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Project name : xomail
Done. Your tree is here:
git+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/git/activities/xomail
Please follow instructions here for importing your project:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Importing_your_project
Let us
Hi, everyone!
I was wondering if is there a way to open a popup or something like that in
sugar, we want to use that or something similar to give warnings to the
user, like 95% of disk space used.
Thanks!
--
Emiliano Pastorino
LATU - Plan Ceibal
Av. Italia 6201 CP: 11500, Montevideo, Uruguay
This is a problem that all XOs face.
Ultimately we should produce a shared solution and push the fix into
Sugar. I believe there has been some discussion of this?
The problem is getting that fix back out to deployed laptops may not be
easy...
My 2c. Maybe the XO character in the home view
Two answers:
1. We absolutely need stronger feedback (actually, feedback at all) for
system state, such as disk space, battery level, network failures, and other
similar issues. This is going to be handled by the notification system,
which is in its infancy in the upcoming 8.2 release, but
Hi Richard, sorry I am a bit slow with Linux :) can you say where to do the
ls -l and uname -a? Just need a bit of clarification on how to check it is
installed.
By the way, I DID notice a bit of jumping cursor behaviour after the install
on a couple of XOs. The 4-finger salute helped a lot. Too
David Leeming wrote:
Hi Richard, sorry I am a bit slow with Linux :) can you say where to do the
ls -l and uname -a? Just need a bit of clarification on how to check it is
installed.
ls -l /versions/boot/current/boot since thats the target of your 'cp'
command.
uname -a can be executed from
Greg and Michael discussed how we want to close tickets. Our conclusions
and questions:
* All resolved tickets should state that documentation was provided or
that no documentation was needed.
- How should we represent this boolean choice?
* Tickets in the 'next_action == finalize'
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2171
Changes in build 2171 from build: 2169
Size delta: 0.13M
-sugar-journal 94-1.fc9
+sugar-journal 94-2.200807015git814c37616b.fc9
-cerebro 2.9.2-1.olpc3
+cerebro 2.9.4-1.olpc3
-kernel 2.6.25-20080715.2.olpc.ef92c83e1c0d23a
+kernel
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What _should_ be happening in this thread is the collection of use
cases.
For a small selection of the issues involved, please refer to
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mstone/Commentaries/Bundles_1
thank you guys (and girls? probably just guys...) for the informative
ChangeLogs!!!
bobby
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2171
Changes in build 2171 from build: 2169
Size delta: 0.13M
Would it be possible to push debuginfo rpms to the olpc_development
repository? Currently we only appear to carry the following debuginfo
rpms:
bash-3.2# yum search debuginfo
=== Matched: debuginfo ==
glibc-debuginfo-common.i386 : Debug information for
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 18:13 -0400, Erik Garrison wrote:
Would it be possible to push debuginfo rpms to the olpc_development
repository? Currently we only appear to carry the following debuginfo
rpms:
bash-3.2# yum search debuginfo
=== Matched: debuginfo
Hi friends,
It would be nice if we had network manager 0.7 in joyride.
* It has a nicer API
* Nobody is developing 0.6 anymore
* 0.7 has new functionality and may have support for more networks
This would likely require working with the...
* Sugar presence service
*
Is there support of VPNs in the network manager?
(I'm not sure if there is more than one type, but I'm wondering if such
support exists at all)
-FFM
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View this message in context:
http://n2.nabble.com/VPN-with-NetworkManager-tp532303p532303.html
Sent from the OLPC Software development
I fail to see what makes the XO case different from the rest of the
software world - from the pages you link
I agree that the pages I cited presuppose that you understand how our
requirements differ from those of the rest of the world.
Some specific examples:
- Our users often can't make
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What _should_ be happening in this thread is the collection of use
cases.
For a small selection of the issues involved, please refer to
Hey Michael,
So, according to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7511#comment:3, Joe got
a build from you to test (which he refers to as 'build 708'). In this
build he was able to run the Video-Chat activity, which seems to me to
be in early beta stage, and reports his findings (a crash) as a
network
On Wednesday 16 July 2008, ffm wrote:
Is there support of VPNs in the network manager?
(I'm not sure if there is more than one type, but I'm wondering if such
support exists at all)
NetworkManager supports pptp, openvpn, and vpnc(cisco) but we dont support
any of then on the XO.
--
Dennis
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For these reasons, in my humble opinion, choosing our software packaging
format and guidelines (of which version numbering is but a single
aspect) is NOT A TRIVIAL EXERCISE and is not as simple as picking an
off-the-shelf
For these reasons, in my humble opinion, choosing our software packaging
format and guidelines (of which version numbering is but a single
aspect) is NOT A TRIVIAL EXERCISE and is not as simple as picking an
off-the-shelf format. (I wish that the reality were otherwise).
Absolutely agreed.
Dennis Gilmore wrote:
On Wednesday 16 July 2008, ffm wrote:
Is there support of VPNs in the network manager?
(I'm not sure if there is more than one type, but I'm wondering if such
support exists at all)
NetworkManager supports pptp, openvpn, and vpnc(cisco) but we dont
support
any
David,
We (the techteam) have some questions:
- Are there any XOs for which mouse performance is worse since the
kernel upgrade?
- What are the average environmental conditions (humidity level, dust,
temperature) when you are testing the new driver?
Please answer at your leisure.
Erik
Hi Ricardo,
BTW, I don't know for sure what element in
particular is responsible for results I have
observed: networking, fedora, sugar, activity...
Regards,
Joe
At 07:10 PM 7/16/2008, Ricardo Carrano wrote:
Hey Michael,
So, according to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7511#comment:3,
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:10:23PM -0400, Ricardo Carrano wrote:
I am trying to further investigate this, but I am confused on what
exactly was used on the test. Would you recall what exactly is the
build that Joe is testing?
http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/custom/g1g1/en-708-1/
seems to me to
Hi Emliano,
Thanks a lot for your input and questions.
The next release is called 8.2.0 and the features in it are being slowly
documented at:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Notes/8.2.0
That page is subject to change and may contain errors. However, it has
some good links and pictures of
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:15:07AM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For these reasons, in my humble opinion, choosing our software packaging
format and guidelines (of which version numbering is but a single
aspect) is NOT A
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2172
Changes in build 2172 from build: 2171
Size delta: -4.85M
+ntp-ntpdate 4.2.4p4-1.olpc3
-gnome-vfs2 2.22.0-1.fc9
+gnome-vfs2 2.22.0-1.olpc3
-rsync 3.0.2-0.fc9
+rsync 3.0.3-0.fc9
-totem-pl-parser 2.23.2-1.olpc3
+totem-pl-parser
Hey everyone!
For those of you who don't know me, my name is Jonah Saltzman, and I'm in
8th grade at the Fayerweather Street School. Mel got me working on this cool
thing called the review squad, and I made a site for it. It is a
community-based initiative that harnesses the debugging power of all
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:10:23PM -0400, Ricardo Carrano wrote:
I am trying to further investigate this, but I am confused on what
exactly was used on the test. Would you recall what exactly is the
build that Joe is
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 06:52:28PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
Do you require more justification?
Yes, qualified: not now, being the main qualification. Tell everyone
to sod off and wait until update.2's out :). Wait til then unless you
cannot, and in that case just declare something by fiat
Build Announcer v2 wrote:
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2172
Changes in build 2172 from build: 2171
Size delta: -4.85M
Can anyone see why my public_rpms for gnome-python2 and
gnome-python2-gnomevfs did not get included?
Other packages from my public_rpms fell
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 06:54:59PM -0400, Jonah Saltzman wrote:
Hey everyone!
For those of you who don't know me, my name is Jonah Saltzman, and I'm in
8th grade at the Fayerweather Street School. Mel got me working on this cool
thing called the review squad, and I made a site for it. It is a
Hi Michael, list,
the ds-backup packaging is based on your scripts (
http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/mstone/rpm-packaging ) and I am not
100% sure how it is meant to work but attempting to build a snapshot
or a release makes it snap back at me with
mock.py: error: no such option: --define
On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:28 AM, Jim Gettys wrote:
We've gone from build numbers, to ship.x, to update.x
Nonsense. The ship.x and update.x were part of the same scheme, and
that was a _tagging_ scheme, not a naming scheme. It served merely to
correlate a certain piece of production and
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
appropriating apricots
Alliterating Apricots
m
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect
- ask interesting questions
- don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first
-
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 1:16 AM, Morgan Collett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With olpc-update, it's not critical to update from version x to
version x+1 - we can skip versions as we don't depend on a particular
package state. (e.g. You can upgrade from 650 to joyride without
having to upgrade to
There has been talk about expanding Pippy to support a variety of
programming languages, perhaps as plugins; to add syntax highlighting; and
general interest in seeing Develop proceed. Syntax highlighting in Write
has been brought up as well. C and Javascript environments have been
specifically
Hi Samuel,
Marc Maurer has done 95% of the work required to do
multi-programming language syntax highlighting in libabiword. The
advantage of using libabiword is that you get collaboration for free. It
is easy enough to embed this in your own canvas and hook up the controls
you need or
Hi Martin,
The original problem seems to have disappeared. git fetch was failing
for some reason.
I do however, have other questions =).
1) git only recently started complaining about trailing whitespace. Is
there a config option to make it trim it automatically?
2) git pull seems to work
Tarun,
Why does git-pull work on your /home/tarun directory but not the main
directory. Does git-pull written in PHP itself?
PHP is not part of the standard XS-163 build. I did a standard yum
install php and also got php-gd and php-xml. This is at 5.2.4 level.
I can download the latest
Tarun,
I thought I had php-xml already, but it doesn't hurt to re-install I
guess. Restarting Apache is trivially safe and easy as follows:
[XS-tony ~]$ su -
[XS-root ~]# service httpd restart
Stopping httpd:[ OK ]
Starting httpd:
Hi Tony,
This seems to have done the trick! I am able to connect and post to
Blogger.
Thanks for the great support!
I think only php-xmlrpc was installed before. It is a different package
from php-xml.
Thanks,
Tarun
Tony Pearson wrote:
Tarun,
I thought I had php-xml already, but it
Tarun,
Ok, I restarted httpd and confirmed DOM/XML is enabled.
Yes, if you get bumped off the system, it will appear you are logged in
when perhaps you are not. In my case, I am using wireless at the Le
Meridian hotel in Mumbai, so it happened to me today. When I came back
in, I saw that I
From: Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
This one is the correct version - apologies.
---
fsroot.olpc.img/etc/httpd/conf.d/mime_olpc.conf | 14 ++
1 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
create mode 100644 fsroot.olpc.img/etc/httpd/conf.d/mime_olpc.conf
diff --git
From: Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
as it points to the latest complete backup. It is by
no means the last one...
---
server/ds-restore.php |4 ++--
server/postprocess.py |4 ++--
2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
diff --git a/server/ds-restore.php
From: Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
server/ds-restore.php | 32 +---
1 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
diff --git a/server/ds-restore.php b/server/ds-restore.php
index c42366f..d61f693 100644
--- a/server/ds-restore.php
+++
From: Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The underscores only added confusion - for example the cron.d entry
was broken.
Also removed growdatastore.py from the RPM, and moved it to a
more explicit devutils. It is only really useful for development,
no need for in on the XOs.
---
Makefile.build
It seems very nice, but i don't know how many XO's could be linked to the
bubba server, I mean how many XO could this server administrate ?.
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Excito announced the new Bubba Two (excito.com), which could be a
possible XS
server
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