I attended and Embedded Linux Conference [1] last week at which I
saw a great talk on Managing NAND Over A Product Lifecycle [2].
The speaker presented the case of determining whether a choosen
NAND HW and SW combination will survive the estimated lifecycle
of a product. As an example, he used
Deniz Kural wrote:
This whole why would you need a USB in mongolia? conversation shows how
out of touch some people on this list are with the people the project is
trying to reach.
People live miles and miles away from one another (in Mongolia), and it is
entirely normal to travel to your
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:40 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(I don't think this says negative things about OLPC at all; children
don't resist learning in this way.)
Yet those Largo workers did somehow avoid
2008/10/10 Deniz Kural [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This whole why would you need a USB in mongolia? conversation shows how
out of touch some people on this list are with the people the project is
trying to reach.
Deniz,
this list if composed by people from all around the world, some of
which have had
Elana Langer wrote from Mongolia:
basically when teachers and students try to find their work (write,
record, etoys) in the journal it is hard for them to locate it -
especially if it is more than a few days old. This is why everyone is
desperate to save their projects on USB keys.
This
2008/10/10 Emiliano Pastorino [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi, everyone.
We would like to create a collection of books in pdf format (collection as
in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Collections) for kids in Uruguay, but we've
seen that each time you open a book, a duplicate is created in datastore,
despite
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:18 PM, elana langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
basically when teachers and students try to find their work (write,
record, etoys) in the journal it is hard for them to locate it -
especially if it is more than a few days old.
What I would love to read from you is an
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:14 PM, elana langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Tomeu-
By file I mean the product of their work - in write a document, in
record a picture, in etoys a project etc. They want to save what they
do in a traditional way.
How would you change Sugar so that these users
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Deepak Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Related to this topicm I am also wondering what is the expected
usable life of the XO?
5 years is what I heard many times. Can't now find a formal source of
it, but it's tatooed in my forehead by raw repetition.
cheers,
Deepak -
Thanks very much for the report and the notes; this is great stuff.
Of course, my first question is to wonder how long that GPS has
actually been in use by customers g. Any other real-world NAND data
would certainly be worth sharing with the team.
- Ed
On Oct 10, 2008,
Tomeu et al. -
Thanks - these are very good questions and are definitely on the right
path (that path being, what exactly do we need to do about it?). It
is not obvious to me from this thread whether the user goal is XO-to-
XO file transfer or XO-to-other-computer file transfer. Do we know
Hi,
I have created an initial UBIFS 8.2 image that can be used for testing
and playing with.
See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/UBIFS_initial_experiments
for information on how this was created and some of my intial notes.
If you just want to download and run:
* Make sure your XO has security
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:53 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Edward Cherlin writes:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Carlos Nazareno object404 at gmail.com
wrote:
Could you please elaborate on the difficulties that people have
when using the journal?
I've experienced the same
Posted on moodle.org http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=107920
Hi all! I have been away for a while working on other olpc stuff, but
now my attention is returning to Moodle, and offline moodle is
definitely in my roadmap.
In the AU and NZ moot I had good chances to talk with Dan and
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Garrett Goebel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Elana Langer wrote from Mongolia:
basically when teachers and students try to find their work (write,
record, etoys) in the journal it is hard for them to locate it -
especially if it is more than a few days old. This is
On Oct 10, 2008, at 2:17 AM, Deepak Saxena wrote:
I attended and Embedded Linux Conference [1] last week at which I
saw a great talk on Managing NAND Over A Product Lifecycle [2].
The speaker presented the case of determining whether a choosen
NAND HW and SW combination will survive the
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:22 PM, elana langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
in addition to boot and activity load time the time it takes to switch
between applications is also a little frustrating - especially for
kids who have worked on faster computers.
This should have been improved in the 8.2
Hi, everyone.
We would like to create a collection of books in pdf format (collection as
in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Collections) for kids in Uruguay, but we've
seen that each time you open a book, a duplicate is created in datastore,
despite the file being stored locally. That happens in build
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Pia Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
quote who=John Watlington
We currently do not recommend that an AA be used in schools.
Scalability with AAs is a problem, due to problems with the mesh
protocols. Hence my comment about likely needing an
Valerie Henson blogged about SSD's a while back
(http://valhenson.livejournal.com/25228.html). Since then I've made
sure I back up anything I have on flash.
Philippe
--
The trouble with common sense is that it is so uncommon.
Anonymous
On Friday 10 October 2008 01:17:43 Deepak Saxena
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul -
Thanks very much for this help. I've been wanting to be a real user of my
XO more and this all helps me get pointed in the right direction. I'm also
hoping the two hours I spend each day working on my XO on the
This could be made much easier if Sugar apps prompted the user for
tags when shutting down an application.
Yes, I think we need to assume this model. I don't think this is
going to break the basic paradigm of Sugar, since this prompt need
only happen for *new* activities. Anything which
We can do a little better than that, actually, by making it all one
prompt. It can have a name field, already filled out with the best
darn attempt at a name we can manage, a tag field (and perhaps even a
list of popular tags as well, to apply to it with a click or a
drag/drop), and buttons
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Deepak Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I have created an initial UBIFS 8.2 image that can be used for testing
and playing with.
Tried it here on a B3.
* UBI is taking an extremely long time (~50s) to attach to the MTD
device on the XO I am
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:05 PM, NoiseEHC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We can do a little better than that, actually, by making it all one
prompt. It can have a name field, already filled out with the best
darn attempt at a name we can manage, a tag field (and perhaps even a
list of popular tags
Hi Carol,
Re your comment:
In response to Scott's mail, if you look at the roadmaps linked to
there is nothing approaching a feature oriented roadmap there, though a
lot of good input is gathered in the mails captured at the end of his
w.l.o/9.1 link, and of course there is no clue in this
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It currently looks like the week of November 17 - 21 is our target for our
planning meeting, so as to avoid travel during the (following) US
Thanksgiving holiday week. I concur with Scott's suggestion of having a
sugarlabs
Hi all,
quote who=Sameer Verma
I'm doing a reasonable AA trial and I'll post how it goes to the list soon.
It seems to be working quite well though in initial tests.
How many XOs?
At the moment the most to one AA is 45, and it was weird because with an
earlier version of the XO software
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:12 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It currently looks like the week of November 17 - 21 is our target for our
planning meeting, so as to avoid travel during the (following) US
Notes and action items from this week's test meeting are up! (Sending
this to devel, sugar, and techteam as an fyi - future emails of this
sort will only go to http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/testing, so join
in if you want to hear the updates.)
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/TestMtg%2C_2008-10-10
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just to clarify: like our mini-conferences in the past, the plan is
to have at least three days full of talks and hacking, so that we all
Are you proposing something like:
17 - 21 Talks and hacking
24 - 25
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:33 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just to clarify: like our mini-conferences in the past, the plan is
to have at least three days full of talks and hacking, so that we all
I'm not sure who the planning committee is, but this is the sort of
schedule I was thinking about, too.
- Ed
On Oct 10, 2008, at 3:33 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just to clarify: like our
By tagging, do we mean tagging like in blogs where you have multiple
terms that can be used as filters, or tagging as in more like giving
the file a name?
-Naz
--
Carlos Nazareno
http://www.object404.com
interactive media specialist
zen graffiti studios
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Both!
The most critical issue is to encourage naming of entries, since a
name is the most natural way to find something again later (and all of
the words in the name become, effectively, tags with which one can
find the item later). However, we want to provide a much richer
system with
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8106 makes an interesting, relatively
easy-to-follow (even for nontechnical folks) case study on how testing
works right now, since improving QA processes for the next release cycle
has been a topic of discussion lately.
Note that the snags we hit were minor and
Still trying to reproduce the first weirdness I saw, but I've already
run into pretty much the same problem with my standard test.
I installed UbiFS as indicated.
I installed 16 files of size 32 MB in the root partition.
df indicated around 50 MB free.
I started a loop of reading two files and
On Oct 10 2008, at 16:26, John Watlington was caught saying:
Still trying to reproduce the first weirdness I saw, but I've already
run into pretty much the same problem with my standard test.
I installed UbiFS as indicated.
I installed 16 files of size 32 MB in the root partition.
df
I see how my email wasn't so nice. Apologies for increasing the animosity
level. I was merely trying show how USB transfer from:
1) Xo to Xo
2) Other platform to Xo
could be useful.
Marco, I'm glad to have provoked a laugh, I was indeed joking. I don't even
know you.
I agree with Martin -- I
On Oct 10, 2008, at 4:40 PM, Deepak Saxena wrote:
On Oct 10 2008, at 16:26, John Watlington was caught saying:
Still trying to reproduce the first weirdness I saw, but I've already
run into pretty much the same problem with my standard test.
I installed UbiFS as indicated.
I installed 16
Deniz wrote:
... I also think, since this is a significant investment for many people,
referring to my original example of a teacher typing up a reading (from a
book let's say, or a handout) on a regular computer s/he already has back
home, and being able to transfer files back and forth on
mikus wrote:
Deniz wrote:
... I also think, since this is a significant investment for many people,
referring to my original example of a teacher typing up a reading (from a
book let's say, or a handout) on a regular computer s/he already has back
home, and being able to transfer
Anne Gentry suggested we could get help from XO developers with suggestions
for installing an earth sciences program onto our XO.
This program was developed by the Environmental Systems Research Institute
(ESRI) for earth scientists. There are Geologists and Engineers who are
interested
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Please someone... emulate this within Sugar!
http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs13/f/2007/077/2/e/Animator_vs__Animation_by_alanbecker.swf
That'd be the best ad campaign for the next G1G1!
I agree and similar animations exist:
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 3:49 AM, Carlos Nazareno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By tagging, do we mean tagging like in blogs where you have multiple
terms that can be used as filters, or tagging as in more like giving
the file a name?
The only thing I think that may work quite well with tagging in a
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Jerome Gotangco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only thing I think that may work quite well with tagging in a
journal perspective is that it (the tagging action) is personal in
nature rather than being done in a folksonomy (social, collaborative)
manner.
Oppss,
Brian Jordan wrote:
I imagine students would encounter this bug rather quickly as well,
zooming in on their home continent PDF Google maps style.
Can we get some attention on that one? Especially if it can be fixed in
the activity, I would like to have a new version in place when we try to
mikus wrote:
Talking about copy-from-journal and copy-to-journal:
can you provide a pointer to these scripts?
Try 'which'. On my XO they're in /usr/bin.
doh! i guess i don't use my XO as much as i thought! when you
said written by users i assumed you meant you had obtained them
from
The way that I undertand it, OLPC's gstreamer is fairly custom, so the
standard build of -ugly would have to be rebuilt for the XO.
I suggest the Livna repo, mplayer and its assorted faad etc plugins
instead. Mplayer, mpd and wymypy as a sterieo-on-xo controlled over
webbrowser works really
On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 00:31 +0800, Carlos Nazareno wrote:
Hey OLPC devel!
I was wondering if you guys could help me get gstreamer-plugins-ugly
installed.
Can you guys walk me through this? (disclaimer - linux noob. just
started tinkering w/ ubuntu this year)
This is with regards to
On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
mikus wrote:
Talking about copy-from-journal and copy-to-journal:
can you provide a pointer to these scripts?
Try 'which'. On my XO they're in /usr/bin.
doh! i guess i don't use my XO as much as i thought! when you
said written by
You can transfers files between systems, (in the absence of an XS
server), using a light weight web server such as boa
To install boa on the XO:
su -
yum install boa
If you want more details on how to configure boa let me know and I
will post the instructions.
I use boa to pull log files
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 6:17 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't fully understand all the vagaries of access to root, but I do
want to warn you about having any open ports or users with password
authentication only.
Be really careful about dictionary style attacks.
Agreed - xs
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