Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Michael Stone writes: On the other hand, it would be rather trivial for activities which cared to check their dependencies in a adhoc fashion (by running rpm themselves if they wish) and by reporting errors if necessary dependencies are unsatisfied. This is far from trivial. Sure, I could do

Random observations with joyride-2225 and latest activities

2008-07-29 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Hi all, I've been running joyride-2225 with what I believe to be the latest versions (as per the update software functionality of the sugar-control-panel) of some core activities. In the past half hour I have stumbled across some issues that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere else so I thought I'd

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Mikus Grinbergs writes: There are people like me who like TuxPaint better than Oficina. However, to run TuxPaint, users of current Joyride need to re-install SDL_mixer and libmikmod. I hope you've filed a bug to request that those libraries be put back. I could use libpaper as well; the

Re: Random observations with joyride-2225 and latest activities

2008-07-29 Thread Morgan Collett
2008/7/29 Christoph Derndorfer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I've been running joyride-2225 with what I believe to be the latest versions (as per the update software functionality of the sugar-control-panel) of some core activities. In the past half hour I have stumbled across some issues that

Re: New joyride build 2223

2008-07-29 Thread Morgan Collett
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 23:37, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2223 Changes in build 2223 from build: Size delta: 0.00M -olpcupdate 2.11-1 +olpcupdate 2.12-1 --- Changes for olpcupdate 2.12-1 from 2.11-1 --- +

CIS solar charging-correct list?

2008-07-29 Thread Stan. SWAN
Greetings- in spite of numerous [EMAIL PROTECTED] categories I can't find any concerned with solar charging! Can someone please direct me, as = devel@lists.laptop.org seems essentially software. The need arises after being asked to post my recent findings on charging a OLPC with a new release

Re: CIS solar charging-correct list?

2008-07-29 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Stan. SWAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings- in spite of numerous [EMAIL PROTECTED] categories I can't find any concerned with solar charging! Can someone please direct me, as = devel@lists.laptop.org seems essentially software. Post it right here. Hardware

Re: [sugar] Programming environments on the XO

2008-07-29 Thread Martin Sevior
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 14:50 +1000, Martin Sevior wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 23:32 -0400, Brian Jordan wrote: The open source project Gobby also uses this sort of who-wrote-what text highlighting, SJ and I have recently (right before he left for Wikimania) been looking into getting similar

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread pgf
michael wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:26:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the obvious answers are that we need to commit to some level of continuing support for activities, What notion of support would you suggest? not breaking supplied interfaces without providing feedback to

RE: [sugar] specifying what services Activities may use

2008-07-29 Thread Jerry Williams
-Original Message- From: Benjamin M. Schwartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:40 PM To: Jerry Williams Cc: 'Mikus Grinbergs'; devel@lists.laptop.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [sugar] specifying what services Activities may use -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: CIS solar charging-correct list?

2008-07-29 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 09:38:35PM +1200, Stan. SWAN wrote: The need arises after being asked to post my recent findings on charging a OLPC with a new release 10W CIS PV. Tests were made in the New Zealand winter (which is mostly very sunny with extremely clear air) , although the CIS PV

Re: CIS solar charging-correct list?

2008-07-29 Thread Ian Daniher
There's also a relatively low-traffic [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, created to discuss peripherals of all kinds, including those related to power. I personally would recommend that you subscribe and cc it on this discussion. Best, -- Ian Daniher ___ Devel

sugar start-up profiling

2008-07-29 Thread riccardo
Problem: sugar starts up slowly on the xo Tests were ran on an xo after a clean joyride-2181 install plus sucrose's activities. A graph of the ending part of the boot process can be found at: http://dev.laptop.org/~rlucchese/boot/boot.stats.svg (http://dev.laptop.org/~rlucchese/boot/boot.stats)

Re: inconsistent identification regarding full-screen sessions

2008-07-29 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI - I am not writing a ticket at this time (until I can reproduce consistent misbehavior). G1G1. Joyride manually updated to 2216. Fair enough. It sounds like we need to tease it apart a bit first; there might be 3

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Erik Garrison
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 08:04:10AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:26:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the obvious answers are that we need to commit to some level of continuing support for activities, What notion of support would you

Re: New joyride build 2222

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 19:42 -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: Anyone whose activities use Numerical arrays in Python should check that they still work in +. If anything is broken, I'll be happy to help fix it. The only Activity I am sure needs to be checked is Measure. I can confirm

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 20:56 -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: There are people like me who like TuxPaint better than Oficina. However, to run TuxPaint, users of current Joyride need to re-install SDL_mixer and libmikmod. What are the errors that you encounter? Do you know libmikmod is needed?

Re: [sugar] Random observations with joyride-2225 and latest activities

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 09:32 +0200, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: a) Record: using v56 the activity starts up fine, the display shows whatever the camera is capturing, I can go into fullscreen-mode, switch to different tabs, etc. However once I press the capture-button the whole thing basically

Re: CIS solar charging-correct list?

2008-07-29 Thread Richard A. Smith
Stan. SWAN wrote: Greetings- in spite of numerous [EMAIL PROTECTED] categories I can't find any concerned with solar charging! Can someone please direct me, as = devel@lists.laptop.org seems essentially software. Your at the right spot. We don't have a list broken down to that level. air)

Re: Spare Screens

2008-07-29 Thread Richard A. Smith
Chris Barrett wrote: me in the direction of acquiring a new screen for one of my G1G1 XOs. The old one's ribbon cable has stripped and now is unserviceable, naturally this is a predicament as I can't easily fix the ribbon cable How did you strip the cable? -- Richard Smith [EMAIL

Re: New joyride build 2222

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 14:51 -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: See the discussion about PAM last week on this list. We decided not to fork but instead just to replace big dictionaries with small/empty ones. The size increase suggests that maybe my pilgrim hack to zap the big dictionaries did not work.

Re: specifying what services Activities may use

2008-07-29 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
A DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE !!! I've been randomly launching Activities on 2226. __Far too many__ of them fail -- because csound was changed, numeric was changed, mixer was changed, etc., etc., etc. Given that there *are* Activities out in the hands of users (both with G1G1 and with

Re: [sugar] specifying what services Activities may use

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:10 -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: A DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE !!! I've been randomly launching Activities on 2226. __Far too many__ of them fail -- because csound was changed, numeric was changed, mixer was changed, etc., etc., etc. Please ensure that you have

Re: CIS solar charging-correct list?

2008-07-29 Thread Stan. SWAN
Richard et.al: Thanks for feedback on my NZ midwinter solar charging trials. I'm pretty experienced with the technicalities of solar PV (although this is the first CIS/CIGS panel I'd worked with), was certainly aware of that 10V cutout ( similar cutout at ~23V). That heavy overcast image was

New joyride build 2228

2008-07-29 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2228 Changes in build 2228 from build: 2225 Size delta: 0.00M -hulahop 0.4.2-1.olpc3 +hulahop 0.4.3-1.olpc3 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See

Re: [sugar] specifying what services Activities may use

2008-07-29 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Please ensure that you have filed tickets for each and every one of them What good will that do? At the beginning of this year, I wrote a ticket saying an Activity would not start. Without notifying me, someone re-assigned *me* as the owner of that ticket -- presumably making it my

Re: [sugar] specifying what services Activities may use

2008-07-29 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Mikus, On 29 Jul 2008, at 22:09, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: Please ensure that you have filed tickets for each and every one of them What good will that do? At the beginning of this year, I wrote a ticket saying an Activity would not start. Without notifying me, someone re-assigned *me*

Evince (was Re: New joyride build 2222)

2008-07-29 Thread S Page
Mikus Grinbergs wrote: Noticed that sugar-evince 2.20.1.1-3.olpc3 brought in poppler 0.6.2-5.olpc3, which is 3 MB. I think 8.1.0 and 8.1.1 have the same dependency (on poppler-0.6.2.4-olpc2). Evince needs Poppler to render PDFs. http://live.gnome.org/Evince/SupportedDocumentFormats

2X zoom X display possible?

2008-07-29 Thread Chris Marshall
I need to install a win32 program for my father to use on his XO. At 1200x900 resolution the text is **way** too small for him to read. However, it is very clear :-) In some previous discussion on the XO bug tracker ssb22 managet to use x11vnc to get a 2X zoom going for the XO and WINE. In

Notes from today's Release Meeting(s)

2008-07-29 Thread Michael Stone
1. We're going to begin nominating this week's 'joyride-weekly' tomorrow at 0900 EDT. If you have risky changes you want to contribute, please provide them _after_ we deliver our nomination. If you want to help more peoples' changes make the deadline, then please help smoke-test joyrides built

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread John Gilmore
can't think of a faster way to make developers give up on our platform as a lost cause. As someone whose year-long OLPC-specific project (SimCity) was broken by Sugar interface changes right before the 650 release, I can report that it was pretty disheartening. Both the sound and the running

Re: New joyride build 2222

2008-07-29 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Anyone whose activities use Numerical arrays in Python should check that they still work in +. If anything is broken, I'll be happy to help fix it. The only Activity I am sure needs to be checked is Measure. I can confirm that Measure does NOT work. Which version of Measure? 17

Re: Notes from today's Release Meeting(s)

2008-07-29 Thread Ton van Overbeek
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5. Separately, I wish we were receiving even more volunteer testing. Can you help out? Fame, glory, and the undying gratitude of hundreds of thousands of children await you! I (just an interested G1G1 owner for my

State of 8.2.0, July 29, 2008

2008-07-29 Thread Michael Stone
Note: I took a quick pass over the current blocks:8.2.0 tickets. I have not revisited the other tickets since last week. Finally, if you're working on tickets on this list, please ensure that they are fully updated BEFORE tomorrow's status meeting. In particular, feel free to fold comments from

Re: Notes from today's Release Meeting(s)

2008-07-29 Thread Holt
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing I believe you really need some dedicated person as liaison between sugarlabs/1cc and outside testing and development volunteers. We're working on it! Are you interested in joining OLPC's Support Gang where a collegial group discusses just such

Re: Notes from today's Release Meeting(s)

2008-07-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 09:32:42PM -0400, Ton van Overbeek wrote: I (just an interested G1G1 owner for my grandson with a Solaris/Unix/Linux background) would love to help testing, but you are not making it very easy. What would make it easier for you? I gather that having the nominated

Re: Evince (was Re: New joyride build 2222)

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 16:46 -0700, S Page wrote: I think 8.1.0 and 8.1.1 have the same dependency (on poppler-0.6.2.4-olpc2). Evince needs Poppler to render PDFs. http://live.gnome.org/Evince/SupportedDocumentFormats Yes, bringing in poppler was intentional. The lack of poppler was what was

Re: specifying what services Activities may use

2008-07-29 Thread Bobby Powers
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE !!! I've been randomly launching Activities on 2226. __Far too many__ of them fail -- because csound was changed, numeric was changed, mixer was changed, etc., etc., etc. Given that

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Daniel Drake writes: I'll look into why SDL_mixer went away, and what it is used for... It's for audio. Reasons for use include: * Nicely compatible with other SDL stuff * Cross-platform (BeOS, MacOS X, Win95, Vista...) * Easy support for stereo positioning * Handles *.ogg files * Good enough

Re: New joyride build 2222

2008-07-29 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone whose activities use Numerical arrays in Python should check that they still work in +. If anything is broken, I'll be happy to help fix it. The only Activity I am sure needs to be checked is Measure. I

Re: CIS solar charging-correct list?

2008-07-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:38 AM, Stan. SWAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings- in spite of numerous [EMAIL PROTECTED] categories I can't find any concerned with solar charging! Can someone please direct me, as = devel@lists.laptop.org seems essentially software. [EMAIL PROTECTED], copied

Re: Notes from today's Release Meeting(s)

2008-07-29 Thread S Page
Michael Stone wrote: 5. Separately, I wish we were receiving even more volunteer testing. Can you help out? Fame, glory, and the undying gratitude of hundreds of thousands of children await you! Background: I'm just a G1G1. I don't have a Developer key, but on my own initiative I installed

Re: CIS solar charging-correct list?

2008-07-29 Thread Stan. SWAN
I'm still on the solar OLPC quest, after meandering assorted automotive goodies displays here in Wellington (NZ),found Kmart selling some outstanding value 12V 5Ah Rechargeable Power Packs. This ~US$35 offering, pictured at = www.manuka.orconhosting.net.nz/powerpak.jpg ,even has an inbuilt

[Server-devel] debuginfo repositories for testing not valid

2008-07-29 Thread Bryan Berry
fyi, There are two repos in the testing.repo that are not valid [fedora-debuginfo-testing] [updates-debuginfo-testing] -- Bryan W. Berry Systems Engineer OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ Server-devel mailing list

Re: [Server-devel] reinstall to 164 or possible to upgrade 163? (Bryan Berry)

2008-07-29 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Bryan, How did we miss the timing on this? Did you know that 164 was about to go out for testing? Let us know how we can communicate better to stay in synch with you. Martin, Can you add the upgrade instructions from this exchange to the 164 release notes? Thanks, Greg S